Batman The Killing Joke Review (SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2016
- This IS a BATMAN Killing Joke Review by a Fan of BTAS & the 1988 Novel by Alan Moore! Warning this video contains Spoilers & is Rated R. Don't watch if you have NOT seen it. Or if you're not planning on Watching this Movie, WATCH THIS!
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This shows that one bad movie can turn a man as mad as the Joker.
lol that's what I said
me too
All it takes is one bad movie.
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Well said😅👍🏻
Okay so first Barbra dates Tim Drake in arkham knight who's like her (ex) boyfriend's brother then she makes out with batman ? What's next ? Barbra marries Alfred ?
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Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy's best performances are the Arkham series of games by far.
The greatest superhero game series ever
I'd say Mask of the Phantasm myself, but their Arkham work is tough to beat
You cant go wrong with Arkham games or anything related to the animated series in this competition
I agree
yeah though animated series come close to me
I get it now! The point of this movie was Joker teaching us that it takes one bad day (movie) for a person to go insane. The day we see this, is the day we go insane. It IS like the ride Gordan was on!
it felt like batgirl the killing joke for the fist 30 minutes
Fucking Batman was her development? Yeah okay
not even the batgirl the killing joke it's more like the angsty adventures of batgirl
I liked the end credits because that meant it was over
Corn Dawg 1198 Yassssss!
They didn't bring back Kevin Conroy. He never left.
lol they have him on speed dial. Kevin has played the longer then any actor in history. Just a decade more and his time as the Dark Knight will be Legendary.
+kNIGHTWING01 what about superman voice actor from the animated series
+kNIGHTWING01 hey kwing love your videos quick suggestion in the future can you either play spiderman web of shadows or hulk ultimate destination please!!!? Thanks. Love the joker he's like my nightwing hello from Ireland!
Luke O Doherty im with you on the spiderman and hulk games
@@kNIGHTWING01 can you imagine konroy doing the I know pain line from year one?
So Batman and Batgirl is like incest but nightwing and Babs aren't?
uhh, no. How is that incest?
That's apparently his reasoning. I'm cool with his opinions of course but he's contradicting himself a bit. To be fair though, I didn't finish the video yet. I am 10 minutes in.
+TornadoFire if that isn't incest then batman and batgirl isn't either
+TornadoFire he's referring to how they would be like brother and sister but I wouldn't really agree with that.
I know what he meant, but his wording didn't come off right. It's like in the flash tv show. It's totally okay for Barry and Iris to hook up. Definitely not cool for Barry and Joe to hook up.
What if the batgirl prologue was about batgirl and nightwing taking down the joker similar to the batgirl dlc in arkham knight but with nightwing instead of Tim drake robin
I'll be honest, I find the Barbara x Tim relationship kind of creepy too.
Eh, it's like incest between little brother and big sister, still creepy.
Technically even the Batman Beyond cartoon series had the whole Bruce and Barbara relationship. There was a scene at a diner early on in the show where Barbara and Terry were talking and Barbara basically confirmed that she and Bruce had been a couple and possibly more. The way that scene went I personally came away from that scene thinking that Barbara and Bruce had actually been married for a short time....and the thought of their animated series counterparts being married is just....ugh.
Paul Dini should've been there
Yeah I love Bruce Timm's art but he is a horrible writer Paul should've been involved in the story more then him
It's already Scary when Joker Laughs most of the time and when Batman (Kevin Conroy) Laughing is even more terrifying.............I LIKE IT😅
After watching this review i dont think I'll watch it. The Killing Joke is one of my favorite comics and I don't want to watch something that turns it into some fanfiction bullshit
it's good if you skip all the Barbara stuff
Honestly, I would advice you not to. The Killing Joke is my favorite as well and believe me, this film is not worth watching. At all.
skip 35 minutes and watch it for free somewhere
+XaNvAzAn !!!
Yeah but even that much fell a little flat considering what could have been expected, especially in an adaptation of this story. Especially from Bruce Timm.
Yeah skip to the third act.
kevin Conroy's batman should never laugh. It sounds creepy and weird.
That's the point
He laughed in the animated series. But the fact that he laughed at Joker's joke is meant to be out of character
+bloodpondstudios If you die in the Laughing Gas room in Arkham Asylum, You can listen to KC's Batman laughing really creepy.
+Jini Salliego Really?? Damn, I should replay it again next time I get the chance
That's the point. The ending is supposed to make you shudder.
"Im a huge batman fan, and I dont mind this"
NO YOU ARE NOT A HUGE BATMAN FAN, huge batman would actually care about the source material and wanted it to be treated well, all your showing is that your fine if writers butchering characters, and your are just a push over, "Big" fans should not support this or be fine with this what so ever, if you dont know Batman that well, ok that is fine but realize why the real "Big" batman fans are outraged
I agree
Some people are like I'm fine with this and I like batman
While real fans of the batman series hate that Barbra and batman scene 👿
I am a "real" Batman fan, just as much as any "real" Batman fan, and I'm perfectly okay with Barbara and Bruce together. I know many others that are as well. It makes sense. Then again I am as open minded about sexuality and relationships, as much as I am a huge Bat-fanatic. It's OKAY people. It's okay.
Travis Wayne "Real" Batman fans wouldn't want their characters butchered, congrats you are a push over
obigen oh so batman should go back to using guns i get it now
Hmm
This movie kinda proves who was the real genius in charge of the DCAU and that was Paul Dini
Yup
+kNIGHTWING01 i'm looking for the article now but Bruce Tim did a interview saying that he never wanted to do the killing joke because he thought it would not ever be done correctly if you watch the panel from, comic con he is very standoffish and when that fight breaks out he wants nothing to do it!!!
WHY TIMMY WHY??!!
Wasn't completely terrible (mostly) but it could have been SO MUCH BETTER WHY YOU DO THIS BRUCE?
Because he's Batman
@@abramsullivan7764 he's talking about Bruce Timm not Wayne
I wouldn't say the BatmanxBatgirl thing would be incest or pedophilia but I do think it is unneeded and in bad taste. From what I can tell of the whole Batgirl thing they added to the movie it just degraded her down to a lustful, angsty, lover girl instead of the heroine she was before and after getting shot. And it does seem to take the center stage away from who the story really was supposed to be about which takes away a lot of the weight behind it
The Pedo thing comes from Barbara knowing Batman since She was 4. Then training with Him as an Adult. It's very creepy. But hence many people are disturbed. Anyone saying they are the same age, are incorrect and babs statement proves this. The sound track for the roof scene is called regret. It also proves the character's immense guilt.
+kNIGHTWING01 I guess I can see how that particular psychological complex could make sense here as incestual, but it still feels like a bit of a stretch.
The master and student angle makes a bit more sense, as it's somewhat taboo, and I think that was their point.
Personally I find the whole thing really unnecessary to the plot, and it just makes Batgirl look like she's a reprobate sexual deviant rather than the character she was portrayed to be in any previous incarnation.
I fully agree that it weakens Batgirl's character to that of an impulsive, manipulative immature person who just got in too deep and pays the consequence.
The original treatment may have been horrible, but as some others have said THIS IS EVEN WORSE.
What about how Batman is relegated to effectively being the victim of Batgirl's advances (Hence the "Regret" title) and Joker's retaliation, while Gordon NOW exists merely for plotline purposes?
I should say I agree with you on how Batgirl was weakened as a character. I just noticed you said basically the same thing earlier.. (Apologies for double-posting. Mobile RUclips doesn't have an Edit Comment feature yet)
+thedatatreader There's a reason why the group of Bat heroes is referred to as "The Bat Family".
you're welcome Kwing, much love to your channel and much success to you and I hate that they won't do it, you have a lot of insight and a lot of great ideas but much love and much success😀
I'm sorry but i don't get the joke :(
can someone please explain
2 Guys from the Funny Farm, break out. And try to escape. But they are insane. Both believe that a person is able to walk on a beam of light to safety. The Joke is, both are insane.
+kNIGHTWING01 Bruce Timm said that he didn't want that scene in the film at all.
I don't believe Bruce Timm one bit. He put that prologue in the Killing Joke where it didn't belong, and he didn't even try to match it up with the rest of the movie. The movie was about the conflict between Joker and Jim Gordon, not Batgirl and Batman.
kNIGHTWING01 its good to know i can rely on you to answer your fans questions
thank you
i understand the joke now
np
personally I still love this film. At least half of itfor the most part. I think the joker side makes up for the first half however I will never again watch the first half.
Me too
I think the movie was good, I just don't like the batman and Barbra part
same just weird
OMG I AGREE.
Amazing review. You spoke my thoughts word for word.
The review i've been waiting for since i first heard about what happens in the Batgirl prologue. THANK YOU, Luke!!!
Personally, at first, i somewhat dreaded the idea of taking this particular graphic novel to animation, because of what happens to Barbara Gordon. However, as a stand-alone story i could get past that sentiment, and then when Bruce Timm said they were going to add a Batgirl story to compensate for how she's "Only there to get shot" in the novel.
I expected something heroic that would showcase how great of a character she was when she was Batgirl, to make the audience more aware of who was being shot beyond the fact that it was Gordon's daughter.
Instead we got this. Akward. Out of character. Batcest.... Ew. ew. ew!!!!
...and even the Oracle scene at the end doesn't make up for it, because it feels too much like an after-thought. If they wanted to include that, they should have added the story of how Barbara learns to deal with being disabled, and slowly finds a new destiny for herself as she invents the persona of Oracle. The film just shows her in a wheelchair saying "let's get back to work", as if it was something she thought up over night, and not a huge life-changing transformation and discovery of her own abilities with computer science.
Personally now, i just want to forget this crappy adaptation, and move on. I just hope that none of this bleeds into other animation projects.
it kinds sound like kwing got his one bad day.
was that tasteful or no
I love The Joke
You're everywh
I didn't get it
+jozah mann
Joker was the guy with the flashlight, Batman was the guy who couldn't jump across and free himself. Think about it.
+Kaleb Hay or maybe its the other way around
It could be. I like to imagine it's Joker who holds the flashlight considering that he's free from moral restrictions due to his philosophy and hes always trying to get Batman to come around to that freedom. But I suppose it's open to interpretation, or maybe it's madness trying to figure it out in the first place. Hmmmm....
Kwing have ya seen the deluxe batman killing joke, it has some controversy there too! How would ya feel on deluxe version of the movie with the added material of the deluxe killing joke comic added an stuff from movie added to comic?
At first I considered Killing Joke as my favorite animated DC Movie {I seen so far}
Others were Batman Beyond, Phantasm, and Flashpoint Paradox.
But after hearing fans of the comic and critics give their input on the movie, well for not reading the Killing Joke comic before, I just saw this movie as having a bone chilling third act. Some of the art that I bet was inspired directly to the comic looked amazing and maybe they could have stuck to that art a lot more often in the movie. I just look at it as another Batman cartoon.
Wait a minute, wasn't Batgirl 17 in this movie and Batman was 37?
Bruce said She was 18 or 19. But She has known him since She was 4 or 8.
+kwingsletsplays thank you, I was really confused on her age.
batgirl 23 batman 40
Luke....I just want to know one thing..how did Amber take it?
Not well.
+kwingsletsplays makes sense... It's disgusting.
+kwingsletsplays I'm pretty sure choking Bruce Timm wouldn't be a crime
+kwingsletsplays thanks for answering...I hope you both recover from this monstrocity.
@@kwingsletsplays jeez
i just noticed, when the screen has the laughing fish, there are Oscar Romero and Heath Ledger's Joker's right next to each other!
that is awesome! (top row, right side, Ledger is next to Jason Todd and Romero is next to beach Joker)
fun fact! the mask that Ledger wore during the heist scene of The Dark Knight was based upon the mask that Romero wore in the opera scene of Adam West's show which is shown on that screen! also the interpretation of Ledger's Joker is during the scene where Gordon becomes commissioner! i love this screen!
Loved the review knightwing. I am scared for this videos though, DC might take it down for copyright or something. I agree with everything that you said, I just wanted to point out one more thing. I felt that Kevin Conroy had no energy in this movie in particular. You showed clips from the animated the series, then I searched online some clips of Arkham Knight and City, Kevin Conroy is so much better in those performarces.
Not sure what really happened with this movie, directing seems like it is the real problem, but aside from Mark Hamill, all other actors didn't put too much energy in their performarces. Anyway, this is just my opinion.
They do tend to remove reviews, they don't agree with we'll see though.
for me after the batgirl prologue it was fine. not completely respectful of the original but still fair enough.
So they turn one of the greatest Batman comics of all time into one of the most dissapointing CBM's ever.
No the most disappointing was Bat Blood
They honestly should have done the Animated series method of voice acting. Have the Actors record thier lines, then animate. Allowing the actors to actually preform instead of keeping up with the reel. Notice how Joker is talking really fast during the "bad day" monologue. Mark is trying to keep up with the Movie.
So which is worse? This, or bad blood?
I honestly would have gave this a 10/10 if it was Night wing she did it with
"Those of you who were cool with the roof top scene are probably subconsciously cool with incest."
Bruce and Barbara aren't related. She and Nightwing are NOT teens in the movie. The plot is in no way intertwined with BTAS, nor does it have ANY effect outside of it's own universe. It's it's own story that leads into a version of The Killing Joke.
So, how is it incestual, when they aren't related, and consenting adults?
Answer me that. People will find things to bitch about whether they actually exit or they have to make them up to find flaws.
couldn't have said it better
Agreed
Bat-Family, Batman is supposed to be a paternal figure, not really much so of a romantic figure for Batgirl.
Man I can't understand what you are saying may you please explain?
It would be like having sex with your child's spouse, just creepy, I know that's not how this universe was, but that's how her character is everywhere else, so it's just creepy
WHY WASN'T JOKER STUTTERING WHEN HE TOLD THE JOKE?!?!?! The fact he is not stuttering makes him sound like he doesn't give a crap about it. In the graphic novel this ending is supposed to symbolize batman realizing he can't help Joker as he is too far gone beyond the brink, Joker knows he now gone too far and from this moment on batman will not hold back (after this comic barman nearly kills the Joker multiple times unlike before) and so they both share one last laugh... screw this movie.
My main issues were the the editing, voice direction and the useless prologue. This film should've been handled like a one-shot spectacular like the comic was, not just another film adaptation, it had no enthusiasm and it felt like no one cared. At least I've still can view the perfect version by reading the masterpiece comic by Alan Moore
Excellent review Kwing, after the first 30 minutes, the excitement vanished completely, I really don't know if I'll watch the movie ever again. btw, didn't you also say that Retrun of the Joker was one of Mark's best performance?
for the last time....ITS NOT INCEST! babs has a father, a great one in fact, BATMAN is not a father to her, more like a teacher, like a college teacher, and they made a choice that was hers and her alone to made, made me care about Babs a lot more than before (always been a fan of Cassie batgirl) I'm OK with this and how it was handled
He means bat family not relatives
+Kian King I know, but still not incest in the least
Its still creepy as hell though. Imagine banging your much older college professor. Honestly that's creepy as hell, (well to me at least).
+Shashank Gupta some woman have been doing that sort of thing for a while now, a grown woman has to the choice to sleep with whoever she wants, what gives us the right to judge them?
Lyndon Wellington Point taken. Not agreed with but taken.
I love the review Kwing. I'm so sorry to you and Amber....
I really wanna like this movie. I keep trying to force all.... THAT stuff out but really can't... Idk how to. I love the Joker, and I was so excited to see a movie showing how he was before the laughter ( maybe possibly, who actually knows, heck even the Joker doesn't even remember) Idk should I just try to like or push to away..Idk I just don't know.
+kNIGHTWING01 what do you think about "Batgirl #35" where she's wearing the purple leather jacket, and she and Black Canary are roommates? Cause I like it, alot! But I want to hear your opinion.
i think i wall ways knew that bruce tim would have barb and bruce hook up. have you seen bruce tim's art of the two
So was Batman meant to be the first guy or the second guy in Joker's joke?
Can someone explain the joke?
To be fair, if they took out the first 30 minutes or so, this movie wouldn't be half bad. BRAVO KWING, great review!!
13:17 I get what you're saying, but remember, Batgirl wasn't a character either in the original book. She was a plot device, and a classic example of 'Women in Refrigerators.' So while I understand your criticism with Batgirl comprising a half hour before The Joker (And believe me I've been there) at least they still tried to establish her character in contrast with the actual Killing Joke story.
I mean yeah, obviously it wasn't handled very well, but it did try to do so. Babara herself is not the problem, it's the overall context of the prologue itself that's the problem and unjusts the actual story. In fact you can say the events of the prologue also hurt Barbara as well as Batman and Joker in the actual story, since it makes it even more of a frigging.
(Also, this isn't suppose to connect to the DCAU universe.)
Should I get Arkham City or Arkham City Armerd Edition? What is the difference.
Armored Edition? The Wii U Game. it has all the DLC paid for and Batman had a Shock power.
So worth it, I take it.
If Timm connected it to TAS then that would mean Batman didn't kill the Joker.
The ending could be interpreted as Batman strangling the Joker to unconciousness but not crossing the line. Almost crossing it during his maniacal laughter but stopping himself. Which would have several implications in and of itself. He "almost" blinked.
Hey kwing love your videos quick suggestion in the future can you play spiderman web of shadows or hulk ultimate destination please thank you!!😊. Love the book joker is my favourite character of all time he's like my nightwing to you! Greetings from Ireland
I actually found the killing joke deluxe edition recently and got it all at Walmart it's pretty cool what's behind the cover that says it's name a picture of batman and joker fighting it was a really good book
they really ruined the movie
I always thought at the end of the book they share a laugh then batman grabs him by the coat and takes him to Arkham
I will like to but I can't find where it is
My favourite easter egg was Joker in the Ledger pose from the jail cell that you also see on the batcomputer screen.
so are you going to do a review of ep 1 of batman telltale
Well I could say it's not Batman & Robin bad. Is there a chance for you to review B&R?
compered to the original I don't know why but it looks like very little emotion was put in to the ending.
"I'd rather watch Batman: BAD BLOOD" 😂😂😂 that part killed me
Childhood ruined, Childhood ruiiiiiiiined.... if it wasn't ruined before, its ruined noooooooow.... XD
Your review is on point! Perfect review of the film, thank you!
The Killing Joke is my ultimate favourite comic book of all time and when I've heard that there would be an animated movie, I was on top of the world. I was hoping that the movie would let more people know about the Joker's backstory and way to insanity, why he is who he is, the terrible drama he went through, lost of his wife and future child. But instead, we've received a pure peace of garbage which had a twisted and stupid plot. The story was no longer about the Joker...
Very disappointed
are you going to play more uncharted remastered on the ps4
I went in really excited for the movie. And my excitement fizzled out with all the Batgirl stuff. I had to pause the movie after rooftop scene and ask why that was a thing. Picked up a bit when the actual Killing Joke stuff started to happen but it was a little late and the damage had been done. If I watch it again I'm skipping all the Batgirl stuff.
Hey Kwing, i downloaded the movie online then cut out the prologue, do you want me to send you the file?
Can I have one please Jacob chat
+Mason Fernandes if you give me your email
I already have my own rip of it. Starting when the Batmobile arrives in Arkham.
Bruce Timm needs to hook back up with Paul Dini because he's going way down hill!
Was there a hidden meaning behind Joker's joke..? I didnt understand it XD
so question to everyone: did you guys like the rendition of "I go Looney" during the madhouse ride? I know there's an audioplay or dramatic reading here on youtube where the team essentially set it to the tune of 'Always look on the bright side of life" - I'm not sure which version worked better. (obviously they couldn't set it to that song for royalty reasons)
Also, the animation for the carnies dancing during it felt lackluster.
I never read the graphic novel and I'm not seeing the movie because I knew it would suck. I'd rather watch Mask of the Phantasm, Batman Under the Red Hood, and even Batman Beyond Return of the Joker than this.
On the lafco scene, the upper left corner is from the Dark Knight Returns PT2 from the joker interview
I ignored the beginning when I got to joker's part and I didn't realize joker died
17:36 there was also a reference to Heath leadger's Joker in the top right
NewController01 and 1960s Batman in the top middle as well as the 1989 batman left to that
I'm probably going to watch the killing joke because it seems like it could be a good film (if you skip the first 30 minutes).
I just wanted to point out the nods to the Nicholson and Ledger Jokers on the Bat-computer. Just noticed them.
Wow, haven't watched a KWING review in YEARS. Glad to be back :'D
Cool welcome back attempting to resurrect Retro Mondays this Fall too
+kNIGHTWING01 wouldn't the laughing fish be ok because it's from a 70's detective comics storyline?
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it :'D
What the hell happened to batmans ears and while Barbra is in the hospital wat happened to her eye brows
Isn't Babs upright in Beyond though? No previous bullet in the spine?
Because this isn't in that canon
So what are your opinions of joker little musical number?
Wasn't bad. He signs in the comic.
The only good part of the film was the 30 Joker story, hate the Barbara part. Wouldn't you agree.
Sorry typo my bad I originally wrote the best part was the 30 mins of the Joker story but I got rid of that because there was more.
did any one see the reference from the dark Knight with the joker sitting in jail
He's even got a picture from the Joker's first commercial in the first Keaton movie.
Woah! I did not know about that beyond 2.0 thing and now I wish I didn't. That baby was Bruce's, right? 0~o
Hey kwing what channel will you upload batman telltale
Here
what was the playing at 18;16
I totally agree with your summery and opinion and even just getting rid of the first 30 min would make it more truthful to the comic but one point where oi disagree is the ending I thought they still made it kind of hard to know whether batman kill joker or not but turning that particular page In the book into a good would be hard considering that they had to have the jokers laughter cut off before batmans
What i also noticed is that a lot of the animation feels really choppy and flat. There hardly seems to be any real depth to the environments, and the characters all seem to walk through them like flat cardboards.
The movement of the characters lacked the sort of fluent movement that we're used to from the DCAU. So much animation felt like it lacked a lot of frames to make the animation look like real movement.
That's weird. For such an anticipated adaptation, and the fact that they showed it in theaters, you'd expect at least the animation to be top-notch, but it really was pretty mediocre, even for straight-2-DVD.
Kwing to tell you the truth I kind of liked the movie but the only part that I liked and think they portrayed correctly was the jokers part with his wife and the bar scenes. Thanks for the video and have a nice night! XD
To each his own, have a great day : )
KWING WHAT IS THE PIANO MUSIC YOURE USING?
Nice little nod to Heath Ledger at 17:30
are we going to watch Bad Blood
the picture of joker on the beach is the commercial from the Keaton movie
I tried to like this movie but after what you said and re reading the comic and lots of thinking, I felt empty, hurt and worst of all pissed. And yet DC comics allowed this to happen?
So does this mean Kwife has seen it or no? I thought it would be hilarious to have a reaction video of her watching it. (I hate those kind of videos but I would watch this one :) )
Actually, can someone make a better cut of this film? Maybe edit all the bad scenes in the films like the Barbara and Bruce relation ship in the beginning of the film?
I prefer the Motion Comic, it's here on RUclips and it's WAY better
+TheFedehugo I'll have to check that out
Can we just have a cut that only keeps the things from the original comic!?
The batgirl stuff was horrific but conroy and hammil both turned in fantastic performances and if I ever watched the movie again I'd definitely skip the batgirl stuff, if we pretend that didn't happen the movie isn't that bad
that's heath's joker beside jason todd right?
Is this movie better if you just skip the first thirty minutes?
They need to do an animated adaptation of Batman 3 Jokers. Get Conroy, hamill, strong, and ackles as red hood.
@kNIGHTWING01 isn't one of the pics from the obsession scene a play on the Burton "Brand X" commercial?
excellent eye
Thanks, I try. Must be just be the fledgling detective in me... ;)
Next up Batman and Harley quinn
I've read the comic and saw the movie and I thought it was just fine. You can't make a movie exactly the way the comic/book is. What's the fun in that?
If you hear very closely at the end of the movie when they zoom onto the water you hear a snap what I think is that batman snapped jokers neck
Oh really
The directors cut of BvS had roughly 30 mins of cut footage... Maybe if they make a directors cut of this, they could cut roughly 30 mins out
Didn't Jason death come after killing joke in the comics so why is Jason dead in the movie
After Zero Hour and Hush Jason's Death takes place before Killing Joke. Even in the New 52 it's structured that way. Most fans have just expected that.
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