Worked in test for five years now, would reccomend to anyone to try if they are curious. I was a print shop manager before and initially had to take a pay cut, but I managed to overcome that in two or so years. For me that was my biggest challenge but now that is off the table I get to focus on being good at my job and helping others to be good at theirs. I love it when you do these cos I show them to people interested in getting in, but to me the greatest reward is that I get to teach others and impact change. A huge driver for me is mastery, and you never feel like you are done with and there is just so much to learn that I never really feel stale. For most people the first one or two places they work might suck but its worth keeping at it, it's a fantastic career and you can carve out what you want the role to be 💜
if u r a tester, it would be very very helpful to learn to code, even a bit. I have seen QA lose their jobs cause they couldn't code, even when it wasn't a requirement in the first place. also gives u an edge when applying and doing interviews. also remember most people on the interviews tables might be developers and might come up with tech questions and all.
Thanks, thought I'd try something a bit more informal. Not sure if I need a new web cam or not though since the pixellation wasn't expected... every video is a new learning experience :)
I did intensionally want to learn Software Testing as an easy route. But perhaps I wanted to be a software engineer to test. I know if I wanted to be a car mechanic I would rather , test and diagnose then pull out the engine and do a cam belt change. I can do that but for some reason it always takes me longe then others..
Speed comes through repeated practice and gradual building of proficiency. If you can make the change and do the test and diagnosis then you'll see the bigger picture and have the ability to handle any variety that the development process throws your way.
I was thinking about GitHub as a tester. It could be an easy route to open source contributions and to get that developer job. However, I do think I might actually enjoy testing. I haven't tested it yet.
Hello, why software testing is important? I see that in corporations, testing is left a little behind, or sometimes ignored. It is a job of the future and in which directions you can develop as a tester? It is true that the job of developer is the most important in a project/company/long-term? I see more programmer jobs, more tutorials, courses, mentors, etc. than software testing
I think I cover most of the answers in this video ruclips.net/video/iOA3lxZyFwA/видео.html There are many directions to develop it just depends on you, and the opportunities that you either get at work, or make by building your profile and experience. There will be more tuturials, courses etc. for programming. Partly because there are more programmers so there is more money to be made in creating content for that audience. There is a lot of information out there on testing, but it can be hard to find 'good' information because some of what we need to learn is harder to explain than a coding example. Software testing is important because we test to find out the true state of the software, not just our beliefs about the software.
Hi, i have a question for you, i dont know if you see it, or if you response it but I do need an answer. Is there a pschological test during the interview for a software testing job? I want to learn software testing in a training center from zero, i studied physical geography in university. I have bipolar, i am afraid i would not be able to pass the psychological test after studying everthing then could not get any offer.
Not me. But... since you're asking, that is a good strategy, so don't limit your ask to just me. Find more people, keep asking. And in parallel, find a way to demonstrate online using a blog, or your linkedin profile, or github, or twitter... the learning you are engaged in, the practice you are doing, and the value you can add
Unfortunately different companies and recruiters look for different things. If you want to get an idea then look at jobs being advertised in your area, at the skill level that you are looking for, and you'll see the type of skills and buzzwords to build some sort of experience in for your CV and online profile.
Hi! I have been a game tester 1 year and then I have made the mistake to change to recruitment. I want to get back at testing, this time for software, I have realized I am more of a technical person...it`s harder for me to post things as "I am interested in QA" (in description), "finished this course on..." or "read my blog on" as I might lose my current job before coming back to QA, my candidates will see this, my manager also...What to do?
It is hard for me to imagine that someone might lose their job for being interested in a subject and bloggig about it or training in it. But if that is your concern then you can keep your blog etc. 'secret' i.e. don't link to them on your Linkedin profile, instead link to them from the CV that you send out. Keep your 'notes' on github as markdown, and they can be readable, or use gitpages. I suspect that your manager will be too busy with their current work to monitor your social profile but if you think that would happen then keep it secret... and apply to as many jobs as possible to get a better working environment.
These days, the first round of most interviews has coding problems like two sum, K-th longest substring, reverse integer etc. They *generally* don't ask anything about testing in the 1st round. Testing comes only in later rounds. So, coding is mandatory and so are data structures & algorithms. I guess recruiters & hiring teams are swamped with resumes most of the time, even more so due to the pandemic. So they just need some way to filter candidates. Sometimes, people just don't know how to hire. If only someone could make a high level guideline for recruiters and a deep level guide for QA managers.
Unfortunately many companies don't know what they need so they think that by hiring people with a wide range of skills then they can adapt. Sometimes the people they hire have very shallow skills and it doesn't work. I suspect if someone did make a high level guideline, people wouldn't actually read it.
@@EvilTester - yes, many people don't read the "manual". But, if the guideline is truly helpful, then it might become popular. Those who still ignore it might miss good candidates.
I'm re-organising and tidying up my site at the moment and I have a "career advice" tag that will eventually collate all my career and recruitment stuff in www.eviltester.com/categories/career-advice/
Worked in test for five years now, would reccomend to anyone to try if they are curious.
I was a print shop manager before and initially had to take a pay cut, but I managed to overcome that in two or so years.
For me that was my biggest challenge but now that is off the table I get to focus on being good at my job and helping others to be good at theirs.
I love it when you do these cos I show them to people interested in getting in, but to me the greatest reward is that I get to teach others and impact change.
A huge driver for me is mastery, and you never feel like you are done with and there is just so much to learn that I never really feel stale.
For most people the first one or two places they work might suck but its worth keeping at it, it's a fantastic career and you can carve out what you want the role to be 💜
Thanks Ashley. Thanks for contributing your experience. Every experience report helps people see additional possibilities. Thank you.
if u r a tester, it would be very very helpful to learn to code, even a bit. I have seen QA lose their jobs cause they couldn't code, even when it wasn't a requirement in the first place. also gives u an edge when applying and doing interviews. also remember most people on the interviews tables might be developers and might come up with tech questions and all.
DUDE, your awesome, answered all my questions, happy to sub. thanks! from a junior tester
Thanks for the sub!
Alan thanks a lot for this great guiding and motivating video
Thank you very much for these videos
Thank you, very inspirational!
Great video - loving the new set up Alan 🙌
Thanks, thought I'd try something a bit more informal. Not sure if I need a new web cam or not though since the pixellation wasn't expected... every video is a new learning experience :)
I did intensionally want to learn Software Testing as an easy route. But perhaps I wanted to be a software engineer to test. I know if I wanted to be a car mechanic I would rather , test and diagnose then pull out the engine and do a cam belt change. I can do that but for some reason it always takes me longe then others..
Speed comes through repeated practice and gradual building of proficiency. If you can make the change and do the test and diagnosis then you'll see the bigger picture and have the ability to handle any variety that the development process throws your way.
17:12 "you could create github repos that have bugs"
finally something i am an expert in
I was thinking about GitHub as a tester. It could be an easy route to open source contributions and to get that developer job. However, I do think I might actually enjoy testing. I haven't tested it yet.
Hello, why software testing is important? I see that in corporations, testing is left a little behind, or sometimes ignored. It is a job of the future and in which directions you can develop as a tester? It is true that the job of developer is the most important in a project/company/long-term? I see more programmer jobs, more tutorials, courses, mentors, etc. than software testing
I think I cover most of the answers in this video ruclips.net/video/iOA3lxZyFwA/видео.html
There are many directions to develop it just depends on you, and the opportunities that you either get at work, or make by building your profile and experience.
There will be more tuturials, courses etc. for programming. Partly because there are more programmers so there is more money to be made in creating content for that audience. There is a lot of information out there on testing, but it can be hard to find 'good' information because some of what we need to learn is harder to explain than a coding example.
Software testing is important because we test to find out the true state of the software, not just our beliefs about the software.
@@EvilTester Thabk you for the answer
@@EvilTester Thank you sir!
Hi, i have a question for you, i dont know if you see it, or if you response it but I do need an answer.
Is there a pschological test during the interview for a software testing job? I want to learn software testing in a training center from zero, i studied physical geography in university. I have bipolar, i am afraid i would not be able to pass the psychological test after studying everthing then could not get any offer.
That depends on the employer, not the role. Some people want psychological tests during/prior interviews. Most do not.
@@EvilTester Thank you Sir for the response. I'll be considering about it .
I hope I can be a SW tester Manual/Automated. I am willing to learn and eager for this career. Maybe you could help me find a job right now
Not me. But... since you're asking, that is a good strategy, so don't limit your ask to just me. Find more people, keep asking. And in parallel, find a way to demonstrate online using a blog, or your linkedin profile, or github, or twitter... the learning you are engaged in, the practice you are doing, and the value you can add
Sir can you please explain me the resume structure and important skills to find job in testing field
Unfortunately different companies and recruiters look for different things. If you want to get an idea then look at jobs being advertised in your area, at the skill level that you are looking for, and you'll see the type of skills and buzzwords to build some sort of experience in for your CV and online profile.
Hi! I have been a game tester 1 year and then I have made the mistake to change to recruitment. I want to get back at testing, this time for software, I have realized I am more of a technical person...it`s harder for me to post things as "I am interested in QA" (in description), "finished this course on..." or "read my blog on" as I might lose my current job before coming back to QA, my candidates will see this, my manager also...What to do?
It is hard for me to imagine that someone might lose their job for being interested in a subject and bloggig about it or training in it. But if that is your concern then you can keep your blog etc. 'secret' i.e. don't link to them on your Linkedin profile, instead link to them from the CV that you send out. Keep your 'notes' on github as markdown, and they can be readable, or use gitpages. I suspect that your manager will be too busy with their current work to monitor your social profile but if you think that would happen then keep it secret... and apply to as many jobs as possible to get a better working environment.
@@EvilTester Thanks a lot for your reply and advice. I will do my best! Take care!
These days, the first round of most interviews has coding problems like two sum, K-th longest substring, reverse integer etc. They *generally* don't ask anything about testing in the 1st round. Testing comes only in later rounds. So, coding is mandatory and so are data structures & algorithms. I guess recruiters & hiring teams are swamped with resumes most of the time, even more so due to the pandemic. So they just need some way to filter candidates. Sometimes, people just don't know how to hire. If only someone could make a high level guideline for recruiters and a deep level guide for QA managers.
Unfortunately many companies don't know what they need so they think that by hiring people with a wide range of skills then they can adapt. Sometimes the people they hire have very shallow skills and it doesn't work. I suspect if someone did make a high level guideline, people wouldn't actually read it.
@@EvilTester - yes, many people don't read the "manual". But, if the guideline is truly helpful, then it might become popular. Those who still ignore it might miss good candidates.
I'm re-organising and tidying up my site at the moment and I have a "career advice" tag that will eventually collate all my career and recruitment stuff in www.eviltester.com/categories/career-advice/
@@EvilTester