Horten Ho. 229 - Hitler's UFO
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Possibly the strangest looking aircraft of WWII, the Horten 229 flying wing was discovered by US forces at the close of the war. Find out the full story here.
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The plane is so modern designed that it almost seems fake in every picture. Everything seems wayyy older that the plane.
Flying wings were being worked on by Northrop well before the Horten brothers started on the Ho 229. Flying wings were nothing new.
One should mention that the only surviving Horten 2 can be watched at the Technics Museum Berlin since 1994.
It's a 1937 Horten slightly different from this one. So, whenever you visit the city, the museum is a must-do.
Hey thsnx friend
Thank for the tip. I will check it out next time I am there
I might be wrong here, but none of the early versions V1 or V2 of this model design survived. What they have on display in Berlin is one of the types they made before this project, Horten HoIII (Ho 250) and its a glider, after all they had a wide variety of models prior to the Ho229 design (HoIV or Ho 251 is on display in Munich). Some of the models were with push type propeller engines, but most of them gliders... After the war Reimar Horten designed a cargo version in Argentina: Dinfia IA38 if your interested.
The elegance of this plane is stunning to this day.
Yes. Its a good thing they were too late. It wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the war, but they would have killed a lot of Allied airmen.
Colani Tower agreed
Colani Tower Like a stealth fly
Still must’ve been aggravating for the pilots used to using responsive rudders to have to use the horten’s airbrakes.
@Friendly Neigbourhood Sun Wheel The Black Sun
The Germans had some great aircraft designers.
German technology*exists*
The Allies : It's free real estate
"Yer can't be the only one pimpin them Hos now, ya digg ?" :T
German technology *exists*
Transmissions *break*
Useful weapons *uninvented*
Logistics *shit*
Strategy past the first month of combat *nonexistent*
Superiority of German engineering *about as real as the thousand years reich*
@@jb76489 germany had and still has the best engineers.
@@jb76489 and because that was the case we just dont use jet engines or flew to the moon. Sigh.
@@jb76489 bwahahahhahaah never read such bullshit before
The logistics became shit after the pushback on the eastern front, I'll give you that, but the rest was as good as it gets (except for strategy after Hitler thought it would be intelligent to ignore his experienced and unmatched generals and make himself head general. It wasn't.)
No matter if the Nazi ideology was a condemnable one: this aircraft continues to fascinate me. I hope that once a working reconstruction will take to the skies.
Why do I feel like I’ve seen these in Wolfenstein
Cuz there was a version off it in the game. Remember the opening with the planes?
I know at the end of medal of Honor Frontline you steal one!
I believe you see them pass over in that one diner part in 2
Because you did
It does look similar to the Cobra Rocket Plane featured in Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
Amazing. This would probably still result in ufo reports to this day.
most flying wing aircraft by the DOD still do. B2 regularly did before it was revealed, and even after.
@Edd 1 Exactly. Along with European countries near Germany also as they were putting various objects in the air during that time.
@Edd 1 not the case
@@b.griffin317 As did the F-117
@Edd 1 Either that or the Nothrop flying wings the US had before they ever saw the German designs.
I remember seeing that plane at Washington Dulles along with the Enola Gay! Always wondered what the backstory to it was. It looks 40 years ahead of its time.
This is by far the best quality history channel
I finally realized every time I've watched these vids on German weapon testing it's always cloudy and overcast. Then I had that Aha moment. They were probably trying to keep allied aircraft from photographing or attacking their prototype,s so they only brought them out when there was significant cloud cover.
I guess there's a reason that Germany is stereotypicaly seen as having hella engineers.
Jesus these germans were way ahead of their time, imagine if they were all build in pre-war era
If Batman had a plane.
Joseph Stalin he does its it’s called the batwing. proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffc00.deviantart.net%2Ffs36%2Ff%2F2008%2F261%2Fe%2F2%2FBatwing___Batman_The_Movie_by_Paul_Muad_Dib.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
He does. It's called 'Batplane', 'Batwing', 'Batjet' or 'Batgyro'.
...it would be old German technology.
Joseph Stalin he does,. Its called the **BATWING**
Mr Stalin don't you mean BLYATMAN?
Udvar-Hazy museum in Washington DC has 2 of the Horten aircraft. Amazing to see these ultra rare aircraft. I've been lucky enough to visit twice.
There is also a Me-163, Arado 234, and a Do 335 Pfeil.
I love that 2 seat Do 335
Two? Mark said only one was taken to the US, and the others destroyed.
Mugdorna The Do 335 Pfeil was built to be a RAF Mosquito killer.
@@marrioman13 ...it's a different model Horten
Do you have pictures? Id love to see them (and any japanese aircraft you may have seen)
Imagine the bomber crew seeing this
“oh look their 163's are back, and got bigger"
I was absolutely blown away when I got to see it in person. Absolutely amazing. The entire museum is.
Recent subscriber here and this channel is awesome. In my short time here I’ve come to the conclusion that WWII like all history is an onion but this is one of the few channels I’ve seen that goes in layers deep to uncover the stories within stories. Keep it up!
Dr. Felton these videos should be shown in every history classroom!
You’re going to defend Germany: Yay
In a brand new jet: Yay
Made of plywood: Nein 👎
Do you realize, that one of the best planes of WW2 is a fighter bomber of WW2 the "Mosquito" also completely, made out of wood.
Why not. The British Mosquito was partly built from wood. The German Ta-154 also used wood, as well as the He-162. The only problem was the glue that was used in the beginning.
At this time in a a not so far country named Great Britain.......
I have a new brand plane to crush nazis: Superb!!!
It is fast an furious: Exciting!!!!
An it is made of wood, we call´em Mosquito: I´m gonna look for some repelent, wait me....
worked for the British
Of course 1/3mm aviation steel is far more resilient against heavy machine guns.
Thank you so much for not calling it his "stealth" fighter. I have had WAY to many conversations about how there was no intent in making it stealthy. I will now be using this video to not have this conversation. THANK YOU!
First time I’ve seen film of a Horton flying
looks like RC
Always amazes me that the German High Command was ordering new aircraft such as this and the Natter, and other wunderweapons, as late as March 1945. How delusional were they?
Not delusional but desperate
2:50
The first jet plane/submarine in history.
The pilot looks weird lol
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Yes, that pressure suit does have a bit of Captain-Nemo-20000-leagues-under-the-sea look, doesn't it.
"we simply did not expect our Reich to collapse so quickly..
m.ruclips.net/video/dmiVDNRajhM/видео.html
Fuck you Neo Nazi fuck. I bet your not even Aryan, so you would be treated like a second class citizen lol
It was a quantum leap at the time & the "out of the box" thinking involved with this design is extraordinary .. German engineering :)
Germany wasn't the only nation trying flying wing aircraft. This didn't introduce anything new.
I find it to be more of a work of extraordinary engineers with impressive skills in working with what they have - they just happened to be German.
Gee, Reminds me of the Northrop N-1M/N-9M.
So why, if this plane was so fantastic, didn't the allies develop it after the war? I understand that it was because it was a death trap. UK test pilots did not consider it a good design. It had no cockpit floor (except for a canvas rag), not until the front undercart was retracted anyway. There were no partitions between the pilot and the engines. If one of the engines shed a turbine blade or two it's possible it could have 'shot' its own pilot. The noise inside would have been horrendous. There was a red hot oil pump fitted right behind the pilot. If a landing had been 'bumpy' there's a good chance the pilot would have been killed if not severely injured. Modelling the plane revealed that handling at high speeds would suddenly become unstable and shake the plane violently. This is why modern planes are long, not short and wide like the Horten. The Horten brothers were NOT plane designers, they were glider designers and that's why the Gotha engineers were horrified at the first designs and wanted to improve them - but were overridden by the authorities. Ref: Ho 229 'Spirit Of Thuringia' - Shepelev and Ottens, 2006. It's such a shame though. It really looks cool from the outside. I'm sure later versions, andif they had more time and resources, it could have been made into a good plane. But in the end the design concept was not a winner ... until the B2 of course!
If Germany had a fleet of these in 1940 that they shared with Japan we can easily imagine a Twilight Zone alternate ending to WWII.
Ahh yes.
One of my favourite jet planes
And one of my favourite planes to fly in War Thunder :3
First jet i unlocked lol
I will destroy you with my A2D-1
Lucky you. I'm still at Rank III, and jet are still very far away from me
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Nazi dorito
Glorious space dorito
Talk about cutting edge tech. Wow! Very informative video.
Gee, Reminds me of the Northrop N-1M/N-9M
Another great vid. Got to be one of the best historic docs on RUclips. I wonder if when the Americans shipped this plane back to the US for tests. It sparked the UFO phenomenon? Just a thought.
I remember flying it in Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe as Go 229.
Wow what an exceedingly strange Helmet design. Reminds me of old divers suits.
I became fascinated with the Horton back in the early 486 PC days with Lucasarts “Wings of the Luftwaffe”. It had an insert booklet with most of the info provided in your vid. As atrocious as the Nazis were the engineering ability of the German people was astounding. The 163, the 262 really stirred the imagination for me as a kid. Plus they just look wickedly kool. The Horton was always my favorite. I wish we could’ve seen what direction they would’ve headed without all the baggage of Hitler and whatnot.
Nice and informative contents as usual, thanks Mark :)
The benefit of having no vertical stabilizer is there's no control devices to run through the fuselage to the rear. That means you can fit more bombs into a smaller package. The Germans didn't have the advanced avionics needed to make their flying wing stable enough to fly it 1,000 km...
A typical German pilot at the time didn't have the necessary training to handle most of their advanced aircraft which makes you wonder who was in charge of things there. Who was going to fly these when by this time they were without skilled pilots in any significant numbers.
Quality content as always mark thanks for the vid
I am a simple man. I see a Mark Felton Productions video. Then I click on it to watch and leave a like!
This was by far my favorite plane to fly in the old LucasArts PC game Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
When you see zero comments
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The Triggered Gamer this has 69 likes. Nice
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Let's get this out on a tray
The moment you started talking about the 3X 1000 project and showed a picture of the Horten brothers, I got immediate flashbacks of Medal of Honor Frontline where I first heard of this aircraft
Beutifule aircraft
Can you imagine if nazi Germany had 5 more years?
They were super advanced on technology it's breath taking
yeah bro ,the wasnt no joke when it came to engineering.
Just John thank God they got rid of their Jewish intelligentsia. Imagine if they’d imprisoned Einstein and threatened his family to force him to comply.
Truly some amazing crafts and minds put at work, as quoted “right minds, wrong side”
Well their technology only advanced rapidly after 1941 when they felt like conventional means arent working out. Jet fighters were being tested even before WW2 in Germany but they werent given importance because they didnt seem to need it at that time and when the time came they didnt had the resources.
If they would of just delayed starting the war.
Thank you Mr.Felton. A gem of a channel!
Ah yes, I remember stealing one of these at the end of Medal of Honor: Frontline...
Also Warship Gunner II, they were the best planes to run off the carrier at land targets.
Dude! That pilot helmet is steampunk dope! I saw a horten plane in Argentina, he was sucessful glider builder.
Great channel! Good work!
This aircraft is a beauty and likely a model for many of the modern aircraft models.
If Hitler had applied Lenin’s dictum ‘There’s a special quality in quantity’ - I think all historical conversations would have been different........so many fantastic high end products.
Another good video from Mark Felton.Keep it up!
Left me wanting more. Good video.
Reimar Horten emigrated to Argentina. Designed and built gliders as well as a unique flying wing cargo plane. My father met him in the late 50s and many years later (after we emigrated to the US), dad built a r/c model of one of his designs.
His brother Walter served in the post-war Luftwaffe.
Do you narrate your own videos? If so, you have such an authoritative and composed delivery. Akin to an actual TV documentary.
Makes me wonder how stable the 229 was in flight. From what I remember, Northrop had ongoing issues with the XB-35/YB-49, and the B-2 requires computer assistance to remain stable. Such a neat aircraft all the same.
+Sterling Crockett No "229" flew, only the prototypes that were different designs. V1 glider - crashed and destroyed. V2 with jet engines - flew two hours testing and crashed and destroyed. The larger V3 that survives today never flew. This was not a mature design program, though the Hortens should be recognized for their work.
One of the most outstanding aircraft ever, a plane of true beauty, love the footage of it airborne Wow 😍
Captain Eric Brown RN was in the British team scouring post-War Germany for aviation tech, he said that they were 'shocked' by what they found, the sheer scale and state of German technology.
They were about a year away from air supremacy. Not sure about the oil situation, but the tech war was almost lost for the Allies.
I remember this mission in Medal of Honor
Tough one at first, but the end scene worth it.
Thank you for using both systems of measurement in your videos!!! I appreciate not having to always transpose.
Hier ein interessantes Buch zum Patentraub der Angloamerikaner: "BEUTELAND" von Bruno Bandulet.
Jede Medaille hat bekanntlich zwei Seiten.
Keep up the good work with these videos. Short and to the point.💯
I'm fascinated by the Horten, it had a shape that made it difficult for radar to detect nearly half a century before Stealth technology became a thing. The Horton Bros went into hydroelectric power after the war and their work in aviation ceased.
In the early 1990"s there was a computer video game from Lucas Arts called 'Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe'. The Ho.229 was a plane you could fly (though it was called the Gotha 229). The design and cockpit were an exact match to the original. I wish the game still played on my PC. It was one of my favorite.
Nice vid on this unusual aircraft, thank you.
May I suggest a video on the French occupation zone after the war. I've never read a thing about it.
Also, maybe something about French troops in the UK prior to D-Day; how many, problems with the Brits and Americans, etc.
That voice is so amazing I love it
What made the Horten special was the jet propulsion. Northrup was flying prototype flying wings in 1941-2
Wow, a service ceiling of 49,000 feet!?!? Would have been great for reconnaissance. Was there any Allied plane that could even get close to that altitude?
I always wanted to know about this bird since I knew it in Warthunder !
Thanks Mark ;)
50 years ahead of the competition at the time. magnificent machine.
Brilliant video and thanks for posting. I think you should present on the TV!
what a flight helmet !! whoa..very alien like /scuba diver / mechanical man ! Frankenstein he looks like all distorted by the glass helmet
I was thinking the same thing,it looks pretty archaic given the aircraft he's flying.
Perhaps they anticipated water landings.
I remember running across this in 1992, as part of LucasArts' "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe" PC game. Over the years, there have been Ho-223 documentaries of various kinds, suggesting that it was a "Stealth aircraft." One movie considered a multi-engined version as an "Amerika bomber," that could drop a radioactive sand "dirty bomb" on New York city, since regular "iron bombs" wouldn't have had a suitably terroristic effect on the U.S.
The center fuselage of one of the Hortens, was stored at Silver Hill, now "Paul E. Garber", during 1992, and 1993; while the Enola Gay was under restoration (and split into three sections). It was stored near the Arado AR 234, and the Convair Pogo; in a building where JFK's Convair CV-240 sat just outside.
If the Germans had used all their skills and ingenuity for peace time civilian developments at that time in history they could have bought the rest of the world they wanted.
They went that far ahead they were behind in some areas but they were desperate enough to take chances weapons that weren't ready her Frontline service into production
Another fascinating production Mark.
The "Hortons heard a Hoo"(229)
"HORTEN", not Horton.
Horten hears a Who....They used to have this at the Smithsonian annex warehouse in Suitland Maryland and i got to see it during a tour back in the 1990's
Now we need a video about Jack Northrop's small flying wings, and the bomber prototypes.
Mark you are amazing guy. Thank you, and greethings from Poland. Kris.
the germans were making new and advanced weapons till the last days on the war, but it was just too late for them , to change the fate of the conflict ...
This channel is like a fine wine, it gets better with age.
The Horton 229 matches the description of the "Flying Saucer" a newspaper article mis-coined a few years after WW2 in the US. The artist's conception of the aircraft a US pilot saw that started the "Flying Saucer" craze perfectly matches the Horton flying wing. The pilot that witnessed the plane flying over the Southwest US said that the plane flew like "a saucer skipping over water". A news reporter misquoted him as describing the aircraft as a "flying saucer".
Around that time, Jack Northrup - the aircraft engineer responsible for the flying wing YB-49, other flying wing aircraft design and whose company eventually developed the B-2 stealth bomber is also the one that proposed developing a secure airbase for testing and developing aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada (which is commonly referred to as "Area 51").
The only thing I don't like about these videos is they're too short! These are so high quality for RUclips documentaries.
This is such a pretty aircraft.
Could not wait for a Mark Felton Video!!!!
Mr. Felton, could you do a video on the Dirlewanger Brigade and also on Oskar Dirlewanger himself. Thank you for your amazing videos.
We all remember the kids' story "Horten Builds A What?"
Yes, but Horton was trying to save the world, not destroy it. :)
The THREE Horten Brothers were designers of extraordinary flying wing type gliders. When one of them died in service the two remaining began to think about saving their motherland by helping to develop a superior aircraft. And by god this thing was superior to anything even the Me 262.
Wonder what happened to these two designers after the war???!
According to this German documentary ( ruclips.net/video/oxlsrxrBW0A/видео.html ), the final assembly of the planes took place in a carpentry shop in Friedrichroda. Parts of the planes were made in a shut off railway tunnel (at 16:55). The boys in the beginning were the sons of the carpentry shop owner. The younger son was allowed to sit in the plane's cockpit by the German guards.The boys, who are obviously old men now, are also interviewed in the documentary.
I believe that the US found like the later Northrup Flying wings were unstable in combat maneuvers and were out classed by P-51s and P-80s. That is why the west or even the Russians never moved forward with the design. The YB -35 and YB-49s both proved the air craft unstable flying characteristics and it was not until the B-2 that a computer assisted flying system could be develop to take advantage of the nature of the flying wing.
I bet when people seen that they thought the aliens are invading 😂
Truly Fascinating Sir.
That pilot in the suit though... 😨
Nice wartime footage !
Thanks again Dr Felton ! First!
Great vid! Interesting to see a vid comparing Jack Northrops and Horton bros flying wing development. Thx!
ive been to the museum at dulles airport and saw the ho 229 and a german jet bomber they had in the works the arado
Another fascinating piece Mark, thank you. Yet, always strange seeing how quickly the American, Northrop YB 49 Flying Wing was developed shortly after the war and the history of its pre war inception and subsequent demise because of the American Military Industrial Complex.
Just imagine single winged planes filling the skies instead of the conventional design of two wings and a fuselage.
again a very interesting video, I would like to make a suggestion for a future video, the topic of 'Operation Paperclip' and similar programs of the British forces.
Looks suspiciously like what Kenneth Arnold reported seeing while flying past Mt. Rainier
The very best over-rated aircraft ever.
And the modern day B2 plane looks like what? This plane or the Northrup Co.'s flying wing? Memory is hazy.
Shouldn't it be mentioned that most of that black and white footage of the machine flying is actually a model aircraft flying quite recently?
How! It black and white film !