I’m still disappointed that the we didn’t have the option to fix up the USS Constitution for the Minutemen because a climatic airship battle between the Minutemen’s Constitution and the Brotherhood of Steel’s Prydwyn would’ve be epic.
I've been playing the game again recently doing the minutemens quest line and thought the same exact thing, it could have been an alternative to building the artillery and maybe even been incorporated into the artillery like maybe when the brother hood attacks the castle in retaliation the USS constitution shows up and helps defend the castle
Raiders: I'm fighting for food 😂 Brotherhood: I'm fighting for stability😊 Institute: I'm fighting for your end 😅 R.R: I'm fighting for my fucking life 😢
Did you know in Fallout 4 if you have the Creation Club addon that adds the X-02 power armor you can encounter Enclave remnants and even have the option to restore the Enclave radio
Nah many raider gangs are actually hostile to each other (in lore not game) so killing other raiders would actually still make a lot of sense and be cool
@@masterneloth or better a post game side quest where you are able to get almost every raider gang under you because of having possibly being a key factor to other factions being gone
To better explain, in the vanilla version, there were only really two options: Join the Institute or Go Against Them. This idea would overhaul the options, giving you the chance to take over all settlements, raider sites, and even Goodneighbor and Diamond City. The only way to get this ending however, would be you have to take on the full force of all other factions. it would be the most difficult ending to achieve. in a word, I want CHAOS.
My first playthrough I sided with the Institute thinking you’d be allowed to change their practices as the leader. Sucks that when you’re the “leader” in most Bethesda games (especially Skyrim and F4) you’re still just the lackey and you don’t get to change rules or do cool shit. Imagine if as the General you could actually order Minutemen to help settlements, and complete the quests that way. I also didn’t care for the radiant quests, if you kill 10,000 raiders they shouldn’t all be back occupying full force the next day.
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I went with the institute because of family and science. That and I installed a mod that would end their unethical practices. Only had to kill a few directors for it.
With the institute or against it is a narrow way of thinking about it. It's like going into an Italian restaurant and saying you're either eating spaghetti or not spaghetti. The ending of the game revolves around the Synth's. You either view them as machines and control them (institute), Free them as humans (railroad), destroy them and all other non humans / abominations (brotherhood).
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I haven’t played fallout 4, but it astounds me how much the community hates the Railroad, for essentially no reason whatsoever. Granted, fallout 4 fans seem to hate, like, EVERY faction in their game, and most players are just sadomasochistic evilmaxxers who torture NPCs to cope with the fact that they have no real friends and are suffering from severe GTD(Grass-touch depravity).
@@willc3697 Ehhh even as a supporter of the railroads beliefs, I know firsthand how stupid they can be. They hide in plain sight making it easy to find them and then get surprised when you do, and they are easily the weakest faction second only to the minute-men. They have a noble goal but their pursuit of it no matter what can be... catastrophic to say the least. I feel like they should've doubled down on the stealthy part of the faction, made them more spread out with even more underground safehouses like the brotherhood bunker from fonv, and they should've been smarter. 3/10 faction for me only held up by my love of synths and hatred for every other faction.
@@willc3697 it's not that the people hate all the factions, it's that they hate how Bethesda introduced them. They cut a lot of shit out of the game that every faction suffered for. The game isn't as great as it could be. I think everyone would love if we got the remaster we deserve, before they make the next instalment. But we have to contend with mods cuz that'll never happen until they want to revive that dead horse. Play it and make your own opinion. See if you'd agree
I did my own playthrough I was an institute sleeper agent, sent up to claim the nuka world raiders and use them as a "lawless" enforcer group for the Institute. Kidnappings and returns with odd behavior would be written off as Raider attacks and people dying was the raiders as well.
Yeah my character was also institute but then when i started nuka world dlc it felt so out of place to suddenly become a raider. So i had to make up my own headcannon to make sense of it all lolol
@@Jaymo00same, way I do it is side with the institute because the SS just wants his son. He could give a shit about the commonwealth, he tries to be decent enough but as he experiences the wasteland he loses his mind and when Saun dies that’s the last straw. Then joining the raiders and causing damage becomes nothing to him.
I always felt robbed there wasn't a raider ending where you figure out a way into the institute, and basically kill everybody and loot the place (We're raiders) and turn the institute into a new base of operations, fully schemed as a raider base (Crucifixes, burn barrels etc.)
The nuka world raiders are fallout 4s answer to the question: Can we have a wild card ending like in new vegas? And before you ask automaton perfectly synergizes with the dlc so you can make your death bot army at your descretion
@@bluemrgutsy6288 you can, just keep all the bots at the mechanist lair until taking over settlements as raider outposts so you can send sentry bots and whatnot there as settlers
When I first played this game when I was like 15, I thought the Father thing was cheesey. I had no hesitation gunning him the fuck down. Chock one up for the Minutemen! Union forever! After going through COVID, and just getting a bit older (I can drink now lol)...I don't think I'm so quick to shoot Shaun. I understand the meaning of family a bit more. I'm not a father, but I'm a son. COVID had me constantly worried about my family, terrified my grandparents or aging mother and father might bite the dust at a moments notice. Seeing and hearing Nate's reactions to the loss of his family...I understand a bit now. Seeing the vast knowledge and complete safety the institute offers, never having to have to need to pay for my insurance or bills, never having to worry if I've got to pay rent, having an army of servants to assist you in dedicating your life to learning and the pursuit of knowledge... The institute is wrong. It's evil. However... it's tempting. It really is. How often in history has injustice, systemic or otherwise, been ignored for security. I'm sure we all participate in it every day, buying from stores that don't produce stuff ethically because it provides convenience. In a post apocalyptis, how many of us would be willing to justify slavery and unethical science just so we could get into the Institute and never have to wonder if a supermutant is going to beat us to death while we sleep?
once i was teleported there, i ended them all ... i was walking around coomonwealth, a synth jumped out from behind corner and attacked me ... i took it as declaration of war, so i responded with utmost violence
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I would always make my deathbots into my supply lines. Sure; that's a lot of resources in the end, but I like to think my bots are out there exterminating everything on the roads as they make their deliveries
Dunno bout BOS but there is a mod where if you're general of the MM you can "take" Nuka World you call in 25-125 minuteman troops (depending on settlement number I think) n f up the raiders... I do it at the end of nuka world so I get the most out of a playthrough 😊 this has the added benefit of not pissing Preston off as well.
"I don't want peace. I want problems! Always!" Basically, I want endless war. To trick all of the factions to distrust one another just enough so as neither would win, nor would they lose. Diamond city, for one, would become no man's land.
At the very beginning of the game, I think you should be able to side with the raiders against the minutemen at the museum. If you side with the minutemen the game is the way it was always, but if you side with the raiders the settlement system is changed. Instead of building settlements for the minutemen, you now build raider settlements, and enslave settlers.
Would the legion even want them, remember the fiends got killed off by themin some endings and the nuka world raiders are just a more organised and better trained version of them and also a giant chunk of the raiders would become slaves since the disciples are mainly female the operators have a female leader so they would probably not take that well and that just leaves the pack
Oh good heavens a guy in shitty armor that wants to fuck vending machines is charging towards me lucky for me i can just curb stomp him into the ground since we are all in power armor
I mean if the Institute starts to lose they just teleports down there again and just waits lol. Probably shoring their defenses and patched up any lose ends quickly
Personally, I always thought it would be awesome if you could give the interceptor blueprints to Gage or Red-eye and then have raiders take over the institute, making it their new home. Then you have the end game goals of defending your home from the Brotherhood, Minutemen, and Railroad. You could force scientists to make new weapons, or build a synth raider army, there is so much potential.
The fact that we can't even take over Dimond City as the Nuka World raiders is borderline sacrilegious in my opinion. It would have been the perfect ending to the DLC I think, with you wiping out the minutemen in their "heroic last stand"
Thing is, this goes against their very nature. Raiders in Fallout are just too high or oblivious to organize in such scale. Now, an organized tribe that ocasionally engage in raiding (like the Khans), that could work. But this concept is too OG Fallout for Bethesda to consider.
For normal commonwealth raiders sure i get that but the nuka world raiders are a cut above your average raider i think given enough time, prep and know how they could take over eventually, and i personally think it would be awesome if when you manged to get all the settlements under raider control a quest would start so that you could lead a massive raid on diamond city
As Institute Leader you should be able to incorporate the Nuka World Gangs to create a technologically advanced version of Caesars Legion from New Vegas; have alternate Institute Sectors in charge of the factions. Would likely cause infighting after a few decades splitting the groups into Warring Tribes with psychotic murderous synths with deranged handlers +teleportation +other advanced tech eventually causing World War 4. Of course only occurring after they wiped out the remaining Brotherhood, NCR, Enclave etc.
Me after bringing Operators and Disciples to the wasteland and overthrowing the Minutemen, then wiping out the Brotherhood with support from Operators especially and the Disciples... " Spread the word " - in captured territories.
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
Even as someone who likes the railroad, I really do agree that they’re best off hiding in this situation. A guerrilla group isn’t cut out for that kind of fight.
End the game with the railroad, destroy both institute and the brotherhood, never meet preston and the minutemen. Once the institute blowns up massacre the railroad, then side with the raiders and attack bunker hill, killing every escaped synth, now nobody can stop you and the raiders.
Ive never seen liberty prime fight a behemoth. That was just perfect, he puts more effort into fighting radroaches than fighting behemoths. Dude literally uses nukes and death lasers to kill a bug, and then just says no to a behemoth.
You know what's funny is that in Vanilla you can join the Raiders but still be the Minutemen General only difference is Preston will hate you but not enough to stop marking settlements on your map
laziness at its finest since the raiders are basically evil minutemen and minutemen also hate raiders, then the faction could be replaced preston could order the rest of the minutemen to attack the player and also send a message to all minutemen settlements that the general betrayed them all resulting in the extermination of that faction and then instead of destroying the institute, the nuka raiders could plunder anything that's even remotely useful: technology, fancy gizmos and anything even remotely interesting or useful to anyone and turning the institute into a commonwealth raider hub any generic non nuka raiders could be recruited to any of the three gangs, increasing their numbers or recruited as guards of the repurposed institute the scientists would probably do slave labor for the sole survivor in exchange for protection, resulting in unique gear i know that raiders aren't exactly smart but this could be sidestepped by having gage, the operators or disciples telling the player that they found some fancy blueprints showing a thing potentially capable of teleportarion and tell the overboss that this might be the solution to accessing this institute they keep hearing so much about but the sole survivor might also be a problem here nate was a war veteran and nora was a *lawyer* so this would be kinda ridiculous that the good guys are leading a raider army but then again this wasn't the issue to bethesda so what do i know
@Space Ace PL Fallout 4's biggest issue was perhaps having a pre established character with a well defined backstory in a game where it's supposed to be a blank slate the player can add onto
@@izunia8436 exactly while fallout new vegas also shows the courier's backstory throughout the game as well as in lonesome road, many of the pieces of dialogue are just optional we do not know for sure if the courier was male or female hell, we don't know if the male courier had sex somewhere in montana or if the female courier seduced benny and in case of new vegas, it's not shoved down your throat meanwhile in concord, massachusetts a lawyer and a war veteran get ready to spend their day with their baby and we can already see the characters' personalities as well as the small things, like their sexual orientation, which doesn't really let people actually *be* them and besides a lawyer wouldn't have known how to use power armour like a war veteran would
@@spaceacepl4636 I think the Courier's backstory might not even be accurate as Ulysses seems very unhinged and possibly crazy from being in an irradiated place for so long iirc there's no evidence that we created the divide besides Ulysses saying so
@@izunia8436 hell, if we assume ulysses was at least partially true then the courier didn't even know about the contents of the package iirc it's the NCR's fault that the divide is what it is today they activated the detonator
Railroad ending underrated, you keep vertiberd signals, none of them are essential after you wipe out the institute and brotherhood and you can just forget about Garvey
The brotherhood can't deploy Liberty Prime without the player, and the Minuteman cannot use artillery guns as well because the player has to clear the fort to get the schematics.
I can imagine an all out war between the Minutemen, Brotherhood, Institute, and Raiders. Pretty much all four factions will meet up a major landmark in the Commonwealth such a Diamond City or Bunker Hill. They will have an all out brawl. After they claim one of these settlements, the factions will start to try and take over other factions HQ. I can imagine a full scale raid on the Castle with Raiders storming from the collapsed wall, Synths relaying in, and Virtibirds flying towards the Castle. Oh it would be epic!
Oh I do this in my games quite often, I like to look at it as the extent of going mad in the wasteland, between all of the death gore and rads once the soul survivor hits the park he goes mad and becomes a raider completely and takes over all of the commonwealth for the raiders
My next playthrough is totally gonna be an institute agent who uses raider gangs to keep the Commonwealth chaotic enough that the Institute can do whatever the fuck they want with no pushback. Along with some HEAVY use of headcanon, to make the institute more fun to side with...
In this scenario I always feel like the Railroad and Minutemen would team up with the Railroad running interference and espionage maybe we would have to suss out spies in the Raider groups
I always thought there should be a way to keep all three factions. I mean, the operators only care about money. Give them the bottling plant and control of Fizz top mountain. The pack gets 2, the disciples get two and everyone is happy. All out war at the end is not trash idea. It's pretty common sense really. After all, War...war never changes.
I’m on a survival playthrough where I hit lvl50+ and collected every perk mag and bobblehead that didn’t require a quest to get. Got them all without even saying hi to Codsworth or triggering any main quests. Including bumping into Piper or the MM. Went to Nuka-World and am turning the commonwealth into a raiders paradise before I even go home to look for Shawn. The raider plot aside, I’ve always thought avoiding major quests for a while tracks with what the lone wanderer might actually do, they would desperately scour the commonwealth for any sign of Shaun before they start running factions. They might give up after awhile (collecting perks and grinding legendaries) and head home for any clues, that’s when they find Codsworth and the plot can start.
Why do I feel like the final stand of the factions against the raiders would be them setting aside their differences to not get absolutely annihilated, or them being so unwilling to they end up in a massive conflict amongst each other as the raiders roll in and destroy the last of them?
Im sitting here going, "I like this, but dont diss the Railroad like that." They may not have the numbers of the Brotherhood, but they have solid armor and good firepower. They could definitely be a threat in the ensuing chaos, especially if they get their hands on some handmade rifles. Deacon with one of those could be crazy dangerous.
The ability to tell a certain minuteman to go and X himself or take with him 3-4 minuteman AND help a settlement. NPC restock, have supply and ammo boxes that settlement NPC Can use when they have been given superior weapons or have the need to fix their equipment. Settlements with a certain strength and defensive capabilities makes it less likely to lose when being raided. WALL CLICK !
I wish there was an ending where you attack the institute with the raider’s faction , where the Overboss/sole survivor tells them how the institute is filled with all kind of amazing resources , and how they’re basically competition as well , since the raiders want to take over the commonwealth and the institute are in the way
You can't encounter the Brotherhood Prydwyn if you never find Kellogg. This means no Liberty Prime. You need to save Preston and retake The Castle for artillery.
"Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should". GLAD that I couldn't, I REALLY don't want to see my character INTENTIONALLY FALL deeper down the rabbit hole, considering that your character is a parent who has LOST the ability to raise their child themselves to a bunch of SOULESS scientists. I never wanted to entertain the idea of succumbing to evil so the first quest I undertook when I first arrive in Nuka World was to go "Wabbit/Duck Season".
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Never seen a behemoth get their shit rocked that hard.
Fucking class.
I've never seen liberty prime pick up a behemoth and snap it next before... That was a shocker.
I've played the BOS ending a few times I've seen liberty prime do some wild shit
It's beautiful when you are close I just finished prime yesterday and watched him power slam the behemoth into the bridge I was shocked
It really makes you think what would’ve happened if the bombs hadn’t dropped so soon, they drop liberty prime into china and this stuff happens.
It made me feel things
I’m still disappointed that the we didn’t have the option to fix up the USS Constitution for the Minutemen because a climatic airship battle between the Minutemen’s Constitution and the Brotherhood of Steel’s Prydwyn would’ve be epic.
I would see it more funny, imagine a flying ship going to crash the prydwen and the minutemen in the USS constitution make a boarding
I've been playing the game again recently doing the minutemens quest line and thought the same exact thing, it could have been an alternative to building the artillery and maybe even been incorporated into the artillery like maybe when the brother hood attacks the castle in retaliation the USS constitution shows up and helps defend the castle
@@anonymous___vibes4415exactly.
Imagine the USS constitution being part of the minuteman, parked next to the castle
@@thejuicyorange8526So, a giant "Hit me with artillery" sign?
and at the end of the game the Raiders will become what they despise the most in organized government
But at least there will be copious amounts of drugs.
@@xxXXRAPXXxx so this theoretical ending indicates that the commonwealth will die out due to Chem overdoses.
@@xxXXRAPXXxxJust like real life
@@xxXXRAPXXxxlike he said a normal organized government
@@xxXXRAPXXxx "there's always room for drugs" - Sassy, probably.
Raiders: I'm fighting for food 😂
Brotherhood: I'm fighting for stability😊
Institute: I'm fighting for your end 😅
R.R: I'm fighting for my fucking life 😢
Minutemen: I'm fighting for another settlement that needs your help, here I will mark it on your map🛖
Sole survivor:im bored so im gonna create robots and enslave deathclaws and everything else
Did you know in Fallout 4 if you have the Creation Club addon that adds the X-02 power armor you can encounter Enclave remnants and even have the option to restore the Enclave radio
@@bconroy328*PTSD INTENSIFIES*
@@bconroy328you stole my idea
I hope someone makes a mod where if you're Overboss raiders in the base game map are friendly
Nah many raider gangs are actually hostile to each other (in lore not game) so killing other raiders would actually still make a lot of sense and be cool
@@masterneloth or better a post game side quest where you are able to get almost every raider gang under you because of having possibly being a key factor to other factions being gone
Ngl, i kinda want it where if youre male, you can seduce named female raiders to join your cause instead
I always wanted an opinion to join the raiders in the base game, period. Or the gunners.
To better explain, in the vanilla version, there were only really two options: Join the Institute or Go Against Them. This idea would overhaul the options, giving you the chance to take over all settlements, raider sites, and even Goodneighbor and Diamond City. The only way to get this ending however, would be you have to take on the full force of all other factions. it would be the most difficult ending to achieve. in a word, I want CHAOS.
My first playthrough I sided with the Institute thinking you’d be allowed to change their practices as the leader. Sucks that when you’re the “leader” in most Bethesda games (especially Skyrim and F4) you’re still just the lackey and you don’t get to change rules or do cool shit. Imagine if as the General you could actually order Minutemen to help settlements, and complete the quests that way. I also didn’t care for the radiant quests, if you kill 10,000 raiders they shouldn’t all be back occupying full force the next day.
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I went with the institute because of family and science. That and I installed a mod that would end their unethical practices. Only had to kill a few directors for it.
With the institute or against it is a narrow way of thinking about it. It's like going into an Italian restaurant and saying you're either eating spaghetti or not spaghetti. The ending of the game revolves around the Synth's. You either view them as machines and control them (institute), Free them as humans (railroad), destroy them and all other non humans / abominations (brotherhood).
@@BooTeaCheeks replace rail roud with minutman and its gold
As mama Murphy puts it “you’ll save the world but everyone will hate you for it” referring to the institute
I love me some good railroad slander
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I haven’t played fallout 4, but it astounds me how much the community hates the Railroad, for essentially no reason whatsoever. Granted, fallout 4 fans seem to hate, like, EVERY faction in their game, and most players are just sadomasochistic evilmaxxers who torture NPCs to cope with the fact that they have no real friends and are suffering from severe GTD(Grass-touch depravity).
@@willc3697 Ehhh even as a supporter of the railroads beliefs, I know firsthand how stupid they can be. They hide in plain sight making it easy to find them and then get surprised when you do, and they are easily the weakest faction second only to the minute-men. They have a noble goal but their pursuit of it no matter what can be... catastrophic to say the least. I feel like they should've doubled down on the stealthy part of the faction, made them more spread out with even more underground safehouses like the brotherhood bunker from fonv, and they should've been smarter. 3/10 faction for me only held up by my love of synths and hatred for every other faction.
@@willc3697 it's not that the people hate all the factions, it's that they hate how Bethesda introduced them. They cut a lot of shit out of the game that every faction suffered for. The game isn't as great as it could be. I think everyone would love if we got the remaster we deserve, before they make the next instalment. But we have to contend with mods cuz that'll never happen until they want to revive that dead horse. Play it and make your own opinion. See if you'd agree
@@willc3697I reload saves because I don’t to hurt the fictional characters feelings. The railroad are totally lame and gay though
I did my own playthrough I was an institute sleeper agent, sent up to claim the nuka world raiders and use them as a "lawless" enforcer group for the Institute. Kidnappings and returns with odd behavior would be written off as Raider attacks and people dying was the raiders as well.
Yeah my character was also institute but then when i started nuka world dlc it felt so out of place to suddenly become a raider. So i had to make up my own headcannon to make sense of it all lolol
@@Jaymo00same, way I do it is side with the institute because the SS just wants his son. He could give a shit about the commonwealth, he tries to be decent enough but as he experiences the wasteland he loses his mind and when Saun dies that’s the last straw. Then joining the raiders and causing damage becomes nothing to him.
Been spending most their lives livin in a raider’s paradise
I always felt robbed there wasn't a raider ending where you figure out a way into the institute, and basically kill everybody and loot the place (We're raiders) and turn the institute into a new base of operations, fully schemed as a raider base (Crucifixes, burn barrels etc.)
Highly unlikely in the real world it wouldn’t happen just like the railroad wouldn’t beat them or the brotherhood realistically either
@@UserNotFound55414so is all of the alien stuff, or the Courier surviving a gunshot to the head, or radiation creating giant scorpions...
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An elbow drop from liberty prime i want to see that happen
The nuka world raiders are fallout 4s answer to the question: Can we have a wild card ending like in new vegas?
And before you ask automaton perfectly synergizes with the dlc so you can make your death bot army at your descretion
It would be nice though if you had an option to kill the mechanist and make a more powerful robot army to take the commonwealth for you or a faction
@@bluemrgutsy6288 you can, just keep all the bots at the mechanist lair until taking over settlements as raider outposts so you can send sentry bots and whatnot there as settlers
@@blastovich That's a pretty interesting idea for a rust devil playthrough I like it.
When I first played this game when I was like 15, I thought the Father thing was cheesey. I had no hesitation gunning him the fuck down. Chock one up for the Minutemen! Union forever!
After going through COVID, and just getting a bit older (I can drink now lol)...I don't think I'm so quick to shoot Shaun. I understand the meaning of family a bit more. I'm not a father, but I'm a son. COVID had me constantly worried about my family, terrified my grandparents or aging mother and father might bite the dust at a moments notice. Seeing and hearing Nate's reactions to the loss of his family...I understand a bit now.
Seeing the vast knowledge and complete safety the institute offers, never having to have to need to pay for my insurance or bills, never having to worry if I've got to pay rent, having an army of servants to assist you in dedicating your life to learning and the pursuit of knowledge...
The institute is wrong. It's evil. However... it's tempting. It really is. How often in history has injustice, systemic or otherwise, been ignored for security. I'm sure we all participate in it every day, buying from stores that don't produce stuff ethically because it provides convenience. In a post apocalyptis, how many of us would be willing to justify slavery and unethical science just so we could get into the Institute and never have to wonder if a supermutant is going to beat us to death while we sleep?
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once i was teleported there, i ended them all ... i was walking around coomonwealth, a synth jumped out from behind corner and attacked me ... i took it as declaration of war, so i responded with utmost violence
If I new how to make mods, I would attempt this
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
I would always make my deathbots into my supply lines. Sure; that's a lot of resources in the end, but I like to think my bots are out there exterminating everything on the roads as they make their deliveries
I can't even open the screen to the Commonwealth when using that modders app on Steam... it's so complicated!
maybe there could even be an option where the Minutemen and Brotherhood end up teaming up to fight the Raider Factions from Nuka-World
Dunno bout BOS but there is a mod where if you're general of the MM you can "take" Nuka World you call in 25-125 minuteman troops (depending on settlement number I think) n f up the raiders... I do it at the end of nuka world so I get the most out of a playthrough 😊 this has the added benefit of not pissing Preston off as well.
"I don't want peace. I want problems! Always!"
Basically, I want endless war. To trick all of the factions to distrust one another just enough so as neither would win, nor would they lose.
Diamond city, for one, would become no man's land.
Bro wants Outer Heaven...
Going POSTAL
At the very beginning of the game, I think you should be able to side with the raiders against the minutemen at the museum.
If you side with the minutemen the game is the way it was always, but if you side with the raiders the settlement system is changed. Instead of building settlements for the minutemen, you now build raider settlements, and enslave settlers.
That's one thing I've always been disappointed on, never having the ability to enslave anyone you want.
Or joining the Enclave, I've always wanted to have an Enclave playthrough.
Caesers Legion did it, why can't I? @@Nate-bn5kk
@@hnnhgh Right! Why does he get to have all the fun??
@@Nate-bn5kk RETRIBUTION! HUAAAH!
Follow up idea: in this ending you recieve a broadcast from the western wasteland, inviting you to join the legion or die.
Would the legion even want them, remember the fiends got killed off by themin some endings and the nuka world raiders are just a more organised and better trained version of them and also a giant chunk of the raiders would become slaves since the disciples are mainly female the operators have a female leader so they would probably not take that well and that just leaves the pack
The Nuka raiders would ruin caesars soyboys no diff lmao
We keep spending most our lives living in a raiders paradise
That sounds like you should consult a competent modder immediately, i want this
Bethesda - That's too much choice in a roleplaying game
>their best bet is hiding
Yeah, they're a guerrilla movement lmao
Oh good heavens a guy in shitty armor that wants to fuck vending machines is charging towards me lucky for me i can just curb stomp him into the ground since we are all in power armor
I mean if the Institute starts to lose they just teleports down there again and just waits lol. Probably shoring their defenses and patched up any lose ends quickly
*[THE LAST DOMINO FALLS HERE.]*
Personally, I always thought it would be awesome if you could give the interceptor blueprints to Gage or Red-eye and then have raiders take over the institute, making it their new home. Then you have the end game goals of defending your home from the Brotherhood, Minutemen, and Railroad.
You could force scientists to make new weapons, or build a synth raider army, there is so much potential.
That Railroad meme makes me wanna destroy Railroad again 😛
Dew it
Yeah cause people fighting for equality definitely deserve to be destroyed
Stupid railroad
there is, or was, a mod for that. dont know if its still there. but there was one
The fact that we can't even take over Dimond City as the Nuka World raiders is borderline sacrilegious in my opinion. It would have been the perfect ending to the DLC I think, with you wiping out the minutemen in their "heroic last stand"
Been spending most our lives, livin in a raiders, paradise!
i hate the raiders and would never join 'em, but i think this is a great idea. should be an option
same here i look at the raiders os nuka world and think oh i gonna level up so much!
You did the railroad so dirty. Also, that sounds like a good idea.
The RR don’t care about humans so I wouldn’t say it’s too dirty
@@AdVictoriamBOSI mean you're not wrong...
Liberty prime said "puny god" to that behemoth
“Been spendin’ most their lives living in a RAIDERS paradise.”
Someone should definitely make this idea into a mod, with all the AI voices we have now it could be something amazing
“an elbow drop from from liberty prime”
*meanwhile bro casually picks up and tosses a behemoth like trash* 😳
If raiders win, then they lose because there is nobody to rob.
Thing is, this goes against their very nature. Raiders in Fallout are just too high or oblivious to organize in such scale. Now, an organized tribe that ocasionally engage in raiding (like the Khans), that could work. But this concept is too OG Fallout for Bethesda to consider.
For normal commonwealth raiders sure i get that but the nuka world raiders are a cut above your average raider i think given enough time, prep and know how they could take over eventually, and i personally think it would be awesome if when you manged to get all the settlements under raider control a quest would start so that you could lead a massive raid on diamond city
I have a mod called EVERY NPC IS PRESTON GARVEY. Maybe something with that?
To clarify, I have it INSTALLED. It’s not my creation. God know I wish it was…
Liberty Prime was so disrespectful for that move, wtf?!
The brotherhood are the villains of 4
“But that’s just my trash idea”
*Proceeds to drop a fucking masterpiece*
As Institute Leader you should be able to incorporate the Nuka World Gangs to create a technologically advanced version of Caesars Legion from New Vegas; have alternate Institute Sectors in charge of the factions.
Would likely cause infighting after a few decades splitting the groups into Warring Tribes with psychotic murderous synths with deranged handlers +teleportation +other advanced tech eventually causing World War 4.
Of course only occurring after they wiped out the remaining Brotherhood, NCR, Enclave etc.
Bevause of your i now can't get the image of Libert prime dropping a WWE style elbow on some poor unlucky raider
Me after bringing Operators and Disciples to the wasteland and overthrowing the Minutemen, then wiping out the Brotherhood with support from Operators especially and the Disciples... " Spread the word " - in captured territories.
How about that, plus if you choose the hour boys or the sisterhood of iron, you could take over nuka world and have two ways to restore it. Both the a track or set of tracks made of steel rails along which passenger and freight trains run and the League of extraordinarily stupid people can still fuck off. This is SaneDeerVroom tuning in.
Even as someone who likes the railroad, I really do agree that they’re best off hiding in this situation. A guerrilla group isn’t cut out for that kind of fight.
My man I think you are giving the minutemen too mutch credit, witouth you as the general preston would've died in the museum no question
Mabey the sole survivor still helped Preston get to sanctuary and then continued on there way?
Nothing defines Bethesda more than missed potential. Fallout 4 could have been so much better if they actually put the effort into it
Railroad Ballistic Weave is the shyt
“The niga world raiders”
End the game with the railroad, destroy both institute and the brotherhood, never meet preston and the minutemen. Once the institute blowns up massacre the railroad, then side with the raiders and attack bunker hill, killing every escaped synth, now nobody can stop you and the raiders.
Trash idea you say? Bull crap that’s a really good idea.
[Cait and Maccready loved that]
[Most other companions hated that]
In comes Heath Ledger we live in a society. I am an agent of chaos
Ive never seen liberty prime fight a behemoth. That was just perfect, he puts more effort into fighting radroaches than fighting behemoths. Dude literally uses nukes and death lasers to kill a bug, and then just says no to a behemoth.
You know what's funny is that in Vanilla you can join the Raiders but still be the Minutemen General only difference is Preston will hate you but not enough to stop marking settlements on your map
laziness at its finest
since the raiders are basically evil minutemen and minutemen also hate raiders, then the faction could be replaced
preston could order the rest of the minutemen to attack the player and also send a message to all minutemen settlements that the general betrayed them all resulting in the extermination of that faction and then instead of destroying the institute, the nuka raiders could plunder anything that's even remotely useful: technology, fancy gizmos and anything even remotely interesting or useful to anyone and turning the institute into a commonwealth raider hub
any generic non nuka raiders could be recruited to any of the three gangs, increasing their numbers or recruited as guards of the repurposed institute
the scientists would probably do slave labor for the sole survivor in exchange for protection, resulting in unique gear
i know that raiders aren't exactly smart but this could be sidestepped by having gage, the operators or disciples telling the player that they found some fancy blueprints showing a thing potentially capable of teleportarion and tell the overboss that this might be the solution to accessing this institute they keep hearing so much about
but the sole survivor might also be a problem here
nate was a war veteran and nora was a *lawyer* so this would be kinda ridiculous that the good guys are leading a raider army
but then again this wasn't the issue to bethesda so what do i know
@Space Ace PL Fallout 4's biggest issue was perhaps having a pre established character with a well defined backstory in a game where it's supposed to be a blank slate the player can add onto
@@izunia8436 exactly
while fallout new vegas also shows the courier's backstory throughout the game as well as in lonesome road, many of the pieces of dialogue are just optional
we do not know for sure if the courier was male or female
hell, we don't know if the male courier had sex somewhere in montana or if the female courier seduced benny
and in case of new vegas, it's not shoved down your throat
meanwhile in concord, massachusetts a lawyer and a war veteran get ready to spend their day with their baby
and we can already see the characters' personalities as well as the small things, like their sexual orientation, which doesn't really let people actually *be* them
and besides
a lawyer wouldn't have known how to use power armour like a war veteran would
@@spaceacepl4636 I think the Courier's backstory might not even be accurate as Ulysses seems very unhinged and possibly crazy from being in an irradiated place for so long iirc there's no evidence that we created the divide besides Ulysses saying so
@@izunia8436 hell, if we assume ulysses was at least partially true then the courier didn't even know about the contents of the package
iirc it's the NCR's fault that the divide is what it is today
they activated the detonator
that’d be an insane mod idea my guy
Bro checked that behemoth like a stop watch
Been living most of their lives living in a raider's paradise
The nuka world raiders are the best faction in fallout 4
The enclave comes back and whoops everyone’s ass now that plot armor is not a guarantee
The railroad didn't have a bad idea, hide inside and let your enemies take each other out😂
There should have been an alternate option in Skyrim to install Balgruf to the high throne and duck the civil war right off, imo.
I just assigned my gang to run a commonwealth settlement for the first time I didn’t know Preston would I insta-hate me lol
I was really expecting a full video about this to be on your RUclips, with the way you talked about it.
That’s fucking horrible and terrifying…..LETS DO IT RAAAAIDERS RAAAIDERS WHOOOO
The factions would probably tear each other apart once they get too big
because war never changes
Railroad ending underrated, you keep vertiberd signals, none of them are essential after you wipe out the institute and brotherhood and you can just forget about Garvey
The brotherhood can't deploy Liberty Prime without the player, and the Minuteman cannot use artillery guns as well because the player has to clear the fort to get the schematics.
I can imagine an all out war between the Minutemen, Brotherhood, Institute, and Raiders. Pretty much all four factions will meet up a major landmark in the Commonwealth such a Diamond City or Bunker Hill. They will have an all out brawl. After they claim one of these settlements, the factions will start to try and take over other factions HQ. I can imagine a full scale raid on the Castle with Raiders storming from the collapsed wall, Synths relaying in, and Virtibirds flying towards the Castle. Oh it would be epic!
If a grease monkey from the Minuteman can make a teleporter then I'm convinced anyone from The Operators can make a fucking teleporter
This is the greatest idea for A mod I've heard an a long time.
I can't wait to attempt and fail to make it.
I still say they should have made the Gunners a joinable faction
Oh I do this in my games quite often, I like to look at it as the extent of going mad in the wasteland, between all of the death gore and rads once the soul survivor hits the park he goes mad and becomes a raider completely and takes over all of the commonwealth for the raiders
A raider vertiberd getting rko'ed by liberty prime is a sight to see
That would’ve take the DLC to the next level, adding a whole other alternate ending like that.
I’m pretty sure the Railroad would run circles around dumbass raiders, since they could outsmart the Institute regularly.
Been livin most our lives living in a raiders paradise
Railroad motto is lie down and crawl you might not get hurt
The bos cooking the entire other factions because of the incredible man power and having man power support from other segments of the BOS
Bro just colinzed the entire commonwealth
My next playthrough is totally gonna be an institute agent who uses raider gangs to keep the Commonwealth chaotic enough that the Institute can do whatever the fuck they want with no pushback. Along with some HEAVY use of headcanon, to make the institute more fun to side with...
In this scenario I always feel like the Railroad and Minutemen would team up with the Railroad running interference and espionage maybe we would have to suss out spies in the Raider groups
I always thought there should be a way to keep all three factions. I mean, the operators only care about money. Give them the bottling plant and control of Fizz top mountain. The pack gets 2, the disciples get two and everyone is happy. All out war at the end is not trash idea. It's pretty common sense really. After all, War...war never changes.
Kill everything that moves run? Way ahead of ya. 10/10 Would recommend
But if we don't take out one gang, how will I arm all the minutemen with sweet sweet Chinese aks?
I’m on a survival playthrough where I hit lvl50+ and collected every perk mag and bobblehead that didn’t require a quest to get. Got them all without even saying hi to Codsworth or triggering any main quests. Including bumping into Piper or the MM.
Went to Nuka-World and am turning the commonwealth into a raiders paradise before I even go home to look for Shawn.
The raider plot aside, I’ve always thought avoiding major quests for a while tracks with what the lone wanderer might actually do, they would desperately scour the commonwealth for any sign of Shaun before they start running factions.
They might give up after awhile (collecting perks and grinding legendaries) and head home for any clues, that’s when they find Codsworth and the plot can start.
Been spendin most our lives
Living in a raiders paradise.
Why do I feel like the final stand of the factions against the raiders would be them setting aside their differences to not get absolutely annihilated, or them being so unwilling to they end up in a massive conflict amongst each other as the raiders roll in and destroy the last of them?
I Would Also Like To See An Alternative Where You Could Fight Off The Raiders Trying To Take Over The Commonwealth Alongside One Of The Factions
Im sitting here going, "I like this, but dont diss the Railroad like that." They may not have the numbers of the Brotherhood, but they have solid armor and good firepower. They could definitely be a threat in the ensuing chaos, especially if they get their hands on some handmade rifles. Deacon with one of those could be crazy dangerous.
The animals is the only raider faction it hurted to destroy for me, I dont see them as evil
Liberty primes elbow drop is a nuke
The ability to tell a certain minuteman to go and X himself or take with him 3-4 minuteman AND help a settlement.
NPC restock, have supply and ammo boxes that settlement NPC Can use when they have been given superior weapons or have the need to fix their equipment.
Settlements with a certain strength and defensive capabilities makes it less likely to lose when being raided.
WALL CLICK !
They could have implemented the option of ending the game with raiders, they lost a good chance
I wish there was an ending where you attack the institute with the raider’s faction , where the Overboss/sole survivor tells them how the institute is filled with all kind of amazing resources , and how they’re basically competition as well , since the raiders want to take over the commonwealth and the institute are in the way
You can't encounter the Brotherhood Prydwyn if you never find Kellogg. This means no Liberty Prime. You need to save Preston and retake The Castle for artillery.
"Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should".
GLAD that I couldn't, I REALLY don't want to see my character INTENTIONALLY FALL deeper down the rabbit hole, considering that your character is a parent who has LOST the ability to raise their child themselves to a bunch of SOULESS scientists.
I never wanted to entertain the idea of succumbing to evil so the first quest I undertook when I first arrive in Nuka World was to go "Wabbit/Duck Season".
We keep spendin nost are lives livin in the raiders paradise