Why did Rhaenys Return? House of the Dragon 2 Episode 4 REVEALED!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • Why did Rhaenys return to face Aemond? We finally saw the long-awaited first battle with dragons, where Meleys, Sunfiye, and Vhagar faced each other along with their riders. The dance has already begun, and in this battle, we saw how Rhaenys lost her life along with her dragon, Egg-on is badly wounded as well as Sunfire, while Aemond comes out of this first confrontation unscathed. But why did Rhaenys come back to face Aemond? What would you think if I told you that Rhaenys came back to avoid losing the opportunity to avenge the death of her grandson Lucerys?
    In this video, we'll talk about the real reason Rhaenys returned to face Vhagar.

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  • @stuartstuart866
    @stuartstuart866 22 дня назад +458

    Probably my favorite character, such dignity, wisdom, self control, bravery. The actress who played her was really good, she really captured the character

    • @Auguimusic
      @Auguimusic 22 дня назад +6

      Wisdom? Rip to those innocents she killed on aegon coronation.

    • @moonchildwithlove
      @moonchildwithlove 22 дня назад

      😂 she brought dragon to the war , she cheated n paid price 😂

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +11

      Rhaenys is totally legit. She has courage and honor, like a true warrior Princess. She will do what needs to be done to protect her family.

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +6

      @@Auguimusic Yea she shoulda totally left her dragon and been taken hostage and been used to weaken House Black right? JFC the stupid logic of people.

    • @Auguimusic
      @Auguimusic 22 дня назад +1

      @@zoe1882 read the books, you will understand better. But, still doesn’t matter. Murder is murder no matter what excuses you put in front of it. She was the only dragon rider on a dragon. No one would have stood on her way if she took the exit door made for dragons.

  • @susanparrish8298
    @susanparrish8298 22 дня назад +226

    She was a woman who kept her word. Died with courage indignity.

    • @pendrodor
      @pendrodor 22 дня назад

      fuck courage and dignity , she is dead now courage and dignity is forgotten with time

    • @TheRoook
      @TheRoook 22 дня назад +7

      died like a fool tho

    • @kits5076
      @kits5076 21 день назад +9

      ​@@TheRoook and yet contributed in severely wounding the false king and almost killing it's dragon

    • @calpal6249
      @calpal6249 21 день назад +7

      @@TheRoook Tell that to Aegon. 😂

    • @wadewilson8011
      @wadewilson8011 21 день назад

      *Dignity

  • @kev1368
    @kev1368 22 дня назад +241

    Vhagar and Meleys are more closely matched than people realized. Vhagar is bigger, but also older and slower. Rhaenys took a chance at ending the war, simple as that

    • @Blue_SeaSmoke
      @Blue_SeaSmoke 22 дня назад +28

      wrong. not closely matched at all.....Meleys only had speed on her side and more battle experience than the other dragons on team black. Vhagar is only slower when getting started but once she gets in gear she is fast too and it shows by how quickly she caught Meleys by he neck.

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +10

      @@Blue_SeaSmoke yeah, Vhagar is bigger but he is old and been through some battles. he is not going to survive the rest of the dance. it's going to take more dragons to take him down, yes, but he will not survive.

    • @SpaceShipLegit
      @SpaceShipLegit 22 дня назад +24

      ​@@dottiemathews6853 vhagar a she..

    • @Hnke90
      @Hnke90 22 дня назад +12

      ​@@dottiemathews6853 Vhagar is a female dragon

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +13

      I think she really just wanted to protect her 2 surviving granddaughters and did it for them. If the war went on, her granddaughters were at risk of dying in the war.

  • @linalove5915
    @linalove5915 22 дня назад +282

    I wished she got away. She was a strong decent character that will be missed.

    • @addacusfinch1510
      @addacusfinch1510 22 дня назад +7

      I agree

    • @mohammadimran6975
      @mohammadimran6975 22 дня назад +2

      I also have same thought but what to do it’s already mentioned in the book..

    • @fx1883.
      @fx1883. 22 дня назад +2

      Everyones gunna die

    • @moonchildwithlove
      @moonchildwithlove 22 дня назад

      She cheated brought dragon to the war n paid price 😂

    • @eduardomaldonado1647
      @eduardomaldonado1647 22 дня назад +2

      @@mohammadimran6975 The series won't follow the books exactly.

  • @user-cb3cj4kz1l
    @user-cb3cj4kz1l 22 дня назад +95

    I don't think your analysis of why Rhaenys chose not to retreat is accurate.
    Rhaenys volunteered to take on the mission of supporting her allies...Her allies are still fighting on land, and if she were to retreat first, it would be extremely shameful. Rhaenys is the last hope for the allies fighting on this battlefield. Rhaenys knows that only her strength can counter Vhagar. Her sense of honor prevents her from abandoning her allies, who are still fighting and be the one whom flee first.. Also She cannot fail the queen to whom she is loyal. Thus, Rhaenys chose to stay and continue fighting with her allies until the very last moment. Came to support her allies and then abandoning them to die would be dishonorable at this moment.

    • @sachinhj9910
      @sachinhj9910 21 день назад +2

      But very much understandable. One cannot fight two dragons at once

    • @sarge-T.O.
      @sarge-T.O. 21 день назад

      Fair take. Supports the drama.

    • @jacobbeldon
      @jacobbeldon 21 день назад +2

      I think she martyrdom'd herself for 1. Protect the daughter and 2. Set the tone

    • @jaminavestajugo3456
      @jaminavestajugo3456 21 день назад +1

      I think both you and the explanation in the video have good points. It's possible for all of these to have factored into Rhaenys' decision.

    • @LordIceify
      @LordIceify 20 дней назад

      But she isn't the last hope, vermithor and silverwing still exist, and after balerion, vermithor is stronger than any other dragon or on equal footing too the cannibal and vheagar in their primes, but here is the kicker, the cannibal and verimithor are in their primes in dance of the dragon, vheagar isn't

  • @MrTorreyL
    @MrTorreyL 22 дня назад +113

    Although she lost her life, she still managed to wound the dragon. The dragon is now vulnerable during the next battle. That was her sacrifice for the Queen

    • @kylemma33
      @kylemma33 22 дня назад +6

      Vhagar wasn't injured, meleys claws couldn't cut deep enough to do any real damage, it was just a superficial scratch.

    • @Jwingmann
      @Jwingmann 22 дня назад +23

      @@kylemma33 Its definitely a battle wound. Those cuts from Meleys claws wont heal before Vhagar is forced to fight again. And this time she will have 3 mature dragons to fight.

    • @MrTorreyL
      @MrTorreyL 22 дня назад +8

      @@kylemma33 keep thinking that

    • @HamBone86
      @HamBone86 22 дня назад +9

      Yes, and the catastrophic damage that happened to Aegon and Sunfyre so it wasn’t a total lost cause.

    • @s8theninjawarrior916
      @s8theninjawarrior916 22 дня назад +4

      ​@@JwingmannVhagar's next dragon she faces will be her last opponent, but that wound will have healed by then. There's a long way to go until the mext battle

  • @rodneyc8126
    @rodneyc8126 22 дня назад +89

    Princess Rhaenys will be missed. I wish she would've flown away being no match for Vhagar alone.
    Team black the one true queen.

    • @abdielanelgonzalezsantana9638
      @abdielanelgonzalezsantana9638 21 день назад

      In the book says that Rhaenys and Meleys were matched enough to kill Vhagar

    • @rodneyc8126
      @rodneyc8126 20 дней назад +1

      @@abdielanelgonzalezsantana9638 That's the book though. This is the show version. Vhagar is so much bigger on the show. She was able to bite Meleys's neck in half.

    • @sk52778
      @sk52778 17 дней назад

      @@abdielanelgonzalezsantana9638 Yes. Vhagar sneaked up on them. It wasn't a fair fight. But we all know by now that the Greens do not fight fair.

  • @paulyang748
    @paulyang748 22 дня назад +190

    If she had beaten Aemon & Vhagar, the war is over.

    • @Renata38695
      @Renata38695 22 дня назад +13

      And what would you watch next week?😂

    • @fttemitayo7024
      @fttemitayo7024 22 дня назад

      😂😂😂​@@Renata38695

    • @JustinDanielsStar
      @JustinDanielsStar 22 дня назад +2

      Not really. Even after they got killed, the war persisted until Rhaenyra’s youngest ascended the throne.

    • @Jsneebs42
      @Jsneebs42 22 дня назад +12

      @@JustinDanielsStar that's later though. Team black still has a bunch of dragons currently and if Vhagar is taken off the field team Green loses.

    • @bjjace1
      @bjjace1 22 дня назад +3

      @@Jsneebs42none that could legitimately face off against Caraxes, Meleys, Syrax. Right?

  • @tombanks8012
    @tombanks8012 22 дня назад +88

    The old saying "Don't drink and drive"
    King Aegon like hold my wine cup as I mount his mighty dragon...

    • @731Reg
      @731Reg 22 дня назад +2

      He got lit for sure 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂

    • @thescarletgraywitch8052
      @thescarletgraywitch8052 22 дня назад +1

      For real 😂😂 And they set it up as suspicious considering Rhaenys flew away from Vhagar's fire unharmed and Aegon was a roasted marshmallow.

    • @judyb.6810
      @judyb.6810 21 день назад

      I thought the same thing...lol

    • @elainenagano2735
      @elainenagano2735 21 день назад

      Hahahahaha yes true

    • @elainenagano2735
      @elainenagano2735 21 день назад

      About the Don’t d

  • @Doglady58
    @Doglady58 22 дня назад +18

    She was the best part of the show, she will be so missed.😢

    • @FeezFBaby
      @FeezFBaby 21 день назад +1

      Yeah I liked her a lot. She was tied for 2nd with Rhaenyra for me & Daemon is my #1💯💯💯 R.I.P. to the queen that never was Rhaenys & to the most beautiful dragon on the show Meleys 🙏🙏🙏

    • @sk52778
      @sk52778 17 дней назад +1

      'The Queen who never was' was always a true Queen. RIP

  • @Jsneebs42
    @Jsneebs42 22 дня назад +57

    She returned hoping to inflict enough damage to Vhagar to take them out of the war. She knew she would die but it didn't matter. Meleys fought like a beast and may have had a chance to at least wound Vhagar had Aemond not gotten the jump from behind the castle. I honestly think getting Vhagar off the field is the only thing that matters at this point.

    • @Jwingmann
      @Jwingmann 22 дня назад +7

      This. This is correct. Not sure why people dont see that. It was written, shot and portrayed that way ahah. Rhaenys's face says it all. She had a chance to flee, and instead went back to do some damage. She knew she would die

    • @WarDrum76
      @WarDrum76 22 дня назад +5

      @@Jsneebs42 Meleys fought pretty good being undersized, if the Blood Wyrm was there Vhagar would’ve been finished

    • @Jsneebs42
      @Jsneebs42 22 дня назад +5

      @@WarDrum76 crazy thing is that Meleys isn't even that small. Vhagar is just that big 😂

    • @abelincoln.2064
      @abelincoln.2064 22 дня назад

      Nope. She made a mistake.
      Remember she skillfully maneuvered to get close to hurt Vhagar ..... when she could clearly see where the dragon is. Burt she had lost sight of the dragon after the first clash .... when she turned around .... to finish off the wounded old dragon assumed to be fleeing.

    • @BWM135
      @BWM135 22 дня назад +5

      ​​Pretty sure Melys is larger than or similar in size to Caraxes. Both a bit larger than Sunfire. Maybe most important, both The Queen and The Wyrm are bound tight to their riders and very much at home in battle (With men, arrows, scorpion bolts anyway).
      RIP Red Queen & The Queen Who Never Was...

  • @horridfuture3835
    @horridfuture3835 22 дня назад +35

    I think she knew she would die but sunfyre was down and she probably figured if she did enough damage do vhagar the war was basically over and green would likely have to surrender if vhagar can’t fight. She made a hero’s sacrifice in an effort to shorten the conflict and prevent more bloodshed.

  • @barbaraberrios9668
    @barbaraberrios9668 22 дня назад +59

    I wish somebody would have gone with her as a back up💔😢I’m going to miss her🖤❤️💯

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +7

      She might have had a better chance has there not been 2, which no one, not even Cole predicted or planned. They might have been able to kill Vhagar when Daemon suggested teaming up but when he suggested it, she actually did not want to fight a war, she wanted to find a way to peace which is what she was suggesting to Rhanera. She is not blood thirsty and nor does she want a war of the dragons. But after Rhanera returned and told her what happened Rhaenys realized there's no way to peace and she has to fight this war.

    • @elainenagano2735
      @elainenagano2735 21 день назад

      @@barbaraberrios9668 Me too!

  • @gm8498
    @gm8498 22 дня назад +23

    Her husband cheated on her. She lost her son and daughter, and Alyn will be made heir to driftmark.. she never wanted that humiliation

    • @ramzdalastpharoah
      @ramzdalastpharoah 19 дней назад +1

      I don’t think that had anything to do with it. She actually told Corliss he deserve to be lifted up, not hidden away.

  • @CaptShriver
    @CaptShriver 22 дня назад +78

    Team black all the way. It's a shame that rainey's is dead. I really like the actress who played her. She did fantastic a very professional artist. Rip rainey's the queen that never was

    • @epluribusunum1460
      @epluribusunum1460 18 дней назад

      The queen WHO never was, not the Queen THAT never was. -Stannis Baratheon.

  • @xdraconicgaming5204
    @xdraconicgaming5204 22 дня назад +10

    RIP Rhaenys. The best quality human in the series. Both queens went down fighting for the right cause.

  • @joeygay7115
    @joeygay7115 22 дня назад +23

    She was one of my favorite characters. It was a gamble the Greens would've been pretty much done for if she killed Aemond and his dragon. The Blacks really don't have an ary at that point, not like the Greens. Rhaenys went out like a true boss. I will be glad to see Aemond burn with his dragon

  • @sharonkaysnowton
    @sharonkaysnowton 22 дня назад +8

    Rhaenys was a woman of her word, and wanted to end this war. She knew she could harm and possibly kill the King. She knew she could possibly die. But, she was williing to take that chance. As the Klingons say, "Today is a good day to die". Sorry- wrong show. RIP Rhaenys. You will be missed by all.

  • @peterscarfe9933
    @peterscarfe9933 22 дня назад +30

    My opinion she would have been the best queen imagine if she was married to vissarys

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +4

      Dude just no...Viserys doesn't deserve her. He's pretty stupid if you haven't noticed.

  • @isaacpierrelouis8167
    @isaacpierrelouis8167 22 дня назад +16

    I found myself yelling at my tv telling her to go after she got away from vhagar. But she didn't listen to me and bravely turned back and now she is dead. I'm upset cuz she was literally my favorite character.

    • @odinmatanguihan5086
      @odinmatanguihan5086 22 дня назад +4

      I yelled at her to go back and deal with vhagar. She listened to me, sorry.

    • @MydasNeomagie
      @MydasNeomagie 17 дней назад

      @@odinmatanguihan5086 One of you was obviously louder.

  • @Deguscator
    @Deguscator 22 дня назад +12

    If she agreed whit Deamon and killed Vhagar in the first episode the war would be over ... Rip
    Queen Who Never Was

  • @richj6192
    @richj6192 22 дня назад +8

    Rhaenys was a more experienced dragon rider. While Aemond and Aegon attacked with fire, she approached from below letting Meleys claw Sunfire and Vhagar. If she didn't lose sight of Vhagar, it may have ended differently.

  • @Ruairidh-iu8rn
    @Ruairidh-iu8rn 22 дня назад +7

    Rhaenys knew she was going to die as soon as she saw Vhagar coming into the battle. You could see it in her face. She was never going to flee the field of battle. It was always going to be a fight to the death. She went to defend the castle and its people and so couldn’t leave them to the mercy of Vhagar. Shame though, probably the most likable character.

  • @borderlandish1140
    @borderlandish1140 22 дня назад +39

    She went back knowing she could've ended the war right then and there.

  • @RieCeleste
    @RieCeleste 22 дня назад +17

    Team Black of Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen from House Targaryen.
    Meley's and Rhaenys sacrifice their lives for Rhaenyra and her cause to get what is hers. We may see her hard on Rhaenyra during her younger days and also when her son wedded the Princess turn into Queen.
    She was really indeed the queen who never was. The stares between her and Meleys indicates that they will ride and die together.
    I'm hoping that the Seasnake would not blame Rhaenyra for this Tragedy..
    I almost cried because I can't imagine without her in HOTD. Baella would surely avenged her.

    • @jkbzz
      @jkbzz 22 дня назад +4

      it was an unncessary and stupid sacrifice that no one asked of her.
      she already disabled Sunfyre, that was more than enough really, why turn and go back to face Vhagar when she and the dragon meleys knew they could not win.
      quite stupid and illogical of the show runners. Rhaenyra would have been happy to hear they disabled Aegon and Sunfyre, that would have left the Greens with only Vhagar and if she had escaped, Meleys and Caraxes could have easily taken on Vhagar and won for sure.

    • @RieCeleste
      @RieCeleste 22 дня назад +3

      @@jkbzz It's about vengeance on what happened to Luke, guess more of guilt and remorse since she already had the chance to end the Greens but she never did.

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +6

      Baella will avenge her. this dance is not over by a long shot.

    • @RieCeleste
      @RieCeleste 22 дня назад +1

      @@dottiemathews6853 For sure they will. Jace and Baella would probably waiting for that moment.

    • @georgecheliotis418
      @georgecheliotis418 22 дня назад

      ​@@dottiemathews6853 She will not avenge her. The story has already been written.

  • @kylemma33
    @kylemma33 22 дня назад +5

    One of the major reasons she didn't run was because criston and the green army were still alive. If she left before killing criston and Aemond, the greens wouldve taken rooks rest. Protecting Lord staunton was the entire reason she came rooks rest, so leaving and allowing the greens to capture it would have made her coming pointless.

  • @MocaJesus
    @MocaJesus 22 дня назад +4

    That last look Meleys gave to Rhaenys..I just felt like it was an apology and a goodbye wrapped in one.
    "I'm sorry I couldn't protect you. I'm sorry I failed. I love you. Goodbye."
    Rest in power Princesses Rhaenys & the Red Queen Meley! “Beloved daughter of Lady Jocelyn Baratheon and Prince Aemon Targaryen,faithful wife to Lord Corlys Velaryon, Mother, Grandmother, the Queen who never was lived fearlessly,and died amidst blood and fire. She was 55 years old”
    📖Fire and Blood ✍️ George RR Martin
    #TheQueenWhoAlwaysWas
    #RedQueenReigns #MeleysTheMajestic #FireBourne #UnbreakableSpirit #FireAndBlood

  • @erickulakovich7303
    @erickulakovich7303 22 дня назад +14

    She shouldve left after vhagar smacked the ground or at least loop up and back down to the back of vhagar im pretty sure if she did that they wouldve killed vhagar.

    • @FeezFBaby
      @FeezFBaby 21 день назад +1

      Hell no, there’s no killing Vhagar in a 1v1 battle. It’s just impossible. You’ve to be a badass warrior like Daemon in order to handle that much weight. Rhaenys was tied for 2nd with Rhaenyra as my fav characters bcuz Daemon is my #1. Even if she were to do what u said, I’m sure Vhagar would’ve survived. You’ve to get the surprise attack on Vhagar to kill her bcuz she’s a huge beeotch lmfao.

    • @erickulakovich7303
      @erickulakovich7303 21 день назад

      @@FeezFBabyyeah itd be a surprise if she looped and and landed on her back of her neck while vhagar is recovering from slaming the ground meleys couldve had her neck in her jaws and claws in her neck shredding and ripping and burning till she either killed her or if she managed to get out of that no way vhagar would survive that.

  • @mythicalgam
    @mythicalgam 22 дня назад +12

    Rhaenys had the bigest dragon fore the blacks it was a mestack to not flee after tacking down sun fier

  • @addacusfinch1510
    @addacusfinch1510 22 дня назад +41

    I think it was about what Daemond said to her. The audacity of what Daemond said pissed her off more than she let on and she was trying to end the whole thing right then. Brave is an understatement. Badass Grandma!!

    • @tomlinsona0704
      @tomlinsona0704 22 дня назад +8

      My thoughts exactly. Daemon serrated her l and Rhaenrya struggled to keep the peace, a peace that would have never been interrupted if Rhaenys hadn't hesitated when she had the entire Green side dead to rights. I knew as soon as she tethered herself to Meleys, she was willing to die fighting. Rhaenys the Queen that never was, stood on business.

    • @Direkt932
      @Direkt932 22 дня назад +4

      She just blundered a huge military advantage for no real reason. The Greens already have less dragons and now the Blacks not only traded equally but lost their biggest dragon so far. I know it was in the books and had to happen but i dont believe she would be so stupid. She just kinda "forgot" to fight another day 😂

    • @jackcarver5412
      @jackcarver5412 22 дня назад

      yes she got tired of the disrespect

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад +1

      Daemon wasn't wrong but neither was Rhaenys. Rhaenys doesn't want a war between dragons. When Viserys was chosen over here she didn't put up a fight, she just accepted it and held no bitterness towards Viserys, she might have had resentment towards the sexism of the system but not at Viserys personally. That's the kind of person she is. She chooses peace. She doesn't have the aggressiveness that Daemon has, but Daemon also has a personal hate towards the Hightowers. Had Rhaenys killed all of the hightowers at the coronation she woulda gone down in history as the most infamous villainous kinslayer.

    • @abelincoln.2064
      @abelincoln.2064 22 дня назад +1

      Only she & Daemon ... were experienced enough to kill Vhagar. She simply made a mistake ... losing sight of the grounded & wounded old dragon ... and had assumed it was fleeing

  • @jkbzz
    @jkbzz 22 дня назад +20

    look in real-life, people withdraw all the time, it made no sense for Rhaenys to have remained there. At that point, she had done well, she disabled Sunfyre and Aegon, that was a victory in and of itself and Rhaenyra would have been happy with the outcome. It was quite foolish, unneccesary and illogical for her to turn back and face Vhagar. She knew she would lose, Meleys knew she was no match for Vhagar yet somehow Rhaenys preferred to turn back, the show makes no sense in this regard.

    • @j5daniel182
      @j5daniel182 22 дня назад +2

      Actually he did realized she had a chance. Aemond was not experienced. She just took down Vhagar while battling Sunfyre. Plus she was not afraid to die in the process . like a Kamikaze.

    • @MoorishAlliance
      @MoorishAlliance 21 день назад

      In moments of truth people take surprisingly decisions that don't pass the cost to benefit ratio.
      Some people are just tired of life, want a glorious end

    • @FeezFBaby
      @FeezFBaby 21 день назад

      U gotta remember that it has already been written in the books that they all die. A lot of the characters & basically all of the dragons except for 2 all dies my friend. In the books Vhagar/Aemond swoops down & takes them both out while they was busy fighting with each other Meleys/Rhaenys vs Sunfyre/Aegon so at least on the show the queen that never was Rhaenys & the most beautiful dragon on the show Meleys went out honorably imo R.I.P.🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯

    • @EarthVanderer
      @EarthVanderer 18 дней назад

      how do you come to the conclusion that she was no match for Vhagar? it 50-50 chance, biggest dragon of the black team that is younger and faster vs Vhagar. your analysis the soldier mentally maybe wrong.

  • @ctterry7
    @ctterry7 22 дня назад +20

    She seized two unexpected opportunities to prevent a potential war and thereby persent herself as a true Queen.

  • @HamBone86
    @HamBone86 22 дня назад +3

    I think it was a combination of things. She probably did feel a little bit of guilt from fleeing the coronation because of the way Daemon had to rub it in her face, but mainly she probably just wanted to try to end the war and knew she would die giving it her all.

  • @AC-dw1bt
    @AC-dw1bt 22 дня назад +5

    I think it had to do also with Vaghar. She lost both her daughter and grandson to this dragon. She also was upset with her husband. That scene with her husband had significance that will probably play out later. Plus she knew and has stated she was expendable. She had the next biggest dragon. She held her ground but Aemond used the similar sneak attack. The Green’s army were cutting down trees and I believe it was to be helpful for their dragon who strategically wait in the woods. The Red Queen, The Queen Who Never Was dragon’s nickname is faster, more agile and has battle experience. This is known. The King putting himself in the line of fire was the only thing that was unexpected. Everything else was going as planned. Damon’s whereabouts were known so it was the perfect opportunity in terms of a war strategy.

    • @kylemma33
      @kylemma33 22 дня назад +1

      Dragon combat is all about angles and blindside attacks. We see Meleys do the same thing twice on sunfyre.

  • @Sly-Regicide
    @Sly-Regicide 22 дня назад +23

    I'm sorry that was dumb. Vhagar was injured. Sunfire and Aegon were more than likely dead if not, surely out of the fight. The attack was halted. Maeleys was injured but still faster then Vhagar. She should have regrouped back to Dragon Stone. Instead she turns into a kamikaze pilot? They could have atleast had some compelling reason for her to turn back around. To save a life or even exploiting a temporary advantage... like making sure Aegon was dead. Maybe i'm bitter she was one of my favorite characters but I think her death should have meant more.

    • @sudukohustler
      @sudukohustler 22 дня назад +3

      It's the heart of a warrior to die in battle than retreat or shame. From the get go, the Blacks knew that there's a high chance many of them will die for staying true to their heart/allegiance

    • @kylemma33
      @kylemma33 22 дня назад +1

      Vhagar wasn't injured, meleys claws couldn't cut deep enough to do any real damage, it was just a superficial scratch.

    • @Sly-Regicide
      @Sly-Regicide 22 дня назад

      @@sudukohustler I get it but, I am thinking tactical use of dragons and strategies they could use. Especially with their numerical advantage. Like have a second high above monitoring as a look out or for rescue. What she did was akin to su1c1de. You play to your advantages in war. Speed not strength was her advantage. MMA fighters have a warriors spirit but they still move when someone tries to hit them. They still tap out when choked. She fought a good fight. She took out one of their 3.... Now RUN! You could be right But... I'm in my feelings.

    • @abelincoln.2064
      @abelincoln.2064 22 дня назад +4

      Wrong. She a top dragonrider along with Daemon ... and expertly approached Vhagar, wound her and force her to the ground.
      Here mistake ... was losing SIGHT .... of Vhagar and assumed the dragon was fleeing and as she flew over the Castle in pursuit of the "wounded" Dragon she was surprised by the counterattack.
      If she can see where Vhagar is ... she can attack and hurt her. But if she does not know where Vhargar is, then she will be attacked (ambushed). She needed to have Vhagar in sight at all time .. to devised the best way to attack or to defend.
      Not dumb. Just a mistake

    • @Sly-Regicide
      @Sly-Regicide 21 день назад

      @@abelincoln.2064Again Einstein tactically it wasn't smart. Who is faster? Who was stronger? How do you know she flew in like a expert? Have you studied dragon battle tactics? She had 2 chances to use her advantage of speed and flee. She wouldn't have needed to see where Vhagar was if she was far ahead. Did you see Aemon chasing her? NO! he was going to kill Aegon. You said it was a mistake I agree... a mistake on the part of the writers who didn't think it through. There are many compelling ways they could have used to make it make sense. But okay yeah... they wrote in a mistake that completely ignores the base human instinct of survival. GREAT THEORY!

  • @12814693
    @12814693 22 дня назад +2

    The way aemond dropped off his aunt with smirk on his face was epic

  • @dottiemathews6853
    @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +5

    I THINK IT WAS BOTH REASONS. AND SHE DIED LIKE A WARRIOR QUEEN THAT WAS. RIP QUEEN RHAENYS AND RIP MELEYS. YOUR DEATH SHALL BE AVENGED!

  • @a-sword417
    @a-sword417 20 дней назад +1

    The interaction between her & her Dragon (Meley’s) was well done, as if her Dragon knew it was a suicidal attack..especially being older and well seasoned in battle. Well done.

  • @markfarrens7733
    @markfarrens7733 22 дня назад +5

    I side with house Targaryen (the blacks). I hold the oath taken by my ancestors to king the true heir to the iron throne

  • @jenparianos
    @jenparianos 21 день назад +6

    I’m still reeling from this episode! It was, by far, the best one in the entire series thus far. RIP to the Queen who never was and her fierce and loyal dragon. They both went out like a BOSS.

  • @paulgreen2401
    @paulgreen2401 22 дня назад +5

    I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, although I think it'd have made a lot more sense for her to race back to either Dragonstone or Harrenhall for back-up. Her dragon would've left Grandma Vahgar behind.
    Despite the hundreds or thousands she killed when Meleys burst through the dragon-pit, Rhaenys was probably my favourite character overall.

    • @DanyaZwiegelaar
      @DanyaZwiegelaar 22 дня назад +2

      She would definitely leave Vhagar in the dust. Meleys is the fastest dragon. Also when she returned to (try and) finish it Aemond was actually on his way to kill Aegon so she could've fled to get back up.

  • @JeddieT
    @JeddieT 21 день назад +2

    Everyone suggests that Rhaenys had the opportunity to escape but chose not to. Since Damion and Cole’s plan was precisely to lure out the dragon(s) and have Vhagar ambush them, Damion would not have let Rhaenys fly off without a fight. I believe Rhaenys was well aware there would be no turning back and chose to make her brave life or death stand then and there.

  • @gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
    @gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 22 дня назад +2

    She truly was the best choice for leadership. Now all hell will break lose. But that is what we are here for.

  • @theinfamousplz6983
    @theinfamousplz6983 22 дня назад +2

    Aegon's dragon, Sunfyre kissed him goodbye before he saddled him at the dragon pit, but that likka still told him to mount and ride...

  • @firelordprometheus6345
    @firelordprometheus6345 22 дня назад +3

    I know its not in the books but had she just left. She leaves the Greens with 2 dragons versus the Blacks 5. Also the "King" is either slain or severly injured. This would demoralize Hightower supporters over to Rhaenyras side.
    Going back only opens up the chance to lose a dragon and give the Greens something to rally behind with their supporters. Which is exactly what happens.

  • @nhoodjazz
    @nhoodjazz 22 дня назад +7

    I’m gonna miss her

  • @johnhancock3666
    @johnhancock3666 17 дней назад +1

    It's crazy to think that If she ended up being queen after Jaherys non of these events would've unfolded. The dragons would've never died, the blackfyre rebellions (all two of them) would've never happened, Robert's rebellion most likely would've never happened, and the white walkers would've been obliterated.

  • @cathryntruebloood3913
    @cathryntruebloood3913 22 дня назад +5

    I am team black all the way. I have adored the videos you put out, and thank you for your content.

  • @regisre00
    @regisre00 22 дня назад +11

    Also, Vhagar was her daughters dragon, and Aemond took it away

  • @Rachro
    @Rachro 22 дня назад +5

    Yes, both. And i believe she was sick of her husband's 💩 too.

  • @AngelMartinez-jn5jf
    @AngelMartinez-jn5jf 22 дня назад +9

    Did anybody notice vagar did the samething he did with lucerus and his dragon he got them both from under

    • @rodneyc8126
      @rodneyc8126 22 дня назад +5

      Blindsided them both from the side. I also noticed Vhagar is not invincible. Two large dragons can defeat Vhagar.

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад

      @@rodneyc8126 i bet 10 to 1 Daemond is going to try that same strategy on Vhagar. or it might be a double team on him.

    • @AngeliRivera92
      @AngeliRivera92 22 дня назад +3

      What’s weird is how the fuck she always sneaking up on people lol like bro ain’t no way you that big and sneaky the first time time I understand the second time hmm she should of saw her

    • @sherriew36
      @sherriew36 22 дня назад

      ​@AngeliRivera92 Vhagar an old stealthful battleaxe🪓😂. We can't underestimate her wisdom in battle, she has the most fighting experience.

    • @AngeliRivera92
      @AngeliRivera92 22 дня назад +1

      @@sherriew36 lol yeah hahaha but was crazy she was hiding behind the tower and she way bigger then the tower lol

  • @007TheLife
    @007TheLife 22 дня назад +1

    She tried to get two for one. From her point of view, Sunfyre and Aegon are dead. If she took out Aemond and Vhaegar, the Greens wouldn’t have any chance at winning. All they would have left are Daeron and his dragon. Helena is to grieve stricken and inexperienced to even think about fighting with her dragon. The Dance would’ve ended as quickly as it began.

  • @goated3285
    @goated3285 22 дня назад +2

    Rest in peace auntie 😩😭

  • @TheOne62403
    @TheOne62403 21 день назад +1

    A thought I had... she also understood that whoever replaced Aegon would be a MASSIVE upgrade for the Greens. Cyclops & Dragon Hulk were the biggest (literally & figuratively) pieces in the Blacks way, at that moment.
    Kudos to Rhaenys & (my fav) Meleys, The Red Queen. Well depicted, represented and acted!

  • @jo351
    @jo351 22 дня назад +1

    I think taken in account for Vhagars size, they need to stop sending single dragons. Also it was obvious this was a trap. Cole had been hiding in the dark and attacking then suddenly he's out in the daytime in full view of the sky. Why did no one think this is suspicious

  • @EmoHime
    @EmoHime 22 дня назад +1

    I feel like she knew she would die anyway, so she damaged Vhagar as best she could. She went out with a dragon rider's death. She should have been Queen. She dies honorably.

  • @mohammedmohibullah4083
    @mohammedmohibullah4083 22 дня назад +4

    She should have fled it would be a great victory for the black aegon injured and sunfyre cripple she should have fled

  • @dezmill
    @dezmill 22 дня назад +3

    Died for nothing and accomplished zero. Should have just left.

    • @Jorod444
      @Jorod444 22 дня назад

      This is the first of many battles that will cripple the king irreversibly...also shows the people on the ground that just one decent dragon alone is enough to threaten their entire opposition (they watched the mighty vhagar fall as well). Wouldn't exactly say she didn't accomplish anything.

  • @Dmil2506
    @Dmil2506 22 дня назад +3

    He’s not her grandson Damn!!!🤷🏾and she knew it as well as anyone

  • @MidratsSnack
    @MidratsSnack 22 дня назад +5

    Aemond must die

  • @HypatiaStudy
    @HypatiaStudy 21 день назад +1

    She should have been crowned. She would have been the wisest choice. I knew this was coming, I read the book. I think Meleys did have a chance against Vhagar (Vhagar is very slow, something his rider must be aware of in his strategy) but Rhenys knew she would die there when she turned around to face Vhagar.

  • @latj16x
    @latj16x 22 дня назад +5

    Vhagar is huge but she didn’t see war in a very long time unlike Caraxes & Daemon I cannot wait to see how that battle will be cause im not gone lie rhaenys dragon did good she was beating vhagar ass for a lil minute lol but Caraxes is different he is one of those crazy killing dragons he earned that name the blood wyrm for a reason vhagar I love you & aemond but yall time is coming

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +1

      FOR REAL!!!

    • @kylemma33
      @kylemma33 22 дня назад

      She wasn't beating Vhagar's ass, Vhagar is uninjured, other than the superficial scratch on Vhagar's chest.

    • @latj16x
      @latj16x 22 дня назад

      @@kylemma33 meleys was getting some shots on vhagar at least she got some shots off her vhagar she is huge as hell but yeah that episode was a 10 in my opinion

    • @latj16x
      @latj16x 22 дня назад

      @@kylemma33 ik vhagar isn’t hurt I just was sayin at least meleys got some shots

  • @elainenagano2735
    @elainenagano2735 21 день назад +1

    Ah I am so so sad about Rheanys death! I agree she was motivated to not show fear and to avenge her nephews demise due to inaction when she had the chance. But she didn’t want to be the one who started this terrible war. She said nothing more devastating and bloody than a war with dragons! I wish she would have gone back for help! Why did they let her go Alone in the first place???? I still do not understand that! Had to process her sacrifice. Rheanyra has lost her best and closest family member and ally! I feel a deep hole now in the plot! Who can take her place in the family? And in our hearts and in the show!! She was the Strongest ally Rheanyera had! All the comments agree she will be painfully missed as is her brave Dragon Meleys! RSVP 9:

  • @herbaldragon7646
    @herbaldragon7646 22 дня назад +1

    She knew she was no match and had no chance,that was a emo move and childlike,she deserved better

  • @AkronRain69
    @AkronRain69 19 дней назад +1

    RIP to the Queen Rhaenys and the Warrior Meleys!! 💔💔💔

  • @SouthernPioneer1965
    @SouthernPioneer1965 22 дня назад +1

    I think she thought she could possibly stop the war before anyone else had to die, and that is courageous, but also stupid . The war itself is a bigger picture, and she and her Dragon were important to Rheanrya . Deamon was possibly right again. When he mentioned her and Meleys and Caraxes have more of a chance taking Vhagar down together.
    She had already deeply injured if not killled SunFyre leaving the greens with only Vhagar and DreamFyre but with the conditions Helena is in she is the only one that can ride DreamFyre . She truly should have used her head and. Or her emotions.

  • @theteachers1
    @theteachers1 22 дня назад +4

    I haven't watched you're video yet but want to leave my theory before I press play. I figure she knows that if Vaghar lives, there is no chance of winning the war or she already sees the war as lost and wants to die as a dragon rider. edit - also, maybe she regretted not going with Daemon earlier to kill the old bitch. Say what you will about the guy but his dragon and the red queen could have handled her.

  • @Mike-iy6sy
    @Mike-iy6sy 22 дня назад +2

    Vhagar is a her not a him.

  • @Duwhop31
    @Duwhop31 22 дня назад +2

    #TeamBlack #QueenRhaenyra not only was She the rightful heir I happen to favor way more of the #Blacks than any of the #Greens (I do like Helena tho)

    • @DanyaZwiegelaar
      @DanyaZwiegelaar 22 дня назад +1

      Helaena is like the dragons. They are innocent casualties in this war. Helaena lost a child and gets no support from her husband/brother.

  • @basinga9693
    @basinga9693 22 дня назад +1

    This desicion was so important. The blacks lost one of the strongest dragons

  • @gavindadds4414
    @gavindadds4414 21 день назад

    Remember this is a TV dramatisation. In the book she was lured into the trap and ambushed by Vhagar and Aemond, she never had the chance to escape. With Aegon and Sunfyre down in the show she should have bolted for Dragonstone. She waits for Daemon to return and then they could double team Vhagar in future engagements.

  • @nuancolar7304
    @nuancolar7304 21 день назад

    Rhaenys also knew the Greens were winning even before the battle of Rooks Rest, if for no other reason than they were on the offensive, growing their strength, and had a plan. Rhaenys admired the attempt to stop the war, but she also saw how the Blacks were in disarray while the enemy grew stronger. The mistake was going alone and believing victory was simply a matter of force. She and everyone else on team Black failed to realize they were facing not just a strong enemy, but a cunning enemy. Their failure to see this allowed Rhaenys to fly right into a trap. The plot twist of Aegon's fate is irrelevant to the war, because the Greens were planning and waging the war without him anyway.

  • @captainmike5303
    @captainmike5303 22 дня назад +3

    She should have known Vhagar could only use a sneak attack to catch her. She should’ve tired out Vhagar by out maneuvering her. Then she could have attacked from behind and torched Aemon or knocked him off his dragon.

    • @captainmike5303
      @captainmike5303 22 дня назад +1

      I also think she was too smart to make it so easy. Rhaenera should have anticipated that this was a trap and used numbers to take out a Vhagar. The greens only have 2 Dragons to fight with and even a small dragon would make a big difference if they worked t

    • @abelincoln.2064
      @abelincoln.2064 22 дня назад

      She simply made a mistake ...losing sight ... of Vhagar after expertly forcing the old girl to the ground. She assumed Vhagar was fleeing and had blindly turned to pursue her. Huge mistake.

    • @captainmike5303
      @captainmike5303 22 дня назад

      When you send your biggest weapon you send it with backup and overwhelming force. Vhagar is the slowest dragon so all the dragons should be able to escape her attacks. And make hit and run attacks to her under belly and back.

  • @Powerfull4u
    @Powerfull4u 18 дней назад

    It's not that hard people.
    She knew she would very likely die, but she also knew If she was lucky enough and took down Aemond she had single-handedly ended the war then and there and spared the kingdom of all that was to come. She had already passed the opportunity to do so once.
    She is an experienced dragon rider with the second strongest dragon in the world, even if she couldn't kill Vhagar herself, killing Aemond or managing to hurt Vhagar enough to put her out for a while would effectively leave the Greens defenseless.
    She thought she had a chance (and she did) and took it.

  • @user-mj5dq2lc1l
    @user-mj5dq2lc1l 22 дня назад

    Meleys showed a strong bond and loyalty, she is no stranger to war. She was fearless, took two dragons.

  • @Wynstorm3
    @Wynstorm3 22 дня назад

    It was a matter of honor, both personal and to Rhaenyra. If Rhaenys had abandoned the battlefield while Vhagar was still able to fight, it would have made Rhaenyra look weak, cowardly, and untrustworthy as both a queen and an ally. The same applies for Rhaenys herself (especially as a female leader once denied the Iron Throne). Win or lose, she had to fight to the end. There was no other choice.

  • @priyanshupriyadarshi5501
    @priyanshupriyadarshi5501 20 дней назад +1

    Probably in the heat of moment she lost the bigger picture in mind. Sunfyer was injured with Aegon that was a win with that she should have returned and reported the vulnerability of kings landing as well as the ambush attempt by vhagar and aemond which would have allowed a better strategy for the blacks.

  • @parthosarathimaxotek
    @parthosarathimaxotek 22 дня назад +2

    Why didn’t they take two dragons to the fight? If the enemy brought no dragon it would be quick work. If they did, it would give them better chance of victory.

    • @zoe1882
      @zoe1882 22 дня назад

      Cuz Daemon went missing in Harenhall on his own thing. If he was there was Caraxes, definitely woulda won. Jacerys dragon is not very strong and too young, Syrax has never been to battle and if Rhaenera dies, well their entire cause dies. Caraxes was the only option but Daemon is doing his own selfish thing.

  • @HackersGamingAdventures
    @HackersGamingAdventures 22 дня назад +2

    Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen from House Targaryen.

  • @addacusfinch1510
    @addacusfinch1510 22 дня назад +4

    He thinks he is untouchable

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +1

      Who? Aemond? humm....i smell a conspiracy theory coming on and it has to do with Myseria.

    • @Jorod444
      @Jorod444 22 дня назад

      He is not. Daemon will make sure he knows this before this is all over.

  • @rodeanabean4019
    @rodeanabean4019 22 дня назад +3

    I think she wanted to avenge grandson.

  • @pudgyfolds2186
    @pudgyfolds2186 21 день назад +1

    Poor dragon kept tryin to dip out and she kept turning back. That look she gave to rhaenys as it died was like "u fucking old croan, i did not agree to this kamikaze bullshit". pointless death, and she didnt even get Aegon, turns out he's alive and his dragon too. No wonder they ran out of dragons, cos they were just willing to throw them away as if they were expendable. U would think, if there were less than 20 dragons left in existence, that both sides would agree to use them only as a last resort or better yet, not at all. They shoulda treated them like nuclear deterrents, instead of horses. Also i expected way more in terms of tactics. They just charged at each other like they were duelling on horseback. They shoulda been fighting at a much higher altitude and attacking from above and below, from blind spots and using cloud cover for hit n run attacks against a much bigger slower vhagar. Its like the writers have never seen a single dogfight between fighter jets. They had plenty of tactical fighting vs the night king in the long night season 8 ep 3. Where was all that? How did three noobies had didn't even have freakin saddles on their dragons manage to fight with infinitely better strategy than veteran dragon riders? one of them being an old war vet (rhaenys) with i would assume yrs of training. Yet they just charged head on at each other like 2 idiots in a duel and fell from the sky like 2 pigeons having sex. Fucking "Red Tails" had better battles than this

  • @darthvictor6919
    @darthvictor6919 22 дня назад +2

    Hello! Ok I’m team black because that’s the way it was suppose to be and also because I loved Jaherys the last king…felt so bad 4 him when he walked to this throne on that last family dinner…

  • @MydasNeomagie
    @MydasNeomagie 17 дней назад

    "Vhagar is the one to hit the ground first" - and only, because Meleys never hit the ground in that scene.

  • @RobinS1223
    @RobinS1223 22 дня назад +2

    I hope aemond respected her efforts

  • @CasualJoat
    @CasualJoat 22 дня назад +3

    My fav character gone, such presence & grace

    • @dottiemathews6853
      @dottiemathews6853 22 дня назад +2

      *deep sigh of regret* Yeah, she was a great character. A fierce leader, and a brave warrior fighter. Thats how it is when you play the game of thrones. most of the good ones has to die off.

  • @mickeymora654
    @mickeymora654 22 дня назад +1

    I love her she has strength and dignity

  • @diwakarkumar6530
    @diwakarkumar6530 21 день назад

    Rhaenys and Meleys' death was a blow to the Blacks, but in reality, it was a major blow to the Targaryens. As the oldest living Targaryen, she tried to stop the civil war and wanted to save both wings of her ancient Valyrian house. She knew that no one would win, but the Targaryens would lose everything in this battle.

  • @sarge-T.O.
    @sarge-T.O. 21 день назад

    Once she'd already felled King Aegon and Sunfire, the best move now was to flee with a huge victory for her side.
    Better strategy, but less drama for the show.

  • @chantycurtis3062
    @chantycurtis3062 21 день назад

    No lie, I didn’t care for her in the beginning but she definitely grew on me. The way she went out….. man!!! She went out gangsta. She could have left but she turned back around and said “ let’s go to war”. She definitely did damage.

  • @tekuingahere9452
    @tekuingahere9452 18 дней назад

    She is by far my most favourite character. Very dignified, wise, and long suffering woman.

  • @wadewilson8011
    @wadewilson8011 21 день назад

    It could've been that Rhaenys didn't want to risk being chased down by Aemon and Vhagar while Meleys was wounded. Might as well turn around, stand your grownd than fly off exhausted and guarantee a loss. Fight or flight. She chose to fight. She was ambushed, so if she was going to die, dhe might as well die fighting.
    So if you think she was a fool, you're actually the fool who doesn't know how to "read the room."

  • @FilmFactsUncovered
    @FilmFactsUncovered 22 дня назад

    Melys looked back at her when Vhagar was grounded . The look to me was like “ are we going to run or finish this “… she acknowledged the look and turned around .

  • @ahmedalayan9811
    @ahmedalayan9811 21 день назад

    For those wondering why she didn't run away...this is called courage. She didn't want to run away and put her tail between her legs.

  • @theinfamousplz6983
    @theinfamousplz6983 22 дня назад +1

    Rhaenys diəd a true Dragon Rider's dəąth 😢
    #RIP 💔🕊
    And I believe she returned because Aemond wouldn't have allowed her to retreat... Once the fight started, it was no other choice but to see it through...
    I blame Daemon, Rhaenyra, and the rest of the adults, they should've never allow Aemond to keep Vhaegar, the way he claimed Vhaegar was wrong...

  • @milleramine262
    @milleramine262 21 день назад

    The first time, she tried to test her dragon against Vhaegar, but she saw it was bigger and she can't beat Aemond. As a smart Princess like she used to be, I thought she would go and ask for help, I thought maybe Damon would join the fight...
    She decided to comeback knowing she will die, and Rhaenyra's team loosing one of the biggest dragons (Maelys), such a waste and a suicidal end...Very frustrating.

  • @JackieCola1405
    @JackieCola1405 21 день назад

    I really don't understand why she didn't fled. This time it was something completely different from that than it broke out. In turn, she could have killed everyone because there was no other dragon nearby. But to record it with Vhagar, especially where he even left her alone. Better back and then try it again with one or more other dragons. That was simply senseless her death, in my eyes.

  • @dinafisher199
    @dinafisher199 18 дней назад

    I very much appreciate you saying that she feels guilty for Lucerys' death and wants to avenge him. I watch several other recaps and analysis, and they all have various stupid reasons for why she returned to the fight. But if you pay attention to her reaction and body language every time his death is mentioned, you can clearly see her regret and guilty feelings. This is why I like your content better than the others

  • @JessBoucher-mu9yj
    @JessBoucher-mu9yj 22 дня назад +2

    How do we know that King aegon is not dead

  • @ktymouse
    @ktymouse 21 день назад

    I know that if anyone or anything hurts any one of my grandchildren there will be nowhere on Earth to hide from me. Rhaenys did exactly what I would do.