I always wanted to apply thermal paste for my CPU and GPU, but I thought it was too risky. Lately, however, my laptop (the maxed out XPS 15 Skylake version) has been heating up way too much whenever I play Overwatch. Is the application process the same like your XPS 15 Kaby Lake version?
Hey Dave! As always, a very nice video. I would just like to say that for the owners of the Alienware 17 R4, it's better to make undervolting as the main solution for CPU temperature problems. That's because getting to the CPU core is very difficult for inexperienced people, like me, thus becoming very difficult to accomplish a re-pasting. For the record, my 6820HK was getting about 80 degrees under full load, and now, with -0.150V, I get a maximum of 60~70 degrees Celsius.
Dave Lee honestly I've had overclocked desktops and I'd never tell someone to fiddle with laptops. buy a gaming desktop. oh and, I can totally see someone doing something bad. there is extensive research to be done with your system if you want to do this good, if not don't even start.
@@vaibhavsinghrawat8981 For me it works well on my 2012/2013 laptop workstation , however I seem to have some kind of bug which causes the game to crash when I start to fly. I guess that I have some dependency mods double installed or older versions of them.
My Dell XPS 9550 has gone from 95 degrees max temp on a core to a max temp of 78 degrees on a core just from undervolting by 0.150 using Intel XTU. Top stuff Dave. 👍
Look if your laptop have a cropper heatskin (cuivre), in this case use metal liquid paste, you'll get more ! You have a good laptop, add a external fan to air output and do some overclock with the microcode hack (google it), you can fully unlock your laptop.
Why ? I've pushed up my I7 4720HQ from 3.4ghz to 4.4 @ 1.3v on all core. I've a good cooling solution, i've just add 2 fans to pull heat. i'm near of an 6700K desktop... i can get more, but i'll need to use watercooling and i'm afraid about electron migration if you go more than 1.3v on haswell (22nm).
Dont forget to put pickle slices under the keyboard and replace heatsink by raw fish. Instead of heatpipes you can use RGB spaghetti for better performance.
I'm using an ancient laptop and I need all the help anyhow, just getting all the crap out of the system. (I use canned air, but even that isn't as good as cleaning the fans.)
i was too but u build confidence over time - better you do it then paying someone else to - good idea to ground yourself before working on laptop to discharge any static
Great walk through Dave. I used this to re-paste and under volt my XPS 9570. I was able to push it to -130 Mv, and with the re-pasting my load temps dropped from and average of 97 to 87. I also put pads on the voltage regulators and can definitely notice how much heat they transfer to the case now. The only difference is I used Throttle Stop, I found the Intel app reverting my settings after restart. I also use the profiles feature to disable Turbo and play with Speed Shift while on the battery. Everything seems to have helped quite a bit with battery life. Cheers
Got the 9750 on release and I finally got thermal paste for it. It reaches too high temps even when undervolted. I'll be repasting it right now actually, hoping adding pads will also help with the temps.
Back when I used to look into PC tweaks more, the common method was to put some thermal compound on the chip, and then get it as spread evenly as possible with the end of a credit card or something. No one goes that far anymore I guess? The pressure from the heatsink should press the blob method into form, but probably not to quite the same degree of evenness I assume.
If any small bubbles did exist with that method (and the goal of it is to get as close to none as possible), the heatsink pressure that's supposed to turn the blob into a flat surface in the first place would also even those out, no? It's probably moot anyways, as he showed the worst thing is too little paste and low quality paste.
This guide is excellent, thanks for the tips! Just undervolted and improved my idle temps and performance by a lot. It almost completely stops thermal throttling during heavy tasks now!
I have a msi gs63vr stealth (not easy to do on this laptop) with i7 7700hq, 1060 6gb, ssd, and 16gb ram. While playing games I maintained temps ranging 87C-91C. After undervolting it lowered 78C-83C. Then I applied new thermal past and thermal pads (a lot of pads) it idels around 48C and underload I maintain 65C-75C. I was surprised on how many pad it had and the quality was very low to include the thermal past (poorly applied MSI needs to do a QA/QC). I want to thank D2D for making this video. 👍
So effectively you dropped temps under load from 91°C to 75°C? Nice! I can't undervolt my i5-3230m as Ivy Bridge was the last generation, which couldn't be undervolted... However, I successfully applied new thermal paste and... well, managed to drop temps by 3°C under load to about 75°C (cpu stress only). Guess stock paste was good already. I wonder what my temps are going to be when i7-3630QM arrives. Might struggle with a little temperature throttling...
Hanebnik, yes. I was about to return the laptop due to the fans running loud. Im averaging about 69C while playing forza 7. It only peeks at 75C for a second. Let me know what your results are.
Thank you! My gaming laptop used to run at around 93C, peaking at 98C. With -0.100V undervolting, it's now running at around 82C! I'm not gonna push further, satisfied with these results.
I followed this and just undervolted my AW17 R4 with the i7700 down to -115 and after a 30 min cpu stress test its cruising at 58-63 Degrees Celsius! Thank you Dave xoxo
@Rage virus and zombification are 2 diverse concepts People buy gaming laptop precisely because they travel. This advice to buy PC over laptop is as stupid and stale.
@Rage virus and zombification are 2 diverse concepts are you sure its a gaming laptop? cause a 9th gen i5 + gtx 1600ti gaming laptop can run Witcher 3 @60fps on ultra
Gotta say man, you are one of the best tech reviewer out there. I do like Marques, but I'm more into a guy just sitting infront of a camera and giving the info that i need. I will sure try reviewing tech. It deserves a shot..
@@Betobum I prefer this guy linus sounds a bit too energetic for me (not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't like it personally). This guy has a calm voice and it just feels nice lol
Very useful, thanks. This will probably inspire me to finally open up my ol` laptop and do some digging around. I would like to see more content like this from you.
There is a good reason the manufacturers chose those voltages, do not be surprised if your laptop crashes on odd occasions when messing with them. reducing voltage raises the noise-floor hence bit-errors. This is akin to someone putting a K&N air filter on their new car thinking it will increase the power).
I would say that's the reason he said run Prime 95 overnight. Ofcourse I am not sure if Prime 95 would be sufficient to simulate all conditions a CPU might encounter in daily use.
BEcause of this hack, I got banned from Club Penguin and Toon TOWN!! DISLIKEEEEEEEEE!!! Dave, my mom says she'll see you in court and my sister says you're a poopy head!!! We got so mad we threw our laptop out of our apartment window onto the street below. We are expecting in the mail our replacement laptop free of charge from you. Thank you, Dave Lee.
My laptop consistently runs hot. I accidentally left a video game running all day without realizing it once, and came back to find the CPU and GPU were sitting at about 90c. The keyboard was uncomfortably hot. My fans must have been working overtime too, because the next week one of them went bad. I've got a replacement fan, and some thermal paste, and I'm getting ready to do the repairs - I'm kind of nervous about it, though! I've done these sorts of repairs on desktops, but those are considerably easier than laptops. Wish me luck! :D
Dave, you explain things in such an easy to understand, clear manner. Perfect for the lay community. Excellent delivery, as always. Thanks for the video, will be attempting it on my 9570.
@@TabalugaDragon it would reduce thermal throttling and therefore increasing the extended period it can run at higher performance, reducing the time compute tasks take, so in a round about way, I'd say it's fair to call it a performance boost.
I saw bunch of videos on how to apply thermal paste and decided to do it myself. I had older laptop so I first tried on that, then I moved to my current laptop and did everything by instructional video. Surprisingly not too difficult and after cleaning and new thermal paste, my laptop is way cooler.
could you do a guide for applying thermal paste and thermal pads to the new Razer blade or Razer blade 2016? It's been running really hot and that's the main complaint regarding the Razer blades, I feel like this could help alot of people. thanks :)
Extra tip, don't leave screws laying on the mainboard. Also, if you've never torn a laptop down before, label a diagram where your screws need to go when you put it back together.
imma gonna try this with my new razer blade stealth quad core.. :) Thanks D2D for explaining and give the example and the final results.. simply the best..
Great vid. Tried the same thing with the same laptop. I didn't do a before and after for undervolting, but -130 mv works. Before and after applying liquid metal, from 77 to 60 degrees under cpu stress test before and after. It thermal throttles after ~1 min in full cpu and gpu load, after liquid metal, it stays around 80 degrees full cpu and GPU loads. still feels warm under left shift and backspace. The most notable difference is how quickly the fans turn off after stress, and how much computation you need to be doing for the fans to work up in the first place.
I undervolted my i7 6700HQ on Asus RoG GL552VW with -0.140 V. I think I'll leave it like this, don't want to push it any further as the results are amazing. Core temperature went down 10-15 °C and I'm really satisfied.
Hey Dave, awesome video man! But could you maybe make an updated video, discussing the "pump out" effect of thermal pastes. Leaving the stock thermal paste in your laptop might sometimes even be the better option in the long run, since a lot of high quality pastes with good thermals, might not last so long in a laptop on a bare die. This is a topic nobody is discussing really. :)
Hydronaut has been the only paste I found that is consistent. The temps are higher out of the gate than other pastes but it lasts longer than 3 days. I bought some TFX and want to give it a shot, but I just read on the back of the container "silicone". Silicone is the reason why most pastes "pump out". It expands and falls off the bare die. Wish I would have done more research on it than just go off of people's short experiences. I think I'll just keep my silicone free Hydronaut for now.
i threw my laptop into the ocean and it worked great. pros: super cool, ultra quiet, never throttles. cons: you might loose some human performance if you have stage fear due the the penguin spectators.
I once opened my laptop to clean it because started running slow, and wiped clean the thermal paste from the cpu and was so proud of it, i thought "Ofc it was running slow, it had wet dust in it". Then laptop commits die
I know its too late and the age of this video means this will probably not be read but if it helps one person thats already good, but if you're replacing the thermal paste of a laptop, it is very important that you spread the thermal paste on the CPU/GPU die to cover it all. It's better to have a little extra than not enough since you should be using a non conductive paste anyways. the reason is that the die is much more sensitive to thermal temperatures if it isnt covered well, as opposed to CPU's in desktops that have lids .
Thanks David! Just got a new laptop with a i7-8750H, managed to bring it to -0.170V before it finally blue screened. Currently sitting pretty at -0.165V and completely stable!
6:06 watch out! Having too much thermal isn't great neither because your CPU can be hotter than it should. I had this problem with a desktop PC, and I fixed it by replacing with a new one.
If you actually check out GamerNexus he clearly shows how too much thermal paste is not a real problem because in the end it's just spreads out even. For super cheap thermal paste yeah it might show some problems with too much paste but a decent paste shouldn't have any problems
you should mention that even if the system it's stable by undervolting the cpu you drasticly increase the chance of bad calculations by the CPU (Instability). So when you do p95 test you have to pay attention to the logs to see if there are miscalculations from the jobs (it will be a warning message). Hope this will help
Older laptops like by 1st gen XPS 15 were amazingly easy to remove and do this. Also, there was so much space that you could run a water tube across all things that get hot.
just curious, if there is a optimum voltage that can balance between performance and temperature, why isn't it the default setting by Intel? Is there any reason for the engineers to set the voltage a little bit beyond the optimum point ?
I think they prefer to take that measure, having more energy consumption, instead of making the ideal voltage setting, because then the risk of problem would be greater, dave himself quotes it in the video, he says: "do it on your own risk"
Jason Ng+ The manufacturer sets the voltage where ALL of that series of CPU will reliably run. They are limited so more power doesn't make them run faster, it just turns into waste heat.
They set a voltage that will work across a larger number of CPUs to increase yield. Intel would rather have all of their chips running on a little bit extra voltage if it means more of them will be usable. Some CPUs need all the voltage, others don't. It would be nice if Intel fine tuned each chip, but that is simply not feasible for them to do.
Germanator, but you can optimize voltage for your particular chip. The voltage has a cap at the upper limit but it is not locked so you can undervolt them.
Install older versions of XTU. XTU disabled new versions of undervolting on some laptops other than the supported new intel CPU's. Typical horseshit of intel for making us buy new shit instead of using the current one.
Thanks David Lee! I have a Dell Inspiron 13-5378 laptop with the Intel Core i3 7100U. I repasted the CPU & the core voltage offset is now at -0.089V (89mV) via Intel XTU. Any lower and it blue screens. So far, so good.
if anyone wants to know i have an asus rog strix gl502vm gtx 1060 and i7 6700HQ and was able to go as far as -.180 doing the XTU cpu stress test but then i had to change it to -.160 because anything lower than that would make it crash or bluescreen while intensive periods of witcher 3 at ultra settings.
okay so im tech savvy so ive already done the retermal pasting... But my question is will lowering the voltage on my CPU lower my FPS on my MSI Gaming Laptop?
If undervolting results in lower temperatures, then that means that it can keep turbo boost for longer/more consistently so performance shouldn't be any worse.
generally when overclocking you're turning the voltage UP and you would get better performance so it would seem to make sense that undervolting would get less performance, yes.
Its Neight only if you underclock, what he is saying is that there is a margin where you can lower the voltage and keep the performance the same with lower temps which can actually improve slightly the performance without messing with anything else, that happens because the manufacturer provide the standard laptop with too much voltage for the current clock, so you can reduce that voltage without reducing the clock, voltage is only the fuel it don't add or subtract performance, the clock does, so your laptop will run cooler for longer and if you are having heating problems before the performance will actually improve, even though it seems strange, the ideal way to improve performance is increase voltage increase clock but for that you need to increase COOLING, and in a laptop that won't happen, so you just avoid overheating and get a few frames improvement in a few games with no drawbacks if you do it properly.
Marian Simarro González Probably the Inspiron 7567 with a 1050Ti, he put a video out on it about a month ago. You could also always try to pick up a used last gen laptop with a 960m, 965m or even a 970m for cheap (it'll probably be one of those 5-8 pound bricks though). Also your question is a bit vague, a lot of it depends on what games you want to play and what you want to spend. That is a pretty good starting point though. You could also get something like the XPS 15 with a 960m if your expectations on gaming aren't too crazy and you want a smaller, lighter computer.
the new XPS with 1050, if the price isn't a problem. other than that, there is dell Inspiron 7000 series, also good. And the 800$ Acer and Dell ones with gtx 1050, they aren't as well built as the others but they're almost similar in specs and a bit heavy.
William Mayberry well, that's good. but still i don't know if it's worth the shot i've opened my laptop a lot but i've never played with the system before or even get to know what undervolting is. after all i don't really care to lower down the temperatures cuz my laptop is well cooled but the idea of making your laptop play games faster is pretty interesting.
The software boost will stick until / unless something changes it back.. The thermal paste it depends on what kind you get and use.. Your normal quality type thermal paste (Think Noctua NT-H1 or ARCTIC MX-4) should be fine for the life of the laptop.. The ONLY time you would even think of bothering to reapply the thermal paste is if the temperatures start to go back up.. If they are not, then no reason to clean off perfectly good paste after any period of time. It is not the age of the paste that matters - It is the performance.. If temperatures start to go back up after a year then open the Laptop out clean out the fans and after you take off the heatsink you put new paste on. ALWAYS use new paste after taking off the heatsink.. Do not take it off - see that it looks ok and just put the heatsink back on.. Always clean off the old paste and put on new. (So be prepared with new paste to replace old paste) One other thing.. Storing what is left over in the tube you get.. Do not pull the plunger back up as this will introduce air into the tube - Put CAP back on firmly then put the whole tube in say a zip lock back and remove all the air (does not need to be a complete vacuum just not all puffy).. This should keep for a few years.. You will know it is not good because it will be harder and dried out when you try to use it again..
@@alarcomics4195 Speaking of buying a laptop in India is too expensive as compare to the US guys. My Acer nitro 5 get sold in US at $600 that is near ₹44k in Indian currency. However, I bought it at ₹60k (₹16k more; perhaps due to some taxes). Now, what could be bought at $600 in US is could be purchased at ₹11k in India. This is something called PPP (purchasing power parity) that is used to compare economy between two countries. So, it turns out that if I had been living in US I would have paid more than 5 times less for the same laptop than what I have paid in India. It also means Indians pay more taxes to buy a laptop than US people do to buy the whole machine. LMAO 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 In US $3k will allow you to buy the same things you would have bought in India at ₹60k. I hope I was able to put some light towards the struggle our families make to buy us a laptop with even way lower annual income than the US families.
@@beastthemonster3675 During great Indian sale the i5 version was priced 60k and I bought the r5 version in 52k. Acer Nitro 5 is one of the most sought out laptops. That's why prices have been increased. The r5 version is unavailable and the i5 version is now priced at 69k.
Coming from PC gaming. I never understood why overclocking tutorials on laptops were telling me to undervolt till now. Thanks for at least giving a brief explanation.
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If you plan on doing these mods, be sure to do your research. It's a bit of work but the gains are awesome. Good luck!
Dave Lee great!
I'll ask my MSI friends to check if this is under warranty and then reply to you
I always wanted to apply thermal paste for my CPU and GPU, but I thought it was too risky. Lately, however, my laptop (the maxed out XPS 15 Skylake version) has been heating up way too much whenever I play Overwatch. Is the application process the same like your XPS 15 Kaby Lake version?
Hey Dave! As always, a very nice video. I would just like to say that for the owners of the Alienware 17 R4, it's better to make undervolting as the main solution for CPU temperature problems. That's because getting to the CPU core is very difficult for inexperienced people, like me, thus becoming very difficult to accomplish a re-pasting. For the record, my 6820HK was getting about 80 degrees under full load, and now, with -0.150V, I get a maximum of 60~70 degrees Celsius.
you should use thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, is the best of the best of non conductive thermal paste
Dave Lee honestly I've had overclocked desktops and I'd never tell someone to fiddle with laptops. buy a gaming desktop. oh and, I can totally see someone doing something bad. there is extensive research to be done with your system if you want to do this good, if not don't even start.
I applied thermal paste to my calculator and now it can run Crysis
A calculator will never be able to run Crysis no mather the thermal paste you use.
@@xelarion8629 whoosh
I put ice on my laptop and now runs roblox without thermal throttling
@@xelarion8629 -You
-The joke
you missed it
@@xelarion8629 Then how am I watching RUclips and running Crysis on my TI-84 right now
I always game inside a refrigerator at -20 Celsius.
Best solution out there.
@Comrade Chernobyl no, it will cause ice melting on antartica and global warming :v
Ok to be honest I do that
Take refrigerator machine to your laptop
Its free real estate
That's already a freezer 😂
For real does it work xd
I undervolted my refrigerator, now it can play Skyrim at 60fps
Interesting...
With all the mods ?🙄
@@vaibhavsinghrawat8981 For me it works well on my 2012/2013 laptop workstation , however I seem to have some kind of bug which causes the game to crash when I start to fly. I guess that I have some dependency mods double installed or older versions of them.
Well mine runs at 144fps 8k😎
@Pete people still use "gay" as a insult xD
Real men apply thermal paste directly to the pins.
Sersou Amine real men don't need thermal paste
lord and savior gaben they blow on the cpu with their mouth while playing
The pins on current intel cpus, are on the socket, so it's not that easy to ruin them.
LMAO LOL'd a couple of times. Thanks
+-.- Cat desktop PCs also need thermal paste
I washed my hair with thermal paste, now i can play doom eternal in my head eyes closed
This is the best one yet xd
*CYBERPUNK THEME INTENSIFIES*
My Dell XPS 9550 has gone from 95 degrees max temp on a core to a max temp of 78 degrees on a core just from undervolting by 0.150 using Intel XTU.
Top stuff Dave. 👍
Did you change something in BIOS? Here don't show all "advanced tuning" options, there is just fell options... Same notebook.
No, I was able to do it just by loading the program up. Mine is the i7 version if that is even a factor, which i doubt it is.
Ty. I think my CPU is locked :/
Ofurawaka Gabel did you download the software in the video?
i have i5 6300HQ how much i undervolt it?
This is how a pro explains.
Is gratifying to have a good teacher in youtube.
Messed up my laptop cause I thought he said toothpaste
If thats true then F
Lesson learned.
noob
You used intel themal paste?
Classic mistake
SUCCESS! 10-15 degree drop!
Laptop:
MSI GE62MVR 7RG APACHE PRO
i7-7700HQ
-0.120V
Before: 80-85 degrees
After: 70-75 degrees
you got any performance boost in games?
Look if your laptop have a cropper heatskin (cuivre), in this case use metal liquid paste, you'll get more !
You have a good laptop, add a external fan to air output and do some overclock with the microcode hack (google it), you can fully unlock your laptop.
@@olivierthierry4935 terrible suggestion
Why ? I've pushed up my I7 4720HQ from 3.4ghz to 4.4 @ 1.3v on all core.
I've a good cooling solution, i've just add 2 fans to pull heat. i'm near of an 6700K desktop... i can get more, but i'll need to use watercooling and i'm afraid about electron migration if you go more than 1.3v on haswell (22nm).
@@olivierthierry4935 thanks, added to my "how to cut the crap out of your cpu lifespan" list
Imagine if someone paused at 5:29 and didn't watch the remaining part.
I'd say "You forgot to put chocolate sprinkles on top of the paste!"
henptk14 did IT.
henptk14 😂😂😂
henptk14
I dont use thermal paste . my cpu runs at a smooth and silky 89c
i used to repair HP laptops for a living and have applied thermal paste hundreds of times. and somehow this video made me afraid to do it.
why?
@@mdahsankhan4361 because he’s lying about applying thermal paste to hundreds of computers. He’s never done it
@@camtwan1 yeah, that guy full of shit
@@camtwan1 what?
I got 10°C drop for my XPS 15 9560 just from the undervolting. Yet to test the re-pasting. Thanks Dave!
Can I use Olive Oil instead of thermal paste?
yes and add some tomato sauce onto the fans when you're done with that.
One Liner Timer Thx, did that!
Dont forget to put pickle slices under the keyboard and replace heatsink by raw fish. Instead of heatpipes you can use RGB spaghetti for better performance.
of course you can :) TELL US THE RESULT
ZepaniZeppos - Computer Channel only corn oil.
I'm scared of opening my laptop even.
then don't. if it aint broke, don't fix it
unless you're the engineering/geek type. Fuck these fucking fuckers.
I'm using an ancient laptop and I need all the help anyhow, just getting all the crap out of the system. (I use canned air, but even that isn't as good as cleaning the fans.)
Pussy boy
@@sergiomendoza6648 sym dumbass fucking twat
i was too but u build confidence over time - better you do it then paying someone else to - good idea to ground yourself before working on laptop to discharge any static
Great walk through Dave. I used this to re-paste and under volt my XPS 9570. I was able to push it to -130 Mv, and with the re-pasting my load temps dropped from and average of 97 to 87. I also put pads on the voltage regulators and can definitely notice how much heat they transfer to the case now. The only difference is I used Throttle Stop, I found the Intel app reverting my settings after restart. I also use the profiles feature to disable Turbo and play with Speed Shift while on the battery. Everything seems to have helped quite a bit with battery life.
Cheers
Got the 9750 on release and I finally got thermal paste for it. It reaches too high temps even when undervolted. I'll be repasting it right now actually, hoping adding pads will also help with the temps.
I got my xps running at 25 degrees by bringing it's voltage to zero.
below ambient = beast mode
lol basically you give no food tot eh CPU it gonna hates u
If you lower the voltage to sub-zero values, can it cool a medium-sized room? :-D
@@travsformation1 😂😂
@@travsformation1 yes it creates a black hole which sucks heat out of the room into billions of light years away into space
Back when I used to look into PC tweaks more, the common method was to put some thermal compound on the chip, and then get it as spread evenly as possible with the end of a credit card or something. No one goes that far anymore I guess? The pressure from the heatsink should press the blob method into form, but probably not to quite the same degree of evenness I assume.
tipoomaste
People are worried about air bubbles when spreading, as they're supposedly more likely than just the blob.
If any small bubbles did exist with that method (and the goal of it is to get as close to none as possible), the heatsink pressure that's supposed to turn the blob into a flat surface in the first place would also even those out, no? It's probably moot anyways, as he showed the worst thing is too little paste and low quality paste.
ya i used to do that as well. I think the current techniques seem to give identical results with one less step
dave can you do a review of lenovo yoga 720 15" model as soon as possible
The Colgate brand my buddy recommended fried my PC 🙂
At least it has a nice mint aroma now.
Wait what? 😂
that 1 dentist was right
At least it runs cool noe
This guide is excellent, thanks for the tips! Just undervolted and improved my idle temps and performance by a lot. It almost completely stops thermal throttling during heavy tasks now!
I have a msi gs63vr stealth (not easy to do on this laptop) with i7 7700hq, 1060 6gb, ssd, and 16gb ram. While playing games I maintained temps ranging 87C-91C. After undervolting it lowered 78C-83C. Then I applied new thermal past and thermal pads (a lot of pads) it idels around 48C and underload I maintain 65C-75C. I was surprised on how many pad it had and the quality was very low to include the thermal past (poorly applied MSI needs to do a QA/QC). I want to thank D2D for making this video. 👍
So effectively you dropped temps under load from 91°C to 75°C? Nice! I can't undervolt my i5-3230m as Ivy Bridge was the last generation, which couldn't be undervolted... However, I successfully applied new thermal paste and... well, managed to drop temps by 3°C under load to about 75°C (cpu stress only). Guess stock paste was good already.
I wonder what my temps are going to be when i7-3630QM arrives. Might struggle with a little temperature throttling...
Hanebnik, yes. I was about to return the laptop due to the fans running loud. Im averaging about 69C while playing forza 7. It only peeks at 75C for a second. Let me know what your results are.
Kinda out of the blue, but do you remember the thickness of the thermal pads you used? (i.e. 0.5, 1.0, 1.5 mm)
nice job!
can you tell us what brand did you use for thermal paste and pad??
your ssd and ram are probably not worthy of mentioning, Jaime
This dude predicted mini sheilds before Fortnite was a thing
Oh shit
@@eoag3720 *September 25 2017
Exacta What I thought
Thank you! My gaming laptop used to run at around 93C, peaking at 98C. With -0.100V undervolting, it's now running at around 82C! I'm not gonna push further, satisfied with these results.
Four years out and still a informative and great video, thank you.
I've changed thermal paste on my PS3 and PS4, but for some reason never thought of doing it on laptops. Thanks!
The effort that went in this video is phenomenal.
I followed this and just undervolted my AW17 R4 with the i7700 down to -115 and after a 30 min cpu stress test its cruising at 58-63 Degrees Celsius! Thank you Dave xoxo
Laptop users : use xtu for under volting laptop for performance
Desktop user : use xtu to increase voltage and core clocks
Thanks for 437 likes, 😀
*clocks
@@iyad8644 u know typings is so difficult on mobile phones , always miss type
very big boy you cannot speak for everyone, typing could be difficult to a range of people
@Rage virus and zombification are 2 diverse concepts People buy gaming laptop precisely because they travel. This advice to buy PC over laptop is as stupid and stale.
@Rage virus and zombification are 2 diverse concepts are you sure its a gaming laptop? cause a 9th gen i5 + gtx 1600ti gaming laptop can run Witcher 3 @60fps on ultra
Why don't you just use your laptop underwater to keep it cool?
Because then an Octopus would come steal it.
thanks! now it runs smooth as a baby butt
That statement kinda sounded wrong and suspicious at the same time Sami...
***** more like you have a dirty mind
because your vision gets blurry underwater duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
Gotta say man, you are one of the best tech reviewer out there. I do like Marques, but I'm more into a guy just sitting infront of a camera and giving the info that i need. I will sure try reviewing tech. It deserves a shot..
He is not good enough, go watch Linus Tech Tips, Jaystwocent, etc
@@Betobum I prefer this guy linus sounds a bit too energetic for me (not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't like it personally). This guy has a calm voice and it just feels nice lol
Very useful, thanks. This will probably inspire me to finally open up my ol` laptop and do some digging around. I would like to see more content like this from you.
There is a good reason the manufacturers chose those voltages, do not be surprised if your laptop crashes on odd occasions when messing with them. reducing voltage raises the noise-floor hence bit-errors. This is akin to someone putting a K&N air filter on their new car thinking it will increase the power).
I would say that's the reason he said run Prime 95 overnight. Ofcourse I am not sure if Prime 95 would be sufficient to simulate all conditions a CPU might encounter in daily use.
because its a hack i got banned on my favorite minecraft server
dislike
Killua Zoldyck thanks so much
_KingCobra_ AND MY ROBLOX ACC GOT BANNED TOOO
Vorname _ dude we needa sue him
Another stupid comments detected.
BEcause of this hack, I got banned from Club Penguin and Toon TOWN!! DISLIKEEEEEEEEE!!!
Dave, my mom says she'll see you in court and my sister says you're a poopy head!!! We got so mad we threw our laptop out of our apartment window onto the street below. We are expecting in the mail our replacement laptop free of charge from you. Thank you, Dave Lee.
My laptop consistently runs hot. I accidentally left a video game running all day without realizing it once, and came back to find the CPU and GPU were sitting at about 90c. The keyboard was uncomfortably hot. My fans must have been working overtime too, because the next week one of them went bad. I've got a replacement fan, and some thermal paste, and I'm getting ready to do the repairs - I'm kind of nervous about it, though! I've done these sorts of repairs on desktops, but those are considerably easier than laptops. Wish me luck! :D
He's not responding so he failed
Joao Rocha HAHA
how did it go?
Sooo second degree burns? Third degree burns?
Sormflaith he. Fucked up
yay I have the xps 15 9560 - Thanks alot mate! You made me buy it as well :)
me too
Dave, you explain things in such an easy to understand, clear manner. Perfect for the lay community. Excellent delivery, as always. Thanks for the video, will be attempting it on my 9570.
At first i tought, that it is that clickbait sh*t for newbies, but it actually is helpful!
@@TabalugaDragon wanker
@@TabalugaDragon it would reduce thermal throttling and therefore increasing the extended period it can run at higher performance, reducing the time compute tasks take, so in a round about way, I'd say it's fair to call it a performance boost.
MSI GS60 with 6700HQ drops from 81° under load to 68° @ -.160v. Thanks for easiest improvement ever Dave!
How do you keep XTU persistent? Mine after restart all values are reset to default.
congrats, you won the silicon lottery.
My MSI GS63 Crashed when -210v. So far soo good at -200v
Went down from 100 to 80 degrees on my MacBook Pro '12 with "Haswell" 2.8 GHz Intel "Core i7" processor (4558U). Thank you for the tips!
I saw bunch of videos on how to apply thermal paste and decided to do it myself. I had older laptop so I first tried on that, then I moved to my current laptop and did everything by instructional video. Surprisingly not too difficult and after cleaning and new thermal paste, my laptop is way cooler.
could you do a guide for applying thermal paste and thermal pads to the new Razer blade or Razer blade 2016? It's been running really hot and that's the main complaint regarding the Razer blades, I feel like this could help alot of people. thanks :)
Would like to see this video too!
It's toasting me right now... -_-
Sean McGrath mine runs cool at 80c but a repaste could drop it more
shouldn't a new gaming laptop this expensive already have a good thermal paste? maybe it's just because its so thin
Pierre Stromae could be, although even the thicker laptops like Alienware, can throttle over 95c, laptop struggles
Extra tip, don't leave screws laying on the mainboard. Also, if you've never torn a laptop down before, label a diagram where your screws need to go when you put it back together.
imma gonna try this with my new razer blade stealth quad core.. :)
Thanks D2D for explaining and give the example and the final results.. simply the best..
Great vid. Tried the same thing with the same laptop. I didn't do a before and after for undervolting, but -130 mv works. Before and after applying liquid metal, from 77 to 60 degrees under cpu stress test before and after. It thermal throttles after ~1 min in full cpu and gpu load, after liquid metal, it stays around 80 degrees full cpu and GPU loads. still feels warm under left shift and backspace. The most notable difference is how quickly the fans turn off after stress, and how much computation you need to be doing for the fans to work up in the first place.
5:28
Just got a heart attack! Got relieved when he said he was joking!
🤣
it was satisfying tho
I undervolted my i7 6700HQ on Asus RoG GL552VW with -0.140 V. I think I'll leave it like this, don't want to push it any further as the results are amazing. Core temperature went down 10-15 °C and I'm really satisfied.
FabiWanDota I have the laptop, but an i7700. what do I undervolt it to?
7700HQ? Try risking -0.110V first.
Awesome! Thanks Dave. I'm not into over clocking but I love making my everyday gear more efficient. I'm totally going to do this for my XPS 13 9360 :)
Thanks! Appreciate it! I just repaste mine and it's never been better! Glad I found your video!
Hey Dave, awesome video man! But could you maybe make an updated video, discussing the "pump out" effect of thermal pastes. Leaving the stock thermal paste in your laptop might sometimes even be the better option in the long run, since a lot of high quality pastes with good thermals, might not last so long in a laptop on a bare die. This is a topic nobody is discussing really. :)
Hydronaut has been the only paste I found that is consistent. The temps are higher out of the gate than other pastes but it lasts longer than 3 days.
I bought some TFX and want to give it a shot, but I just read on the back of the container "silicone". Silicone is the reason why most pastes "pump out". It expands and falls off the bare die. Wish I would have done more research on it than just go off of people's short experiences. I think I'll just keep my silicone free Hydronaut for now.
i threw my laptop into the ocean and it worked great.
pros: super cool, ultra quiet, never throttles.
cons: you might loose some human performance if you have stage fear due the the penguin spectators.
Fucking hilarious!!!
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yes
I once opened my laptop to clean it because started running slow, and wiped clean the thermal paste from the cpu and was so proud of it, i thought "Ofc it was running slow, it had wet dust in it". Then laptop commits die
I know its too late and the age of this video means this will probably not be read but if it helps one person thats already good, but if you're replacing the thermal paste of a laptop, it is very important that you spread the thermal paste on the CPU/GPU die to cover it all. It's better to have a little extra than not enough since you should be using a non conductive paste anyways. the reason is that the die is much more sensitive to thermal temperatures if it isnt covered well, as opposed to CPU's in desktops that have lids .
Noted
I accidentally megaclocked my laptop to 350ghz, 9999GB of RAM & GTZ 1880Ti SLI
Best Troll Ever
Bob McCoy i to 420 GHz
Gibbyace axb How did you do that I only got 69GHz
those are rookie numbers bro
Somewhere out there the is that one dude with his sub zero liquid nitrogen cooled single core AMD processor that is like "challenge accepted"
I think now it's time for you to change your name from DAVE2D TO DAVE3D
Rushil Joshi Dave360
Rushil Joshi nope..he still cant make 3d games at his job😅..
Lol dude :D
Rushil Joshi DAVE2DEAD
Lol
Dave, Why did you stopped My Laptop Setup series?...we really miss them 😓
Thanks David! Just got a new laptop with a i7-8750H, managed to bring it to -0.170V before it finally blue screened. Currently sitting pretty at -0.165V and completely stable!
24Ufa how do you undervolt?
6:06 watch out! Having too much thermal isn't great neither because your CPU can be hotter than it should. I had this problem with a desktop PC, and I fixed it by replacing with a new one.
If you actually check out GamerNexus he clearly shows how too much thermal paste is not a real problem because in the end it's just spreads out even. For super cheap thermal paste yeah it might show some problems with too much paste but a decent paste shouldn't have any problems
you should mention that even if the system it's stable by undervolting the cpu you drasticly increase the chance of bad calculations by the CPU (Instability). So when you do p95 test you have to pay attention to the logs to see if there are miscalculations from the jobs (it will be a warning message). Hope this will help
2:00 as if my laptop would last 30 minutes under load without overheating xD
Older laptops like by 1st gen XPS 15 were amazingly easy to remove and do this. Also, there was so much space that you could run a water tube across all things that get hot.
also, this undervolting thing can improve battery life
I usually spray water on my Lenovo Y570 when I play games on it, worked well.
Lmao wut
Same dude works like a charm
I tried this and my laptop has a server level speed
What it will break do what i did with my Lenovo Y720 and just replace thermal paste
I play games in a pool
just curious, if there is a optimum voltage that can balance between performance and temperature, why isn't it the default setting by Intel? Is there any reason for the engineers to set the voltage a little bit beyond the optimum point ?
I think they prefer to take that measure, having more energy consumption, instead of making the ideal voltage setting, because then the risk of problem would be greater, dave himself quotes it in the video, he says: "do it on your own risk"
you're right
Jason Ng+ The manufacturer sets the voltage where ALL of that series of CPU will reliably run. They are limited so more power doesn't make them run faster, it just turns into waste heat.
They set a voltage that will work across a larger number of CPUs to increase yield. Intel would rather have all of their chips running on a little bit extra voltage if it means more of them will be usable. Some CPUs need all the voltage, others don't. It would be nice if Intel fine tuned each chip, but that is simply not feasible for them to do.
Germanator, but you can optimize voltage for your particular chip. The voltage has a cap at the upper limit but it is not locked so you can undervolt them.
Dave, give us more videos like this! Awesome work, thanks!
No RGB ? Disappointed.
TestMan lol
What if you apply a mix of red, green and blue thermal paste? does that count?
Slat3 will it have rgb LEDs?
Yeah! Throwing in some RGB on my ASUS ROG laptop got me an extra 7 FPS in Crysis 3! :P
really hard to do on a MacBook Pro :)
GamerDude9004 savage
GamerDude9004 the good thing about the world is choice and honestly apple makes solid computers, it just depends on what u want
i did this on my macbook pro 13" 2012 and it wasn't that bad and really helped a lot!!
not if youre running windows lol
Apple made this in the fabric.. so you don't have to do it again.
The Core Voltage Offset is disabled for me. How should I enable it?
Install older versions of XTU.
XTU disabled new versions of undervolting on some laptops other than the supported new intel CPU's.
Typical horseshit of intel for making us buy new shit instead of using the current one.
Thanks David Lee! I have a Dell Inspiron 13-5378 laptop with the Intel Core i3 7100U. I repasted the CPU & the core voltage offset is now at -0.089V (89mV) via Intel XTU. Any lower and it blue screens. So far, so good.
big thumb's up for dave !
I don't have avoltage control bar, hp EliteBook Folio 9470m i5 3427u 4gb ram, all help is apprecheated
well that's a shame, II mean I guess I can still control the overall power delivery so that's something
rip u
Couldn't find it either on my i7 3632QM, was looking forward to undervolting :(
I have a 3720qm in my Elitebook and research says no voltage control. :(
For those who need it, I have a Acer Nitro 5, i7 9750h, rtx 2060 and I've been able to undervolt up to -0,165 V .
i used these two methods for my acer nitro 5, cpu used to hit 90-95, now it is at 75-80 on full load. thx dave :)
Values ?
if anyone wants to know i have an asus rog strix gl502vm gtx 1060 and i7 6700HQ and was able to go as far as -.180 doing the XTU cpu stress test but then i had to change it to -.160 because anything lower than that would make it crash or bluescreen while intensive periods of witcher 3 at ultra settings.
+3 fps
*Breathtaking!*
Dude this is not an "overclocking to increase your fps" guide
Gonna save this for when i can afford a laptop
Can you afford a laptop yet
@@pingmann yeah I am curious af
Just sell something
Undervolting is now a built-in feature with the HP Omen Command Center, so happy companies are bringing this feature.
Don't you have to undervolt your laptop everytime you reboot it?
nope. automatic with XTU
Hi Dave , what about Cache and iGpu should i undervolt as well?
And do you need to keep XTU open for it to work? Thanks in advance :)
I was wondering if I could uninstall XTU after doing all the tweaks ?
okay so im tech savvy so ive already done the retermal pasting... But my question is will lowering the voltage on my CPU lower my FPS on my MSI Gaming Laptop?
If undervolting results in lower temperatures, then that means that it can keep turbo boost for longer/more consistently so performance shouldn't be any worse.
generally when overclocking you're turning the voltage UP and you would get better performance so it would seem to make sense that undervolting would get less performance, yes.
Its Neight only if you underclock, what he is saying is that there is a margin where you can lower the voltage and keep the performance the same with lower temps which can actually improve slightly the performance without messing with anything else, that happens because the manufacturer provide the standard laptop with too much voltage for the current clock, so you can reduce that voltage without reducing the clock, voltage is only the fuel it don't add or subtract performance, the clock does, so your laptop will run cooler for longer and if you are having heating problems before the performance will actually improve, even though it seems strange, the ideal way to improve performance is increase voltage increase clock but for that you need to increase COOLING, and in a laptop that won't happen, so you just avoid overheating and get a few frames improvement in a few games with no drawbacks if you do it properly.
If you just undervolt and not underclock you'll likely be fine, just don't undervolt it too much.
not at all, it actually helps putting down the temps. If you're suffering with throttling, this defenitely helps you
I put thermal paste on my ti-84 and now I don't have to reset the ram Everytime I want to play snake.
After 4 years I applied new paste and thermal pads on my XPS 15 9560. Idle temp went from 47°C to 37°C!
best laptop for college and little gaming?
Marian Simarro González acer vx 15, it has better performance than the dell 7567, and it also has an IPS display and has a usb c port
Marian Simarro González Probably the Inspiron 7567 with a 1050Ti, he put a video out on it about a month ago. You could also always try to pick up a used last gen laptop with a 960m, 965m or even a 970m for cheap (it'll probably be one of those 5-8 pound bricks though).
Also your question is a bit vague, a lot of it depends on what games you want to play and what you want to spend. That is a pretty good starting point though.
You could also get something like the XPS 15 with a 960m if your expectations on gaming aren't too crazy and you want a smaller, lighter computer.
the new XPS with 1050, if the price isn't a problem. other than that, there is dell Inspiron 7000 series, also good. And the 800$ Acer and Dell ones with gtx 1050, they aren't as well built as the others but they're almost similar in specs and a bit heavy.
Marian Simarro González dell xps 15
Marian Simarro González Razer Blade
Only apply thermal paste as a a last resort? I'm thinking under-vollting should be good in most cases.
does this last forever? or should i do this every time i want to boost my computer?
Maxisu Exas the undervolt lasts forever, but if you are feeling picky you can replace thermal compound every 4 years which you don't need to do
William Mayberry more like every month lol
No, like every 2 years
Or every 4 years with amd cards
(Badumm tsssss)
William Mayberry well, that's good. but still i don't know if it's worth the shot i've opened my laptop a lot but i've never played with the system before or even get to know what undervolting is. after all i don't really care to lower down the temperatures cuz my laptop is well cooled but the idea of making your laptop play games faster is pretty interesting.
The software boost will stick until / unless something changes it back..
The thermal paste it depends on what kind you get and use..
Your normal quality type thermal paste (Think Noctua NT-H1 or ARCTIC MX-4) should be fine for the life of the laptop.. The ONLY time you would even think of bothering to reapply the thermal paste is if the temperatures start to go back up.. If they are not, then no reason to clean off perfectly good paste after any period of time.
It is not the age of the paste that matters - It is the performance..
If temperatures start to go back up after a year then open the Laptop out clean out the fans and after you take off the heatsink you put new paste on.
ALWAYS use new paste after taking off the heatsink.. Do not take it off - see that it looks ok and just put the heatsink back on.. Always clean off the old paste and put on new. (So be prepared with new paste to replace old paste)
One other thing.. Storing what is left over in the tube you get.. Do not pull the plunger back up as this will introduce air into the tube - Put CAP back on firmly then put the whole tube in say a zip lock back and remove all the air (does not need to be a complete vacuum just not all puffy)..
This should keep for a few years.. You will know it is not good because it will be harder and dried out when you try to use it again..
I undervolted my Hp Spectre 4K by -110 and it stays a solid 10degrees Celsius cooler now it’s great. All thanks to this video.
Ill practice this on my dying laptop first lmao
Being an Indian, even for 12$ I need to beg it from parents 🙂
how could you afford the laptop
@@alarcomics4195 Speaking of buying a laptop in India is too expensive as compare to the US guys.
My Acer nitro 5 get sold in US at $600 that is near ₹44k in Indian currency. However, I bought it at ₹60k (₹16k more; perhaps due to some taxes).
Now, what could be bought at $600 in US is could be purchased at ₹11k in India. This is something called PPP (purchasing power parity) that is used to compare economy between two countries. So, it turns out that if I had been living in US I would have paid more than 5 times less for the same laptop than what I have paid in India. It also means Indians pay more taxes to buy a laptop than US people do to buy the whole machine. LMAO 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
In US $3k will allow you to buy the same things you would have bought in India at ₹60k.
I hope I was able to put some light towards the struggle our families make to buy us a laptop with even way lower annual income than the US families.
@@nilanjanmukhopadhyay8369 damnnnnn thanks for sharing
@@nilanjanmukhopadhyay8369 can you tell me where you bought acer nitro 5 for 60k. I see it for 69k everywhere (even in local shops hyd)
@@beastthemonster3675 During great Indian sale the i5 version was priced 60k and I bought the r5 version in 52k. Acer Nitro 5 is one of the most sought out laptops. That's why prices have been increased. The r5 version is unavailable and the i5 version is now priced at 69k.
I added a little bit of yeast to my thermal paste, and now my laptop looks like a boombox!
Finally reapplied thermal paste on my gpu and cpu on my laptop. Went from 95C to 59C, you’re a god dave2d
im on i7 7700hq in -125mv stable system temp stay well under 80-85
Is that the mini shield potions from Fortnite... BEFORE Fortnite was a thing?? God, EPIC just loves stealing ideas
I can’t tell if you’re joking.
Finally i watch it!! After so many times youtube suggest this. Like usual i put a like before i watch it in all your content
Coming from PC gaming. I never understood why overclocking tutorials on laptops were telling me to undervolt till now. Thanks for at least giving a brief explanation.
"I like to do a small blob and then a small Line"
-Dave Lee 2017-
Clicked on this because I thought it was "12 hacks to boost your laptop..."
I thought I was the only one 😂
i did this on my Asus Rog Strix GL503 Hero edition by -0.120 but it did not change anything
dati jibuti did you click apply?
Just applied thermal paste on my thermal paste.
It can run Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing and DLSS on and still give out 60 fps
is it worth to undervolt a 2nd gen i3?
Doesn't work for processors older than 4th gen.
otherwise I would *definitely* undervolt the first gen i7 I have on my backup laptop...
I have fuckin i5 460M.
Jesus that's old
Ümit Yılmaz so is that like a first gen Mobil cpu?
Amazing video bud , how about i7 6820hq witch voltage should be ? Thanks in advance
your moms age, time the square root of your age
What test do you do on Prime95 overnight after undervolting the CPU?
Ummm, the "stress every core" test, i'd imagine
I tried this and it drastically reduced the temprature for my Asus TUF 15. Thanks bro for the advise. I used Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.