I actually love the jubilee better - it hides scratches way easier and actually it’s more comfortable. It’s a great move from Rolex to make the GMT more unique and different then a submariner for example. The new movement is a plus adder 👌🏻
I’m going to say the jubilee actually looks nice. Though the oyster on my Blnr I’ve come to love. Hate the scratches that show up but then it’s still classy.
I personally prefer the look on the jubilee bracelet. I never really liked the combination of blue and black but it seems to work better on the jubilee. But thats just my opinion. Love your videos! Looking forward to all your content from Baselworld!
In my humble opinion, I think the new Batman on Jubilee is beautiful! From the moment I saw its launch at Baselworld, I loved it. You mentioned that the Black and Blue makes the watch “sporty” which doesn’t go so well with the sophisticated look of the jubilee bracelet. I disagree. I think the black and blue on the jubilee does give it a more sophisticated/dressier look, but it’s not a misfit. Perhaps this just boils down to preference. Then again, what do I know??? I’m no expert.
It seems clear now that Rolex are going to make the GMTs stand out from the Subs by changing the bracelet to jubilee. That way to make it stand out from both the explorer, subs and Daytona’s .
Regardless of looks, the new movement has ceramic bearings on the rotor as well as longer power reserve. The new movement is a bigger deal than you think.
I think the jubilee looks really nice on the GMT. I went for Oyster on my DJ41, because I wanted to make it look a little sportier, its a much more dressy watch. But the GMT looks sporty on either bracelet, the jubilee doesnt make it look too dressy or anything. I think I prefer it this way. Those polished links on the Oyster are a nightmare scratch wise, i think it makes a lot of sense to have this watch on the jubilee. Not least because it sets a little more apart from the Exp2 and the Sub by not having the same type of bracelet (albeit polished more on the old Oyster). I think the Batman looks great either way but Id choose the Jubliee version if possible myself, and I def wouldnt pay a premium for a Batman 1 with the Oyster, to me it makes no sense.
Ced GT I prefer oyster as well, but I never liked the polished center links. If the old Batman has fully brushed bracelet I’d prefer that all the way...but I kind of like the jubilee on it this time
I don’t see why a simple bracelet change is seen as the end of the world by some folks. Yes, I too prefer the oyster bracelet, but I also think the new caliber 3238 represents an upgrade that keeps Rolex sports models on the cutting edge of mechanical watch technology. I’d have no problem wearing this new watch, although I did decide against selling my 116610LN Sub just to get one. I should also mention that I recently purchased a Datejust 41 (Rolesor) and chose it with an oyster bracelet.
David you know whats funny.. I collect the 4 Digit Models and its funny to see how the bracelets shifted from Datejust to GMT and the other way around. So to see more and more Datejusts on Oysters and GMTs on Jubilees is very different for me.
I don’t think Rolex sports models are cutting edge at all in the modern day. Rolex clearly don’t care about that anymore hence why they are putting jubilee bands on GMTs.
possibly because rolex thought it was a good idea to put jubilee with an oyster clasp on their 40+mm watches and discontinue the jubilee's hidden clasp...
I love the jubilee much more. I feel that the jubilee will hide the scratches much better than the oyster with PCL. Now if it came with the brushed oyster with glide lock, we would have a different situation.
The jubilee looks super stylish on the GMT Batman! Less a muscle watch and more a quality timepiece!! Don’t forget, as you noted about the jubilee on the Pepsi....It looks awesome and classy, also because we’re used to it ;-)
@@BarkandJack I predict they will come on an oyster straight from rolex in the future, only difference is the watch and band will be white gold only, or jubulie and steel
@NoSuchThingAs GlobalWarming well to be honest I see more poor ppl with only 1watch.. a sub!!! The watch that makes the most money to Rolex out of all..
Rolex is not interested in sporty anymore. They’re going full Panerai. It’s all about bling and status now. The two tone sea dweller is a better indicator of this.
I agree. When i first started looking at subs in an Italian shop all the guys there agreed that they preferred the older version without the maxi case that they reckoned was designed for the Russian and Asian markets.
So I am a blue collar worker, I’m a maintenance mechanic for a distribution company and work on their equipment. Well, I like mechanical watches. You have no idea how many times I’ve broken a seiko. I bought a submariner a couple years ago and it hasn’t given me some single problem. It doesn’t stop due to shock, it doesn’t run fast due to magnets, it runs within its 2 sec a day, being ceramic and sapphire the only thing showing any scuffs is the stainless. It’s been a fantastic watch, I absolutely love it. I wouldn’t want an aluminum bezel. I also love the bracelet and it’s quick adjustment. So I dunno if it’s “bling” it’s just a really really well built watch that day after day still looks nice and is very satisfying to own.
Jubilee and two-tone bezel seems to be the new norm to define modern GMT stainless steel line these days.. No more confusion between GMT and submariner. I suspect that the days of a blk/blk/blk (LN) are forever behind, as it is also clear that 2 tone bezel were more loved. But the LN was also the 50th anniversary GMT with it's GMT green hand and green line, and in time it will probably sell for the same, if not more, than the much loved BLNR mk1 (on oyster), which is a beautiful watch; and now has become an instant "classic". I for one, like the BLNR on the jubilee as a concept Rolex is adopting, even though the original BLNR is the one we are all more used to see, and tend to love more for that very reason. Good video!
Hey Adrian, love what youre doing with this channel! Depending on your Rolex service centre, if you're not a fan of the polished centre links on your batman, they can brush them out for you, and its totally reversible in the future If your not a fan, would you get it done?
I have the new 126715CHNR and love the fact that it has the latest and greatest Rolex movement ... what's inside the Rolex matters as much as what's out side... too maybe buyers focus on the look, bezel color, etc..
I was informed by an AD that the jubilee braclet would'nt fit my origianal Batman (2015). The attachment at the lugs is basically a jigsaw piece and they have made them slightly different. Really good channel BTW.
I like both batmans. The jubilee is cool but the oyster bracelet just suits the batman's sport look. Loving the content Adrian and looking forward to the next videos. Cheers 👍
Jubilee bracelets are much more comfortable and do not show scratches, etc. So I think the new Batman is an improvement and looks more like a tool watch which was its first iteration.
I'm the rare Batman Mk1 owner who's not thrilled with this. I bought my Batman in October/November and I bought it to be my daily wear watch. I expected that in 30 years it might be a 20k+ watch, I didn't really expect it to become one 18-24mos after buying it. I'm not going to be super comfortable with it as daily wear if it keeps climbing. I may try and get my hands on a Pepsi and if the Pepsi keeps falling and the Batman keeps climbing I may end up in the odd position of feeling more comfortable wearing a Pepsi day to day (assuming I can get one anytime soon) than the Batman. Who could've imagined that being the case 11 months ago?
I do love that tiny crown on the new model but agree the oyster is better. Slightly off-topic, but here goes.... do you think Tudor will eventually do a Batman and how would it look?
Thoughts on the Black GMT Master 2? Will the market price for these keep on going up, or do you think they will eventually stop increasing? It's already a "belief" that Rolex will reintroduce the black in 2019, with the new movement and jubilee bracelet, but who the hell really knows what Rolex will do anyways haha.
i like the batgirl's 70 hours power reserve, do you think it's worth it to buy an extra submariner oyster to change it myself? the bracelet is not cheap either. just a thought....
I like the new jubilee bracelets on these two watches but agree with you it looks great on the Pepsi. However I would never buy a GMT on a Oyster strap because I absolutely hate the shiny centre band which marks like crazy. Whereas I would buy the Batman or the Pepsi on the jubilee.
Love the new Jubilee, rang my dealer on the day I found out....his reply " ah John, what watch would you like now, that we can't get?" Hilarious! Now waiting for 3 watches!!!
Jubilee on the blnr Batman aka batgirl is the way to go. On oyster it looks too much like a sub and doesn’t pop - kinda boring to be. Omega. Once you try it on jubilee you will understand. It is much more comfortable and doesn’t scratch like oyster pcl and way more stylish. Oysters for sub and Daytona, jubilee for GMT 100%.
Very nice video thank you. Personally, I think the Jubilee works appropriately with the GMT Master 2. May we remind ourselves that Rolex don't make sports watches, they make professional watches! Professional tool watches like the SD43, Subs, Deepsea's etc work better with the full on Oystersteel bracelet's. Bearing in mind that the Rolex 126710BLNR GMT is basically a Pilots watch, so a Jubilee bracelet really suits it, its gives the watch a nice presence on the wrist, ideal for a dressier pilots piece.
While I prefer the look of the oyster bracelet the pcl are a horrible scratch magnet. The jubilee will hold up to scratches better and the new Batman with the better movement has to be the one to go for.
Daniel Meier your a %100 right and it’s not only with the Batman. Think about the Daytona’s it’s even worse, people will pay 20k plus on the secondary market for a steel watch with a ceramic bezel, meanwhile you can get a solid gold day date 40 for mid 20s on the same secondary market. Miraculously you can even go into an AD and buy a day date 40 too, imagine that. With that being said, Rolex knows exactly what they are doing....touché
@@Fetishmale no one cares if it looks fake to you. The prices for Rolex steel sports watches are ridiculous on the secondary market, there's no doubt about it.
I couldn’t disagree more. The black and blue on the Batman looks way dressier than the red and blue Pepsi, which looks more sporty. Therefore, the Jubilee on the Batman suits the colour scheme far more Pepsi, which looks better with the Oyster. Obviously, neither of them are “dress” watches. But in this context, I’m sure you get my point.. (my opinion😂)
You're 100% spot on again Adrian, I love the jubilee bracelet but it doesn't work with the Batman. Even the Hulk wouldn't look good with the jubilee. Somehow it just works with the Pepsi and the Pepsi alone.
I’m pretty sure you can still get the 2022 Batman on both straps not just jubilee. I was offered a 2022 on oyster, said no & one month later I was offered it on jubilee which I prefer 👍🏼
Hi Adrian, almost hitting the 41k subs, well done. As always people will look for discontinued SS models with Rolex, the Batman is not an exception. This, in my opinion, is why the price of the Batman is getting dearer, not because people prefer the Oyster. GMT were historically sold with the Jubilee and , as you know, Rolex keeps tradition going. The Jub is much more comfortable than the Oyster, it catches the light differently and will hide scratches much better than the Oyster. At any rate it will be impossible to get at retail price as usual. Thanks for sharing. Regards.
Adrian, I think I’m right in saying that due to a slight change in the alignment of the pins in the lugs, the jubilee and oyster bracelets are NOT interchangeable, ie you can’t put a jubilee on a “mark 1” Batman and vice versa with the oyster on a “mark 2”
Great channel... But I have to disagree. I really like the jubilee on the Batman. In fact, I like it so much I just ordered the new model from my local Rolex dealer (it helps that he's a friend) for $12K. But I won't get it until October.
I absolutely love this and have looked so many times on-line and no local AD will entertain me as I have not used them before! I have heard that Rolex have more available now and I have been trying to hunt one down, but nobody wants to even put me on a waiting list. I have a few Rolex, and other makes, so if they don't want my business, then there are other makes available!
Nice video, as always! But actually, I think the Batman is much classier and more dressy than the Pepsi and works much better on the jubilee... Though a simple oyster bracelet - if it came without any polished parts - would probably the best!
Hiya Adrian, any chance your NATOs will be coming out in 18mm? Some of my favourite watches are in 18mm and it would be great to wear them on the B&J Natos. Thanks!
@@VegasMilgauss Thanks Vegas. I only picked it up in January and already looking like a solid purchase. I've got my name down for a Batgirl but that could take decades!
Hypothetically what’s the least you would accept for your Batman? I’m considering selling mine. As the price goes up the more I feel like I need to baby it and the less I want to wear it. Should I free up the cash? Or just sit smug knowing I’ve got a hot watch that I love? Ps I have a back sub date anyway
Adrian I think you're spot on. The jubilee on the batman just looks off. I have a similar view about the Pepsi with a jubilee but to a lesser extent. I think the shade of blue they use is too sporty for such a refined bracelet. The red in the coke is a classy enough color to hold up to the bold look of the jubilee. Anyways, appreciate the hard work for this channel. Keep it up mate!
I love the Batman on jubilee! Love the Rolex Jubilee in the modern bigger case watches (GMTs and Datejust 41s). The look is clean and classy and can go anywhere.
I’m not one to speculate on price. If one is lucky to have one already, especially at retail, keep it and wear it and most of all, enjoy it. I agree Adrian, the jubilee bracelet is lacking for me.
Hey Adrian, I was happy to see you at Baselworld. Although it's watch enthusiast heaven it does seem stressful if you're there for business. I enjoyed your coverage. Best regards, Sir Willie Stroker
Dude let me just start by saying I love your channel and your journey. I’m only a humble vintage ex ii owner not a Batman gmt owner. But I love the new jubilee. Perhaps there’s a slight generational schism, I associate a jubilee with sports Rolex. I associate it with 60s 70s aviation sport models, whose mixture of submariner oyster case with gmt functionality took the case from ocean to air. The oyster is wonderful and sort of masculine while the jubilee is the same but slightly older... Anyway it’s all just fun and different tastes. Keep up the great work.
That's the logical thing... the older 116710BLNR should be dropping back near to it's original retail price with the newer 126710BLNR going way over list. However, the reverse is happening. The older Batman keeps going up in value. Does it make sense? Probably not but the unfulfilled demand is/was just too high and being a discontinued model, it will only get harder and harder to get. Same thing happened with the discontinued Kermit... sells for a lot more compared to the Hulk. Cheers!
karlo castro True, with the exception of it being truly discontinued. Sure the reference number is discontinued, but the blue and black GMT is still available and being made from Rolex with a better movement and different bracelet. The oyster Batman won’t go for as much as the jubilee eventually, these damn flippers are just doing what they do and using any excuse to try and screw people out of more money, even though the excuse for the premium should only be “supply and demand” vs it being discontinued.
@@justinh1258, it will be interesting to see how much these two "batman" references are selling 2 or 3 years from now. Surely both will be hard to get at retail (or at least close to it) for mere mortals. What I'm really looking forward with Rolex is an updated (and hopefully not just the new 3235) Sub line! It's way overdue imho. It's great interacting with a fellow watch fan. Cheers!
karlo castro Yeah, there will definitely be premiums but I have a feeling the oyster Batman is wayyy overhyped right now and a poor buy. There will be some people getting burned for sure, wait till next year for one is my opinion. The sub will get the new movement within the next few years, but I absolutely love the 3135 and it’s just such a reliable and proven movement.
Sorry but your opinion is based on you have the mk1 batman... Everyone wants the new batman... But no one has the money to get premium or have a pretty awesome contact on Rolex AD
Oyster on Batman all day, maybe Jubilee on Datejust but I still prefer the Oyster. Watch Rolex offer it next year so folks jump on the new movement with the Oyster. I’m looking to add another Rolex to my collection but want a proper dress watch first, looking at JLC ultra thin. Also looking at Oris 65 or Tudor BB58...any thoughts?
I agree with you 100% about the jubilee on the new Batman. I own the Batman on oyster and I love it. And I also switch it out for a Rubber B strap as well. Great videos keep it up
Do you still have your Batman? I read a comment on another vid of yours and it mentioned you flipping it. I didn’t see a video on it tho? Unless I missed something...
Bark and Jack thanks! I’ll be sure to look it up... also; always meant to ask, why “bark and jack”? I recently discovered your channel and love the content. Always curious to where the name comes from...
Mike C thanks for finding the channel. I started an instagram account about 7 years ago with a mate. My last name is Barker, his was Jackson. So we called it Barker and Jackson. It died off and I started using it and just called it Bark and Jack. Not a great story really. Haha.
I actually love the jubilee better - it hides scratches way easier and actually it’s more comfortable. It’s a great move from Rolex to make the GMT more unique and different then a submariner for example.
The new movement is a plus adder 👌🏻
I’m going to say the jubilee actually looks nice. Though the oyster on my Blnr I’ve come to love. Hate the scratches that show up but then it’s still classy.
My gahd man, wear your Batman for Pete’s sake! It’s too clean!
I wasn’t really a fan of the jubilee bracket until I saw it on the new 2019 Batman. I think it looks fantastic.
yes fantastic
It’s looks even better when you put it on. Very handsome looking even for an ugly guy like me.
Agree 100% slam dunk home run on Jubilee!! IMHO
I personally prefer the look on the jubilee bracelet. I never really liked the combination of blue and black but it seems to work better on the jubilee. But thats just my opinion. Love your videos! Looking forward to all your content from Baselworld!
In my humble opinion, I think the new Batman on Jubilee is beautiful! From the moment I saw its launch at Baselworld, I loved it.
You mentioned that the Black and Blue makes the watch “sporty” which doesn’t go so well with the sophisticated look of the jubilee bracelet. I disagree. I think the black and blue on the jubilee does give it a more sophisticated/dressier look, but it’s not a misfit.
Perhaps this just boils down to preference. Then again, what do I know??? I’m no expert.
Too dainty
i agree i have the batman on jubille works great, but the pepsi should always be on an oyster as per it original heritage.
No, it looks completely wrong.
It seems clear now that Rolex are going to make the GMTs stand out from the Subs by changing the bracelet to jubilee. That way to make it stand out from both the explorer, subs and Daytona’s .
Regardless of looks, the new movement has ceramic bearings on the rotor as well as longer power reserve. The new movement is a bigger deal than you think.
I think the jubilee looks really nice on the GMT. I went for Oyster on my DJ41, because I wanted to make it look a little sportier, its a much more dressy watch. But the GMT looks sporty on either bracelet, the jubilee doesnt make it look too dressy or anything. I think I prefer it this way. Those polished links on the Oyster are a nightmare scratch wise, i think it makes a lot of sense to have this watch on the jubilee. Not least because it sets a little more apart from the Exp2 and the Sub by not having the same type of bracelet (albeit polished more on the old Oyster). I think the Batman looks great either way but Id choose the Jubliee version if possible myself, and I def wouldnt pay a premium for a Batman 1 with the Oyster, to me it makes no sense.
Batman jubilee all the way.
Not a fan of the Jubilee bracelet. Much prefer the oyster.
Ced GT I prefer oyster as well, but I never liked the polished center links. If the old Batman has fully brushed bracelet I’d prefer that all the way...but I kind of like the jubilee on it this time
Billeh I like the jubilee and the improved watch
Jubilee costs more
OYSTER is nicer, but that's the one I have so I'm biased.
Stainless steel sub or the new Batman jubilee ?? Too similar ?
I don’t see why a simple bracelet change is seen as the end of the world by some folks. Yes, I too prefer the oyster bracelet, but I also think the new caliber 3238 represents an upgrade that keeps Rolex sports models on the cutting edge of mechanical watch technology. I’d have no problem wearing this new watch, although I did decide against selling my 116610LN Sub just to get one. I should also mention that I recently purchased a Datejust 41 (Rolesor) and chose it with an oyster bracelet.
David you know whats funny.. I collect the 4 Digit Models and its funny to see how the bracelets shifted from Datejust to GMT and the other way around. So to see more and more Datejusts on Oysters and GMTs on Jubilees is very different for me.
I don’t think Rolex sports models are cutting edge at all in the modern day. Rolex clearly don’t care about that anymore hence why they are putting jubilee bands on GMTs.
possibly because rolex thought it was a good idea to put jubilee with an oyster clasp on their 40+mm watches and discontinue the jubilee's hidden clasp...
I love the jubilee much more. I feel that the jubilee will hide the scratches much better than the oyster with PCL. Now if it came with the brushed oyster with glide lock, we would have a different situation.
Also the Batman jubilee with resale for much more when released than the Batman oyster.
The jubilee looks super stylish on the GMT Batman! Less a muscle watch and more a quality timepiece!!
Don’t forget, as you noted about the jubilee on the Pepsi....It looks awesome and classy, also because we’re used to it ;-)
for the money rolex charges, you should be able to order the bracelet of your choice ... oyster w/ or w/o PCLs, rubber, jubilee, etc
I completely agree. I think that was the case back in the day. It would make the piece a touch more individual as well.
@@BarkandJack I predict they will come on an oyster straight from rolex in the future, only difference is the watch and band will be white gold only, or jubulie and steel
@NoSuchThingAs GlobalWarming you are a fool..
@@BarkandJack yes but who buys mainly Rolex doesn't really care about individualism... They care more for recognition, resell price & status.
@NoSuchThingAs GlobalWarming well to be honest I see more poor ppl with only 1watch.. a sub!!! The watch that makes the most money to Rolex out of all..
I love the jubilee bracelet and I love the Batman so now I like it even more!
Rolex is not interested in sporty anymore. They’re going full Panerai. It’s all about bling and status now. The two tone sea dweller is a better indicator of this.
mrdisco99 seems like it’s been lux and blink since 1985...
I agree. When i first started looking at subs in an Italian shop all the guys there agreed that they preferred the older version without the maxi case that they reckoned was designed for the Russian and Asian markets.
yh and look where that brought panerai...
which Panerai is bling? they dont do bling
So I am a blue collar worker, I’m a maintenance mechanic for a distribution company and work on their equipment. Well, I like mechanical watches. You have no idea how many times I’ve broken a seiko. I bought a submariner a couple years ago and it hasn’t given me some single problem. It doesn’t stop due to shock, it doesn’t run fast due to magnets, it runs within its 2 sec a day, being ceramic and sapphire the only thing showing any scuffs is the stainless. It’s been a fantastic watch, I absolutely love it. I wouldn’t want an aluminum bezel. I also love the bracelet and it’s quick adjustment. So I dunno if it’s “bling” it’s just a really really well built watch that day after day still looks nice and is very satisfying to own.
I absolutely love it. Classy meets sporty. But I like it either way.
Jubilee and two-tone bezel seems to be the new norm to define modern GMT stainless steel line these days.. No more confusion between GMT and submariner. I suspect that the days of a blk/blk/blk (LN) are forever behind, as it is also clear that 2 tone bezel were more loved. But the LN was also the 50th anniversary GMT with it's GMT green hand and green line, and in time it will probably sell for the same, if not more, than the much loved BLNR mk1 (on oyster), which is a beautiful watch; and now has become an instant "classic". I for one, like the BLNR on the jubilee as a concept Rolex is adopting, even though the original BLNR is the one we are all more used to see, and tend to love more for that very reason. Good video!
Still loving your videos and your takes on what Rolex is doing! Keep up the great work! We all appreciate it.
"this channel is about watches"...what?!?! where did the coffee go??
Lol Billy 🤣
💭 exactly the same haha
Hahah. I realised I didn’t need to say “I talk about watches and drink coffee”. People can see I’m drinking coffee. 🤣
@@BarkandJack no, Adrian, it was your catch phrase... plus amazing content sir, my go to watch channel, passed Federico for me...
steven john thanks so much Steven. 🍻
I like the new Batman, it looks smart.
I agree with your point of view 100 %
I really like the (new) Batman on Jubilee bracelet!
Hey Adrian, love what youre doing with this channel! Depending on your Rolex service centre, if you're not a fan of the polished centre links on your batman, they can brush them out for you, and its totally reversible in the future If your not a fan, would you get it done?
I have the new 126715CHNR and love the fact that it has the latest and greatest Rolex movement ... what's inside the Rolex matters as much as what's out side... too maybe buyers focus on the look, bezel color, etc..
I love it on the jubilee but it’s great to get your perspective. Awesome channel - thanks 👊
I was informed by an AD that the jubilee braclet would'nt fit my origianal Batman (2015). The attachment at the lugs is basically a jigsaw piece and they have made them slightly different. Really good channel BTW.
116710LN price have gone through the roof as well. P.S. great channel, subscribed!
I love the jubilee bracelet, but not on the batman
I like both batmans. The jubilee is cool but the oyster bracelet just suits the batman's sport look. Loving the content Adrian and looking forward to the next videos. Cheers 👍
New Batman - great improvements 👌🏻👌🏻
Jubilee bracelets are much more comfortable and do not show scratches, etc. So I think the new Batman is an improvement and looks more like a tool watch which was its first iteration.
100% agree. Jubilee does not match. Old Batmans will skyrocket
I actually like the Batman on the jubilee, I have it on oyster already and it’s actually selling for 13.5k here in the states.
I'm the rare Batman Mk1 owner who's not thrilled with this. I bought my Batman in October/November and I bought it to be my daily wear watch. I expected that in 30 years it might be a 20k+ watch, I didn't really expect it to become one 18-24mos after buying it. I'm not going to be super comfortable with it as daily wear if it keeps climbing. I may try and get my hands on a Pepsi and if the Pepsi keeps falling and the Batman keeps climbing I may end up in the odd position of feeling more comfortable wearing a Pepsi day to day (assuming I can get one anytime soon) than the Batman. Who could've imagined that being the case 11 months ago?
Prefer it on oyster, jubilee on datejust.
Love the authentic comments and reviews. Thanks for the NATOs, quality products
Thanks so much Mitch. 👍🏻
Improvement movement wise, and the classier jubilee bracelet. Yeah the new one all the way for me 👍🏻😎
I do love that tiny crown on the new model but agree the oyster is better.
Slightly off-topic, but here goes.... do you think Tudor will eventually do a Batman and how would it look?
The new one is much better with the jubilee bracelet. Those polished centre links will really show a patina that not everyone will care for over time.
Thoughts on the Black GMT Master 2? Will the market price for these keep on going up, or do you think they will eventually stop increasing? It's already a "belief" that Rolex will reintroduce the black in 2019, with the new movement and jubilee bracelet, but who the hell really knows what Rolex will do anyways haha.
i like the batgirl's 70 hours power reserve, do you think it's worth it to buy an extra submariner oyster to change it myself? the bracelet is not cheap either. just a thought....
I really like it. I think both look great. When the dust has settled everyone will start appreciating the new one
I think polished centre links look better on the jubilee, plus it’s a nod to the 1970s GMT pieces...
I like the new jubilee bracelets on these two watches but agree with you it looks great on the Pepsi. However I would never buy a GMT on a Oyster strap because I absolutely hate the shiny centre band which marks like crazy. Whereas I would buy the Batman or the Pepsi on the jubilee.
Love the new Jubilee, rang my dealer on the day I found out....his reply " ah John, what watch would you like now, that we can't get?" Hilarious! Now waiting for 3 watches!!!
Haha. That’s brilliant.
Stunning on the jubilee!
Jubilee on the blnr Batman aka batgirl is the way to go. On oyster it looks too much like a sub and doesn’t pop - kinda boring to be. Omega.
Once you try it on jubilee you will understand. It is much more comfortable and doesn’t scratch like oyster pcl and way more stylish. Oysters for sub and Daytona, jubilee for GMT 100%.
Very nice video thank you. Personally, I think the Jubilee works appropriately with the GMT Master 2. May we remind ourselves that Rolex don't make sports watches, they make professional watches! Professional tool watches like the SD43, Subs, Deepsea's etc work better with the full on Oystersteel bracelet's. Bearing in mind that the Rolex 126710BLNR GMT is basically a Pilots watch, so a Jubilee bracelet really suits it, its gives the watch a nice presence on the wrist, ideal for a dressier pilots piece.
While I prefer the look of the oyster bracelet the pcl are a horrible scratch magnet. The jubilee will hold up to scratches better and the new Batman with the better movement has to be the one to go for.
I love the new one so much better! i'm waiting for mine as we speak..
If you can get the Batman at retail would you get it? I plan to hold on to it even with the bubble.
why would you pay 14-15k for an overhyped steel batman, when you can have a gold watch for that price? absolutely ridiculous
It really is. But people do.
Daniel Meier your a %100 right and it’s not only with the Batman. Think about the Daytona’s it’s even worse, people will pay 20k plus on the secondary market for a steel watch with a ceramic bezel, meanwhile you can get a solid gold day date 40 for mid 20s on the same secondary market. Miraculously you can even go into an AD and buy a day date 40 too, imagine that. With that being said, Rolex knows exactly what they are doing....touché
Why wants a “fake looking” (to me) gold watch, when you can get a nice looking steel, that will also hold up longer
@@Fetishmale no one cares if it looks fake to you. The prices for Rolex steel sports watches are ridiculous on the secondary market, there's no doubt about it.
@@danielmeier8321 That's why they want them. You answered your own question.
I couldn’t disagree more. The black and blue on the Batman looks way dressier than the red and blue Pepsi, which looks more sporty.
Therefore, the Jubilee on the Batman suits the colour scheme far more Pepsi, which looks better with the Oyster.
Obviously, neither of them are “dress” watches. But in this context, I’m sure you get my point..
(my opinion😂)
You're 100% spot on again Adrian, I love the jubilee bracelet but it doesn't work with the Batman. Even the Hulk wouldn't look good with the jubilee. Somehow it just works with the Pepsi and the Pepsi alone.
Great 👍🏻 vid as always Adrian! Nice analysis!
Cheers buddy,
Hisham.
Generally I prefer the jubilee but on the batman the oyster fits better indeed!
I’m pretty sure you can still get the 2022 Batman on both straps not just jubilee. I was offered a 2022 on oyster, said no & one month later I was offered it on jubilee which I prefer 👍🏼
Just brought the Batman on the jubilee bracelet, but I think it looks better on the oyster too. Enjoy watching your work!!
I bloody love it on the jubilee. Never much cared for the polished center links on the oyster
Hi Adrian, almost hitting the 41k subs, well done.
As always people will look for discontinued SS models with Rolex, the Batman is not an exception. This, in my opinion, is why the price of the Batman is getting dearer, not because people prefer the Oyster.
GMT were historically sold with the Jubilee and , as you know, Rolex keeps tradition going.
The Jub is much more comfortable than the Oyster, it catches the light differently and will hide scratches much better than the Oyster.
At any rate it will be impossible to get at retail price as usual.
Thanks for sharing. Regards.
I really like the jubilee bracelet!
So true. It just doesn't look 100% right with the Jubilee bracelet.
After Basel I put the 17 cheapest Batman on a watchlist. It took 8 days until 12 were sold. Prices between 13‘000 and 14‘500€
Adrian, I think I’m right in saying that due to a slight change in the alignment of the pins in the lugs, the jubilee and oyster bracelets are NOT interchangeable, ie you can’t put a jubilee on a “mark 1” Batman and vice versa with the oyster on a “mark 2”
Great channel... But I have to disagree. I really like the jubilee on the Batman. In fact, I like it so much I just ordered the new model from my local Rolex dealer (it helps that he's a friend) for $12K. But I won't get it until October.
I absolutely love this and have looked so many times on-line and no local AD will entertain me as I have not used them before! I have heard that Rolex have more available now and I have been trying to hunt one down, but nobody wants to even put me on a waiting list. I have a few Rolex, and other makes, so if they don't want my business, then there are other makes available!
Nice video, as always! But actually, I think the Batman is much classier and more dressy than the Pepsi and works much better on the jubilee... Though a simple oyster bracelet - if it came without any polished parts - would probably the best!
Hiya Adrian, any chance your NATOs will be coming out in 18mm? Some of my favourite watches are in 18mm and it would be great to wear them on the B&J Natos. Thanks!
Loving my GMT Black even more now that it's become unobtainium!
YES! the watch of 2019
@@VegasMilgauss Thanks Vegas. I only picked it up in January and already looking like a solid purchase. I've got my name down for a Batgirl but that could take decades!
Hypothetically what’s the least you would accept for your Batman? I’m considering selling mine. As the price goes up the more I feel like I need to baby it and the less I want to wear it. Should I free up the cash? Or just sit smug knowing I’ve got a hot watch that I love?
Ps I have a back sub date anyway
Is the new case not meant to be a bit slimmer? Was it not noticeably so?
I really like your breakdown of the information. Thank you!
Fun looking back at these vids, now knowing what we know.
Adrian I think you're spot on. The jubilee on the batman just looks off. I have a similar view about the Pepsi with a jubilee but to a lesser extent. I think the shade of blue they use is too sporty for such a refined bracelet. The red in the coke is a classy enough color to hold up to the bold look of the jubilee. Anyways, appreciate the hard work for this channel. Keep it up mate!
I really like your videos -keep it up
I love the Batman on jubilee! Love the Rolex Jubilee in the modern bigger case watches (GMTs and Datejust 41s). The look is clean and classy and can go anywhere.
I’m not one to speculate on price. If one is lucky to have one already, especially at retail, keep it and wear it and most of all, enjoy it. I agree Adrian, the jubilee bracelet is lacking for me.
Another good vid. Great channel 👍
Hey Adrian,
I was happy to see you at Baselworld. Although it's watch enthusiast heaven it does seem stressful if you're there for business. I enjoyed your coverage.
Best regards,
Sir Willie Stroker
Love the new Batman on jubilee.
Dude let me just start by saying I love your channel and your journey.
I’m only a humble vintage ex ii owner not a Batman gmt owner. But I love the new jubilee. Perhaps there’s a slight generational schism, I associate a jubilee with sports Rolex. I associate it with 60s 70s aviation sport models, whose mixture of submariner oyster case with gmt functionality took the case from ocean to air. The oyster is wonderful and sort of masculine while the jubilee is the same but slightly older...
Anyway it’s all just fun and different tastes.
Keep up the great work.
Batman on jubilee looks great, I don’t think the oyster Batman will be going for the massive premiums people are trying to charge right now in a year.
That's the logical thing... the older 116710BLNR should be dropping back near to it's original retail price with the newer 126710BLNR going way over list. However, the reverse is happening. The older Batman keeps going up in value. Does it make sense? Probably not but the unfulfilled demand is/was just too high and being a discontinued model, it will only get harder and harder to get. Same thing happened with the discontinued Kermit... sells for a lot more compared to the Hulk. Cheers!
karlo castro True, with the exception of it being truly discontinued. Sure the reference number is discontinued, but the blue and black GMT is still available and being made from Rolex with a better movement and different bracelet. The oyster Batman won’t go for as much as the jubilee eventually, these damn flippers are just doing what they do and using any excuse to try and screw people out of more money, even though the excuse for the premium should only be “supply and demand” vs it being discontinued.
@@justinh1258, it will be interesting to see how much these two "batman" references are selling 2 or 3 years from now. Surely both will be hard to get at retail (or at least close to it) for mere mortals. What I'm really looking forward with Rolex is an updated (and hopefully not just the new 3235) Sub line! It's way overdue imho. It's great interacting with a fellow watch fan. Cheers!
karlo castro Yeah, there will definitely be premiums but I have a feeling the oyster Batman is wayyy overhyped right now and a poor buy. There will be some people getting burned for sure, wait till next year for one is my opinion. The sub will get the new movement within the next few years, but I absolutely love the 3135 and it’s just such a reliable and proven movement.
Especially not if they introduce the coke next year.
Hey, I think the title is wrong, it should be BLNR not BLRO:)
carcomfreak 😂
He had BLRO on the brain!
Sorry if this a obvious or dumb question, could you put or buy a Oyster bracelet on the new Batman?
No, you can't because the hole was drilled in the new case at a different spot to fit the new bracelet.
Love the new Batman!
Jubilee for me. Not a fan of the pcl on the oyster. If the oyster didn’t have pcl, then it would be a tougher decision.
j thang feel the exact same
same..polished CL ...prefer jubilee, both beautiful though
You're absolutely right .
Big question, should i go to Sweden or UK to buy my Rolex?
Sorry but your opinion is based on you have the mk1 batman... Everyone wants the new batman... But no one has the money to get premium or have a pretty awesome contact on Rolex AD
Great video as always
Thank you for another excellent video Adrian :)
The new Batman is definitely very appealing, the old one is nice; but never wanted one. The new Batman with the jubilee bracelet, love it.
Would love to see an update video of your thoughts on this, thanks keep up a great channel!
I love both bracelets. But I think the jubilee shows class and courage.
Oyster on Batman all day, maybe Jubilee on Datejust but I still prefer the Oyster. Watch Rolex offer it next year so folks jump on the new movement with the Oyster. I’m looking to add another Rolex to my collection but want a proper dress watch first, looking at JLC ultra thin. Also looking at Oris 65 or Tudor BB58...any thoughts?
I agree with you 100% about the jubilee on the new Batman. I own the Batman on oyster and I love it. And I also switch it out for a Rubber B strap as well. Great videos keep it up
Do you still have your Batman? I read a comment on another vid of yours and it mentioned you flipping it. I didn’t see a video on it tho? Unless I missed something...
Hi Mike, yeah I sold the batman. I did do a video talking about the process. I can’t remember what it was called though. Might have just been a Q&A.
Bark and Jack thanks! I’ll be sure to look it up... also; always meant to ask, why “bark and jack”? I recently discovered your channel and love the content. Always curious to where the name comes from...
Mike C thanks for finding the channel. I started an instagram account about 7 years ago with a mate. My last name is Barker, his was Jackson. So we called it Barker and Jackson. It died off and I started using it and just called it Bark and Jack. Not a great story really. Haha.
Bark and Jack lol! I was going to guess it was the name of your dogs perhaps ... boy, was I off!
I think they also trimmed the case a bit too, tad bit smaller. Correct me if I’m wrong.