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The fact that you have a premium mixing course even after providing all this information in your youtube channel makes me wonder what lies in the unknown. Great video! :D
I second this opinion. the examples are brutal, fast info and real solutions. Andrew sheps is interesting but he never explains things, so i'm just trying to imitate, but that is no way to learn on the long run.
waves 1176 its one of those plugins that you think you dont need until you struggle with 20 other compressors. I stared using the Red 3compressor from Focusrite on my mix bus even before knowing thats what CLA uses most of the time ...but man. It makes the mixes sound so good punchy and clean. loving it
The T-Racks Opto isn’t an emulation of the Focusrite Red 3... the Focusrite Red 3 is a VCA, not an Opto as the T-Racks shown here is. I think part of the confusion over the T-Racks Opto being an emulation of the Focusrite Red 3, is because the T-Racks Opto’s GUI is presented as being very similar to the metallic red that the Focusrite Red 3 hardware is. It’s an honest mistake to make, particularly for those who have only ever heard about the Focusrite Red 3, but who have never used one. FWIW 🙏
The most eye opening (ear opening? :P ) explanation was your Waves one, where you lead us to understand the "for you and I" after the F, when it gets out of compression, "for you and I" don't lose energy, and that is so important since it's the last bit of a line. Also same explanation you reveal that's how a REAL LA 76 sounds/behaves. When we have a guy like you noticing things (was gonna say "small" but we know they are not), that clearly knows what he's doing and has lots of experience, we can finally feel educated. (for me vocals is the most important thing to get right). Thanks so much MixbusTV. P.S. If only Waves (or any developer) explained their plugins as well as you :P
Just started watching and 2 minutes and 54 seconds in I felt that I had to say her voice is so beautiful! Absolutely amazing. And you're amazing, too, of course, Mr. Marvel villain! 🤘😀🤘 Now on to watching through the whole video. Edit: I learned yesterday that you can add any other Waves plugin into the Scheps Omni Channel! Very nice. Thank you for your great content.
Yeah, for that kind of music you don't need anything very good. You can get away with the garbage that CLA would never dream of using on a mix but puts his name on to bilk little kids and musical masturbators who make noises all by themselves in a basement out of their lunch money. But, if you're recording real instruments played by living people, the UAD-2 emulations of the 1176 and LA-2A are the only in-the-box plugins that imbue the organic tones of real music with the richness, warmth, heft, and openness of the real things. Satin and Presswerk from u-he and the Klanghelm collection are beyond impressive and might even make pop/EDM/trance sound a little musical, so should be avoided like dragons in those genres.
X S Sorry to say so, but you sound like an old grumpy relic (and I know a few of them in the music industry) 😉 I use UAD myself, but the magic lies not within the plugins, but rather how the plugis are used (ie the producer/mixer) 😉
I'm watching your videos backwards. Now I think those Arturia compressors are quite a game changer and I'm not sure if your to 10 list changed already. Good to know about these ones anyway, thx! I guess we never have enough compressors! :D
Thanks David! I really dig your channel and your material. Especially when your methods are similar to mine, ha ha! Seriously, I have learned a few valuable things from you. I appreciate it! Hey, what do you think about the Audacity plugins?
And one more thing (totally off topic from vocals and compressors)... Have you tried the new plugin from Submission Audio called Eurobass II? It's a virtual instrument for bass and sounds really amazing. I usually don't like stuff like that, but if you have the opportunity to ditch your bass player, it's totally worth it (just kidding, but Glenn Fricker might be serious about it)... Ola Englund has a demo of it on his channel.
The MJUC, like all the Klanghelm plugins, is extraordinary. That enhanced Distressor sounds interesting. I sure hope you cleaned those pops out before it was released! I was cringing every time one was about to hit, and I have an AC unit going full blast about 6 inches from my head. I don't know what the fuss is about MV2. It's a dullard's leveler. I much prefer Pro-MB because the sound can be shaped by upward/downward expansion/compression. Yes, you have to use more than two sliders, but you can flatter the character of whatever you're working with and prepare it to fit perfectly in the mix. People tend to think of it as more of a mix buss or mastering tool, but it's so great at being the first thing that touches the signal after the preamp. But nothing can cover up all the pitch correction artifacts on that vocal. We're dangerously close to T-Pane territory. Why can't people sing any more? Not even Klanghelm or UAD could put enough polish on that to make it sound human. When I was on the other side of the mic, you would have been laughed out of a studio if you were that off pitch and completely unoriginal. Engineers need to grow some balls and start being discriminate about what they will do to make someone sound moderately un-horrific.
I reckon if you sum all the vids on this channel pertinent to compression, that other than the going away and actually getting experience from using the different models, you can find everything you need to know about the topic, without the innate problems associated with learning just the odd 'one-trick-pony' applications that so many other channels put out. Learning how, when, and why to use compression is the most important topic, so you don't want to simply slam it in and squash the shit out of things, because you think that's what's expected
@@mixbustv genuinely laughed out loud after reading this. I love my Waves plugins. I’m gonna try using MV2 and API2500. I usually use them on bass and mix buss, respectively. Thanks for all the help!
@@mixbustv Agree.. if you ever listened to the Softube Saturation plug there's an element of that in the FET and that Harmonics plug. It's like an expander/exciter in their coding.. bit like Maag plugs but livelier.
Hi the logic of compression seems simple enough, so how does Ableton's default compressor compare against various third party plugin compressors, and why there are so many kinds of compressor plugins?
Thanks for another great video! I originally bought the MaxxVolume instead of the MV2 because it was supposed to be the big brother of the two, but almost all of the pro producers/mixers seem to be using the MV2 instead of MaxxVolume (yourself included). Is there a reason why you and most other pro's prefer MV2 to MaxxVolume and would you recommend switching to the MV2?
Thanks David, great video as always. Have you tried the Waves Kramer Pie or the u-He Presswerk? How do you feel about them? As far as I've understood, the Arousor doesn't have an opto mode (yet). The 10:1 is just an additional ratio. On top of that, if you wan't to emulate the Distressor ratios, you should be picking the next higher ratio on the Arousor (4:1 on Distressor - 6:1 on the Arousor). Can anybody confirm or correct me if I'm wrong?
love the channel , ive got a question - i record with a 2A style compressor, i was wondering for my mixing stage what kind of compressor i should be using? - at the moment and for most of my time working ive always used an instance of RComp to mix the vocals , only because i never knew what a good style of compressor would be good to mix with the 2A recordings. would love to hear your input & maybe even some secret tricks you have for a 2A. thank you 🙏
It could be anything, but, a common combinaiton is 2A tracking, 1176 mixing (or distressor). The RComp is a great plugin and actually the very first emulation of the LA2A (opto mode) and 1176 (Electro mode)
I would probably change the mic before trying to fix it with a comp, I'm not a fan of that mic. I'd suggest the JZ V67 you'd have a much closer to final sound than with that mic you have now. But in any case, probably the successor.
@@mixbustv man, I wish I had known this a few days before. I just got the Copperhead. But I will look into the successor. My other issue is that I speak with my tongue. So my S’s are more harsh than. I am trying to go in as clean as possible before processing. Except for compression. I like to compress to record.
The Scheps Omni Channel is going to turn into this generations SSL E Strip as in to say it will become the go to for ITB mixers because its nearly the perfect 1 stop mixing tool and has so much character. My fav part of it is the part I didn't care about and that's the DS2. Its not even a Dessser it's a 4 channel multi band compressor.
If I have the IK Multimedia and the Softube one, would you recommend to grab the Audiority ( I run from Waves like the plague) one? For vocals that is.
@@mixbustv Sweet, thanks so much. I would get the Waves plugins but on PC I feel they are very intrusive when installing them. They seem very good and I always wanted the LA compressors among other things. Great channel you've go (too bad your audience isn't big at all, but that comes with what your channel is about).
i got a question incase u might know, what plugin or hardware would u say will get me that nice sound like the CL1B how it makes the plosives and transcients sound clean and fast for rap vocals? thank u for ur time
@@drillgirl718 the c800 is your top end there, it's a very bright and extremely detailed sound, I personally am not a fan of it but Drake brought that sound on the market again, so yeah, that hyper detailed bright top end it that mic which goes very well with the cl1b because it tames some of the harshness
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The fact that you have a premium mixing course even after providing all this information in your youtube channel makes me wonder what lies in the unknown. Great video! :D
Jaw dropped with that API. Makes me want to grab it immediately
Hands down the best mixing channel on youtube. Thanks.
I second this opinion. the examples are brutal, fast info and real solutions. Andrew sheps is interesting but he never explains things, so i'm just trying to imitate, but that is no way to learn on the long run.
CLA-76 has to be my favourite as a pop producer. It's what Serban Ghenea (THE pop mixer) uses all the time for vox
Can you make an updated version of this for 2021?
This channel and Produce Like A Pro are a blessing to the community. Love the content! Cheers from Madrid!
waves 1176 its one of those plugins that you think you dont need until you struggle with 20 other compressors. I stared using the Red 3compressor from Focusrite on my mix bus even before knowing thats what CLA uses most of the time ...but man. It makes the mixes sound so good punchy and clean. loving it
The T-Racks Opto isn’t an emulation of the Focusrite Red 3... the Focusrite Red 3 is a VCA, not an Opto as the T-Racks shown here is.
I think part of the confusion over the T-Racks Opto being an emulation of the Focusrite Red 3, is because the T-Racks Opto’s GUI is presented as being very similar to the metallic red that the Focusrite Red 3 hardware is.
It’s an honest mistake to make, particularly for those who have only ever heard about the Focusrite Red 3, but who have never used one.
FWIW
🙏
Bro I think this has been one of the best compression videos on plug-ins I’ve ever seen
Awesome list David!
I like the hardware version of The tube Tech CL1B compressor on vocals .. it's such a wicked piece of gear 👑😍
@@mixbustv the hardware CLB1 s fantastic because it has 4 tubes. The software sounds nothing like it.
The most eye opening (ear opening? :P ) explanation was your Waves one, where you lead us to understand the "for you and I" after the F, when it gets out of compression, "for you and I" don't lose energy, and that is so important since it's the last bit of a line. Also same explanation you reveal that's how a REAL LA 76 sounds/behaves. When we have a guy like you noticing things (was gonna say "small" but we know they are not), that clearly knows what he's doing and has lots of experience, we can finally feel educated. (for me vocals is the most important thing to get right). Thanks so much MixbusTV.
P.S. If only Waves (or any developer) explained their plugins as well as you :P
bro that audiority comp sounds amazing😮
Very good reviews on this channel. I am happy that I found this channel!!:)
Just started watching and 2 minutes and 54 seconds in I felt that I had to say her voice is so beautiful! Absolutely amazing.
And you're amazing, too, of course, Mr. Marvel villain! 🤘😀🤘
Now on to watching through the whole video.
Edit: I learned yesterday that you can add any other Waves plugin into the Scheps Omni Channel! Very nice.
Thank you for your great content.
You gave so much info, done so well! Thank you
CLA-76 followed by CLA-2A, sometimes also MV2, is my favorite for modern pop/EDM/trance
Yeah, for that kind of music you don't need anything very good. You can get away with the garbage that CLA would never dream of using on a mix but puts his name on to bilk little kids and musical masturbators who make noises all by themselves in a basement out of their lunch money. But, if you're recording real instruments played by living people, the UAD-2 emulations of the 1176 and LA-2A are the only in-the-box plugins that imbue the organic tones of real music with the richness, warmth, heft, and openness of the real things. Satin and Presswerk from u-he and the Klanghelm collection are beyond impressive and might even make pop/EDM/trance sound a little musical, so should be avoided like dragons in those genres.
X S Sorry to say so, but you sound like an old grumpy relic (and I know a few of them in the music industry) 😉 I use UAD myself, but the magic lies not within the plugins, but rather how the plugis are used (ie the producer/mixer) 😉
@@xaosnox lame
I'm watching your videos backwards. Now I think those Arturia compressors are quite a game changer and I'm not sure if your to 10 list changed already.
Good to know about these ones anyway, thx!
I guess we never have enough compressors! :D
Thanks David 😡 Now I've gotta buy Softube's Summit emulation. 🤪
Great video as always 👍🏻👏🏻
Nice one ! Have you tried Slate Digital compressors ? FG-Stress and Blue 1176 are awesome ones 👍
The t-racks opto sounds amazing!!
Thanks David! I really dig your channel and your material. Especially when your methods are similar to mine, ha ha! Seriously, I have learned a few valuable things from you. I appreciate it! Hey, what do you think about the Audacity plugins?
I missed the UAD Plugin compressors, the are the best
Amazing content man! 62k is a lot of people but your channel deserves way more! Thanks for sharing!
Big thanks on the MJUC. Pains me to say, but had it for years and never tried it on vocals.
The saturation is just very hardware like.
Learned some new things. Thanks man 🙏🏼
best teacher ever!
And one more thing (totally off topic from vocals and compressors)...
Have you tried the new plugin from Submission Audio called Eurobass II?
It's a virtual instrument for bass and sounds really amazing. I usually don't like stuff like that, but if you have the opportunity to ditch your bass player, it's totally worth it (just kidding, but Glenn Fricker might be serious about it)...
Ola Englund has a demo of it on his channel.
New vision for compressor. Thanks david!
Great Video - Very Helpful to Hear the Comparions
Thank you Alex, loved your course as well. Great teacher , the best!!
great video.my favorite 1176 followed by la2a.going to check out the arouser looks interesting.thanks again for this great video
I love this channel.. great job..
Thank you making this video, Bro
Love your videos❣️🎸
Thank you for your knowledge
Ur videos are very helpful for me every time.
The MJUC, like all the Klanghelm plugins, is extraordinary. That enhanced Distressor sounds interesting. I sure hope you cleaned those pops out before it was released! I was cringing every time one was about to hit, and I have an AC unit going full blast about 6 inches from my head. I don't know what the fuss is about MV2. It's a dullard's leveler. I much prefer Pro-MB because the sound can be shaped by upward/downward expansion/compression. Yes, you have to use more than two sliders, but you can flatter the character of whatever you're working with and prepare it to fit perfectly in the mix. People tend to think of it as more of a mix buss or mastering tool, but it's so great at being the first thing that touches the signal after the preamp. But nothing can cover up all the pitch correction artifacts on that vocal. We're dangerously close to T-Pane territory. Why can't people sing any more? Not even Klanghelm or UAD could put enough polish on that to make it sound human. When I was on the other side of the mic, you would have been laughed out of a studio if you were that off pitch and completely unoriginal. Engineers need to grow some balls and start being discriminate about what they will do to make someone sound moderately un-horrific.
waves puigchild 660 is really good for vocals also, one of my go to.
Great Vid David! thanks pal!
I reckon if you sum all the vids on this channel pertinent to compression, that other than the going away and actually getting experience from using the different models, you can find everything you need to know about the topic, without the innate problems associated with learning just the odd 'one-trick-pony' applications that so many other channels put out. Learning how, when, and why to use compression is the most important topic, so you don't want to simply slam it in and squash the shit out of things, because you think that's what's expected
Uh oh, I feel GAS on the horizon, lol!! Thanks, David! Your channel is absolutely FANTASTIC!! Take care, my brother...
Great like always D !! thank you !!
Hi David...thank you for sharing this list.... would the Tokyo Dawn lab molot compressor had made the list if it was out at this time?
For sure
Thanks David! Great!
You’re information is well presented but Waves plugins just seem entry level quality.
And they're used basically on every single song out there..
@@mixbustv genuinely laughed out loud after reading this. I love my Waves plugins. I’m gonna try using MV2 and API2500. I usually use them on bass and mix buss, respectively. Thanks for all the help!
Hey dave.nice video..can you recommend what/which good compressor plugi for in your face effect specialy for perccusion or synth lead ?
@@mixbustv thank you..
Why do I have a craving to watch Last of the Mohicans ? I love that film ! 👍😃 How about the Softube FET comp.. that's meant to be excellent..
@@mixbustv Agree.. if you ever listened to the Softube Saturation plug there's an element of that in the FET and that Harmonics plug. It's like an expander/exciter in their coding.. bit like Maag plugs but livelier.
Great information!
Hi the logic of compression seems simple enough, so how does Ableton's default compressor compare against various third party plugin compressors, and why there are so many kinds of compressor plugins?
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Thanks for another great video! I originally bought the MaxxVolume instead of the MV2 because it was supposed to be the big brother of the two, but almost all of the pro producers/mixers seem to be using the MV2 instead of MaxxVolume (yourself included). Is there a reason why you and most other pro's prefer MV2 to MaxxVolume and would you recommend switching to the MV2?
Dude, every time I see a video of you pop up in my feed, I first think it’s Kevin Ross :)
Thanks man.
Best
David, thank you for the great video. Can I ask you what screen magnifier you are using for Windows at 23:00 in the video?
Great Video, had you tried Logic x native compresora? If you had what is your opinion?
Is it not a good idea to use a limiter to keep vocals at a similar volume ?
Is the track you are using here released, sounds nice. Thanks
for noisy mixes like heavy metal or rock music, limiter for vocals i usually use to level the vocals.
Thanks David, great video as always. Have you tried the Waves Kramer Pie or the u-He Presswerk? How do you feel about them?
As far as I've understood, the Arousor doesn't have an opto mode (yet). The 10:1 is just an additional ratio. On top of that, if you wan't to emulate the Distressor ratios, you should be picking the next higher ratio on the Arousor (4:1 on Distressor - 6:1 on the Arousor). Can anybody confirm or correct me if I'm wrong?
Hi David. What is your opinion on the TDR Kotelnikov GE?
Fantastic comp for a silly price
love the channel , ive got a question - i record with a 2A style compressor, i was wondering for my mixing stage what kind of compressor i should be using? - at the moment and for most of my time working ive always used an instance of RComp to mix the vocals , only because i never knew what a good style of compressor would be good to mix with the 2A recordings. would love to hear your input & maybe even some secret tricks you have for a 2A. thank you 🙏
It could be anything, but, a common combinaiton is 2A tracking, 1176 mixing (or distressor). The RComp is a great plugin and actually the very first emulation of the LA2A (opto mode) and 1176 (Electro mode)
@@mixbustv thank you !!
I have a baritone voice (along the lines of Bowie/Gahan). should i go with the Klanghelm or the CLA-76 plugin? Thanks!
Master David what about the Overloud Comp La? What are your thoughts on that Opto Compressor?
I prefer the Tone Empire OptoRed
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@@mixbustv thank you and I can see it cost less.
2020.,pls update what the best compressor plugin for vocal ??
What do you guys think about the pro c-2 for vocals? It has a dedicate algo for it.
David, what Comp would you recommend for a male vocal with a heavy mid range voice, using a tube mic? I'm using the Telefunken Copperhead.
I would probably change the mic before trying to fix it with a comp, I'm not a fan of that mic. I'd suggest the JZ V67 you'd have a much closer to final sound than with that mic you have now. But in any case, probably the successor.
@@mixbustv man, I wish I had known this a few days before. I just got the Copperhead. But I will look into the successor. My other issue is that I speak with my tongue. So my S’s are more harsh than. I am trying to go in as clean as possible before processing. Except for compression. I like to compress to record.
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Is there any way to use Reclock's compression for everything?
I've used a fairly transparent, versatile, and FREE leveling amp plugin for vocal processing called VOLA. Google it for a link.
The Scheps Omni Channel is going to turn into this generations SSL E Strip as in to say it will become the go to for ITB mixers because its nearly the perfect 1 stop mixing tool and has so much character.
My fav part of it is the part I didn't care about and that's the DS2. Its not even a Dessser it's a 4 channel multi band compressor.
10 favorite EQ:’s soon?
My 10 fav EQs are DMG Equilibrium. LOL.
But seriously, it's just superior to most as far as how transparent it can be on the transients.
If I have the IK Multimedia and the Softube one, would you recommend to grab the Audiority ( I run from Waves like the plague) one? For vocals that is.
@@mixbustv Sweet, thanks so much. I would get the Waves plugins but on PC I feel they are very intrusive when installing them. They seem very good and I always wanted the LA compressors among other things. Great channel you've go (too bad your audience isn't big at all, but that comes with what your channel is about).
@@mixbustv Neat, thanks for taking your time to answer. Best of luck.
I'd love to see you review the new Arturia compressors. I'm super impressed with them, but I want a professional opinion lol.
@@mixbustv i'm sending them an email
No Molotok?
MV2 is the first plugin I reach for on vocals.
It wasn't even out
@@mixbustv Oh, that's right. I thought it had been out for a while, but it's pretty new. Do you use it much?
i got a question incase u might know, what plugin or hardware would u say will get me that nice sound like the CL1B how it makes the plosives and transcients sound clean and fast for rap vocals? thank u for ur time
The CL1B? Altho' no compressor will save you from plosives, those you will always have to automate manually.
@@mixbustv oh okay thanks, it might be the sony c800g and cl1b compressor giving that nice plosives and consonants in most of Migos vocals
@@mixbustv oh okay thanks, it might be the sony c800g and cl1b compressor giving that nice plosives and consonants in most of Migos vocals
@@drillgirl718 the c800 is your top end there, it's a very bright and extremely detailed sound, I personally am not a fan of it but Drake brought that sound on the market again, so yeah, that hyper detailed bright top end it that mic which goes very well with the cl1b because it tames some of the harshness
MJUC?
All i wanna do is watch cartoons and play video games with immersive sound but there's just so much i don't understand yet about sound compression :(
Learning to hear compression It's one of the most difficult things in mixing. The VU meter is your enemy, close your eyes and you will see.
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send fem voc will give u best remixxxx please