I’m a little over 6 feet and about 215 pounds. I have a Beaufort jacket, size 46. It fits perfectly on the shoulders. I bought a zip in liner. Once that is in place, it fits perfectly. Beauforts are designed to be worn over a suit jacket or a bulky sweater. They require upkeep, but their water resistance is legendary. Look after it, and it will give you years of service.
Old sport, I'm about your size. I'm looking at the Beaufort with the zip in liner. What is the coldest temp you've worn your jacket in? Could/would you go colder with a chunky wool sweater? Best Regards,
@@charliefoxtrot7219 It’s cool in the mornings here. About 8 degrees. I make do without the liner. I also bought a Barbour Derby Tweed sweater. There’s room for either. If say the liner would go in at 5 degrees or lower. I’ll let you know when I have to put the liner in.
I vote Bedale. Thanks for doing this review. Comprehensive, detailed, and insightful. Idk if I’d wear it w/a suit, but 100% for business casual or even jeans & sweater.
Excellent review. The Bedale is an equestrian jacket designed to be worn while riding. The snap flap at the bottom of the Bedale is designed so the coat tail will drape over the back of the saddle when riding. The gusseted sleeves are also designed with riding in mind as the gussets keep wind from blowing up the sleeve when riding at speed. The nylon "skirt" is on the Bedale so moisture will not wick up the cotton lining if riding in the rain. The Beaufort is designed to be an upland hunting jacket. The longer length allows for more protection from briars and the slightly lower hand warmer pockets allow for more comfortable cradling of a shotgun while walking. The game pouch is self explanatory. I find the game pouch ideal for storing a scarf or even a light sweater.
@@sc1 I have both and love them both. I find I wear the Beaufort more because it is easier to slip on and off since it doesn't have the sleeve gussets. I do think the Bedale looks better when I'm wearing it although I get compliments on both jackets.
Like you, I am 5'-7" tall but larger in chest and waist. I think the Bedale model is the best option for those of us who are shorter in height. I am looking forward to purchasing my first Barbour jacket soon ! Many thanks for doing this video as it was EXTREMELY HELPFUL and INFORMATIVE ! Wear your Barbour's in good health - Happy Holidays !
In the game pocket I’d store the hood and my cashmere scarf. Perfect for when the weather turns while you are out. One of the best reviews I’ve seen. Thanks keep doing them.
Lovely comparison. Luckily here in the UK we can walk in the stores and try them all on and find the perfect fit. For me the Beaufort wins. It’s the classic jacket and I love the ‘game pocket’ very handy when out. Super jackets that are as fashionable as practical.
The Bedale is a horse riding jacket, the Beaufort is a hunting jacket. That is the reason for the Bedale being shorter. Your "correct" style also depends on where you live. If in Florida a closer fit is fine, in Canada my size 40 Beaufort is my correct size as I need to wear a proper British jumper under it when it gets colder.
Great review. I have had my Beaufort for over 30 years but have not worn it so much. Have found it too baggy but still like the feel. On the other hand I have used my Burberry trench coats a lot more. Sunspel has excellent English style casual clothing. Really enjoy your videos.
It’s a great coat for the fall. It is, and has been, worn by the Royal Family, and was awarded 3 Royal Warrants. I think these jackets work very well with my Blackhorse Lane Denim (from the UK), Real McCoy’s Chinos, Drake’s Oxford BD (from the UK) and my Viberg Service Boots (from Canada).
Well done. A very nice post. I have a Beaufort in Sage and a Classic Bedale. I enjoy both of them. I tend to wear the Beaufort a little more often because of the Beaufort poacher pocket and for the inside pocket for my cell phone - it's more convenient to use than the Bedale's inner pocket. Although I do not hunt, that poacher pocket comes in very hand e.g., for an extra dog leash, dog tug, ball, book, newspaper, etc, leaving both hand free. Additionally, I do like the Beaufort style and the Bedale's style is similar. IMHO they are both great waxed jackets and one cannot go wrong with opting for either jacket.
@@sc1 I have both jackets in the same size. Both jackets fit me well. I decided to take a slightly larger size. The reason I did so is because during winter I frequently wear a jacket, a warm bulky sweater or a vest under the jacket. The larger size provides me with a good range of motion when the jacket is zipped up.. Additionally, there have been several times when I have worn either jacket over a suit during inclement weather. Excellent jackets for nearly any occasion! 😀
Nice review, I own the Bedale after ordering both and trying them on at home. I ended up buying a Bedale for wife and daughter. My son bought the Ashby, which is a a more fitted jacket which required him to go one size up. The two colors are navy and sage, the olive looked too brown. Thanks for doing the visual comparison!
I think the Bedale is the better choice. I wouldn’t buy the Ashby, because it might be too tight on me. And I prefer the extra room for layering, which the Bedale 36C provides for me. And I like the color out of the box. But we’ll see how the color ages over time…
Great video. I live in London but we have an old cottage in the country and I have been looking for a new walking coat. I thought about a Barbour several times but always gone for the modern technical jackets. However, I think the time is right. Having looked at a few videos I am going for the Beaufort. Not the most stylish, but practical.
@@sc1 😁 I don’t have a country estate, more like a small old Thatched Cottage, in a small village in rural England. But it has some wonderful walks in the countryside
@@sc1If you get the chance watch an episode of Emmerdale it’s an English soap that has been going for over 30 years based in an Yorkshire village & nearly all the cast wear Barbour jackets
I’m from the UK and I have two Bedales , I would say these are a wear virtually anywhere and any season especially if you buy a Barbour liner , the Beaufort and Bedale are both made in England and are excellent quality, literally anything on these jackets can also be repaired through Barbour and with age they have a lovely patina , at the moment I’m looking to buy the Beaufort , I would buy either the olive or green jackets as they age better , good luck to you all 👍
I don’t see Barbour worn very much here. I’m wondering how common they are seen in the UK. I was thinking of getting a liner, but will just try layering for now.
@@sc1 Barbour is popular in the UK but not to the point where everyone is wearing one , they are a timeless classic and the quality in the Bedale is excellent. The liners are a nice touch and are often lined with the matching tartan fabric which makes them feel a bit special, good luck to you 👍
unfortunately, most of the time it's not made in the UK. Their production comes mostly from Turkey, China and Vietnam (you'll find some interesting articles about this on the internet). When buying a Barbour, you have to make sure the tag "made in England" is there. More specifically, their Ashby jackets mostly come from Moldavia.
Just adding for clarity - I have a Bedale and an International. The Bedale is made in England. The International, however, is made in Bulgaria. So, if the country of origin is important, I strongly suggest looking at the tag, or asking the question if you’re purchasing online.
Basically you need to try on if at all possible and consider when you may wear it and what else you will put on. My Bedale wears great with a country shirt but too small when wearing layered clothing. The Beaufort is for winter, late autumn and early spring with pullovers.
The reason why the Queen Elizabeth wore a Beaufort was because it could accomade a spare crown in the rear pocket ! That poachers pocket is huge ! A hat , gloves . Hood , flask of tea , a pack lunch and a crown will fit in that backpack sized picket with ease . The side pocket with a zip is handy for a phone or a wallet . The inner sleeves are better then the Bedale and without layering the Bedale could make you look like a pear , with its boxy shape. Defo the Beaufort for me !
I think the Bedale fit should naturally be a little loose to take into account the layering that will likely happen beneath. I am a 42" chest and my 40" Bedale is the perfect balance between fit and longterm function.
My chest measures about 37' and my bedale is size C36. I still have enough room to layer, and I can wear a sweater underneath or a fleece vest, or a suit jacket.
Brought the Bedale from an outlet store 10 years ago & loved it there’s something you can buy to zip into them that makes them warm enough for cold weather can’t remember the name but you can still buy them & it fits different Barbour jackets
I've heard that the older Barbour has button in liners. Newer ones as early as 2010 zip in. So if anyone owns a vintage Barbour, they may want to write the company about a button in liner.
If you want a warmer option there is also the Northumbria, it’s a longer coat, fit similar to the Beaufort although has two internal poachers pockets (removable and waterproof) rather than the one across the back. It’s also made from an 8oz waxed cotton whereas the Bedale and Beaufort are both 6oz waxed cotton, you notice the difference in weight wearing it! Only warning for that one is the hoods do not quite match (even though they are advertised as the same colour), I originally had the same hood as yours (the classic sylkoil hood) but have switched to the storm hood as the colour match is closer (although not quite perfect), although in time I am sure they will age similarly.
I’ve just bought a Beafort, a 38 as i already got a 38 Navy Bedale (and an Antique Heritage Bedale in Sage, but this is slightly slim in cut). The Beaufort feels way slimmer than the Bedale, which wears with the typical Bell fit.
3/26/24 Thanks for the video. I have several Beaufort jackets. Two in 48 and one in 46. I actually wear a size 50 sport coat and can size down quite a bit. This is exaggerated even more in the Bedale as you suggested. I bought a 46 Bedale and the chest size is 28 inches across which is akin to a size 56 sport coat. It fits like an XXXL. It is unusable in my opinion. I’ve ordered a size 44 in a Bedale and will see if this is a better fit. Seems strange to wear a 50 suit coat but have to buy a 44 Barbour Bedale to fit well. Very inconsistent sizing between the different models.
I'm normally a slim 38 in everything but the Bedale runs HUGE. I sized down to a 36 like you did. Main issue is the sleeves run a bit short. Still feels boxy even in a 36. I liked the Bedale because I wanted the brown color. I dislke the massive collar size and trademark circle zipper though. Also wish the handwarmers were lower down. The more I write here the more I realize I need to just sell this jacket. I like the length of the bedale on you but actually prefer the trimmer chest of the beaufort. The bedale just looks SO boxy. I snagged mine for only $180.
Fair points, but I like the extra room to layer in the Bedale. I want to comfortably wear a thick sweater or even a sports coat underneath. you must be taller than me, because the sleeves were just right, and the jacket length looked too long on the Beaufort.
Beaufort! Better looking and more practical! I have used my Beaufort for 17 years! It's a jacket you can use for every occasion! Only waxed it once! And it gets better with age.👍
In the game pocket I’d store permanently the hood, and occasionally some groceries, magazines, books, whatever I don't want to carried by hand and is not to heavy. I used it all the time!
Thanks for the confirmation. I am also short 5'8 and weigh about 175. I wear a 40S suit jacket and am thinking about getting the Bedale in size 38. I was worried because I have short arms but that doesnt seem to be an issue.
Barbour jackets are great and will probably last you a lifetime if well taken care of. However, I recommend making sure there is the "Made in England" tag on the inside, as many Barbour jackets are now made in Asia or Eastern Europe.
@@sc1 if you live in the UK then it’s most likely yes, but in other parts of Europe/world more and more people are complaining that it’s not made in England, which I can understand considering that you pay the same price for a made in Moldavia and a made in England Ashby jacket
@@theoldman5924 The Made in England still applies to their core lineup, i.e. the Beaufort, Bedale, and Border. It can be recognized by sizing in numbers instead of S, M, L, etc.
At least, Bedale and Beaufort are made in ENG. Not sure about Border. Ashby and other model are usually made in Moldavia or China. However, the quality is quite the same, don't worry.
I want to order Beaufort but don’t know which size to choose :/ i am 183cm tall, 84kg, 110cm chest and more athletic fit. Can’t decide if 40 or 42 be better for me
I tried the Beaufort size 40……man the arms are short so I went for 42 just to get the arms to fit. I’m always going to wear a sweater with it…..so fit is fine.
Bedale is short due to not riding up when used for intended perpose,equestrian. Bottom of it opens out to go over saddle and front of trousers while sitting. Some use as fashionable jackets that like a slim fit ,go down a size then find sleeves are to short,correct size they should be quite baggie to accommodate layering for different seasons. Most prefer these as lighter,slightly less chest tolerance than the Beaufort, I use both,Beaufort is heavier material and bigger all round ,for layering during the winter months. Has a great game pocket to put quarry in or while using in the city,shopping etc. Both fantastic outdoor jackets.
I like the fit of the shorter length Bedale on me. But yes, I am not the target audience hunter or equestrian. I don’t ride horses, or capture game. I Just like wearing a quality garment that keeps out the rain, and allows for layering.
@sc1 Doesn't matter really what you use for ,still a great quality product that will last test of time and very versatile. Enjoy and I'm sure you'll add to your collection over time.
I have the same classic bedale and in my opinion the bedale is more comfortable for daily use. But I think you should be bought one size down,, it looks like to big
The game pouch was the perfect place to put my college block when I was at university. Today i would put my Tablet there, due to the fact it is waterproof.
I’m currently looking for a Barbour and tried on a few today. I tried on the Ashby, which is the slimmer version of the Bedale and it was way too short on me. Then I tried the Beaufort and it was perfect. However, I’m 6’3” with a chest size of 38”. The Bedale looks more in proportion for yourself.
The Bedale works best for me. But I am not 6’3”. I am only 5’7”. I’m not interested in the slimmer Ashby. I would rather have some room to layer. Given your height, I would really consider getting the Beaufort.
@@sc1 Yes, I prefer the fuller cut too for layering. The Ashby was too tight under the arms. I only tried it as my local department store only stocked those two models. I’ll be going for the Beaufort. I thought I may need the Border being tall, but the Beaufort was fine.
@@paulmcgrew2932 I tried the 38 and the 40. The 38 fit and looked great on me, the 40 was a little too large in the body. However, it’s still warm here in England, so I only had a thin merino wool jumper on as a layer, so need to go back and try them on with a thicker lambswool jumper. I don’t want it tight around the arm holes. I went to the department store for trousers, so trying on the Barbours was just to gauge if I liked them or not after seeing photos. The Beaufort I tried on was also the 40th Anniversary model if that makes any difference to sizing. It’s tough for me as I’m very slim with wide shoulders. My waist is 31”.
@@paulmcgrew2932 Update! I’m going to have to retract my original statement, I returned today to spend more time with them and the sleeves on the 38” Beaufort are an inch too short for me when I relax my arms to the side. Seeing as I’ll be wearing it in damp weather it’s a dealbreaker. The body was perfect otherwise, this time I wore a thicker jumper and it was fine, not restricted at all on the upper body. The 40” was fine on the sleeves, but is just too big in the body for me. Looks like I’ll have to buy a Border (or similar) in 38!
Its a great Übergangsjacke. 2 Decades ago i tried to buy one, but they had nothing in my Size. I might give them a 2nd try. Ill check out the Beaufort. Or trhe Ashby/Border Lines.
The Bedale is designed for the equestrian folk wheras the Beaufort is more for the hunting, shooting and fishing people. They were never intended to be fashion items. Which category do you fall in. If none better to buy a Goretex jacket.....no grease no odours and washable.
I don’t hunt fish or ride horses and I think these jackets look amazing. Just because a clothing item wasn’t intended to be a fashion item doesn’t mean it can’t be used for fashion. Look at workwear
I guess that is the reason for the bedale having the fabric cuffs and the Beaufort (and my Northumbria) having the polyester cuffs, if you are shooting you arms will be up more so the fabric cuffs will hold more water. I don’t use mine for shooting so may send to Barbour to get the fabric cuffs.
great video mate!!!i just recently bought my first barbour..classic bedale all the way..im glad i watched your video before i buy..im also 5’7” 68kg sz 36 is the right size for me.. im just confused regarding the tag my barbour only have 2 royal warrant printed not 3..😅😅😅..
Great Choice! I am considering getting the zip-in Barbour liner for the winter, but I read some poor reviews that it does not attach securely across the shoulders…
Great comparisons. I have been ordered a classic Beaufort 42” because I had already bought an Ashby XL. I hope that that could be right because I usually wear a EU 50” suitet. Could i’m right?
Hello, i'm 1 metter 66 tall, 63 kilos. My shoulders are a little bit large. I tried the ASHBY model this day. He fitted well but i'm wondering if the BEAUFORT model ( I didn't tried him ). Could be more versatile. I mean to wear every season with others clothes and jackets under him. I'm afraid that de Ashby will a little tight with sometimes. Being small as I am, I don't like wearing clothes who are too large or too tight. I like when it's perfect sizing.
try or find the Bedale SL (White Label). It is shorter than Beaufort/Ashby and a have a modern slim fit comparing it to the classic Bedale (very boxy/baggy)
Thank you for your video. I don't know which size will be best for me. I live in Canada. Usually, I wear medium size. I am 180 cm high and about 180 pounds. I hesitate between 36 and 38 size. Do you have a recommendation? Thank you again.
I would go for at least 38. I am 170cm and 140 pounds. My size 36 has just enough extra room. I think the sleeves on a 36 would be too short for you and the body might be too tight.
Yes, according to the tag, the inner lining is 100% cotton. The drip strip (below the patterned lining) is 100% polyester. The outer is 100% waxed cotton.
Heeelp i want so bad the bedale but can’t sort the sizing: -height 178cm -weight 80 cm -chest 107cm I was looking To buy it 2 hand but seems like every barbour has its Own mesures. So far I was thinking of a c42 or c44 size (The only jacket I cloud try on was the Ashby in L and it was perfect)
@@sc1 thank you! And might I ask you if u know why they have so many different ways of expressing the size? Sometimes is a letter(S,M,L), other times is ‘C4..’, other times numbers in the thirties(36-38)
Hi, how are you? I want to buy a Barbour Bedale, but I'm not sure about the size. I tried an Ashby size S and his sleeves were too long for me, also in height. So I need your help, my measurements are: - 170cm Height - 72kg - 102 cm chest I don't like a fit too "baggy", but a middle way and looking at the barbour size guide I think a 34-36 might be okay, I don't know... After saying all of that, what would you say? Thank you!
Hi Luca, I'm just about your size. I bought the Ashby size XS. It is a snug fit with only enough room for a light sweater. Sleeves are just right in length. Just what I wanted.
Have any idea what the C stands for in the size? On Barbour's website and in Orvis in person I only saw numbers (36, 38, 40 etc) for both the Beaufort and the Bedale. Is it a shorter version? Beaufort's 36 back length seems to be marked as 33 inches vs the 31.5 you mentioned.
@@sc1 Ah ok that makes sense, so according to the size charts they have the same back length of 33 inches (36 vs 36 classic), any idea why yours is shorter? Maybe they lengthened them in recent years?
I’m a little over 6 feet and about 215 pounds. I have a Beaufort jacket, size 46. It fits perfectly on the shoulders. I bought a zip in liner. Once that is in place, it fits perfectly. Beauforts are designed to be worn over a suit jacket or a bulky sweater. They require upkeep, but their water resistance is legendary. Look after it, and it will give you years of service.
Old sport, I'm about your size. I'm looking at the Beaufort with the zip in liner. What is the coldest temp you've worn your jacket in? Could/would you go colder with a chunky wool sweater?
Best Regards,
@@charliefoxtrot7219 It’s cool in the mornings here. About 8 degrees. I make do without the liner. I also bought a Barbour Derby Tweed sweater. There’s room for either. If say the liner would go in at 5 degrees or lower. I’ll let you know when I have to put the liner in.
@@johnearle7776 Thank you
I vote Bedale. Thanks for doing this review. Comprehensive, detailed, and insightful. Idk if I’d wear it w/a suit, but 100% for business casual or even jeans & sweater.
Yes, I’m thinking I like the Bedale better. But I’ll need to give it some more time of course.
This jacket isn't for you. Corporate nerd.
Excellent review. The Bedale is an equestrian jacket designed to be worn while riding. The snap flap at the bottom of the Bedale is designed so the coat tail will drape over the back of the saddle when riding. The gusseted sleeves are also designed with riding in mind as the gussets keep wind from blowing up the sleeve when riding at speed. The nylon "skirt" is on the Bedale so moisture will not wick up the cotton lining if riding in the rain.
The Beaufort is designed to be an upland hunting jacket. The longer length allows for more protection from briars and the slightly lower hand warmer pockets allow for more comfortable cradling of a shotgun while walking. The game pouch is self explanatory. I find the game pouch ideal for storing a scarf or even a light sweater.
The bedale is a better fit for my body and lifestyle. I ended up selling the Beaufort.
@@sc1 I have both and love them both. I find I wear the Beaufort more because it is easier to slip on and off since it doesn't have the sleeve gussets. I do think the Bedale looks better when I'm wearing it although I get compliments on both jackets.
Like you, I am 5'-7" tall but larger in chest and waist. I think the Bedale model is the best option for those of us who are shorter in height. I am looking forward to purchasing my first Barbour jacket soon ! Many thanks for doing this video as it was EXTREMELY HELPFUL and INFORMATIVE ! Wear your Barbour's in good health - Happy Holidays !
Glad it was helpful. It is certainly worth the money.
In the game pocket I’d store the hood and my cashmere scarf. Perfect for when the weather turns while you are out. One of the best reviews I’ve seen. Thanks keep doing them.
Great review, and thanks for saying Bedale properly.
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High quality with the upmost of care from design to manufacture to shipping.
Barbour Caps are also an ideal addition for any season.
Thanks for the video. It was helpful!
Lovely comparison. Luckily here in the UK we can walk in the stores and try them all on and find the perfect fit.
For me the Beaufort wins. It’s the classic jacket and I love the ‘game pocket’ very handy when out.
Super jackets that are as fashionable as practical.
This is really helpful. Thank you for taking the time to go through all the details
You are so welcome!
The Bedale is a horse riding jacket, the Beaufort is a hunting jacket. That is the reason for the Bedale being shorter. Your "correct" style also depends on where you live. If in Florida a closer fit is fine, in Canada my size 40 Beaufort is my correct size as I need to wear a proper British jumper under it when it gets colder.
Excellent comparison , I like them both equally , I own the Beaufort .
I bought my Bedale from Cox the Saddler in the UK. Price was around $230 and shipping took less than a week to Massachusetts
Thank you for a very informative cover of the two jackets. Also I love your style 👌
Great review and jackets! I’ve had my Barbour for two years now and it’s perfect for the Northern VA weather in the Fall season.
Thanks for commenting. I’m pretty satisfied with the quality of Barbour.
Both look great. 1st one looks more chore work oriented. The 2nd more professional & city driving/errand/Leica event. Cheers!
Your comment sums them up perfectly
Great review. I have had my Beaufort for over 30 years but have not worn it so much. Have found it too baggy but still like the feel. On the other hand I have used my Burberry trench coats a lot more. Sunspel has excellent English style casual clothing. Really enjoy your videos.
I sold my Burberry trench years ago, big mistake. It would be nice to still have around
Never heard of this, added to my wish list now. I see this going well with my Crocket and Jones boot collection for the fall 👌🏽
It’s a great coat for the fall. It is, and has been, worn by the Royal Family, and was awarded 3 Royal Warrants.
I think these jackets work very well with my Blackhorse Lane Denim (from the UK), Real McCoy’s Chinos, Drake’s Oxford BD (from the UK) and my Viberg Service Boots (from Canada).
Well done. A very nice post. I have a Beaufort in Sage and a Classic Bedale. I enjoy both of them. I tend to wear the Beaufort a little more often because of the Beaufort poacher pocket and for the inside pocket for my cell phone - it's more convenient to use than the Bedale's inner pocket. Although I do not hunt, that poacher pocket comes in very hand e.g., for an extra dog leash, dog tug, ball, book, newspaper, etc, leaving both hand free. Additionally, I do like the Beaufort style and the Bedale's style is similar. IMHO they are both great waxed jackets and one cannot go wrong with opting for either jacket.
thanks, dude. did you get both in the same size? which fit do you like better?
@@sc1 I have both jackets in the same size. Both jackets fit me well. I decided to take a slightly larger size. The reason I did so is because during winter I frequently wear a jacket, a warm bulky sweater or a vest under the jacket. The larger size provides me with a good range of motion when the jacket is zipped up.. Additionally, there have been several times when I have worn either jacket over a suit during inclement weather. Excellent jackets for nearly any occasion! 😀
Nice review, I own the Bedale after ordering both and trying them on at home. I ended up buying a Bedale for wife and daughter. My son bought the Ashby, which is a a more fitted jacket which required him to go one size up. The two colors are navy and sage, the olive looked too brown. Thanks for doing the visual comparison!
I think the Bedale is the better choice. I wouldn’t buy the Ashby, because it might be too tight on me. And I prefer the extra room for layering, which the Bedale 36C provides for me. And I like the color out of the box. But we’ll see how the color ages over time…
Bonjour, la veste Bedale est plus ajustée ?
Merci pour votre réponse
Great video. I live in London but we have an old cottage in the country and I have been looking for a new walking coat. I thought about a Barbour several times but always gone for the modern technical jackets. However, I think the time is right. Having looked at a few videos I am going for the Beaufort. Not the most stylish, but practical.
I live in the US, but I always like to imagine an Englishman wearing something like a Barbour coat, walking along at his country estate.
@@sc1 😁 I don’t have a country estate, more like a small old Thatched Cottage, in a small village in rural England. But it has some wonderful walks in the countryside
@@sc1If you get the chance watch an episode of Emmerdale it’s an English soap that has been going for over 30 years based in an Yorkshire village & nearly all the cast wear Barbour jackets
Thanks for info. Bedale looks great on you.
I’m from the UK and I have two Bedales , I would say these are a wear virtually anywhere and any season especially if you buy a Barbour liner , the Beaufort and Bedale are both made in England and are excellent quality, literally anything on these jackets can also be repaired through Barbour and with age they have a lovely patina , at the moment I’m looking to buy the Beaufort , I would buy either the olive or green jackets as they age better , good luck to you all 👍
I don’t see Barbour worn very much here. I’m wondering how common they are seen in the UK. I was thinking of getting a liner, but will just try layering for now.
@@sc1 Barbour is popular in the UK but not to the point where everyone is wearing one , they are a timeless classic and the quality in the Bedale is excellent. The liners are a nice touch and are often lined with the matching tartan fabric which makes them feel a bit special, good luck to you 👍
unfortunately, most of the time it's not made in the UK. Their production comes mostly from Turkey, China and Vietnam (you'll find some interesting articles about this on the internet). When buying a Barbour, you have to make sure the tag "made in England" is there. More specifically, their Ashby jackets mostly come from Moldavia.
@@theoldman5924 Bedale and Beaufort are all made in England, I think jackets in what is called the classic range are made in England too.
Just adding for clarity - I have a Bedale and an International. The Bedale is made in England. The International, however, is made in Bulgaria. So, if the country of origin is important, I strongly suggest looking at the tag, or asking the question if you’re purchasing online.
Bedale for me. Also what a coincidence as only yesterday I rewaxed my Brooks Brothers jacket and Barbour briefcase. Looking like new now!
Fall is a great time for waxed jackets.
Basically you need to try on if at all possible and consider when you may wear it and what else you will put on.
My Bedale wears great with a country shirt but too small when wearing layered clothing. The Beaufort is for winter, late autumn and early spring with pullovers.
The reason why the Queen Elizabeth wore a Beaufort was because it could accomade a spare crown in the rear pocket !
That poachers pocket is huge !
A hat , gloves . Hood , flask of tea , a pack lunch and a crown will fit in that backpack sized picket with ease .
The side pocket with a zip is handy for a phone or a wallet .
The inner sleeves are better then the Bedale and without layering the Bedale could make you look like a pear , with its boxy shape.
Defo the Beaufort for me !
I think the Bedale fit should naturally be a little loose to take into account the layering that will likely happen beneath. I am a 42" chest and my 40" Bedale is the perfect balance between fit and longterm function.
My chest measures about 37' and my bedale is size C36. I still have enough room to layer, and I can wear a sweater underneath or a fleece vest, or a suit jacket.
Stumbled upon this after putting on my Bedale for the first time this fall. I agree on your comment regarding the fit. It is very roomy inside.
I like the extra room inside. allows me to layer.
Brought the Bedale from an outlet store 10 years ago & loved it there’s something you can buy to zip into them that makes them warm enough for cold weather can’t remember the name but you can still buy them & it fits different Barbour jackets
I've heard that the older Barbour has button in liners. Newer ones as early as 2010 zip in. So if anyone owns a vintage Barbour, they may want to write the company about a button in liner.
If you want a warmer option there is also the Northumbria, it’s a longer coat, fit similar to the Beaufort although has two internal poachers pockets (removable and waterproof) rather than the one across the back. It’s also made from an 8oz waxed cotton whereas the Bedale and Beaufort are both 6oz waxed cotton, you notice the difference in weight wearing it! Only warning for that one is the hoods do not quite match (even though they are advertised as the same colour), I originally had the same hood as yours (the classic sylkoil hood) but have switched to the storm hood as the colour match is closer (although not quite perfect), although in time I am sure they will age similarly.
An excellent comparison of both jackets, thank you!
This was really helpful
I don’t hunt or ride but wanted a god wax coat for walking the dog in the autumn months
I think the Bedale is perfect
It's a good versatile jacket for me.
Glad to see we've got more in common than watches. I'm top to bottom dressed in Barbour for most of the year :)
Cool, I didn’t realize so many Barbour wearers here.
Bedale for me!
Great review, I was debating between the 2.
me too. I finally decided on the bedale as my favorite
I’ve just bought a Beafort, a 38 as i already got a 38 Navy Bedale (and an Antique Heritage Bedale in Sage, but this is slightly slim in cut). The Beaufort feels way slimmer than the Bedale, which wears with the typical Bell fit.
3/26/24 Thanks for the video. I have several Beaufort jackets. Two in 48 and one in 46. I actually wear a size 50 sport coat and can size down quite a bit. This is exaggerated even more in the Bedale as you suggested. I bought a 46 Bedale and the chest size is 28 inches across which is akin to a size 56 sport coat. It fits like an XXXL. It is unusable in my opinion. I’ve ordered a size 44 in a Bedale and will see if this is a better fit. Seems strange to wear a 50 suit coat but have to buy a 44 Barbour Bedale to fit well. Very inconsistent sizing between the different models.
yes, strange sizing. it takes a lot of research to find the right fit. it’s one of the downsides of Barbour. but I like the style.
I’m going to buy one for next duck/pheasant season, thank you for the review
I'm normally a slim 38 in everything but the Bedale runs HUGE. I sized down to a 36 like you did. Main issue is the sleeves run a bit short. Still feels boxy even in a 36. I liked the Bedale because I wanted the brown color. I dislke the massive collar size and trademark circle zipper though. Also wish the handwarmers were lower down. The more I write here the more I realize I need to just sell this jacket. I like the length of the bedale on you but actually prefer the trimmer chest of the beaufort. The bedale just looks SO boxy. I snagged mine for only $180.
Fair points, but I like the extra room to layer in the Bedale. I want to comfortably wear a thick sweater or even a sports coat underneath. you must be taller than me, because the sleeves were just right, and the jacket length looked too long on the Beaufort.
Got two classic Beadale'$ ;) Am hard on my coats both sent back regularly for repair!
I have two Bedale (Olive & Blue) and black Sapper. Bedale is better fit for me at 5'9 1/2.
Bedale fits me better.
Great video man, thanks
Beaufort! Better looking and more practical! I have used my Beaufort for 17 years! It's a jacket you can use for every occasion! Only waxed it once! And it gets better with age.👍
In the game pocket I’d store permanently the hood, and occasionally some groceries, magazines, books, whatever I don't want to carried by hand and is not to heavy. I used it all the time!
Thanks for the confirmation. I am also short 5'8 and weigh about 175. I wear a 40S suit jacket and am thinking about getting the Bedale in size 38. I was worried because I have short arms but that doesnt seem to be an issue.
Barbour jackets are great and will probably last you a lifetime if well taken care of. However, I recommend making sure there is the "Made in England" tag on the inside, as many Barbour jackets are now made in Asia or Eastern Europe.
I checked my Bedale and Beaufort, they both say Made in England on the tag.
@@sc1 if you live in the UK then it’s most likely yes, but in other parts of Europe/world more and more people are complaining that it’s not made in England, which I can understand considering that you pay the same price for a made in Moldavia and a made in England Ashby jacket
@@theoldman5924 The Made in England still applies to their core lineup, i.e. the Beaufort, Bedale, and Border. It can be recognized by sizing in numbers instead of S, M, L, etc.
At least, Bedale and Beaufort are made in ENG. Not sure about Border. Ashby and other model are usually made in Moldavia or China. However, the quality is quite the same, don't worry.
@@muten1980 yes but just a shame to pay the same price for a jacket made in China and one made in England
I want to order Beaufort but don’t know which size to choose :/ i am 183cm tall, 84kg, 110cm chest and more athletic fit. Can’t decide if 40 or 42 be better for me
40 will be too tight in the chest. Definitely go 42.
@sc1 thank you for replying me and your help
I tried the Beaufort size 40……man the arms are short so I went for 42 just to get the arms to fit. I’m always going to wear a sweater with it…..so fit is fine.
Enjoy your Barbour! It’s meant to wear something underneath.
Bedale is short due to not riding up when used for intended perpose,equestrian.
Bottom of it opens out to go over saddle and front of trousers while sitting. Some use as fashionable jackets that like a slim fit ,go down a size then find sleeves are to short,correct size they should be quite baggie to accommodate layering for different seasons. Most prefer these as lighter,slightly less chest tolerance than the Beaufort, I use both,Beaufort is heavier material and bigger all round ,for layering during the winter months. Has a great game pocket to put quarry in or while using in the city,shopping etc.
Both fantastic outdoor jackets.
I like the fit of the shorter length Bedale on me. But yes, I am not the target audience hunter or equestrian. I don’t ride horses, or capture game. I Just like wearing a quality garment that keeps out the rain, and allows for layering.
@sc1
Doesn't matter really what you use for ,still a great quality product that will last test of time and very versatile.
Enjoy and I'm sure you'll add to your collection over time.
I have the same classic bedale and in my opinion the bedale is more comfortable for daily use.
But I think you should be bought one size down,, it looks like to big
The game pouch was the perfect place to put my college block when I was at university. Today i would put my Tablet there, due to the fact it is waterproof.
I'm also 5 '7 and got the Bedale. Going to get the Beaufort in Sage since from my pov it looks better on you.
Got a Beaufort navy in 1999. Still wearing regularly. Just needs waxing every few years.
I’m currently looking for a Barbour and tried on a few today. I tried on the Ashby, which is the slimmer version of the Bedale and it was way too short on me. Then I tried the Beaufort and it was perfect. However, I’m 6’3” with a chest size of 38”.
The Bedale looks more in proportion for yourself.
The Bedale works best for me. But I am not 6’3”. I am only 5’7”.
I’m not interested in the slimmer Ashby. I would rather have some room to layer.
Given your height, I would really consider getting the Beaufort.
Which size Beaufort worked for you? I am 6'3", too.
@@sc1 Yes, I prefer the fuller cut too for layering. The Ashby was too tight under the arms. I only tried it as my local department store only stocked those two models.
I’ll be going for the Beaufort. I thought I may need the Border being tall, but the Beaufort was fine.
@@paulmcgrew2932 I tried the 38 and the 40. The 38 fit and looked great on me, the 40 was a little too large in the body. However, it’s still warm here in England, so I only had a thin merino wool jumper on as a layer, so need to go back and try them on with a thicker lambswool jumper. I don’t want it tight around the arm holes.
I went to the department store for trousers, so trying on the Barbours was just to gauge if I liked them or not after seeing photos. The Beaufort I tried on was also the 40th Anniversary model if that makes any difference to sizing.
It’s tough for me as I’m very slim with wide shoulders. My waist is 31”.
@@paulmcgrew2932 Update! I’m going to have to retract my original statement, I returned today to spend more time with them and the sleeves on the 38” Beaufort are an inch too short for me when I relax my arms to the side. Seeing as I’ll be wearing it in damp weather it’s a dealbreaker. The body was perfect otherwise, this time I wore a thicker jumper and it was fine, not restricted at all on the upper body.
The 40” was fine on the sleeves, but is just too big in the body for me. Looks like I’ll have to buy a Border (or similar) in 38!
Its a great Übergangsjacke. 2 Decades ago i tried to buy one, but they had nothing in my Size. I might give them a 2nd try. Ill check out the Beaufort. Or trhe Ashby/Border Lines.
The Bedale is designed for the equestrian folk wheras the Beaufort is more for the hunting, shooting and fishing people. They were never intended to be fashion items. Which category do you fall in. If none better to buy a Goretex jacket.....no grease no odours and washable.
And wears out in a few short seasons...whereas I still have Barbour jackets going back to the 80's that come up like new when occasionally rewaxed.
I don’t hunt fish or ride horses and I think these jackets look amazing. Just because a clothing item wasn’t intended to be a fashion item doesn’t mean it can’t be used for fashion. Look at workwear
I guess that is the reason for the bedale having the fabric cuffs and the Beaufort (and my Northumbria) having the polyester cuffs, if you are shooting you arms will be up more so the fabric cuffs will hold more water. I don’t use mine for shooting so may send to Barbour to get the fabric cuffs.
I feel like if you touch a fish to one of these jackets once that smell is never coming out
so bedale is for shorter, muscular people. thank you
great video mate!!!i just recently bought my first barbour..classic bedale all the way..im glad i watched your video before i buy..im also 5’7” 68kg sz 36 is the right size for me..
im just confused regarding the tag my barbour only have 2 royal warrant printed not 3..😅😅😅..
Great Choice! I am considering getting the zip-in Barbour liner for the winter, but I read some poor reviews that it does not attach securely across the shoulders…
i think i would choose good quality sweatshirt or cardigan rather than their liner..😊😊😊..
Because the queen passed away
@@elfingord2189 It was because Prince Phillip died. After the Queen died it went down to one royal warrant: Charles III
@@sc1 avoid it! It fits bad, too rigid and make rigid the Bedale/Beaufort also. Layered wear is a better solution
Great comparisons. I have been ordered a classic Beaufort 42” because I had already bought an Ashby XL. I hope that that could be right because I usually wear a EU 50” suitet. Could i’m right?
Hoggs of fife are my coats wool tweed and oiled cotton
Hello, i'm 1 metter 66 tall, 63 kilos. My shoulders are a little bit large.
I tried the ASHBY model this day. He fitted well but i'm wondering if the BEAUFORT model ( I didn't tried him ). Could be more versatile. I mean to wear every season with others clothes and jackets under him.
I'm afraid that de Ashby will a little tight with sometimes.
Being small as I am, I don't like wearing clothes who are too large or too tight. I like when it's perfect sizing.
try or find the Bedale SL (White Label). It is shorter than Beaufort/Ashby and a have a modern slim fit comparing it to the classic Bedale (very boxy/baggy)
Thank you for your video. I don't know which size will be best for me. I live in Canada. Usually, I wear medium size. I am 180 cm high and about 180 pounds. I hesitate between 36 and 38 size. Do you have a recommendation? Thank you again.
I would go for at least 38. I am 170cm and 140 pounds. My size 36 has just enough extra room. I think the sleeves on a 36 would be too short for you and the body might be too tight.
Sorry if I missed it, but what size what the Bedale?
C36 in both
Is the Bedale lined with 100% cotton? Or are there some synthetic fabrics used? Thanks for the video
Yes, according to the tag, the inner lining is 100% cotton. The drip strip (below the patterned lining) is 100% polyester. The outer is 100% waxed cotton.
@@sc1 Thank you! I think I will be pulling the trigger on a Bedale.
@@Templar112299 Its a good choice!
Heeelp i want so bad the bedale but can’t sort the sizing:
-height 178cm
-weight 80 cm
-chest 107cm
I was looking To buy it 2 hand but seems like every barbour has its
Own mesures.
So far I was thinking of a c42 or c44 size
(The only jacket I cloud try on was the Ashby in L and it was perfect)
I agree, you should be a C42 or C44. If you have a flat stomach, go for the C42.
@@sc1 c42 even if I have a wide shoulders?
@@fdta6607 yes, the chest measurement should take into account the shoulders. and the raglan sleeves of the Bedale are forgiving.
@@sc1 thank you!
And might I ask you if u know why they have so many different ways of expressing the size?
Sometimes is a letter(S,M,L), other times is ‘C4..’, other times numbers in the thirties(36-38)
What size is that bedale? I bought a second hand Slim fit bedale made for japan and 38 feels line regular 36 on me.
Mine is regular C36
Are they both 36?
Yes
Put birds or rabbits in the game pocket…come on….
Hi, how are you? I want to buy a Barbour Bedale, but I'm not sure about the size. I tried an Ashby size S and his sleeves were too long for me, also in height. So I need your help, my measurements are:
- 170cm Height
- 72kg
- 102 cm chest
I don't like a fit too "baggy", but a middle way and looking at the barbour size guide I think a 34-36 might be okay, I don't know... After saying all of that, what would you say? Thank you!
Hi Luca, I'm just about your size. I bought the Ashby size XS. It is a snug fit with only enough room for a light sweater. Sleeves are just right in length. Just what I wanted.
Have any idea what the C stands for in the size? On Barbour's website and in Orvis in person I only saw numbers (36, 38, 40 etc) for both the Beaufort and the Bedale. Is it a shorter version? Beaufort's 36 back length seems to be marked as 33 inches vs the 31.5 you mentioned.
I think the C means Classic
@@sc1 Ah ok that makes sense, so according to the size charts they have the same back length of 33 inches (36 vs 36 classic), any idea why yours is shorter? Maybe they lengthened them in recent years?
@@sc1 No, I have a vintage Bedale (1990) and the size label says C36.
What's the size of your Bedale ? I'm 1m75 (between 5'7 and 5'8) so I'm not sure which size should I go for
my classic Bedale is size 36. I am also between 5’7” and 5’8”
@@sc1 thanks !
What is the size of your bedale model ? 36 ?
Yes size C36
Are they both olive color ?
Yes
Hello, is the bedale darker than the beaufort ? Thx
Same color. The Beaufort is just faded slightly because it is 2 yrs old and the bedale is new.
Which size is your Bedale?
C36
Which size Bedale worked for you? I’m 5’8” too
C36 works best on me. 5’8’’ 140 lbs. Still room to layer a sweater or fleece jacket.
@@sc1 Thanks a lot. I’m around 180 lbs. Guess that 38 will work best on me
Its a coat ya big froot yee !!
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