MUST have PERDIGON/How to tie the OLIVE FLASH PERDIGON

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  • @jimmyjamesl6605
    @jimmyjamesl6605 11 месяцев назад +5

    I'm a novice with respect to tying flies and I've watched a ton of videos re: tying perdigons. This is by far the most helpful and I really appreciate you taking time to go into depth regarding some of the nuances like flattening the thread and keeping things neat. This is also one of the few videos that does minimal wraps and skips the bead dam. Thanks to this video, my perdigons are sharp and consistent!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it is helpful, Jimmy! Appreciate the comment. Good luck with your tying and tight lines to you!

  • @richardmeeks5058
    @richardmeeks5058 Год назад +3

    There are a number of great and big name fly tyers on the internet but, I find that your tying instructions and tips are the best. Thanks for your videos. I enjoy your fishing videos on various streams also. Unlike a lot of talking, you actually catch fish and a lot of them, with helpful instructions about how you are doing it.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Super nice of you to say, Richard. I really appreciate it! Glad you find it helpful. Thanks so much for watching the channel. Tight lines to you!

  • @mwong000
    @mwong000 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just like your casting vid and your Micro Leader vid, every concept you teach is backed up by logical thinking, and precise explanation. I get so much out of your vids. Thank you for sharing!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  6 месяцев назад

      Super nice of you to say. Glad they are helpful! Appreciate you watching. Tight lines!

  • @shad3128
    @shad3128 7 месяцев назад +1

    I tied and caught my first fish on one of these the other day and it cracked me up. Had a few buried in the bottom of my box and i was like "ya know, screw it ill toss the perdigon nothings working today" sure enough, beautiful wild bow took it in two casts. Ya never know lol. Now i always keep a few on me. Thanks for this video, had no clue how to make these but this helped alot!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  7 месяцев назад

      Love to hear it, Shad! Now they have to be front and center in your box! Appreciate you commenting and tight lines to you!

  • @holyworrier
    @holyworrier 2 года назад +1

    I like it when each of my flies has its own personality. 🤓
    I do enjoy your videos!

  • @o2binvallarta
    @o2binvallarta 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent video! Your methods make much more sense than others I've seen.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  11 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful, Bill! Appreciate you watching. Tight lines to you!

  • @tightliningmd
    @tightliningmd 2 года назад

    STUPID SIMPLE, but effective! And you leave no stone unturned with the why's and how's for doing it right and most effective. I enjoy that you make them 10 mins, but it is because you explain and not just tie it. People often need to get more concerned with the why, not the how. Same for fishing spots and big fish.....

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      That it is, Mike! Really appreciate it the kind words. Hope you spin some up, I know it will be good to you!

  • @littlesilver2205
    @littlesilver2205 Год назад +1

    This is the proper way to tie a Perdigon, i seen so many flies that have way to much material.

  • @mikemaltby761
    @mikemaltby761 28 дней назад

    Headed to NZ. Will take some of your flies! Great video and technique!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  27 дней назад

      Good luck on the New Zealand trout, Mike! Appreciate you watching and tight lines!

  • @Pocketwaterproductions
    @Pocketwaterproductions 2 года назад +3

    I do a similar pattern with pearl tinsel wrapped over an olive thread under body. Its a go to for me on most of our rivers.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      That’s sounds like a winning combo. Appreciate you watching, Pocket Water!

  • @davidhanni208
    @davidhanni208 2 года назад

    Most underrated channel on fly fishing on RUclips . You should really post more of your tying videos .

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Wow, David, really appreciate it. I will definitely be posting more tying videos. Tight lines to you!

    • @davidhanni208
      @davidhanni208 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum I’m a very avid tier and I’ve commented before . You get it right with your flies and how much thread to be putting on . It really makes a huge difference .

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      It really does, David. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.

  • @louied6065
    @louied6065 2 года назад +2

    Good lookin perdigon. Thin to win 👍.

  • @cutterwatson4284
    @cutterwatson4284 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. I have been fly fishing a little less than a year and just recently started tying my own flies. I tied up a couple of these bad boys and I’ve been fishing with them for a few months. I haven’t been skunked one single time since using this fly. This fly is a killer. Easy to tie, great instruction. Really appreciate it man. Tight lines!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Love to hear it, Cutter! Glad you have been banging them with it. Thanks for the comment….Appreciate you watching and continued success to you! Tight lines!

  • @hotspotnymphing
    @hotspotnymphing 2 года назад +1

    Nice! Great tips on keeping flies slim and consistent! I always like the way the wing case fills out a perdigon.

  • @naturalverities
    @naturalverities Год назад +10

    Over time my Bone Dry resin was getting slushy and the brush was flaring like a '50s prom dress. At the mfg instruction I immersed the bottle to just below the shoulder in a cup of just-boiled water with cap slightly loosened and let it cool to room temp. It not only restored the resin's original viscosity but also returned the brush to like-new.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +2

      Wow! Fantastic info. I always microwaved mine for 10 sec or so, but the brush never came back...still looked like the prom dress! Thanks so much!

    • @HondoTrailside
      @HondoTrailside 7 дней назад +1

      I forget who said this tip, but they cut the brush in half. That length of brush is for nails, or something else with a huge area. When cut in half it slings less glue, and it also clears the edges of the bottle better, and doesn't get all messed up.
      I would suggest that you guys may be taking the wrong dates to the prom. Though it could be me. But it seems like a lot of work to get a messed up dress, that can get done any night of the week.

    • @naturalverities
      @naturalverities 7 дней назад

      @@HondoTrailside bring on the miniskirt revolution! lol!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  6 дней назад

      Haha-great tip, Hondo. Time to get a new date!!

  • @smatthew2454
    @smatthew2454 2 года назад

    I feel like I shaved an insane amount of bulk off my perdigon by tying along with the video. Your insight is much appreciated!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      That’s awesome. They are going to be fish catchers. Glad I could help!

  • @kenmartin1211
    @kenmartin1211 Год назад

    It's a good Perdigon pattern... Perdigon Nymph Patterns are great for getting down in the water column quickly.. Thanks..

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Thanks, Ken. You are right. Fantastic bugs for getting down quick. Appreciate you watching.

  • @SigmaWolfOutdoors
    @SigmaWolfOutdoors 2 года назад

    Started using them for dry dropper rig this weekend ... had a great time ...

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Great to hear, Jvp. Appreciate you letting me know. Tight lines to you!

  • @thebesthunter69
    @thebesthunter69 2 года назад

    Your attention to detail is unbelievable. Nice video!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much, Eric! Glad you liked it!

    • @thebesthunter69
      @thebesthunter69 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum you’re welcome keep the videos coming it’s curing my cabin fever 🥵

  • @alexargyros7186
    @alexargyros7186 4 месяца назад +1

    As always, a carefully thought out and clearly articulated fly tying video. Now, have you had the green side of Hands 233 rub off if not handled gingerly? This happens all too often with me. My solution is to double a piece of Heads, tie in the ends, and then twist the rest into a kind of rope. The result is slightly rougher than just tying on the Hands, but resin smooths it out.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  4 месяца назад

      Thank you, Alex! The green side can definitely lose its color if not handled with kid gloves. Your solution sounds fantastic and will definitely give it a go. Appreciate the tip!

  • @stephanebogen5411
    @stephanebogen5411 Год назад

    Great video. Just received my order from Devin's shop and realized that the HENDS 233 I ordered is the SPECTRA flash not the Krystal flash. I think the color pattern are similar. The SPECTRA is basically knit strands and I was able to untie each strands out. Not easy to see brown side versus green and I think I got both on the first 2 Perdigon I made. The green looks really like yours (amazing) and the brownish has still some sheen of green and resemble a Gasolina so I like it as well. Thanks again for the video - really super educative.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Glad it helps, Stephane. Happy the Spectra is working for you…great to know. Hends makes exceptional materials. Good luck to you and thanks for watching!

  • @johnshand6176
    @johnshand6176 2 года назад +1

    I'm just getting into the Czech nymphing with my new 4 weight Sage ESN rod and reel and managed to land a 4lb brown on my fist lob which was probably a bit of a fluke. I have found it difficult to transition from indicator nymphing but have decided to persevere. I follow a lot of international fly tyers and Perdiigons are my latest craze. I really enjoyed your demonstration and will replicate it with similar materials for my next fishing adventure. Thanks from down-under in NZ.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      That is awesome, John. What a fabulous brown! Keep at it and it will start clicking. I have a video on casting and another on line management. Check them out, I really think they will help. Thanks for watching. Really appreciate it. Cheers and good luck, Mate!

  • @WhiteDogTrailCompany
    @WhiteDogTrailCompany 2 года назад +1

    Nice! Great fly! I'm getting in to Perdigons lately and having fun tying some variations!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, White Dog! They are super effective bugs. Thanks for watching and good luck with them!

    • @littlesilver2205
      @littlesilver2205 Год назад

      Instead of putting a black dot on top, what i did was take a small piece of mirror flash or dark holographic tinsel in the shape of a tear drop, make it small enough so it dont hang over the side, put 1 drop of super glue on top tiny drop just to hold it , then hit it with your uv glue just enough to hold it so you inspect the fly again, fill underneath in, fill the top slot just so it looks like the shape then cover everything sparingly so it looks smooth , i got it perfect after 2nd try , it looks incredible .

  • @davidbole8574
    @davidbole8574 2 года назад

    Nice fly and thanks for sharing. As a new guy to fly fishing and fly tieing I like how you are slow and deliberate with your instruction and explain why you do it the way you do it.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, David! Glad it helps you. Good luck and tight lines!

  • @wayway872
    @wayway872 6 месяцев назад

    Wow this video made me a new subscriber. Amazing explanation and great tips to help with this genre of fly. 👍

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  6 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful! Appreciate you subbing. Tight lines to you!

  • @barbaraemerich1921
    @barbaraemerich1921 2 года назад

    Omg!! I love the way you teach! I’ve learned so much just from watching two of your videos!!

  • @dennisbaker8878
    @dennisbaker8878 2 года назад

    outstanding instructional video that has really improved my perditions. just a note, the hends 233 is difficult to find but an excellent substitution is the hareline Krystal flash, medium, in brown. the hareline brown has a green shine to it and is, as far as I can tell identical to the hends 233. thank you again, hands down, best instructional video on tying the Perdigon. one more note, another fantastic color combo for the Perdigon is a florescent orange thread with a root beer color flash over the thread.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, Dennis! Glad it has helped. It is difficult to get Hends 233. All supply chain issues I'm sure. That's great to know about the Hareline brown. Hareline peacock is a pretty decent sub as well. Your root beer sounds great. Really appreciate the kind words. Tight lines!

  • @marcthomas3207
    @marcthomas3207 2 года назад

    Don’t usually comment on videos, but this fly, using the hareline peacock, killed it for me today. Roughly matched the size of the mayflies coming off, but there was a lot of other food in the water and they just keyed in on this little green Perdigon completely disregarding whatever else I had tied on in a two fly set up.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      That’s awesome to hear, Marc. Happy to hear you killed them. It’s a great bug for sure. Continued success to you!

  • @petestevens5816
    @petestevens5816 8 месяцев назад

    Best vid on the subject from the Master

  • @greygraham5361
    @greygraham5361 2 года назад

    Just tied a few dozen of your vids. Love how clean this fly turns out

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      That’s awesome, Grey! It’s going to catch you some fish!

  • @jeffblair5352
    @jeffblair5352 2 года назад

    Great tip on how to be consistent with the pattern!

  • @scottkavanagh486
    @scottkavanagh486 2 года назад

    Thanks. I really like this pattern and looking forward to trying it out on my Central PA waters!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, Scott. I use it in Central, PA all the time and it does well. I’m sure you will find success with it. Tight lines!

  • @berks8260
    @berks8260 2 года назад

    Cory, Thanks,
    I’m going to tie this up, I happen to have the same perdi jig…Berks (Phil)

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Hey Phil! These are some good looking hooks. I think you are going to like this bug. Good luck with it!

  • @gregh9675
    @gregh9675 2 года назад +1

    nice tie cory. i tie a similar one but use the hends 233 perdigon tinsel with a utc 70 light olive thread body underneath, dark pardo cdl tail (3 fibers), and a veevus fire orange hotspot. will try the krystal flash version, like the ribbing / segmentation effect it gives. i usually just solarez mine once at the very end after applying the wingcase. my version has caught so many trout here in VA it’s seriously the only nymph i use for my point fly in pocketwater freestones

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Greg. The Hends 233 tinsel is what is used for a Gasolina, which is a great bug. The 233 Krystal flash will give you a nice deep, dark color. It will be a good one to add to your arsenal. And I have crushed them on the Jackson with this bug btw!

  • @johnstagg1505
    @johnstagg1505 2 года назад

    Best instructional video I've seen. Really helped improve my tying skills. I compared one of my earlier perdigons against one I tied after watching this video. Not even close. Slightly embarrassing. Now I have to go back and retie a bunch of raggedy, bulky flies. Great video.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, John! Glad it helped. And we have all started the same way….Now you can give the old ones away to your buddies! Tight lines to you!

  • @seads4142
    @seads4142 2 года назад

    Thanks for another nice video
    I was looking forward to find out what was crucial ingredient of that perdigon since seeing your success on the water with it .Thsnk you for sharing it !

  • @newflyrod1
    @newflyrod1 2 года назад

    Great videos, a wealth of useful information and tips. Could you please review and possibly make a video on the rod you use, line and leaders. Thank you for sharing your knowledge..

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it! Thanks so much for the comment. That video will definitely be coming in the future.

  • @PR-lu7tu
    @PR-lu7tu 2 года назад

    Thanks! Great teaching video. Picked up some good practices.

  • @scottnock5241
    @scottnock5241 2 года назад

    Very nice Cory!! I like that flash.. I did get those make up Brushes too they are nice to work with..

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it, Scott! Those brushes are a great addition to the table!

    • @scottnock5241
      @scottnock5241 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum how long have you been using those hooks? I see a lot of guys tying on those now. How do they hold fish? Nice gap anyway.. I know you liked the hanoks.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Just started using them this past fall. Hanak is still my favorite, but I like these for oversizing beads on smaller hooks. They do a great job for that. I fish the smaller sizes only, 16-20. So far, they have held fish for me. I will still take a lot for me to drop Hanak from the number one spot.

    • @scottnock5241
      @scottnock5241 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum that’s the first I saw you use them that’s why I asked and Iv seen them gain popularity, going to have to get some of those too.. I have a myriad of different freaking hooks and beads I need to settle in on a brand or two…. Thanks for the input.

  • @schmoonkie
    @schmoonkie 2 года назад

    That Hends 233 Krystal Flash is very difficult to find in the US. Some merchants list it, but then don't have it in stock. I ordered some from a source in Germany. In the meantime, I watched a RUclips video of someone tying the Gasolina Perdigon using Hends Perdigones Pearl Body ( #34 - Olive ) tinsel and Olive thread underneath. I used Veevus C08 thread. The effect was similar to your fly in color--though, no segmentation visible. I tied 5 flies using size 22 Dohiku jig hooks mated with 2mm slotted copper beads. Yesterday I fished with these flies on one of my favorite rivers in Colorado with excellent results. All five of my flies got shredded. This was a surprise to me because I thought that the resin would protect the Hends Perdigon material from sharp teeth. ( This was the first time I fished Perdigon flies. )
    If you have the Hends Perdigones Pearl Body ( #34 - Olive ) tinsel, it may be a decent alternative until the Hends 233 Krystal Flash is back in stock in the US.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate the comment. The Gasonlina is an awesome fly, I tie it and use it. It however, does have a different color. Definitely that gasoline/oil on the water color. The 233 Krystal flash is a deeper, olive color. Hends comes from overseas and I'm sure the supply chains have something to do with it right now. If you want a fly that is similar to the 233 Hends flash, try Hareline peacock krystal flash with the black thread underneath. Very similar, just a smidge lighter in color.
      The UV will get eaten up after a while by teeth. Still the price to pay for catching fish!

    • @schmoonkie
      @schmoonkie 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Thanks for the speedy response and the suggestion on the alternative to the Hends Krystal Flash. I'll give that a try until the correct material arrives from Germany.

    • @schmoonkie
      @schmoonkie 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum I signed up at Dakota Angler to get notified if/when the Hends Krystal Flash #233 became available. On May 23 I got their email. They only allowed one to be purchased per customer. I got mine and tied your Olive Flash Perdigon fly. I'm headed back to Montana next week and will try it there.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Glad you got it. Good luck in MT. Hope they are good to you!

  • @alejalbor
    @alejalbor 2 года назад

    Great work and explanation. Tkanks for sharing it!

  • @davidduncan6811
    @davidduncan6811 2 года назад

    Hi Cory. I just love this economy of materials and movement. Please advise the UV touch you are using? Thanks.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Hey David. The torch is a Raidzap Pro. Really like it. Appreciate you watching.

  • @icecatching3793
    @icecatching3793 2 года назад

    I have never tied a fly before. I was following along well...until the resin and hitting it with the light and the nail polish and the light.
    Is the light to harden the material? And are they applied so the fly doesn't fall apart? Thanks

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      The light is a UV light to harden the resin. The hard bodied fly (perdigon) is designed to cut through the water and sink quickly. Hope this helps.

  • @greygraham5361
    @greygraham5361 2 года назад +1

    Do you like this olive hends crystal flash over the olive/ peacock crystal flash?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      For this particular fly, yes. It gives the darker sheen I am looking for. I do use peacock from Hareline, but it gives a lighter, more flashy color.

  • @scottsalz6899
    @scottsalz6899 2 года назад

    Thanks for another video! I am having trouble finding the flash you used in this tutorial. Can you please point me in the right direction?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Scott! I have gotten it from Competitive Angler and Dakota Angler. If they are sold out, I would ask to be put on a waiting so you can get notified when it comes in. You can always get it from overseas if you want to pay that shipping....

  • @kinahawi
    @kinahawi 5 месяцев назад

    I've seen this fly with a hot spot collar. Do you tie some that way too? Thoughts on need for hot spot? Thanks for making me a better angler!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  5 месяцев назад +1

      I personally don't tie it with a hotspot. I feel it has enough flash to it already. But you certainly can add it...sometimes the fish like the orange. Glad the videos help. Appreciate you watching and tight lines!

  • @holyworrier
    @holyworrier Год назад

    Four 'bows up to 15" today in the space of 45 minutes on the olive flash perdigon, #18. No tag. It was the first time I've fished it, but it damn sure won't be the last.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Love to hear it, Larry! Congrats to you. It is one of my best flies. Continued success to you. Tight lines!

    • @holyworrier
      @holyworrier Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum- I had a small nymph on a tag when I started fishing. It wasn't more than a few minutes passed that I created my first tangle. Only a few casts after dealing with that I had another snarl. Had to cut the tippet away and re-rig. So I left the dropper off, tied on the olive flash perdigon, had no snarls, and caught fish.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Larry-not enough people talk about fishing with a single nymph. When you go that way-you will get the best possible drifts and the side benefit is less tangles.

  • @peterkilfoyle2756
    @peterkilfoyle2756 2 года назад +1

    Good explanation of what you are doing. I am about to start tying my first Perdigons with three different size beads. Do you ever use a hot spot?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, Peter. On this particular bug, I do not. But I do on others. Good luck with your tying.

  • @cpmorris1001
    @cpmorris1001 2 года назад +1

    Great video . You hit on many of the things I've learned over time. Can you tell me the size of the applicator brush. 1.5mm , 2.0mm or 2.5mm?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, Charlie! The brush is 2.5, but the smaller ones will work as well.

  • @carywood3946
    @carywood3946 2 года назад

    Wow, awesome tutorial. I learned a lot.

  • @thomasnorthrup9990
    @thomasnorthrup9990 2 года назад

    Great video, picked up some great helpful tips!

  • @carolmeijers751
    @carolmeijers751 Год назад

    Can I ask an question, why put the black uv resin on top of the Fly, is the top of the Fly in the vise not the bottom of the Fly when its in the water.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Carol, it’s a common misconception that people think flies ride parallel to the stream bottom. Standard hooks hang straight down and jig hooks at a 45 degree angle. They also twist and turn in the drift. Real bugs get knocked around and come at trout on their side, right side up, upside down, etc…so it really doesn’t matter where you put it-the trout won’t mind.
      Hope this helps and thanks for watching!

  • @BeckSimple
    @BeckSimple Год назад +1

    Hey Cory, do you use any other color Krystal flash along with the 233 ? just want to order some and wanted to buy any other colors in 1 order. thank you.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Hey Ulugbek. The 233 is the only Hends I tie with. I like Harline Krystal flash in UV blue, fire orange and black (I'm sure Hends black works great as well). Hope this helps. Good luck to you.

    • @BeckSimple
      @BeckSimple Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum huge thank you Cory, I am gonna be first one to try the euronymphing in my country.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      @@BeckSimple Fantastic! Where are you from?

    • @BeckSimple
      @BeckSimple Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Kyrgyzstan, if you ever come around here, feel free to be my guest!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      I will! Thank you, Ulugbek. Tight lines to you!

  • @snake5124
    @snake5124 9 месяцев назад

    This looks incredible. I like that you seal the tie with glue after to keep from unthreading. Also, you paint the shot blank. Looks amazing.
    Do you sell these ties?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  9 месяцев назад

      Appreciate it, Snake! Thanks for your interest, but I don't sell flies. Tight lines to you.

  • @dalesheehan9404
    @dalesheehan9404 2 года назад

    Thanks Cory! Timely video I plan on tying up some perdigons tomorrow,it won’t be that exact pattern due to not having the flash you used. I also use the perdi jig hook and really like how the fly looks on them. I had got these tiny artist brushes that also work great with the resin.The perdigon for sure is one of my most productive flies.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +2

      Love perdigons, Dale! Completely agree, those hooks make this fly look so good. What nice is you can over size a size 18 with a 2.8 bead. Been doing that a lot this winter.

  • @blackflycreations
    @blackflycreations Год назад

    Excellent Cory! As always thanks for sharing my friend.👌Because the fly inverts do you ever add the black wing casing to the inside or do you think it doesn't matter?
    Thanks again,👍
    Steve

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Thank you, Steve. Aaaaaah the age ole question. First, it really doesn't matter-they will hit it either way. Bugs get knocked around and come at trout sideways, right side up, upside down, etc.... They are at the mercy of the current.
      The one thing that is misunderstood is how our flies ride in the water attached to tippet. A traditional straight hook rides straight up and down, not parallel to the bottom (and twists and turns). Jig hooks ride more of a 45 degree angle. If anything, I believe the wing case is a trigger AND is simply easier and more pleasing to the eye to put it on top. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.

    • @blackflycreations
      @blackflycreations Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum I figured you'd have an educated answer, makes sense and I have to agree. Thank you, I appreciate you Cory.👍
      Steve

  • @nancysaldukas3940
    @nancysaldukas3940 Год назад

    Wondering if there is a trick to get the green side of the crystal flash showing. I could not find the hends so I got the hairline pheasant crystal flash. I tied a few and they start out green but I can't get the whole fly to stay green. I tried twisting the flash but it still ends up being half and half in color. I rewatched the video and yours come out completely green. What am I doing wronge? Thanks. Gregg

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +2

      Gregg, you want to make sure it doesn’t twist and it lays flat going up. If that isn’t the problem, my guess is you may be pulling it too hard which stretches it. This will make it lose it’s color. Just keep light pressure as you bring it up the hook. Hope this helps.

    • @nancysaldukas3940
      @nancysaldukas3940 Год назад

      Thanks. I will give that a try. Gregg

  • @jamesnichols8893
    @jamesnichols8893 2 года назад

    Thank you I have been waiting for it 😀

  • @twsdlbh
    @twsdlbh 2 года назад

    The crystal flash reminds me of peacock hurl with angle hair

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Both of those are fishy materials. Thanks for watching, James.

  • @markallen755
    @markallen755 10 месяцев назад

    As a left handed tyer my thread is always laying flat. Nice fly by the way.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  10 месяцев назад

      A lefty does have some advantages in fly tying. Appreciate you watching, Bill.

  • @flytyer2368
    @flytyer2368 2 года назад

    I agree with your comments about having a shiny wing pad. I hit mine with Sally Hansen’s Hard as Nails because it dries quickly and is indestructible. Do you prefer the horizontally oriented hook eye over the standard vertically oriented?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Honestly, I like both. I am a big Hanak fan, but these Umpqua hooks have a nice hookup ratio. Appreciate you watching and commenting. Tight lines!

  • @leighs522
    @leighs522 2 года назад +1

    Hi Cory. I love your videos, both the fishing and the tying, and really appreciate your attention to detail and the quality of your instruction. You are definitely one of the best on the Web. I do have to say that I am a bit skeptical about the difference between the Hends 233 Perdigon tinsel used with the traditional Gasolina and the 233 krystal flash you use for this fly. In my experience, almost nothing we use in fly tying is actually manufactured for fly tying (genetic hackle is probably the exception, though even that wound up as part of a hair adornment craze a few years back. Wasn't that fun!) We tiers are just too small a market. One large roll of plastic film colored in the brown with green highlights of #233 is probably enough to supply the entire planet with all they fly tying supplies it needs. Anyway, I would bet the the plastic film used to make Hands 233 perdigon tinsel, krystal flash, and even the flashabou, which they also sell, is exactly the same stuff, just processed differently to either lie flat or get twisted, perhaps under heat, then cooled to set the twist. Do you really think there is a color difference? How much can be explained by the fact that you use black thread for your fly vs. the light olive underneath the tinsel in the classic Gasolina? Have you really found your fly more consistently productive than the Gasolina (which I find to be very productive indeed)? I also really struggle to tell which side is "greener". It all depends on the type and angle of the light. I can show you the same fly that looks brown at one angle indoors that looks very green in sunlight or from another direction. Would welcome your thoughts. Just tied a bunch of Honey Badgers and can't wait to try them.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Really appreciate the kinds words! I love healthy conversations about fishing, tying, techniques, etc...Thats how we all can learn from one another. What's funny is I was a bit skeptical of the colors, as well. Hends has so many 233s, how could it be different?? I have fished the Gasolina for a couple of years, as well and it is a great fly. I tie it now with the Hends 233 Perdigon tinsel and I have tied it with the 233 Scud back and they both tie the same ( I prefer the tinsel). The 233 Krystal flash gives you a distinctly different color. It is darker green/olive and less shiny. Definitely two different looking flies. I personally have found that the 233 Krystal flash fishes better for me, especially when darker mayflies are present (BWOs for instance). And you can easily tell the green side once you start spinning it. I will use the Gasolina on lighter colored bottoms or when lighter bugs are around. Hope this helps and glad to hear you spun up some Honey Badgers. Good luck with them!

  • @ryantherock7664
    @ryantherock7664 Год назад

    Hi what is the adv/dis of using a std down eye hook compared to a jig hook?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Hey Ryan. A jig hook automatically inverts-therefore you will hook most of your fish in the top of the mouth/lip. This increases the chances of keeping them hooked (The upper mouth/lip is softer/less bone). Traditional hooks (unless they are inverted with a slotted bead) hook them in the top, bottom, etc... I use traditional hooks a lot, but always invert them.

  • @JPSutters
    @JPSutters Год назад

    Loving your videos. Another question. I noticed on multiple videos that you operate as though the top of the jig body will stay on the top when fishing it. Doesn't that become the bottom due to how the jig eye hangs?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Thank you, JP. That question is asked all the time. The reality is that the flies hang almost straight down or in the case of a jig hook -45 degrees. Real bugs get knocked around in the current all the time. The come at the trout upside down, right side up, sideways, etc…so it really doesn’t matter how you put the wing case on-it is a lot easier doing it this way with the hook out of the way. Hope this helps.

  • @benfranks6375
    @benfranks6375 Год назад

    Enjoyed this!👍

  • @bigmike3795
    @bigmike3795 Год назад

    Hands 233 is not be available anywhere. Do you have a source or what would you use in its place?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Big Mike, Tactical Fly Fisher has 233 in a micro size. That will work. You just have to take more wraps. An alternative would be Hareline Peacock or Medium Brown. Use black thread underneath. It makes a slightly lighter version.
      Only other way is to order 233 from overseas.

  • @jeffpassante5442
    @jeffpassante5442 2 года назад

    Nice detailed video. One thing confuses me though. You emphasize keeping the green side up on the Hends 233. Well I don’t know about your hank but on mine the filaments are round not flat and there seems to be alternating beads of green and brown if that makes sense. In any event there is no green side or brown side. If you rotate the fly after tying it, you will get green and brown highlights. Which actually looks pretty good. What am I missing?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, Jeff!. On a Hends 233 Krystal flash they may look round, but it has 2 distinct sides. Once you start wrapping only one side will lay flat on top. It won’t alternate. You will get that deep green sheen with ribbing. Perhaps you are twisting it really tight to get that effect?

  • @jackcallis5991
    @jackcallis5991 2 года назад

    awesome pattern!

  • @Vectorp47
    @Vectorp47 2 года назад

    Hi Corey, thank you for the help. Is the bead a tungsten copper colored bead or just a copper bead?

  • @nancysaldukas3940
    @nancysaldukas3940 Год назад

    Allot of people must have watched this video. I cannot find the 233 anywhere, all out of stock. Is there any substitute for the genes 233?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Nancy-you can order it direct form Hends (I think). But a good substitute is Hareline Krystal Flash in Peacock

    • @nancysaldukas3940
      @nancysaldukas3940 Год назад

      Thanks. I will use that. Great videos!

  • @johnsamothrakis4621
    @johnsamothrakis4621 2 года назад

    Thanks for another Great informative video 👍

  • @nymphtasticflyfishingtying7623
    @nymphtasticflyfishingtying7623 2 года назад

    🔥🔥🔥Very productive pattern 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jamesnichols8893
    @jamesnichols8893 2 года назад

    Very nice I was waiting for this one 😀

  • @title1ted
    @title1ted Год назад

    How do you fish them? Like any other nymph? Or do you HAVE TO use the Euro Nymph technique?

    • @title1ted
      @title1ted Год назад

      In other words, do I have to short line/high stick nymph them? Or can I cast them and let them dead drift 20-30 feet?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      You can fish them like any other nymph, whatever your style may be. They will just sink quicker than your others. Thanks for watching.

    • @title1ted
      @title1ted Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum thank you for the quick response! I liked and subscribed. I'm taking a quick inventory and then heading to my local fly shop to purchase supplies. I can't wait to fish these!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Appreciate the sub! Good luck to you!

  • @larrys9499
    @larrys9499 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome! When you tie this in uv blue or black is the process the same?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  10 месяцев назад

      Yes it is, Larry. Always the same steps. Appreciate you watching.

  • @gerryfelix5948
    @gerryfelix5948 2 года назад

    Good stuff here, follow all your videos.
    I tie my flies with an old fashioned vice that I got from my uncle years ago. It’s non rotational as you might guess. Is it possible to use resin and a uv light without being able to rotate the fly? Might be a bit clumsy, but I’m guessing it might work.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, Gerry! You can cure it with a vice like you have by moving the light around. Just be super careful not to shine it in your eyes. Thanks so much for watching.

  • @jayboogie27
    @jayboogie27 2 года назад

    Dang! Having trouble sourcing the Hends krystal flash.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Jason, I’m sure it’s a supply chain issue. You can get on a waiting list with Competitive Angler and they will notify you when it comes in.

    • @jayboogie27
      @jayboogie27 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum appreciate the reply! I ended up ordering straight from Hends… we’ll see if it shows up 😂😂

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      I would have done the same thing!

    • @jayboogie27
      @jayboogie27 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum a quick update. I ordered direct from Hends and they got this to me in NH in under 2 weeks. Shipping was only about $3. Not bad at all!

  • @BIGJ3748
    @BIGJ3748 2 года назад

    Hi Cory, enjoy your video's. Wondering where I can buy Hends 233 krystal flash. Cant seem to find it anywhere.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, John. Hends comes from the Czech Republic, so I’m sure it’s a supply issue. It’s one of those things where you have to keep looking. In the meantime, and good substitute is Hareline Krystal flash in peacock. Make sure you use black thread. Hope this helps.

    • @BIGJ3748
      @BIGJ3748 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Thank you.

  • @woodsbluegoddess
    @woodsbluegoddess 2 года назад

    very nice presentation.... some good details and tips, What are your favorite tying scissors ?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it! I like Dr. Slick Tungsten Carbide scissors. Super sharp.

  • @johncatlin1702
    @johncatlin1702 11 месяцев назад

    Great tutorial.

  • @oldsmugglerflyfishing
    @oldsmugglerflyfishing 2 года назад +1

    Great video.

  • @TERRYBIGGENDEN
    @TERRYBIGGENDEN 2 года назад

    Excellent advice and demo. :-) Thanks.

  • @rjf1877
    @rjf1877 2 года назад

    Very nice pattern Do you ever add a hot spot or tag to this fly ?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it. You can certainly do it, but I have not. I feel like there is enough flash the way it is.

    • @rjf1877
      @rjf1877 2 года назад

      Thanks for your quick response ! In the Sierra's our mayfly nymphs are rarely larger that #18, I have been experimenting using "drop shot" weighting rather than tungsten beaded flies. I know this doesn't conform to competition regs, but i not in tournaments, and it seems that the weight free flies move much more naturally and it is really simple to adjust the drop shot weight to match the current speed. i was wondering your thoughts on this technique. I have recently been using 24 feet of Cortland Euro Nymph Leader 6# and it really seems to cast better, and is more manageable than mono and amnesia.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      @@rjf1877 I have used the drop shot method and it does work, however, I do prefer the weight in my bugs. I just feel I have a better connection to my bugs. If they are on small bugs and hard on the bottom, I'll put my heavier bug on top and the smaller on the bottom. I also tie size 18 bugs with 2.8mm and 3mm beads for my "heavy" flies. I have fished some pretty technical tailwaters and have had great success when they are on small flies.
      6# test is going to be a lot better for you. Any modern Euro rod will actually perform better with a lighter leader setup.
      Tight lines to you!

  • @phillipparson8500
    @phillipparson8500 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome job

  • @Donde_estoy
    @Donde_estoy 2 года назад

    Cory, does this pattern imitate a caddis larvae out of its case? I’m just realizing what the caddis cases look like in NY and one time I pulled a green little worm out of one. Hoping that I’m finally putting it all together.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Christopher, they certainly do represent them. But I feel they also imitate mayflies as well, especially a BWO. You can never go wrong when you put something olive on the end of your line. That’s the beauty about this fly….BWOs and Caddis are everywhere.

    • @Donde_estoy
      @Donde_estoy 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Awesome. Thanks for all the tips. Your stupid simple pheasant tail has been insanely productive for me this year.

  • @Rubo7
    @Rubo7 2 года назад

    What bobbin is your favorite? After years of tieing which one would you recommend?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Ruben, I like the Dr. Slick ceramic 4in bobbin. I've tried other "fancy" ones and these are every bit as good. Simple and easy.

    • @Rubo7
      @Rubo7 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum thank you just ordered it on Amazon. I purchased one of those magnetic $100 ones and don't like it.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Anytime Ruben.

  • @SticksAandstonesBozo
    @SticksAandstonesBozo Год назад

    What part of the country do you fish ? As no one around me uses these I’m curious to why.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      I live in Virginia-fish a ton in the NE. This fly comes from Spain and is a very popular with euro nymphing.

  • @georgewcamp
    @georgewcamp 2 года назад

    on the jig hook won't the wing case be on the bottom as tied?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      George, bugs twist, turn and flip in the drift. They don’t ride perfectly through the current. A traditional hook actually rides straight up and down in the drift. A jig hook drifts more at a 45 degree angle. The wing case will actually be facing more up in the drift and in the line of site of the trout. Hope this helps and I appreciate you watching.

  • @jcataldo1988
    @jcataldo1988 24 дня назад

    Are you using the regular or fine Krystal flash?

  • @prestongizzi2210
    @prestongizzi2210 2 года назад

    Is this flash that much different then peacock? They look so similar. And same thread base. Would I notice a difference using this flash over a peacock Perdigon?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Preston, I use Hareline Peacock with black thread as well. It is a lighter and more shiny color once you put the UV on. I catch a lot of fish on it.
      But what I like about the Hends 233 is it is a deeper green and not as shiny. A little more subtle.

  • @RichB-q5e
    @RichB-q5e Год назад

    Your videos are extremely helpful. I’m getting into the microliter. Do you use a colored leader for your whole running line or just for the indicator section?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Glad they help, Rich. Yes, I use a colored leader for the whole thing. You want to be able to see your whole leader and what it is doing throughout the entire drift. Also, having the leader colored helps you track your sighter when the glare is tough….you can follow it down from the tip of the rod and immediately pick up your sighter. Hope this helps.

    • @RichB-q5e
      @RichB-q5e Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Excellent. What’s brands do you use, and can I buy them in spools ? 4X preferably.

  • @steelhead6368
    @steelhead6368 Год назад

    Just curious if this fly would work in other regions. I noticed you fish Penn state a lot. Would this work for streams in Canada or is it a trial and error thing?
    I fly fish but am just new to euronymphing and your videos are one of the best out there. Great details and tips. Thank you.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      They originate out of Spain and will most definitely work in Canada and all around the rest of the world.
      Thanks for your comment and I appreciate you watching. Good luck to you!

  • @David-mt2qe
    @David-mt2qe 2 года назад

    Love your videos, can you recommend a replacement for the 233 Krystal flash? Can’t get it anywhere, thanks!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Appreciate it, David. Hareline Krystal Flash in Peacock is a good alternative. Make sure you use black thread underneath.

    • @David-mt2qe
      @David-mt2qe 2 года назад

      Thanks, I had to have the right material. So I ordered it from hends, overseas, and they sent it to me. Fairly fast shipping!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      @@David-mt2qe perfect! I would have done the same. Good luck with it!

    • @David-mt2qe
      @David-mt2qe Год назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum - Love this fly, thanks again for the awesome channel and tips. See here: ruclips.net/video/yA-fTp_iP0c/видео.html (includes shout out to you and your channel)

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад

      Nice David! Glad it is good to you and thanks for the shout out!

  • @smoothlarryhughes
    @smoothlarryhughes 2 года назад

    Great video as usual! I tied some of these up and used them the past two times I've gone out here in southeastern PA. It was by far my best producer. I also caught my personal best rainbow on this fly yesterday...approx 17-18 inches. I was wondering where you recommend for buying tying supplies as well. Tight lines!

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, James. Awesome! Glad to hear they are working for you! I buy a ton of stuff from Tactical Fly Fisher. Competitive Angler is really good as well.

    • @1Troutguy
      @1Troutguy 2 года назад

      Should try to plan a trip to Wyoming, anywhere on the North Platte produces Nice Big Rainbows, it has at least 5 dams along the way.

  • @austin9258
    @austin9258 2 года назад

    What a stunning perdigon. For those of us who don't currently tie flies, have you encountered any commercially available perdigons that have similar specs (particularly the body material) to your olive flash perdigon? (I don't believe you sell flies, but maybe I'm wrong.)

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Thank you, Austin! I don't tie commercially, but would recommend Small Batch Bugs. He does a great job. His Gasolina (without the orange collar) is very close to this.

    • @austin9258
      @austin9258 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Thank you!

  • @aaronjohnson7992
    @aaronjohnson7992 2 года назад

    It seems that the whole world is sold out of the Hends 233. Do you have a suitable substitute for it?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Aaron, I’m sure it is a supply chain issue. Hareline Krystal flash in peacock is a great substitute. Make sure you use black thread underneath.

    • @aaronjohnson7992
      @aaronjohnson7992 2 года назад

      Awesome, thank you.

  • @ryantherock7664
    @ryantherock7664 Год назад

    I think some call this the "gasolinas" perdigon as it looks like light on a gas slick.This hends 233 Krystal flash is almost impossible to find.This seems to be the fly of the moment

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      Ryan, it is darker than a traditional Gasolina. I’ve been tying this for over 5 years. It seems lately that any green Krystal flash is named a Gasolina. The traditional Gasolina (which I use as well) is tied with 233 perdigon body or flash back. Appreciate you watching.

  • @outfaded34
    @outfaded34 2 года назад

    Hi Cory, I can't seem to find that Krystal Flash. Is there an alternative?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад +1

      Hey Jeremy…Hareline Krystal Flash in peacock is a good alternative. Make sure you use black thread underneath.

    • @outfaded34
      @outfaded34 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Thanks Cory

  • @brooktroutangler5917
    @brooktroutangler5917 Год назад

    Hareline rootbeer crystal flash comparable?

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  Год назад +1

      No, but Hareline Peacock is close. Make sure you use black thread underneath.

  • @jamesnichols8893
    @jamesnichols8893 2 года назад +1

    Hah I never have the correct material Ordering some now Are there any other Hends colors you suggest

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      James, this is the only Hends color I use. I use Hareline’s peacock, UV blue, and Fl. Fire Orange

    • @fishman64197
      @fishman64197 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum I can't find anyone that has that Hends 233 in stock.

    • @OldDominionTroutBum
      @OldDominionTroutBum  2 года назад

      Mike, not sure how I can help. Perhaps you can get on a waiting list so they can tell you when it comes in stock. Competitive Angler is where I buy it.

    • @fishman64197
      @fishman64197 2 года назад

      @@OldDominionTroutBum Thank you, I will try that.

    • @fishman64197
      @fishman64197 2 года назад

      I found some listed as color peacock/black on ebay from Germany. That would be the correct color right? no color number.