I have 923’s, and they look way better than the 925’s in my opinion. Naturally being just one year old I won’t be changing my 923’s any time soon, but your results here have just confirmed it isn’t necessary anyway. I am indeed a toe striker like you mentioned at the end, not all the time but enough that the 923’s are a huge help to me when I do. Love your reviews, nice and to the point.
Thanks, Jay! I have JPX 923 irons I bought about 18 months ago. I have liked them, but I was wondering if I should run out and trade them in for 925's now. Your review has convinced me that all I need to do is hit the ball like you and I can continue to use the 923's. 😅
Outstanding video, sir... I am switching from the 919 (pro) to the 925 'standard' Five years makes a big difference when you're talking about the age of 52 to 57. The 30% more offset helps me now and the tech from the 919 to the 925 is distinct. Hope this helps somebody. Cheers!
Hi Fred, thanks for the kind feedback, have just replied to another viewers comment about should he upgrade model to model and explained that manufacturers don't expect the users of the previous model to be upgrading it's more the golfer running 2 or 3 or more models older, and this is exactly the case I was making... You are bang on with a lot changes in 3 models so really glad you are happy with your new purchase and may they serve you well going forward 👍🏻
@fredgaither1484 thank you! I've been waiting to see how much difference there is between the 919 HM's & the 925 HM's. I game the Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metals and have done so since March of 2019. They have been true magic for my game, hence my hesitation to upgrade. I've been thinking of getting fit for the 925 HM's and your comment, along with @AskGolfNut's review are definitely encouraging me in that direction.
I really enjoy your videos. You may be the most thorough reviewer on RUclips. The heel/toe comparisons are great for those of us who don't always find the center of the clubface. I recently picked up a set of 923 HM and love them. Wonderful forgiveness in a great looking package. IMO the 923's are a better-looking club. Keep up the wonderful content!
Really like the new info graphics in channel But I mostly like that I was gifted those 923’s yesterday. 6- pw Having a Son that reps Mizuno and gets new ones regular is handy!
Tested the 7-iron 925 Hot Metal last night at a Golf Galaxy (U.S. chain store) that uses Trackman. I currently use the Callaway Mavrik. I found the 925 to be slightly softer in feel, and the spin rate (about 5,400) to be higher than my Mavarik's. Distance is comparable. My club head speed is around 82/83 with about 168 carry. The 925 has less offset, which I prefer, as I normally hit a draw (in-to-out swing with a slightly open face) and the 925 was a little straighter. I am likely to order a custom set in 2-3 weeks. Thank you for the test.
Thanks! Ive got the 923 HM HL, based on this video, no point switching to the newer model 😂 the 923s are so great, I've lowered my HC by about 16 strokes since putting them in the bag. And they dont look like a game inprovement iron (too much haha) still big, but they look great in the bag. Great review!
Being honest it's GCQuad thd launch monitor that keeps everything honest above board and transparent as if doesn't care what club I use, it just reads shots 👍🏻😊😊
This is exactly the video I've been waiting for. I'll stick with my 923's. BTW Jay....have you ever done a video of your single plane swing and why you use it/where you learned it? My old golf coach used to try to get me to convert. I hated it at the time (20+ years ago)....tried it again last spring and I'm loving it. Would love to see an instructional video from you on your swing.
I did do one similar to what you say about a little while ago but no one really cared to watch it... For fun here is the link for it.. ruclips.net/video/rFEX6W54zVM/видео.html
Great review. I've been fitted for the 925 but can't afford the price tag at the min so am thinking I'll get the 923. I'm off 18, on a good day, so would the 924 be a better option?
Hi Phil, thanks for the comment. In general understanding what a golfer will need from their equipment by using handicap as a guide is probably the biggest myth and useless tool within the custom fitting environment. Any fitter using handicap to decide is a very lazy and clueless road to pursue. So with that said, the main differences between 923 and 925 is the Forgiveness, basically for golfers that have a varied strike on the face and if course handicap is only a measure of score and not someone's ability to strike fairly consistently. I've met many high handicap golfers that actually strike their irons better than I strike mine as a pro. So, if forgiveness is something that you require then the 925 irons are a definite upgrade, if you don't then the cheaper 923 irons work just as well. Although the 923 irons now being discontinued are unable to be custom fitted so that is a potential problem if you require a certain specification shaft etc 👍
Coming very soon, hopefully on Thursday. Makes sure you are subscribed and also have the bell notifications turned on so you don't miss it's release 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video, thanks for doing this one. I currently play 921 hot metal pro's. Thinking about the 925 pro's vs the 245's. for my next set. I swing 82 mph with a 7 iron. I love the forgiveness of the 925's, but I am intrigued by the 245's (looking to improve on the feel). Thoughts on that balance?
I purchased my 923 once the 925 was released. I upgraded from the 825 to the 923. Frankly, there is no difference in the 925 to 923 but there is a HUGE difference between the 825 and the 923, once Mizuno released the 925 I got my new clubs on the low . Great review
Bought some 923s from 4 iron to gap wedge for $580 today at golf galaxy. I was shocked when the guy scanned them because they were priced at $789. So even better for me lol. I have only heard good things about them so i can’t wait to try them out
Another great video! I’m gonna swap my 923 HMs for the 925 HMs. Although I prefer the look of the 923s, I like the slightly higher launch angle and better performance on low, heel and nominal toe hits. That said, mostly because I’m gonna switch to graphite shafts to save my 64 yo elbows. 😉
Good deals are always wonderful to see and hear.... Not a fan of free fitting if you buy due to the clear selling aspect of the promotion. I always would prefer people pay for an unbiased fitting where commissions are removed from the process to allow for a fair and transparent fitting process 👍🏻
I was wondering if we would be seeing the 923s going on sale in the near future. My back surgeon has ruled out golf for me for the rest of this year, so I guess that I'll be putting off my iron shopping until early next year. 😢
Absolutely, play my blades to 7 iron and then transfer to something like this that would effectively replace my longer irons with options that are easier to control. Absolutely makes sense 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I recently had a few hits with the 925 on tour s shaft…… unbelievably soft and a good 10/12 yds longer. My only worry is, you term this as game improvement and I’m thinking I’m not in that bracket; play off 11.5, and currently use Taylor made rsi 1. It’ll also upset the rest of my hybrids which I use for 150 yds upwards. Is the 925 too soft with little feel which I do like?
Great bargains to be had but remember rarely are fully custom fitted options on sale as Mizuno and other manufacturers discontinue the old from custom when the new model is released 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut true! I'm lucky enough to have a launch monitor and bending jig so I do my own tweaking. Would be nice to have a full custom fitting some day but even the good people around me do little more than I do in my garage.
Sad as it is with the time of reply here in the UK but I'm working on the edit now with it hopefully being released tomorrow afternoon..... Make sure you get the notification 🔔 bell on so you don't miss it's release 👍🏻
The other was also toe down also but just not quite as much. The Stability Frame on the 923 HM was built around Toe Forgiveness when the new tech is more neutral biased in the head so physics will always win so it gives up some extreme toe forgiveness for being better from more useable parts 👍🏻
Are the length between HM 923 and HM 925 different? Looking at a spec sheet looks like (5i) on 923 are 38 inch vs 38.25 inch on 925s. Does it make a difference ?
So just a bit of background, Mizuno have changed the way they measure irons. There has always been 2 ways to measure clubs and where most of the manufacturers have migrated over the years to the more now standard way, Mizuno had dragged their heels changing and that's why Mizuno have been seen to have been slightly made shorter than other brands when in fact they were basically the same. So no need to worry about length and either way if it was only 1/4 inch then the difference is so small it wouldn't make any difference 👍
@@AskGolfNutthank you for the insight, appreciate it. I ended up finding a mint set of 923 HM (still had wraps on them) for $710 that had the specs i needed ! Made my decision alot easier 👍🏻
Each model is now sold with it's own wedges GW etc as before they had the JPX wedge which was supposed to try and blend all the sets which was obviously difficult due to slight loft and look differences. Having their own wedges allow for the golfer to have a set which doesn't now differ from the top to the bottom 👍🏻
Generally never is between models.... Manufacturers as a general rule see golfers changing between 2 or 3 models old sets to upgrade so you've got a couple of years grace before you should be thinking about needing to upgrade 👍🏻👍🏻
There was enough of a difference between my eleven year old JPX 800 irons and the new JPX 925 Pro irons to justify an upgrade. The Mizuno love affair continues.
@AskGolfNut I just hit them better for some reason, and the Pro's I have Graphite shafts and was fitted for both sets and still have both sets. Not a lot better but more consistent with the Pro's, could be the shaft.
@rickvann3489 interesting that, you were, fitted for both sets but you have Steel in one and Graphite in another, did you go through big swing changes or injury causing the shift? 👍🏻
@AskGolfNut nope, McGolf said I was fitted wrong and should not had been fitted for the 95 Regular flex steel shaft. So I was going to reshaft them after 6 months and just instead paid extra and hit the pro models better. But to be honest, I don't play enough to notice huge difference with any of the 6 sets I own. I got into a buying frenzy last year and bought some old McGregor irons with to stiff of shaft supposedly and hit them really good just about 5 yards shorter. I believe it's in the swing more so then the club. I have owned a set Mizzuno MP 32 and they were to stiff, reshafted them and when your swing is correct it is a very buttery feel like a pure feel or one where you hit a soft rubber ball.
They've done very well to increase its forgiveness level over that of the 923. Is it enough to justify upgrading if you already have 923's well I'd probably agree, but I guess thats down to the individual golfer to decide 👍
Give a like if you would like to see the 923 Hot Metal High Launch vs the 925 Hot Metal High Launch.
Go on guys the more likes this comment gets then the more chance of me having to do more work 🤣👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Definitely!
really want to see 923 HL vs 925 HL too!🤩
If I get enough in the way of likes and requests for it then I will happily put the time into making it 👍
For sure...I would love to see the HL comparison !!!!!
Let's smash that like button y'all 😂
Yes, 923 HL vs 925 HL. I would also love to see that!
@@AskGolfNut Yes to your doing an old JPX 923 HL vs the new JPX 925 HL.
I have 923’s, and they look way better than the 925’s in my opinion. Naturally being just one year old I won’t be changing my 923’s any time soon, but your results here have just confirmed it isn’t necessary anyway.
I am indeed a toe striker like you mentioned at the end, not all the time but enough that the 923’s are a huge help to me when I do.
Love your reviews, nice and to the point.
Great review, objective and honest, full of technical data to back up what you say, and thus seriously useful to anyone thinking about new clubs.
Thanks John for your kind feedback and support for the content 👍
Thanks, Jay! I have JPX 923 irons I bought about 18 months ago. I have liked them, but I was wondering if I should run out and trade them in for 925's now. Your review has convinced me that all I need to do is hit the ball like you and I can continue to use the 923's. 😅
Yep that's it. Blame me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Outstanding video, sir...
I am switching from the 919 (pro) to the 925 'standard' Five years makes a big difference when you're talking about the age of 52 to 57. The 30% more offset helps me now and the tech from the 919 to the 925 is distinct. Hope this helps somebody. Cheers!
Hi Fred, thanks for the kind feedback, have just replied to another viewers comment about should he upgrade model to model and explained that manufacturers don't expect the users of the previous model to be upgrading it's more the golfer running 2 or 3 or more models older, and this is exactly the case I was making... You are bang on with a lot changes in 3 models so really glad you are happy with your new purchase and may they serve you well going forward 👍🏻
@fredgaither1484 thank you! I've been waiting to see how much difference there is between the 919 HM's & the 925 HM's. I game the Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metals and have done so since March of 2019. They have been true magic for my game, hence my hesitation to upgrade. I've been thinking of getting fit for the 925 HM's and your comment, along with @AskGolfNut's review are definitely encouraging me in that direction.
I went from 919s to 923 and gain 10 more yards. Love them
I really enjoy your videos. You may be the most thorough reviewer on RUclips. The heel/toe comparisons are great for those of us who don't always find the center of the clubface. I recently picked up a set of 923 HM and love them. Wonderful forgiveness in a great looking package. IMO the 923's are a better-looking club. Keep up the wonderful content!
Really like the new info graphics in channel
But I mostly like that I was gifted those 923’s yesterday. 6- pw
Having a Son that reps Mizuno and gets new ones regular is handy!
Absolutely 😊 really glad you enjoy your new bats 😊👍🏻
Tested the 7-iron 925 Hot Metal last night at a Golf Galaxy (U.S. chain store) that uses Trackman. I currently use the Callaway Mavrik. I found the 925 to be slightly softer in feel, and the spin rate (about 5,400) to be higher than my Mavarik's. Distance is comparable. My club head speed is around 82/83 with about 168 carry. The 925 has less offset, which I prefer, as I normally hit a draw (in-to-out swing with a slightly open face) and the 925 was a little straighter. I am likely to order a custom set in 2-3 weeks. Thank you for the test.
Fantastic comparison video. I am eagerly awaiting for a 923 hot metal pro versus 925 hot metal as i currently game the 923 hmp
Editing the video now, I'm hoping to have it ready for Thursday afternoon release 👍
@@AskGolfNut fantastic Jay thank you
Thanks! Ive got the 923 HM HL, based on this video, no point switching to the newer model 😂 the 923s are so great, I've lowered my HC by about 16 strokes since putting them in the bag. And they dont look like a game inprovement iron (too much haha) still big, but they look great in the bag. Great review!
Really glad you are enjoying your golf and have done so well with your handicap 👍👍
Great video. Love the honesty. Keep it up!
Being honest it's GCQuad thd launch monitor that keeps everything honest above board and transparent as if doesn't care what club I use, it just reads shots 👍🏻😊😊
This is exactly the video I've been waiting for. I'll stick with my 923's.
BTW Jay....have you ever done a video of your single plane swing and why you use it/where you learned it? My old golf coach used to try to get me to convert. I hated it at the time (20+ years ago)....tried it again last spring and I'm loving it. Would love to see an instructional video from you on your swing.
I did do one similar to what you say about a little while ago but no one really cared to watch it...
For fun here is the link for it..
ruclips.net/video/rFEX6W54zVM/видео.html
@@AskGolfNut Great! Thank you.
I’m hitting the JPX919 now and love them. Considering the 925s. Maybe wait til the 927s. I’m in no rush. Love the 919s.
Great review. I've been fitted for the 925 but can't afford the price tag at the min so am thinking I'll get the 923. I'm off 18, on a good day, so would the 924 be a better option?
Hi Phil, thanks for the comment. In general understanding what a golfer will need from their equipment by using handicap as a guide is probably the biggest myth and useless tool within the custom fitting environment. Any fitter using handicap to decide is a very lazy and clueless road to pursue. So with that said, the main differences between 923 and 925 is the Forgiveness, basically for golfers that have a varied strike on the face and if course handicap is only a measure of score and not someone's ability to strike fairly consistently. I've met many high handicap golfers that actually strike their irons better than I strike mine as a pro. So, if forgiveness is something that you require then the 925 irons are a definite upgrade, if you don't then the cheaper 923 irons work just as well. Although the 923 irons now being discontinued are unable to be custom fitted so that is a potential problem if you require a certain specification shaft etc 👍
Great video! I would say the 923 looks nicer in my opinion. Will there be a 923 pro vs. 925 pro video?!
Coming very soon, hopefully on Thursday. Makes sure you are subscribed and also have the bell notifications turned on so you don't miss it's release 👍🏻👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut looking forward to it!
Great video, thanks for doing this one. I currently play 921 hot metal pro's. Thinking about the 925 pro's vs the 245's. for my next set. I swing 82 mph with a 7 iron. I love the forgiveness of the 925's, but I am intrigued by the 245's (looking to improve on the feel). Thoughts on that balance?
Hi David, I have a plan to do a Mizuno JPX925 Hot Metal Pro vs Mizuno Pro 245..... Would that comparison help at all? 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNutplease do, I’m also on the fence between the 925 HMP vs 245 Pro! Love your channel, thanks for all your efforts!
@@AskGolfNut That would be very helpful
I purchased my 923 once the 925 was released. I upgraded from the 825 to the 923. Frankly, there is no difference in the 925 to 923 but there is a HUGE difference between the 825 and the 923, once Mizuno released the 925 I got my new clubs on the low . Great review
Looking to do the same. Great price on the 923’s now.
@@billstevenson8142 Tried both of them, the 925s are somehow quieter but not better. I like the 923s and got them in a budget. Highly recommend
Bought some 923s from 4 iron to gap wedge for $580 today at golf galaxy. I was shocked when the guy scanned them because they were priced at $789. So even better for me lol. I have only heard good things about them so i can’t wait to try them out
Another great video! I’m gonna swap my 923 HMs for the 925 HMs. Although I prefer the look of the 923s, I like the slightly higher launch angle and better performance on low, heel and nominal toe hits. That said, mostly because I’m gonna switch to graphite shafts to save my 64 yo elbows. 😉
Age is a killer in this game so hopefully you can find a build spec to mitigate any potential health issues 👍🏻👍🏻
I do like the look of the JPX923 better then the 925
Seems to be a fairly common comment, although as the weeks go on it seems as people are liking the new look more and more....👍
@AskGolfNut looking forwards to the forged version to launch
Looking to be Jan most probably 👍🏻
nevermind the look, I go for perfromance anytime, dispersion & carry.!!!!
I play the 921 hm wondering the difference with the 925 . Thanks for great videos !!
Brilliant Jay, thank you
Love your honest reviews....lot of the dealers are giving deals on the 923 and free fitting if you buy!
Good deals are always wonderful to see and hear.... Not a fan of free fitting if you buy due to the clear selling aspect of the promotion. I always would prefer people pay for an unbiased fitting where commissions are removed from the process to allow for a fair and transparent fitting process 👍🏻
I was wondering if we would be seeing the 923s going on sale in the near future. My back surgeon has ruled out golf for me for the rest of this year, so I guess that I'll be putting off my iron shopping until early next year. 😢
Wouldn’t it make sense that players of your caliper replace their long ironswith the shorter irons to get better performance? And easier to hit.
Absolutely, play my blades to 7 iron and then transfer to something like this that would effectively replace my longer irons with options that are easier to control. Absolutely makes sense 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I recently had a few hits with the 925 on tour s shaft…… unbelievably soft and a good 10/12 yds longer. My only worry is, you term this as game improvement and I’m thinking I’m not in that bracket; play off 11.5, and currently use Taylor made rsi 1. It’ll also upset the rest of my hybrids which I use for 150 yds upwards. Is the 925 too soft with little feel which I do like?
923 is now on sale since the 925 came out. It’s a bargain so I just picked up a set of 923 HM pros.
Great bargains to be had but remember rarely are fully custom fitted options on sale as Mizuno and other manufacturers discontinue the old from custom when the new model is released 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut true! I'm lucky enough to have a launch monitor and bending jig so I do my own tweaking. Would be nice to have a full custom fitting some day but even the good people around me do little more than I do in my garage.
Will there be a similar hot metal pro comparison?
Sad as it is with the time of reply here in the UK but I'm working on the edit now with it hopefully being released tomorrow afternoon..... Make sure you get the notification 🔔 bell on so you don't miss it's release 👍🏻
I would say the reason the 923 worked better with the extreme toe strike is because the dynamic lie was 5 degrees down.
The other was also toe down also but just not quite as much. The Stability Frame on the 923 HM was built around Toe Forgiveness when the new tech is more neutral biased in the head so physics will always win so it gives up some extreme toe forgiveness for being better from more useable parts 👍🏻
I can't wait to get rid of my 923. I played Mizuno for 30 years and once hit twice shy. A very short club as for distance.
Wow, it's the first time I've had anyone comment that they didn't work at all well in the distance department... Did you get them custom fitted? 👍🏻
Are the length between HM 923 and HM 925 different? Looking at a spec sheet looks like (5i) on 923 are 38 inch vs 38.25 inch on 925s. Does it make a difference ?
So just a bit of background, Mizuno have changed the way they measure irons. There has always been 2 ways to measure clubs and where most of the manufacturers have migrated over the years to the more now standard way, Mizuno had dragged their heels changing and that's why Mizuno have been seen to have been slightly made shorter than other brands when in fact they were basically the same.
So no need to worry about length and either way if it was only 1/4 inch then the difference is so small it wouldn't make any difference 👍
@@AskGolfNutthank you for the insight, appreciate it. I ended up finding a mint set of 923 HM (still had wraps on them) for $710 that had the specs i needed ! Made my decision alot easier 👍🏻
I'm hitting the 921's but these look tempting
Just got new set of 923 HM 5-P for just 650 USD. Been waiting to swap my MP225 for 925 HM but canceled because of the looks
What's the gap wedge in the 925s? I do [not] care for the gap that was sold with the 919s
Each model is now sold with it's own wedges GW etc as before they had the JPX wedge which was supposed to try and blend all the sets which was obviously difficult due to slight loft and look differences. Having their own wedges allow for the golfer to have a set which doesn't now differ from the top to the bottom 👍🏻
I will be sticking with my 923's. Not enough gain for money.
Generally never is between models.... Manufacturers as a general rule see golfers changing between 2 or 3 models old sets to upgrade so you've got a couple of years grace before you should be thinking about needing to upgrade 👍🏻👍🏻
There was enough of a difference between my eleven year old JPX 800 irons and the new JPX 925 Pro irons to justify an upgrade. The Mizuno love affair continues.
And hopefully for another 11 years 😊👍👍
I don't see the need to upgrade, I went from 923 Hot metal to the 923 Hot metal Pro
Was it for the slightly smaller nicer looks that you changed to the HMP over the HM? 👍🏻
@AskGolfNut I just hit them better for some reason, and the Pro's I have Graphite shafts and was fitted for both sets and still have both sets. Not a lot better but more consistent with the Pro's, could be the shaft.
@rickvann3489 interesting that, you were, fitted for both sets but you have Steel in one and Graphite in another, did you go through big swing changes or injury causing the shift? 👍🏻
@AskGolfNut nope, McGolf said I was fitted wrong and should not had been fitted for the 95 Regular flex steel shaft. So I was going to reshaft them after 6 months and just instead paid extra and hit the pro models better. But to be honest, I don't play enough to notice huge difference with any of the 6 sets I own. I got into a buying frenzy last year and bought some old McGregor irons with to stiff of shaft supposedly and hit them really good just about 5 yards shorter. I believe it's in the swing more so then the club. I have owned a set Mizzuno MP 32 and they were to stiff, reshafted them and when your swing is correct it is a very buttery feel like a pure feel or one where you hit a soft rubber ball.
@rickvann3489 absolutely agree that the Indian trumps the arrow all day long.... Its always nice though to have the arrow fit the Indian 😊👍🏻
Typically 2 Years is not going to be a huge difference. So if you own the JPX 923 unless your clubs are worn zero reason to change.
They've done very well to increase its forgiveness level over that of the 923. Is it enough to justify upgrading if you already have 923's well I'd probably agree, but I guess thats down to the individual golfer to decide 👍
Ha ha, you like the cleaner look of the 923? Right. Sure. We all know you get drawn by chromy shiny stuff Jay
Someone chrome plate those 925s quick 🤣🤣
925 looks like a shiny SIM2 iron 🙄
Not the first person to make the comparison :-) also Nike Slingshots :-) but I can defo say that they work better than the aforementioned :-)
Walker Barbara Gonzalez Charles Martin George
The new look is ugly.
Performs good though 😊 👍🏻
Your swing speed makes this whole exercise meaningless 😂
A great stuff!!
Glad you enjoyed it Mark 👍🏻