Gran Turismo 4 RE-REVIEW | ColourShed
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Gran Turismo 4 RE-REVIEW
Platform: PlayStation 2
Release Year: 2004
Developer: Polyphony Digital
Publisher: Sony Interactive Entertainment
Genre: Simulation Racer
► Music (in order):
"Home"
"Moon Over the Castle (Orchestrated)" by Masahiro Andoh
"Arcade Mode"
"Power and Speed"
"Gran Turismo Mode 1"
"Gran Turismo Mode 4"
"Gran Turismo Mode 3"
"License Center"
"Gold Medal"
"Event Selection"
"Driving Missions"
"Circuit Selection 3"
"Circuit Selection 2"
"Circuit Selection 1"
"My Precious" by Daiki Kasho
"What to Believe" by Daiki Kasho
Gran Turismo 4 Menu OSTs composed by Isamu Ohira
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Electronic Arts
Forbes
Naughty Dog
Nintendo
Polygon
Polyphony Digital
Sony Interactive Entertainment
Turn 10 Studios
Ubisoft
Xbox Game Studios
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"Making of - Gran Turismo 4" by NeoGamer - The Video Game Archive
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I like to think the inclusion of New York in GT4's intro paid tribute to 9/11 victims. Also are you excited for the GT film?
This game was one of the best games I've ever played in my childhood. But I can't see myself finishing it ever. It's just too long. When I was a kid time felt limitless. Now I always feel like I'm running out of it.
It’s for better or worse, Kaz’s masterpiece. GT games have came out since, but streamers and fans flock to this one like moths to a flame for a reason.
gt5 is better then gt4 more cars/tracks 1080p 60fps similar physics & great online play
@@michaelgomez4994 I dislike the progression though. 3 and 4 were the best games.
Gran Turismo 5 is where it started to go downhill… Levels for cars? PP?
GT6? No second hand market. Can buy everything if you get the money… And they force a starter car on you…
And GT7 is the worst with those menu books
major thing for me is that GT4 can be easily emulated on PC & Android phones, while GT5 & GT6 is still not so stable for emulation
@@michaelgomez4994 I never played thr GT ganes online so the campaign is the most important part for me. I recently tried out GT5 and although it isn't bad I disliked the leveling system and the number of events. So I booted up GT6 and I am having a blast with it, there are more events, more cars, no leveling system. I qm currently at International B events and after I am done I am going to go back and check out GT4 since I recently restored and softmoded my old PS2 Slim. But so far after playing GT5, GT PSP, GT6 and GT Sport I can say that GT6 is the best in the series for my. But who knows maybe GT4 will change my oppinion.
@@Swat_Dennis The leveling system in GT5 ain't good but having PP is kind of nice as it limits your ability to cheese events and encourages you to get more cars and upgrade your existing ones
You know a game is good when you feel nostalgic for it despite having played it first when you were 18. At least that's how it was for me! GT4 will always be the goat 🐐 Great review!
While I do prefer GT3 in terms of simplicity and personality, I have to admit GT4 is incredible and I’m glad I played it over the Christmas break last year up to the start of May.
LOL, I play this when I was 5yo, and I dont know what gran turismo mode mean back then, so I always played the quick race mode XD
Never forgetti that in the top 100 Racing Games, Beetle Racing from 1999 is ahead of GT4 😂
@DustinEdenYT you and ColourShed (Spencer) make my favorite Gran Turismo videos on RUclips. Cheers to you both!
@@derosiflo6524 nope. Gran Turismo 2 and Formula One 97 and 06 PS2 are also ahead of GT4. Although fractionally.
GT3 and GT4 are the reason I'm into cars today. I used to get up super early on weekends to go downstairs, boot up the playstation and play these games until my parents pried me away. I can admit that my feelings towards these games are heavily influenced by that nostalgia, but having played them both on PCSX2 since, I really do believe they are some of the greatest racing games of all time, even today. The plethora of weird and quirky cars in GT4 especially had me fascinated, and it became a big part of what I do now, all these years later.
I thoroughly enjoyed the re-review!
same games was so good pscx2 makes so many good games replayable
It's not just you, GT4 is considered by many to be the racing GOAT
I played all the games with my dad at around 8 or 9 years old. He stopped at GT3 saying it didn't feel as good anymore (I think he liked arcade style games more at that point in his life). I kept going with GT3-GT7. I want to show him 2 and then 7 this week for Christmas. I think it would blow him away as he really has not followed gaming since GT2-GT3 oddly enough. Also your content reminds me of those days with dad. It's a good memory I am making with your amazing content.
myt friends are all into new cars at dealerships. Im like 3000 gt vr4 for me.
cant wait for the re-re-review in 6 years !
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I didn't grow up with Gran Turismo, yet I deeply appreciate how GT4 handles just about everything. I played it for real just a year or two ago and honestly I'm astonished by how much it holds up. Menus are so good that sometimes it makes me _want_ a car.
The summer I got this game is so, so, so special to me. I just became a teenager, me and my older brother loved cars, and we spent hours upon hours racing, tweaking and modifying, buying, selling, and just living this game. Still one of my favorite games ever.
holy shit someone JUST found hidden cheat codes in this game 20 years later? thats probably the biggest bombshell featured in this video hot damn. thats so cool man
The new emulation related things that have been coming out for this game recently have been outstanding. I know you didn't cover them in this video but the amount of new features and enhancements you can do with the game (as well as new things still in the pipeline for it) are incredible and make the experience much, much better than you could imagine.
True...disabling the interlacing, 360 degrees car cam, better pressure sensitivity on controller, GT3 style chase cam, it all makes GT4 play even better....
I can play GT4 at 60p even on my phone, which is from 2018.
GT2's emulation experience has shifted dramatically into a whole new, amazing experience separate from OG hardware as well. honestly id have never known about all the great strides GT2 and GT4 have been making in the field of emulation if it weren't for a lot of YOUR videos covering it so thank you for that, Rowdy.
I used your guide to set up the high res textures and remove interlacing, thanks!
@@caifabe8050 Caifabe, have u watched clips from Gran Turismo 5 Unseen? Those unseen clips are based from 2010 Racing Game of Gran Turismo 5. One clip in particular featuring all 12 Nijigasaki members singing Colorful Dreams Colorful Smiles. 👍
Fun fact: the Japanese version of this features voice acting reading each car’s descriptions.
Shocking...
Along with WWF No Mercy on my N64 , GT4 is probably equal on my most hours played list. Absolutely adored this game back then. Weirdly i don't play the newer ones at all.
Gran Turismo 7 feels very nostalgic, it has GT3/4 vibes 😉
@@PolYGame Gotta agree, GT7 is spectacular. I love GT4 which I run on SteamDeck, but recently got a PS5 and wow - blown away by GT7.
@@PolYGame but only on the intros, everything else went downhill due to online only for even playing single player career mode.
2 of my favorite games of all time
GT7 is everything that was wrong with the series, while also dropped everything that was fun. Feels like a parody of Gran Turismo.
Emulation has been so good this past year.
I mean,I'm literally replaying Gran Turismo 4 on my PHONE! And the fact that there is absolutely no slow downs or anything is amazing. Emulation really enhances old games and makes you see more of what the developers had in mind.
i'm currently playing trough gt4 on my pc. A very smooth experience.
Thanks to the recently discovered cheat codes, I’ve got well over 3 billion credits and all gold on the licenses because I didn’t have the patience.
@@georgem2768 what cheat codes
@@esnebta Select, Left, Right, Right, Down, Up, Up, Left, Down, Up, Right, Left, Down, L1, R1, Select - This gives you 10,000,000 credits.
Select, Select, R1, R2, L2, L2, Select, L1, R1, Select, R2, L2, Select - This golds a license test.
@@kirby1225 what emulator do you use? I'd love to re-play this
7:43 The music is region specific it just happens that this time around the PAL version has, appart from a few japanese songs, all the songs from the other regions.
I remember when this cam out. I took the day off work and smashed 14 hrs of gameplay. Ties with RE4 for my favorite game ever. Sidenote, I worked at a toy store when the ps2 was coming out. We got a shipment in 2 weeks b4 they went on sale. Went home that night with a ps2 and my mind was blown.
Side side note....ps2 is hooked up in the living room. Tonight my 6 yr old is getting his first taste of gran turismo
When that music hits at 6:16 something just starts to feel different. Like the inner childhood spending hours and hours upon this game, Finding new exciting stuff to do and race around the most beautiful tracks at the time. Man, the nostalgia and memories are something that I will never be able to explain. Thanks for the video!
It really DOES feel like a theme park - almost utopian with how like… safe and free it feels. Even if I can’t afford everything right off the bat, I sure as hell will enjoy the time I spend there and feel oddly… grown-up(?) while doing so
I remember a few years ago finding photos I took as a kid when the game launched. It really hit me hard. this was a game that really stuck with me.
To me this game was the peak of the series. Since then the way they've implemented progression has ruined it.
That and the car lineup in gt7 with so few road cars
Gt7 in vr is the greatest simulation Racing i've ever played
@@drunkensailor112 I haven't played GT7 in VR but I've played a lot of racing games in VR with a wheel on PC. Takes the experience to a new level.
@@ClellBiggs as a fellow PC player, GT7 VR is better than anything ive played, and ive played them all.
@@CurtisSmal as a Fellow GT & PC fan, There is no argue VR in GT7 is great but that alone isn't enough to justify the game poor shape,, the overall game is a disappointment, No career, payout is way way too low & will take ages to purchase a specific car + in-app purchases was the biggest turn off to even consider buying the game to begin with, i might just wait for them to fix half the game, or get it at a decent discount, genuinely I Still enjoy GT Sports more, Glad i still have my PS4 for that reason, because there is no real reason for me to buy a PS5 at the moment
Grand Valley in GT7 is... a sight to behold from GT1 to now.
It's a completely different circuit.
I hope they bring the old one back.
It’s funny you post this cause I’ve been playing the hell outta GT3 lately and maybe this video will get me back into GT4. Love those games so much
Agree. Seems like Gran Turismo 7 has the magic word to GT4: HITORI DAKE NANTE ERABENAI YO!
@@purwantiallan5089 Wth does that mean
A tip for B-spec when in an emulatior:
Pressing "Tab" key turns on the Turbo mode which lets the game run at double the speed.
You can also press "F4" to unlock the frame limiter and let the game run as fast as your computer can run it.
When combined with X3 speed from the telemetry screen you can really drop the times needed for the endurance races if you want to go through them using B-spec.
You just have to pay attention to re-apply the telemetry fast forward every time the driver pits, but you should be able to finish a 24h race in less than 4 hours this way.
I still play GT4 to this day on my PS2 Slim. Granted, I had to buy a Component to HDMI converter to play it on my 4K TV, and switch my TV's aspect ratio to 4:3 in order to get rid of the blurry picture, but still, when I bought GT4 in 2005, I was blown away by how incredible it looked. Even 20 years later, it remains one of the best looking PS2 games ever made.
IMHO GT3 is still my favourite of the entire series, the PAL soundtrack, the way cars handle, the variety of tracks and championships, Arcade Mode still being a thing were you can both try out cars that you have yet to obtain in GT Mode while maintaining a feeling of progression, and many other things (like the 2 ending movies). I'd argue that GT4 is objectively the best game of the series, easily, but GT3 just hits me way harder both thanks to nostalgia as well as being a great game on its own. Still, GT4 was so much fun. I miss GT games being this good. Great review!
To each their own, personally GT4 is best in everything in the entire series
The absolute best game ever made, the goat, undisputable!
Man moon over the castle always make me drop a tears, what a beautiful music
Loved going back to GT4 after finding the cheats. Licenses all gold, endurance races done in 10 seconds and a car shopping spree that would make Jay Leno blush.
Timeless game, it's eternal, glorious. Nothing will ever beat it.
On PCSX2 you can change controller sensitivity and Gt4 plays so much better as the cars aren't as sensitive and feel a tad more realistic
Agree bro. All 13 Nijigasaki characters including ShioPomu also love Gran Turismo 4.
God damn this is my first real gaming memory. 23 years old now. Feels like a lifetime ago
This was one of my favorite games when I was 10. I recently acquired a ps2 and bought a used copy of GT4 at a local store and I’ve been grinding this game way harder than I have any game on PS4 in recent years. The last few months playing have been a wonderful nostalgia trip and I plan to keep playing!
Favorite in the series. Best ost and best cover art in the series too imo. Still get the replay theater music stuck in my head sometimes.
Setsuna Yuki also love Gran turismo 4 man.
A timeless masterpiece, so many things they got just right. The menu soundtrack is easily one of the best ever put in a game.
Two weeks before my 9th birthday, I was in the hospital for a week with pneumonia. When I got out, my parents let me get a PS2 and this game for it. It really helped me feel so much better and was a feeling I'll never forget. Great nostalgia from the game. It was fun, difficult, and the music was fantastic. Can't believe it's been so long that this game came out now.
The rear car camera always felt ok for me because it allows me to see the next corner quicker in twisty circuits but I still prefer the hood view in pretty much every game I play. Lovely video on perhaps my favorite game (of any genre) of all time.
This game will forever be ingrianed in my childhood, still the best GT. Got a platinum on GT7 but this game has so much memmories.
i still have nostalgia over your original GT4 video, i was a freshman in high school at the time. time flies
I remember vividly when I was a kid, I would spend hours just navigating through the showrooms looking at the cars. The license tests were hard for me at the time and I had no idea about B-Spec mode so I would grind the sunday cup until I had enough credits to buy new cars.
In high school instead of partying, we would play the endurance races. In lieu of alcohol, it would be water and energy drinks. Naps in between turns. I'd give everything to go back to those days.
Best game ever in my opinion! So many hours played as a kid for years
Can we take a moment to appreciate how outstanding emulation is nowadays? I can play GT4 on a Windows computer with an Xbox controller. If you told somebody back in 2005 that it'd be possible, it'd blow their minds and that's only 18 years ago.
Luckily, there is a patch for modern controllers for this game that unlocks the full motion of the triggers. It controls like gt5 with the triggers and feels pretty good.
Still my fav in the series, I would love to see a full 4K remake, the Times Square, Grand Canyon and El Captain would be glorious.
you can also use frameskipping to make the endurance races very quickly end on b-spec.
the opening cut scene with the song Panama was friggin EPIC
I remember undertaking the 24 hour Nordschleife…it took me 3 days and I never hoped more about the electricity staying on than during that time!
This game was a major part of my childhood
One of the many things I remembered was taking any variety of sports car (usually thhe Cien) and racing a head-to-head to win that Toyota rally concept, solely to sell it again and again to buy something else.
Another one was Buying the Saleen with said money, and getting its horsepower to 800, which was mind-blowing for me at that age.
one of the best PS2 games ever, still have mine!
Found my old PS2 when I went home for Christmas. I saved over my GT4 save though in my excitement 😢
Warms my heart to see this vid uploaded after I finished the GT Championship in this game recently.
Never knew of anybody complain about the "stiff" chase camera in GT4 lol.
Honestly I prefer it over the overly shaky cam from the forza games, I wouldn't mind a bit of movement but definitely closer to GT4s
@@zalcan3620 Same here. Its very distracting
i have more memories from gran turismo 5 prologue everything felt so real
One of my favorite RUclips channels.
Awesome creator ❤
Please review nfs mw 2012, that would be such an interesting video
Was looking forward to this review mate, well done
Great Reviews! I'm very surprised someone like you didnt play Command & Conquer games. Specially C&C Generals is a game you would probably like.
This also was the first Gran Turismo with more than 2 camera modes. I always prefered the new hood cam.
This game is the reason I said my first swear! I was 9 years old, doing a race. 1st place, going well, suddenly a guy passed me! With all the fury a 9 year old could muster, I said "You arse!"
Wicked video mate! I did the exact same thing with the Toyota Rally Raid Car 😂 loved trying to drift in that game too
I found my old ps2, I got at 6 years old.
I need to revisit all my old games as I never ever finished a single one of them. I didn’t even speak English back then, not even a bit let alone enough to understand menus, missions, lore and storyline.
Dude the License tests are my favorite part. It's a very Japanese style of you taking baby steps to master something. Like the guy who spends 5 years on the rice before he can do the Fish. You must get all golds before you have truly earned your License.
The game really makes you feel like gran turismo
I've been playing GT4 a bunch on emulator lately, and it really does breathe new life into an already excellent classic. Playing the game with a Logitech G29 wheel really makes each car feel far more distinct, and even the force feedback is emulated properly! Connecting the game to RetroAchievements also adds a lot of challenge as many of the set's achievements require me to limit my car's power for more A-Spec points and drive cars I never would have tried otherwise, as well as adding online leaderboards for license tests and certain time trial challenges. All that, along with upscaling textures and adjusting the chase camera, greatly improves what was already an excellent experience. It's great to see all the improvements people have been adding to these games in recent years, including the GT2 Plus and GT3 Epilogue mods.
Which emulator you're using?
@@Solidus_Hamza PCSX2 Nightly, stable build doesn't have achievement support yet.
Damn I remember attempting then24 hour at the nurburgring, and using b spec mode to help me out when I needed a break or just wanted the game to play for me for a littlembit while I went did other things. All in all it still took like 13 or 14 hours but man, the prize money and winning a formula 1 car for theneffort was so worth it. That was one of my childhood highlights in gaming.
Fun thing I found out emulating this on the steam deck- GT4 supports controllers with analog triggers! God knows if these existed when the game came out, but their inclusion makes the game shockingly modern when emulated with a modern pad.
still remember my dad buying this for me when i was 10 in some supermarket before christmas. was reading cd case the whole ride home, couldn't believe it said something around 700 cars. good times..
I remember playing this on PS2.. So much love was put into GT4.. From the graphics, to the little things 13year old me wouldn't know about. This game is goated and id love a ps5 remaster because i dont think they've done better than this title since
PCSX2 allows you to reduce the pressure sensitivity on the L&R triggers on an xbone controller so you can actully feather throttle and brakes without resorting to the insanity of using the analog sticks.
Been waiting for this video
People talk about how GT dropped off but holy shit, GT7 in VR is insanity. It's what I dreamt of as a kid.
This was an awesome Review! Peak content!
That bassline has been in my head rent-free for DAYS!
What I remember? Pennzoil Nismo Skyline GTR on Norschleife over and over again to set new private records. And nowadays, still hopiong it comes on PC to in some time. Imagine this game, in native 4K with 60+ fps with full gpu power
You can pause and save the endurance races, when you go to the box and save the game. Then you can continue the race days later. In the box you can also switch to b-spec mode.
I’ve been waiting for years thank you
That mercedes benz sonax 190 is one of my favorite cars of all time because of that license test, one of my favorite license tests of all time!
I never played Gran Turismo 4 back when it was out because I don't have a PS2 and I wonder how good it was. In 2022 I bought myself a PS2 for cheap and finally trying it for the first time. Safe to say that it is one or if not the best racing games ever made. Despite its limitation, to bring such detailed and comprehensive racing experience to a console that barely able to play GTA: San Andreas was nothing short of amazing.
What do you mean? GTA Was pretty much playable on PS2
Back in the day I quit the PS2 after GT3 and switched to the PC with the advent of Windows XP and the challenge of Grand Prix Legends. I have recently purchased a Steam Deck and this is the first game I want to nail. It would seem that there were some cheats within the game that have recently come to light and they have proved quite handy!! A great game and I'm having a ball playing it.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I have none for this game, so some of the stuff you were raving about seemed like defects to me. Nostalgia truly blinds, but that's what makes it so pleasant and i wouldn't change it for anything.
My fave GT!! Loved the coffee breaks :D
Do you ever play with the view from inside the car? I play with the one where you just see the hood. I prefer to see the full vehicle I'm driving, but if I wanna win, chase cam is definitely not it.
Welcome back Colourshed
GT4 Beta Online is one of the most played online games on PS2 in 2023
I've recently bought a PS2 just to play this game :) looks like the best racing game ever made
cause it IS
One more thing for anyone wanting to start playing the game:
1.6.0 PCSX2 lets you use the Qemu wheel plugin, the 1.7.X Nightly versions do not support wheels, but run much better and let you use mods more easily.
Since I'm running with a wheel I run on the former. When using that, in Emulation Settings change EE/IOP Clamping Mode from Normal to Full (but only after you finish the licence tests), this fixes the text display issues.
In Video GS Plugin settings, disable the Large Framebuffer, enable hardware hacks and in that submenu enable Merge Sprite, Wild Arms Offset, put in Half-pixel Offset to Special (Texture-aggresive), Round Sprite to Full and Texture Offset to X:60 and Y: 00 - This will make the rims on the cars not shake during the replays like you can see in this video.
Great review of GT4!
Hey great review I got question for you are planning on playing some other rockstar games like the manhunt series And the warriors game?
Great video man! I’ve still only played GT5, GT6, GTS & GT7, I really need to pick up a PS2 and the older GT games one day!
22:48 When Jeremy Clarkson played the NSX in Laguna Seca, he chose Sports Medium tyres that comes preset in GT4 to make it easy for beginners. He should have changed it to Comfort Soft tyres which is modeled after the UHP tyres the NSX would have had as stock. Sports Medium are track tyres. With comfort soft, I was barely 3 seconds quicker than Jeremy's real life time.
Last month I finally, FINALLY beat GT4 (100%) after owning the game for almost 15 years. On PCSX2 but still, I finally did it. All A Spec too. It was such a great feeling finally finishing the last lap at Le Sarthe 24H and receiving my black Formula GT.
Gonna like 5 of your videos RN bc you deserve more views.
My all time favourite GT through my teenage years.
Im looking forward to the release of the GT4 Spec II mod.
Ive just downloaded this for thr steam deck. I cannot wait to play it again.
I personally really loved the licence tests. Some of my fondest memories playing GT4.
Widescreen 480p over YPbPr cables and Dolby Pro Logic 2 over Toslink to a receiver to surround speakers. GT4 looks and sounds unusually good for a PS2 game. The NTSC versions, anyway.
Gran Turismo 5 was my favorite in the series. (Hadn't really played the other ones except for 6) I even played the crap out of GT7 on ps5 back in 22 but then I bought a used copy of GT4 and as soon as I saw that intro I KNEW and understood right away why it's the best one. Sure, GT5 finally added ferraris, Lamborghini and Bugattis to the series but literally everything about GT4 is perfect. The presentation alone blows me away and makes me want to play that game over my ps5 and that's saying something!
I never played gt4 until we did the speedrun of it. I love gran turismo 4 more than anything and had a phenomenal time playing it. It turned me onto gran turismo and I've been buying and playing them for 3 years now pretty consistently
It's because of the GT4 camera that I always use the bumper cam and wait until after the race to watch the exterior replay.
This game is amazing, I've been playing it on my PS2 through OpenPS2Loader because the dvd drive on the console is broken, and it's been working fine! I recommend it for those who have problems playing on the ps2.
second oldworld game on stream maybe ? 🤣nice video bro i have always loved this game from day one
The issue I feel other people have after playing the first few playthrough of GT3 or 4 is that they know what kind of car give them the best chance of winning in certain events and then end up doing the same thing as they did in other events and its why they most likely find the game boring after replaying it. I have been playing GT4 for almost 2 decades now in 2 years or so and havent been bored after replaying over 10 times if not more. instead of using the same cars in events as the old playthrough just simply use different cars and switch it up a little. that is the beauty of GT4 and its endless amount of cars! its the fact that you can always change up the strategy and make it different with each saves!
It's 2023 and I'm still playing this game !!! I have Forza etc but still love this game, it's not just " was a great game " it still is a great game 😁😁