Some brave/suicidal soul could sneak into his writing room with a Gopro and provide the internet with a brief vicarious encounter with the Writing Hatchet.
"Honestly, fantasy existed before Lit Fic, and if you deny those roots, you're pruning yourself so close you can't help but wither and die." *mic drop*
You won't be desappointed. I encourage everyone I know to read The Name of the Wind and A Wise Man's Fear (Names may be different because I'm from Brazil).
His writing is sublime. Although I didn't like The Name of The Wind mainly for the reason that I expected something else and not a tuition manager with a perfect main hero. Great writing tho
"a legend among writers" Doors of Stone still has no release date, meanwhile he is recording himself playing videogames and eating pizza for his twitter followers. A legend? Let's not just throw that word around like it's nothing. Maybe Steven Erikson when it comes to writing, but it's been 7 years since book two, and The Slow Regard for Silent Things was a pure waste of time. SEVEN YEARS! To be a legend among writers one must write.
I have to agree with Ben for the most part. Rothfuss is an excellent writer (though some of his similes are a little clunky), and I really enjoy his style. But to call him a legend only diminishes the term. We can't fully judge him as a writer until we know how he finishes a story.
Not enough people realize that genre fiction does not suddenly lower the quality of a piece of writing. Good fantasy and science fiction deal with the same issues as literary fiction. Thank you Patrick Rothfuss!
At the University of Georgia, my MFA thesis was a science fiction novel. The only reason I wasn't allowed to use my fantasy novel was because I'd already written it and my adviser thought I should start a fresh project. Moral: UGA is cooler than UW.
Holy crap! The second I read your description of this video I was totally going to point out that A Midsummer Nights Dream would probably be considered fantasy and then you went and said it. I've never felt so close to you!
Oh Lord, I had a creative writing teacher at Portland State reject my work not because it was immature crap (which it was of course), but because it was immature fantasy crap. He told me "fantasy is the garbage bin of literature" and I should read The Catcher in the Rye to see what true literature was. I did, hated it (though I admit I read it with a crummy attitude). Almost 30 years later I'm still bitter about that.
Pat's got a wonderful perspective on life. Seriously, reading his books, his blogs, seeing the ways he interacts with his fans and his family, his charity work. He's very no-nonsense and that's rare these days.
Rothfuss puts so much time and energy into his writing. Out of the fantasy that I've read, it is the closest that comes to literary fiction. The meticulous choice of prose structure lifts the writing far above a simple story telling. I warm up for my video narrations by reading his work aloud.
There are a lot of literary classics that were shredded by the literati of their time. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein comes to mind. Ann Brontë's Agnes Grey was not only controversial but completely dismissed as "garbage". Today? A classic. Perhaps not as well known as her sisters' Charlotte and Emily's works, but still classics. Those are only two examples. You know what doesn't get remembered in history as a classic? The names of literary snobs.
Hell, academia is full of hypocritical snobbery. My graduate adviser found out I played WOW in my spare time and his comment was "I thought you were intelligent", to which I replied " I guess you were wrong". They were also VERY "snobby"(?) about my military service. It's a strange world academia...may be a good place to base a good fantasy story line. I know most of the PhD's I was exposed to have live in their own odd little world of tenure and self aggrandizement.
What did they say about your military service? I'm likely going to join the military after college but I'm thinking of eventually returning to academia after that.
The bottom line is this: Pat's books make me want to read more books. It's as simple as that. Any creative writing professor should celebrate and embrace that fact.
Everything that the critics lay on the fantasy genre the mystery/thriller genre, a heralded genre, does in spades if not worse then fantasy does. Derivatives of Tolkien? Arthur Conan Doyle has been copied infinitum and its never had a movement in the genre to subvert sherlock. Filled with cliches? Essentric detective with weirdo quirks stumbles on to a murder scene while a culprit chases to kill him, what book did I describe? Made for money? Ann Rule, John Macdonald, Elizabeth George all had made 20+ series with the same cast and same scenarios. Its pulpy wish fulfillment? Nior essentially comes from the pulps and who doesn't want to be mr. Awesome dude who drinks/smokes/ fucks broads? Yet no one would ever say the mystery/thriller genre is a inferior genre. If I were to compare Dunsany to Chandler, these would would have a heart attack and disagree that they're comparible at all. I don't disagree, Dunsay is a much better writer and shouldn't be compare to Chandler.
I would actually take what he says further, to say that fantasy fiction can be traced all the way back to oral tradition, back before the Brothers Grimm set "fairy tales" down on paper, when the woods were a dark and unknown place and full of wolves and cannibalistic witches; where the concept of "science" was not yet a thing and so we had to figure out a way to explain why the seasons changed or how the tiger got its stripes or why the bear has no tail; where "here there be dragons" was written at edges of the known map; and the oceans were full of sea serpents and mermaids. I would argue that fantasy stems from the very roots of culture, that it's the oldest form of fiction, that it contains our most basic fears, dreams, and desires and any professor of literature who fails to recognize that isn't worth the paper his degree is printed on.
Well played, senpai Rothfuss. I absolutely agree with your stance on this reoccurring topic. To have such an encumberment laid upon you by an instructor of "creative writing" is a peculiar lapse of abstraction on the instructors part. Creative writing, by its very nature, should be about more than simply developing an "introspective, in-depth character study of interesting, complex, and developed characters". Creative writing should push boundaries. It should test limits and broaden imaginations. It should be about the art of constructing rich paragraphs wherein each syllable has been meticulously considered and poured over. Dismissing Patricks work for her reading requirement because it's "genre fantasy" is ludicrous as well as extraordinary nearsighted. Why? Because everything your looking for is right there on the pages. The plot is layered, with equal parts devoted to furthering the narrative as well as telling the story of the inner characters who drive the narrative. Underpinning the characters and the plot itself are questions that relate to the human condition along with political and social themes as well which add tremendous merit to Patricks literary works. Our obsessive need to attach labels to everything is exhausting. Mr. Rothfuss, your work is extremely multifaceted. There is absolutely a tremendous amount of educational, enlightening, and entertaining value in your writing. You embody what it means to "write creatively". Regardless which genre a writer deems themselves or is currently writing in, there's a plethora of rich literature out there you've authored for us all to be inspired by and learn from.
I read a hundred pages of NOFTW and stopped. Very well written but one huge problem, for me, was the main character. Too bad, i least i still have the gentleman bastards series and game of thrones.
So.. ask these people who do not think fantasy counts.. what about Shakespeare's Work? How about Homer? Illiad, Odyssey? Personally Illiad and Odyssey especially IS fantasy (and apparently I am not the only one :p) I would love to see a teacher put down some of the most epic books because they are 'fantasy'.
That's too bad! I con't believe either of the Rons (Kuka or Wallace) would let that be the case. Keep arguing that it should count! (I got my PhD in comp-rhet there years ago, so I know some of the folks, but many are gone: it's still a great program!).
When I learned about your teaching at Stevens Point, I remembered spending time there and Wisconsin Falls, about fifteen years ago. I built the large satellite dish downtown on the roof the the telephone office. Thank you, I like it too. I thought that it would have been great to take a class from you. Many professors these days, especially at large universities, are overpaid tenured lumps. They act like Nazi's, and suffer no recourse for their ridiculous demands on students. My son is in engineering school, which is much more realistic. No, I'm not slamming fantasy. The focus is on teaching technology and not stroking the tenured ego. 50 years ago I was a Liberal Arts major. That was in the good old days when you could actually get a job with such an education.
+Ariella Jem I remember seeing you do this whole thing, too. xD I stayed until the very end, to be the last person present, in order to ask him the seven words to make a woman love you. Just as I said I'd do during the Q&A phase when I asked. I am happy to say I _was_ given seven words to use, even if they aren't _the_ seven words, and I am saving the words and story for a lady that has read the books, someday.
Patrick Rossfuss replying to the fact a student told him that a reading on his work would not count at UW-Milwaukee because he writes fantasy. Every interesting points on literary and the history of fantasy. #fantasy #rothfuss #fiction
I think he meant it as a piece of writing, a story that we have in these days. He also mentioned the Oddysey, which isn't a single book, and isn't quite prose. He's talking about how great stories, filled with meaning, pieces of literature that everybody respects, have elements of so-called "fantasy"
His argument is essentially like his books- it feels nice while it's happening and it sounds nice for the most part but if you examine it there is no depth. It's an amazing success to pull off but not because it's a good story.
I think snobbery in general is just inherently bad. A lot of professors seem to encompass this. To quote my awful art teacher the other day: "this isn't a drawing." Well shucks. I didn't know you were so important as to dictate what is and isn't art, lady. I find this situation to be similarly snobby. That whole "i am the teacher and therefore everything I say is law" type deal.
Just enjoy whatever you read, no reason to denigrate other genres or tastes. I think he puts it quite accurately there: Lots of bad shit in both sides, which they shouldnt really be sides anyway. I enjoy mostly literaty fiction and I hate it when, if something its complex or weird, then its called pretentious, but I also hate it when something gets branded by a genre and its immediately turned down as lesser literature. Just enjoy, some books are driven by ideas, some are driven by story, some by characters, thats it. I blame teachers and academics for this dumb feud. Jose Saramago has written genres too, like Blindness, which is like a post apocalyptic novel, but its never branded like that and its a beautiful novel. Same with Mario Vargas Llosa writes mostly historical fiction, some of it based on actual events, so I guess he should be branded as a history novelist. And so on. I believe great stories are driven by characters and ideas, sometimes the plot only helps to drive the characters and story around. I think we need to be more open minded when it comes to style. Would you call Virginia Woolf pretentious? I doubt it, and she wasn't exactly the most accedible of writers. So, just relax and enjoy.
I love her exclamation at the end. "AWESOME." I could not agree more. Anyone that has read the poetic prose in Kingkiller and denies its place as great literature is insane.
Tbh, the idea of 'a man drinking tea, staring out the window, and thinking of his mother' is much more original and open for exploration than most fantasy books published nowadays.
I agreed with everything except when he said the bible and the oddydey are straight up fantasy. For sure fantasy's roots are there, but they arent fantasy literature, stemming from their complex relation between fiction and reality and the pretense that history is somehow being transmited through them.
@@nichoudha There's no evidence Raskolnikov existed either. Not a single example he gave of fantasy is correct. The whole argument is a bait and switch fallacy. Fantasy as in the genre fiction didn't even exist before, at the very earliest, the 19th century gothic novel.
I don't even like fantasy. But you can't deny a good book is good just because it's fantasy or whatever other genre. I also don't like poetry, but good poetry is like an arrow straight to the heart. Or to the guts. You just can't go on pretending it didn't happen. I also don't like best sellers. So the fact I've liked Rothfuss's first book, in my opinion, means that it transcends the common places of the genre and moves right on to the "it's just a fucking good book" section. It was the same with the first R. A. Salvatore trilogy: I don't buy into all that D&D bullshit (I don't even play rol or whatever this thing with dice is called), but the books were just too fucking good. And of course Tolkien. I bet that professor would gladly chop his two hands off and poke one of his eyes out of its socket with a spoon just to be half as good as Tolkien was. Just half of the skills and imagination. And recognition of course. In the end, that's all writing is about: recognition, and a little bit of transcendence. Maybe a few thousand years for a handful of writers, from the tenths of billions of humans that have lived until today, from which about 6.5% are still alive, many of them in direct competition with you, whatever your game is.
Fantasy fans doesn't give a shit about academic snobbery. Fantasy fans doesn't want to read about the reality of being lonely or about the reality about grow old and bitter. Fantasy fans wants to escape reality for twenty minutes everyday and read adventures full of swords, dragons and heros.
I kind of want to see Rothfuss fight someone to the death.
Let's face it. He is a little histrionic in this video.
He said he would right after the video...
The date of the fight still hasn't been released, though.
Some brave/suicidal soul could sneak into his writing room with a Gopro and provide the internet with a brief vicarious encounter with the Writing Hatchet.
@@rolanddeschain6089 misuse of this term. I don’t think you know what histrionic means
@@mattnlogan101 Yes, but it does sound so coolly dismissive, doesn't it?🙄 But Rothfuss has it right.
And also we should not film vertically.
I think the vertical filming was necessary to correctly present his epic beard.
Kirby Smith 3 years ago someone did not read the description...
I love the "awesome" the person recording whispers at the end.
"Honestly, fantasy existed before Lit Fic, and if you deny those roots, you're pruning yourself so close you can't help but wither and die."
*mic drop*
And suddenly the stack of his books goes from somewhere near the bottom of my "to read" list to "read next".
You won't be desappointed. I encourage everyone I know to read The Name of the Wind and A Wise Man's Fear (Names may be different because I'm from Brazil).
My favourite books of all time. You won't be disappointed.
***** Names are right, Brazilian here confirming it
His writing is sublime. Although I didn't like The Name of The Wind mainly for the reason that I expected something else and not a tuition manager with a perfect main hero. Great writing tho
Amazing author! Definitely one of my favorite book series of all time. Enjoy!
"Literary Fiction is a Genre, and I will fight to the death anyone who denies this very self-evident truth."
Epic.
Patrick Rothfuss is a legend among writers and men. So glad this video was made. Thank you to the filmer and to Patrick for his awesome thoughts!
Dude, I'm subscribed to you. And the fact that you're a fan of Rothfuss has made me love you even more.
"a legend among writers"
Doors of Stone still has no release date, meanwhile he is recording himself playing videogames and eating pizza for his twitter followers.
A legend? Let's not just throw that word around like it's nothing. Maybe Steven Erikson when it comes to writing, but it's been 7 years since book two, and The Slow Regard for Silent Things was a pure waste of time. SEVEN YEARS! To be a legend among writers one must write.
I have to agree with Ben for the most part. Rothfuss is an excellent writer (though some of his similes are a little clunky), and I really enjoy his style. But to call him a legend only diminishes the term. We can't fully judge him as a writer until we know how he finishes a story.
Not enough people realize that genre fiction does not suddenly lower the quality of a piece of writing. Good fantasy and science fiction deal with the same issues as literary fiction. Thank you Patrick Rothfuss!
At the University of Georgia, my MFA thesis was a science fiction novel. The only reason I wasn't allowed to use my fantasy novel was because I'd already written it and my adviser thought I should start a fresh project. Moral: UGA is cooler than UW.
Holy crap! The second I read your description of this video I was totally going to point out that A Midsummer Nights Dream would probably be considered fantasy and then you went and said it. I've never felt so close to you!
Pat Rothfuss is the man.
This makes me unbelievably happy. Both to hear from Rothfuss, and that it brought some academic snobbery to task.
Oh Lord, I had a creative writing teacher at Portland State reject my work not because it was immature crap (which it was of course), but because it was immature fantasy crap. He told me "fantasy is the garbage bin of literature" and I should read The Catcher in the Rye to see what true literature was. I did, hated it (though I admit I read it with a crummy attitude). Almost 30 years later I'm still bitter about that.
Literature snobs make me want to avoid literature. The effect is the same as reading in English class, that is they suck all the fun out if reading.
Pat's got a wonderful perspective on life. Seriously, reading his books, his blogs, seeing the ways he interacts with his fans and his family, his charity work. He's very no-nonsense and that's rare these days.
Rothfuss puts so much time and energy into his writing. Out of the fantasy that I've read, it is the closest that comes to literary fiction. The meticulous choice of prose structure lifts the writing far above a simple story telling.
I warm up for my video narrations by reading his work aloud.
Nailed it.
"everything in the world is shit" -patrick rothfuss
Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.
True words, Mr. Rothfuss, true words.
There are a lot of literary classics that were shredded by the literati of their time. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein comes to mind. Ann Brontë's Agnes Grey was not only controversial but completely dismissed as "garbage". Today? A classic. Perhaps not as well known as her sisters' Charlotte and Emily's works, but still classics. Those are only two examples.
You know what doesn't get remembered in history as a classic? The names of literary snobs.
Hell, academia is full of hypocritical snobbery. My graduate adviser found out I played WOW in my spare time and his comment was "I thought you were intelligent", to which I replied " I guess you were wrong". They were also VERY "snobby"(?) about my military service. It's a strange world academia...may be a good place to base a good fantasy story line. I know most of the PhD's I was exposed to have live in their own odd little world of tenure and self aggrandizement.
What did they say about your military service? I'm likely going to join the military after college but I'm thinking of eventually returning to academia after that.
Fuck that guy, i had a pally and a rogue back in the day lol. Multilingual and not a bigot, = intelligent
Well said. I've noticed this phenomenon in academia as well.
So what did the professor say??????
Very very well said, Pat! What a SNOB that professor is! Your writing is extremely well-written and I enjoy it immensely!
The bottom line is this: Pat's books make me want to read more books. It's as simple as that. Any creative writing professor should celebrate and embrace that fact.
The closing "Awesome" whispered at the end was excellent.
the "Awweeesome" at the end :-)
Absolutely beautiful! Well said, Mr Rothfuss!
Everything that the critics lay on the fantasy genre the mystery/thriller genre, a heralded genre, does in spades if not worse then fantasy does.
Derivatives of Tolkien? Arthur Conan Doyle has been copied infinitum and its never had a movement in the genre to subvert sherlock.
Filled with cliches? Essentric detective with weirdo quirks stumbles on to a murder scene while a culprit chases to kill him, what book did I describe?
Made for money? Ann Rule, John Macdonald, Elizabeth George all had made 20+ series with the same cast and same scenarios.
Its pulpy wish fulfillment? Nior essentially comes from the pulps and who doesn't want to be mr. Awesome dude who drinks/smokes/ fucks broads?
Yet no one would ever say the mystery/thriller genre is a inferior genre. If I were to compare Dunsany to Chandler, these would would have a heart attack and disagree that they're comparible at all. I don't disagree, Dunsay is a much better writer and shouldn't be compare to Chandler.
I would actually take what he says further, to say that fantasy fiction can be traced all the way back to oral tradition, back before the Brothers Grimm set "fairy tales" down on paper, when the woods were a dark and unknown place and full of wolves and cannibalistic witches; where the concept of "science" was not yet a thing and so we had to figure out a way to explain why the seasons changed or how the tiger got its stripes or why the bear has no tail; where "here there be dragons" was written at edges of the known map; and the oceans were full of sea serpents and mermaids. I would argue that fantasy stems from the very roots of culture, that it's the oldest form of fiction, that it contains our most basic fears, dreams, and desires and any professor of literature who fails to recognize that isn't worth the paper his degree is printed on.
Well played, senpai Rothfuss. I absolutely agree with your stance on this reoccurring topic. To have such an encumberment laid upon you by an instructor of "creative writing" is a peculiar lapse of abstraction on the instructors part. Creative writing, by its very nature, should be about more than simply developing an "introspective, in-depth character study of interesting, complex, and developed characters". Creative writing should push boundaries. It should test limits and broaden imaginations.
It should be about the art of constructing rich paragraphs wherein each syllable has been meticulously considered and poured over. Dismissing Patricks work for her reading requirement because it's "genre fantasy" is ludicrous as well as extraordinary nearsighted. Why? Because everything your looking for is right there on the pages. The plot is layered, with equal parts devoted to furthering the narrative as well as telling the story of the inner characters who drive the narrative. Underpinning the characters and the plot itself are questions that relate to the human condition along with political and social themes as well which add tremendous merit to Patricks literary works.
Our obsessive need to attach labels to everything is exhausting. Mr. Rothfuss, your work is extremely multifaceted. There is absolutely a tremendous amount of educational, enlightening, and entertaining value in your writing. You embody what it means to "write creatively". Regardless which genre a writer deems themselves or is currently writing in, there's a plethora of rich literature out there you've authored for us all to be inspired by and learn from.
Seems like a very cool guy. I look forward to starting The Wise Man's Fear soon!
I read a hundred pages of NOFTW and stopped. Very well written but one huge problem, for me, was the main character. Too bad, i least i still have the gentleman bastards series and game of thrones.
This is just one of the reasons I love Patrick Rothfuss. Please tell me the teacher got to see this.
"85% of everything in the world is shit." Love that comment. I'd say about 100% of what Pat says here is spot-on! Thank you.
So.. ask these people who do not think fantasy counts.. what about Shakespeare's Work? How about Homer? Illiad, Odyssey? Personally Illiad and Odyssey especially IS fantasy (and apparently I am not the only one :p) I would love to see a teacher put down some of the most epic books because they are 'fantasy'.
Agreed!!
Mr. Rothfuss' forearm game is strong.
That's too bad! I con't believe either of the Rons (Kuka or Wallace) would let that be the case. Keep arguing that it should count! (I got my PhD in comp-rhet there years ago, so I know some of the folks, but many are gone: it's still a great program!).
When I learned about your teaching at Stevens Point, I remembered spending time there and Wisconsin Falls, about fifteen years ago. I built the large satellite dish downtown on the roof the the telephone office. Thank you, I like it too. I thought that it would have been great to take a class from you. Many professors these days, especially at large universities, are overpaid tenured lumps. They act like Nazi's, and suffer no recourse for their ridiculous demands on students. My son is in engineering school, which is much more realistic. No, I'm not slamming fantasy. The focus is on teaching technology and not stroking the tenured ego. 50 years ago I was a Liberal Arts major. That was in the good old days when you could actually get a job with such an education.
Well put!!! "The picure of dorien grey" and all distopian novels of orwell and hexcly fit the bill as well!
Patrick Rothfuss for the win! To absolutely nobody's surprise.
I LOVE YOU, PATRICK.
Mr. Rothfuss takes the Professor to school. Nice.
I can actually hear me and my two friends in the background. God we're loud. And we laughed a lot.
Haha, that's awesome!
+Ariella Jem I remember seeing you do this whole thing, too. xD I stayed until the very end, to be the last person present, in order to ask him the seven words to make a woman love you. Just as I said I'd do during the Q&A phase when I asked. I am happy to say I _was_ given seven words to use, even if they aren't _the_ seven words, and I am saving the words and story for a lady that has read the books, someday.
@@CalamitousProphet
Could you maybe possibly give us the words, or even 3.5 of them? Please?
well said my friend,,bravo!
you are awesome. Spain loves you!
I love this man. Hear, hear!
OK, I want follow up on this! Did the teacher eventually see this video? What was the reaction? Did Pat's reading still not count?
He’s become the very thing he swore to destroy.
That seems unlikely.
Patrick Rossfuss replying to the fact a student told him that a reading on his work would not count at UW-Milwaukee because he writes fantasy. Every interesting points on literary and the history of fantasy.
#fantasy #rothfuss #fiction
He's a beast!!! Best author out there!!! (From any genre)
For once I agree with Patrick Rothfuss. I think I need a shower
I really hope you showed this to your teacher. I can only imagine his expression. Lol
His prose is strong and fast. Warm. Good.
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Did he just say that the bible is fiction?!! Woosh...all this time.
I think he meant it as a piece of writing, a story that we have in these days. He also mentioned the Oddysey, which isn't a single book, and isn't quite prose. He's talking about how great stories, filled with meaning, pieces of literature that everybody respects, have elements of so-called "fantasy"
He basically called it a fantasy novel! Haha
He called it what it is, Im sort of confused as to what the talk here is all about, potentially the best fantasy novel
His argument is essentially like his books- it feels nice while it's happening and it sounds nice for the most part but if you examine it there is no depth. It's an amazing success to pull off but not because it's a good story.
Please post the teachers contact information. We would love to have a conversation with them.
"Everything in the world is shit" man he's good
I would love to see the response from the writing teacher
I knew I really liked this guy!
Love this dude.
Here here!! Good show ol' Chum!!
I think snobbery in general is just inherently bad. A lot of professors seem to encompass this. To quote my awful art teacher the other day: "this isn't a drawing." Well shucks. I didn't know you were so important as to dictate what is and isn't art, lady. I find this situation to be similarly snobby. That whole "i am the teacher and therefore everything I say is law" type deal.
Any chance at a giving the professor a shot for rebuttal?
Legendary words.
"Everything in the world is shit."
-- Patrick Rothfuss
Did the uni alter their thinking after you elicited this response?
Nope. Didn't stop me from writing genre through.
That was so damn brilliant.
at around 0:50 he sounded like George Washington or one of the founding fathers or something.
Brilliant AND succinct.
can you load a transcript in description or set up captions? the auto captions are terrible and im a huge fan of patrick rothfuss!!!
uncreative fantasy? i call that oxymoron!
or around 1:00 actually, I think.
Just enjoy whatever you read, no reason to denigrate other genres or tastes. I think he puts it quite accurately there: Lots of bad shit in both sides, which they shouldnt really be sides anyway. I enjoy mostly literaty fiction and I hate it when, if something its complex or weird, then its called pretentious, but I also hate it when something gets branded by a genre and its immediately turned down as lesser literature. Just enjoy, some books are driven by ideas, some are driven by story, some by characters, thats it. I blame teachers and academics for this dumb feud. Jose Saramago has written genres too, like Blindness, which is like a post apocalyptic novel, but its never branded like that and its a beautiful novel. Same with Mario Vargas Llosa writes mostly historical fiction, some of it based on actual events, so I guess he should be branded as a history novelist. And so on. I believe great stories are driven by characters and ideas, sometimes the plot only helps to drive the characters and story around. I think we need to be more open minded when it comes to style. Would you call Virginia Woolf pretentious? I doubt it, and she wasn't exactly the most accedible of writers. So, just relax and enjoy.
You sir are a star! :-)
Very well stated. P.S. love the beard.
Too right you are!
Legend
I love her exclamation at the end.
"AWESOME."
I could not agree more. Anyone that has read the poetic prose in Kingkiller and denies its place as great literature is insane.
Yes. Yes. Yes!
This is great!!!
Tbh, the idea of 'a man drinking tea, staring out the window, and thinking of his mother' is much more original and open for exploration than most fantasy books published nowadays.
Considering that topic was done to death in the eighties by hundreds of stories published in the New Yorker, I find that unlikely.
what did the CW program guy had to say about this?
Ohhhh what did the professor said about this?
He's right
yuuuup. his stuff is great.
I agreed with everything except when he said the bible and the oddydey are straight up fantasy. For sure fantasy's roots are there, but they arent fantasy literature, stemming from their complex relation between fiction and reality and the pretense that history is somehow being transmited through them.
There is no evidence Moses existed nor is there evidence that Israelites were ever slaves in Egypt.
@@nichoudha not saying there is, i still donr consider it fantasy. Its a different type of literature and it wasnt written ad fantasy
@@nichoudha There's no evidence Raskolnikov existed either. Not a single example he gave of fantasy is correct. The whole argument is a bait and switch fallacy. Fantasy as in the genre fiction didn't even exist before, at the very earliest, the 19th century gothic novel.
He looks like a young Hagrid
obrigado artista
I don't even like fantasy. But you can't deny a good book is good just because it's fantasy or whatever other genre. I also don't like poetry, but good poetry is like an arrow straight to the heart. Or to the guts. You just can't go on pretending it didn't happen. I also don't like best sellers. So the fact I've liked Rothfuss's first book, in my opinion, means that it transcends the common places of the genre and moves right on to the "it's just a fucking good book" section. It was the same with the first R. A. Salvatore trilogy: I don't buy into all that D&D bullshit (I don't even play rol or whatever this thing with dice is called), but the books were just too fucking good. And of course Tolkien. I bet that professor would gladly chop his two hands off and poke one of his eyes out of its socket with a spoon just to be half as good as Tolkien was. Just half of the skills and imagination. And recognition of course. In the end, that's all writing is about: recognition, and a little bit of transcendence. Maybe a few thousand years for a handful of writers, from the tenths of billions of humans that have lived until today, from which about 6.5% are still alive, many of them in direct competition with you, whatever your game is.
Amen.
Preach!
Did you ever show this to your professor? What did they say?
Yeah, this video is really old. I showed the department. Nothing happened. 🤣
@@_ariudite_ That’s a shame. Hopefully the genre will begin to become more respected in the coming years.
@@_ariudite_ thank you for your efforts!
love me some popcorn fantasy.
DAMN!
NICE
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Fantasy fans doesn't give a shit about academic snobbery. Fantasy fans doesn't want to read about the reality of being lonely or about the reality about grow old and bitter. Fantasy fans wants to escape reality for twenty minutes everyday and read adventures full of swords, dragons and heros.
How boring.
Blazing stuff.
It's shit when the author cant finish a series .
Generally speaking, all generalisation is foul mouthed nonsense
You're so right. Also, I can't believe people still browse in here every now and again. 😅
Fairly said, haha.
idk anything about this buut pat rothfuss eviscerated whoever that there feller be __,.,_.J._,.,_ :O
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8 years later, this hasn’t aged well. He won’t write a third book and is scamming his fans.