I have read the comments regarding the CEO commentary. It seems to be from 2021 and was dug up recently. while the comments are not good at all in any respect, I wanted to clarify and correct myself here for you all
Yeah it doesn't matter if it's from 3 years ago. I think That this should be shared with Cover and maybe this could be used against BiliBili in some way if some things go south.
yeah, i am not liking how this CEO still talk about haachama as if she's at fault, she is NOT, and the disrespect he shown when talking about EN and ID SMH.
@fordhos747 Give us proof I dont trust some rando making claims without proof Especially if it means defending those covid carriers who keep biting the hands that feed them
i see, it's good thing that this is old, but he apologized because he knew he fucked up right? it doesn't change the fact that statement stem from arrogance. if the guy still the ceo, it honestly doesn't instill confidence.
@fordhos747 thats what it is. the truth is hurting their pride. anyway, people hate china because their ideology, meanwhile those who hate them have their own agenda. double standard.
@fordhos747 well, nobody knows where the apology video is. I can just watch and see what unfolds. "Just like them" is just false equivalence though. In a tit-for-tat, the first attackers have no right to claim for a clean slate.
Didn't Mumei supposed to go to a Niji audition but ended up in a Holo audition and waited for Doki to appear but didn't because she got to the Niji audition there herself.
No,what they did they both auditioned at the same time but actually never mentioned to which company, so mumei was waiting for doki to show up and vice-versa
Mumei thought that Doki was going to apply to Holo so she applied to Holo, and Doki thought that Mumei was going to apply to Niji so she applied to Niji
They applied to both together and were both excited they got hired but didnf know they were hired by different companies until they noticed their Genmates include the other 😹
The CEO that runs Kobo's Bilibili is still mentioning Haachama incident & mocked other EN & ID talents that refused Bilibili? Yeah, this ain't gonna end well.
Never pander to the people that hate you. I don't know why Hololive doesn't just focus their fanbase on Taiwan instead. Hell, the whole world already support Hololive already. This seems like a greedy strategy.
@@FrarmerFrank Rumor is that Sayu is in a new agency that's a black company in China, of she actually debuts there it'd be the worst mistake of her caterer yet.
Hiring 3 Nationalists that were encouraging their more patriotic fans to harass the girls until Hachama and Coco left? Its why Yahoo axed the CN branch and exited China as Hachama is an OG and CoCo was low key Staff/Managieral that oribited her EN project still as Coco Despite that CoCo videos are still coveted in China via P2P as is a lot of Hololive content pirated into China without Bilibili or the government being able to monitor or make money off it🌈⭐
Individually Truth is without playing off each othe in this variant of their Moe Twinstyle routine they aren't very interesting by themselves so even they scribed out of pass Hololive addition Maybe they were trying to prove they could succeed without the Twin gimmick(And Failed 😹)......always play to your strengths...even if its clichés....even if its Cringe
Never heard about it..also in vid comment say mumei tried joining niji with is not true...mumei joined holo and THOUGHTthat selen will be joining her IN HOLO...I must say..this channel is 80% made up speculation..so treat everything as not true until it is proven by actual facts
Ugh. Going into business in China is such a mistake. This dude is already framing everything in the past as "their fault" and saying they "MUST APOLOGIZE" and all that. Then completely disrespecting and demeaning any of the talents that don't want to go on Bilibili. If this is genuinely the guy Sayu got roped up in, I hope she gets out NOW if it isn't too late. This is not the kind of person you want to work with and certainly not to work for. Just send him an e-mail mentioning tianamen square, taiwan, and a few other buzzwords that the oppressive totalitarian government over there cracks down on instantly, and they'll find a way to cancel your contract rest assured before their dystopian social standing rating gets decreased. China is so awful it's hard to believe it is even real and not something horrible out of a novel. Yikes. I know Sayu wanted a company but damn she is terrible at picking them.
Wow niji did really reject on pekora, marine, mumei, and fuwamacoco twins??? But I glad is did reject by niji and join hololive but who knows what will happen if join niji. 😮😮😮😮
Mumei didn't apply to Niji. She nearly did but thanks to a minor misunderstanding between Doki and Mumei where to apply, Mumei ended up in a Holo audition. Pekora applied to Holo then Niji because she thought leaving application to both companies increases her chances of getting in, Luckily Holo called first. FUWAMOCO NEVER applied to Niji so this document Salvi just read is 1/3 correct.
4 months have passed and the yacht is still sinking How will you guys feel if Natsuiro Matsuri releases a document exposing many problematic behaviors involving NIJISANJI EN talents after thoroughly reviewing it with her lawyer and Cover’s legal team just like DeputyARUUU exposing Yakirisu for her loophole of abuse?
To be fair, the Fuwamoco thing IS speculation; apparently they auditioned for MULTIPLE agencies, and it's not implausible to think they also auditioned for Nijisanji, but were probably passed on because Nijisanji (at the time) didn't wanna do one channel for two people and Hololive was... and now Nijisanji's looking at their success and realizing maybe it's not a bad idea, hence why you got them looking for "pairs" now with VTA.
Yeah, something tells me they see the writing on the wall and are all just reacting differently to the same news. Elira's probably invested so much time and energy into trying to succeed in Nijisanji and now she's seeing it go up in smoke before her very eyes, and it's definitely hurting her (and if the rrat IS true about Elira being the leader of the clique and serving as the de facto manager of the EN branch... arguably, this is her fault to begin with due to her sabotaging others for the sake of her own success). Twisty's just getting started but is adapting quickly... and for Kunai... I get the feeling her contract's ending soon, so she GENUINELY does not give even the slightest hint of a fuck.
Geez, Hololive, what were you thinking about going back to BiliBili? EDIT: This is an OLD statement and he apologized for it, I still have bad vibes tho, hopefully it goes well... Also yes, not now but by end of year or a few months after, NijiEn might feel "Empty."
@@shinodamasaru7945 I don't understand where this idea comes from that the indonesian fanbase is somehow going to win against the CCP botfarm if the antis mess with Kobo. Like we saw years ago RUclips/Cover can't really deal with that dedicated amount of hate coming from thousands of bots, no matter how much you report, and if the anti's have chinese government support it's not like reporting them will do anything either.
@@flyingoctopus4304 During the whole incident with Coco, they did try to mess with the ID branch, no idea if it was the full brunt or anything, but the ID fans were like sharks smelling blood in the waters and went for the weirdos trying to start shit, might have been a smaller portion, but still, it left an impression of the ID fans being rabidly protective of the ID talents, not in the creepy JP Idol way attacking anything resembling a male, but just keeping weirdos away from the talents, so they can stream normally.
I remember when Sayu told us how she even got temporarily traumatized with female friends in the industry because so many people even her close friends turn their back against her. She's indeed the Vtuber Pandora that opened the sacred box of Vtubing industry.
Tazumi mocks what he can't have. That vid of Doki dancing in front of an emaciated Vox and Elira is now accurate. Vox and Elira have both been cast aside with no support from Niji JP/ AnyColor.
Who do you reckon will be the people he sets up if he terminates Twisty? You can tell he's probably going to pull the same stunt, now that she retweeted Gura
Nah, he wanted a Gura thus EN and now he wants a duo cause of FuwaMocco Problem is Gura only applied cause she was laid off from Disney(Custodial) because of COVID and saw the Ad in a Trade Paper(she told the story when chat coyly asked her how she joined Hololive)...her job ncluded customer service, information,and entertaining the guests FuwaMocco are former Jpop Idols and are doing a garment of their Moe Twinstyle routine they been doing almost 2 Decades ( They are performing as Moe TwinStyle in Japan again as well since moving back) Dime a dozen rando meat waves can't replace experience or talent,or personality, or gift of gab
@@FrarmerFrank my headcanon is that Tazumi only wants to kill whatever shred of ambition these potential talents have, hook them up to the IV drip that is Niji's brand, and watch them end up with nothing if they ever leave. He KNOWS they can't all be U-san, Sayu, Kuro, etc. He knows they'll shrivel up on their own and never reach the level of talent that would make them attractive to competitors. He's Order 66ing the world's talent pool.
@@fierytigergaming8112 Probably Rosemi. She recently scrubbed her RUclips page of any mentions of Niji. If not her, then Vivi, who's back on her PL Twitch account. Either of them, and Kotoka.
@@FrarmerFrank Looking at how VSHOJO haven't blocked Nijisanji yet, it seems that your theory holds some merit btw (At the time, I thought it was copium - but knowing that Ironmouse still has contact with them... it makes the theory more likely. Plus, if what you said about Ironmouse being the ticket out of Nijisanji - this leaves management with ample motive to use the trio)
She's pretty much an anime villain. A girl who betrayed her own sister because of jealousy. Destroying everything just so she can be the queen. But when she finally sit on the throne, it felt empty and the empire is slowly crumbling down.
Why? I find her boring beyond playing straightman and annoyed big Sis to Selen's antics in Collage Same is true for me finding Vox and Ike boring when Selen isnt Trolling them as her straightmen to her antics That video was pre recorded and played by staff All that daisy chain announcements were skin walks Enna was freaking out cause Elira,Vox,and Ike weren't answering their phones or texts for 2 hours and didnt meet up with her,Millie,Mint,Matara,Michi,Kuro,Kiara,FuwaMocco, Onigiri,and Bao at vSohjo JP at the time they were supposed to Enna was telling Mint (PL Twitter) she was worried cause Elira was using her car and she might have gotten into an accident while coming to meet them When they finally showed up they only said they were called into the office......ths group was relieved thats all it was(details omitted mid you) That 2 hour MIA of the trio was the Morning before the Black Video aired later in the day The "gun" to Elira's head would be her work Visa to live in Japan so of course she would "Volunteer" her Channel and to host the video....I think Vox and Ike were just there cause they were with Elira (Was suppose to be Mille and Enna but they swapped passangers between stops....thus Enna's concern for whatever reason Elira got into an accident with Vox and Ike) Elira was shaking in fear, Vox was Cynical, Ike was just so over the situation if you want my first impressions of a hostages reading a script video I half expected if at any point they shouted they love Selen and for her to live on there would have been 3 gunshots(cause they forgot to edit it out in their incompitence) Also, it look like the trio figured Vox could get away with a few Induendos Doki might catch though saying he needed to lick his finger (then loudly flip page! Wasnt so subtle "I have read the entire document'(shakes script) and dont believe anything claimed in it is true" was a bit more coy and subtle😹 I hope Doki got the message they were being forced(though they did choose their job over a coworker I guess)
@@FrarmerFrank So, i'm not the only one who's digging for info? Did you say that you found that on Mint's PL channel? (The only thing I remember seeing is that on the 27th of January, Elira sent Enna a tweet saying that there's a possibility that due to her brain hurting, she might have to change the date of their collab - just want to know how trustworthy it is)
I find it more sad than anything, Vox is the one with the most evidence against him but since Elira is the face of EN she gets that for the positives... and the negatives. Even when she has no control over anything
I (and everyone else) was saying it was a really stupid idea, and here we are, faster than expected. Best part (and by that I mean worst) will be if/when Kobo or anyone else walks out of the deal the harassment that is sure to follow in retaliation. But hey, play stupid games and you'll win stupid prices.
Better pin a comment dude those statements were from 2021 when Metishon said those mocking comments. But he's still the CEO today so I'm having more doubts about Hololive entering the chinese market again
imo,going to Chinese platform is really a bad idea even after years now,its just not safe and seems like lots of antis there never learn their lesson,but then again,as long Fubuki in Hololive,we still can trust Hololive
Cover, time to withdraw from Bilibili, it's not too late. The CEO is sus at least when it comes to his opinions on Hololive. It's not safe for them unlike the other talents participating.
Tbf for anyone who doesn't know Twisty, she really just likes anything cute when it comes to Vtubers or anime girls. Gura fitting well under that category; don't think it's that deep.
The Ceo is just like the old wolf warriors. Acting like Cover needs them when in fact its the other way around. They need Hololive more then Hololive needs them, but he wants to make it seem for the chinese audience that Hololive came back begging them to stream in China. Yeah no...
I can agree with others in that I don’t get good vibes from this. And I still don’t know how this will end up. “They didn’t say no so obviously they agreed”???? Big fucking red flag.
All that sounds to me about that CEO is he is only really in for the drama. Which would explain why he did not know the ENs and IDs, yet was more knowledgeable about HoloJP and especially fervent to talk about Haachama and Fubuki. I hope it is not some stuff that was tweaked in translation...
It feels like people want to be super famous and popular like NIJISANJI so badly that they literally just join ny random company thinking that its the fast track to popularity, without doing any research or ACTUALLY READING THE SLANDEROUS CONTRACT and then when they end up breaking an NDA (doesn't matter if its by accident or on purpose they act all surprised and upset. If you don't want to deal with contracts don't join a black company and just grind out being an indie VTuber. It feels like a lot of people wanting to become VTubers don't want to grind they just want to skip all of that and be popular like a NIJISANJI VTuber so they will literally join any company and sign any contract. I call it "NIJISANJI blindness"
Is those "CEO" old statement, when the HoloCN still active back there, and was the CEO already apologized about it? Salvi, maybe you need to try to investigate more so it wont cause any kind of "those" holo canceled campaign. 😅
Bilibili already treats Hololive like this and it's just the start. Why Yagoo gave this a green light is very confusing. I don't see anything good happening in the long run.
Seems Cover is trying to get back into the Chinese market. Albeit gradually with a much more different and careful approach. Back when all the drama occured, EN was still in it's infancy, they practically didn't exist and were uninvolved. Some of the talents most likely were aware of what went on. That might explain their general skepticism towards hopping onto Bilibili. Also, because of the general unfamiliarity with said platform. The whole fiasco with CN was instigated by rogue members of the former CN branch and was fanned out of proportion by them. Cover was likely aware of such. Therefore I think it's highly unlikely Cover would pursue a new CN branch this time around to avoid a repeat of what happened 4 years ago.
I was thinking positively sbout Cover going back to bilibili before but if that comment from that CEO is true, i now had great concern and rethinking whether this is good or not.
I’ll say the same thing I say whenever companies work in countries with shady government: think about the fans. You can’t really punish all the fans who lives in that country just because of their government. A lot of them don’t even choose their governments. Those fans support the talents and it’s a nice thing if the company can do anything to make those fans feel included too. I’m hoping this Billibilli thing works out because it’s always better to mend bridges than to burn them.
15:33 This first meme hurts me personally (Now before you call me a Nijisister, this rant is me being a decent human being because I feel bad that Kotoka is continuing to get hate for this), as Kotoka doesn't deserve all the hate she's been receiving. People are still treating Kotoka like she needs to/deserves to rot in hell for how she treated Zaion after she was terminated, even though she was probably forced to say those things. Like with what Ellira, Vox, and Ike did with the infamous black stream after Selen was terminated.
I can understand what you are saying, and respect your position. You will not get hate from me. We may never truly know how much the livers may be forced to do things in Nijisanji.
In my opinion some Kurosanji en talents really joined the wrong company like Maria or Pomu. They are very idol like which could have fit well with Hololive but since they ended up in Kurosanji their talents are ignored which is a total waste as they could be an idol unit together.
What makes you assume they didn't apply to holo and got rejected? Hard news flash holo is way more up their own rear-ends about PL then even niji is when it comes to auditions so it is a pretty good bet that holo rejected them if they auditioned.
@myrvynaquilino1152 let's be real there is nothing called a good company all of them have things bad with them some are just better at hiding it then others
And to think about it, Niji did all of this to them self. People would have been mad at Niji for terminating Selen, but I think most people would just be relieved and moved to wherever Selen went, and that would be that. But they of course went the nuclear route, and kept dropping nukes on themselves over and over again for no reason.
I'm baffled as to why Hololive would think return to the Chinese market would be a good idea. They've been doing so well lately but decide to make such an obviously bad move.
Did Kunai ever directly explain why she made the jump to Niji beyond that canned hiatus announcement? I loved her content to bits LONG before she had live2d or even a png. Not only that, she privated everything on her previous channel and (though I personally don't gauge content creators by this) ended up with less than half its sub count now. It's always concerned me.
When someone acts as childish as that person does when denied that they mocked Hololive EN and ID, that should be a massive red flag to keep away. It shows they have not changed with their attitude and they are still as petty as ever. Saying Haachama wants to apologise. She already apologised and if they still expecting her to apologise still then that should be another massive red flag. I am hoping things go well but I doubt it, I really really doubt it. I only see more arguments and trouble working with that market.
I legit hope Hololive is treading carefully wih the plans that seem to be with Kobo and Matsuri on the other platform. I still feel weirded out but is better to remain calm yet vigilant. Ill add some comments from edit: Since Matsuri isnt exactly a beggineer in Hololive and the fact she is the one tyring that, i feel there is a test on the waters or it could be an one off time thingy, again i dont have enough knowledge to reach a conclusion yet Also, how curious the mention of the Bojack Horseman in memes, because i had been thinkingprecisely about that when recalling the actions of those who ended hurting Zaion, and Selen
First! Honestly I hope twisty is ok,and it doesn’t affect her.As a spiritmate(her fannane) I just want the best for her and to support her.As she has said before that she has oshis in Hololive,and gura being one of them.
I find that hiding likes on Twitter to be funny in one way that if a talent of Ninji like a Tweet that they didn't like they wouldn't know about it unless they log in to that talent's account. Yeah the Japanese are very strict with mods of any kind either with games or gaming consoles. Modding gaming consoles is illegal in Japan.
Fubuki embodying the Cover Corp. slogan. This "CEO" needs to take a basic class on professionalism. Bro thinks the Chinese business practices are going to fly with a Japanese company. One that could cut relations off at a moments notice and not suffer to badly as a result. It's China's second chance, not Hololive's. Niji always shot gunning from the hip, Hololive taking a measured, single ads, shot.
FuwaMoco was rejected by Niji & now they want a Walmart/Wish FWMC? 🤣🤣 Tiku Razumi be like: WRRRRYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! That metishon CEO is a complete ass wipe. Typical mainlander.
Niji GTA.. Well, that mean.. Kotoka the one who make Mel termi long ago when GTA event from so much content creator For what they make Niji GTA? They running from a fact, Kotoka is sus on Mel Termi 👀
Niji GTA is organized (supported) by kanae and hoshikawa. It is supported by the largest streamer RP server in Japan. (a.k.a. STGR, an RP server with CR, ZETA, Vspo, 774, Niji-sanji and many other famous Japanese people, including kson). It is certainly not a server for kotoka.
Hololive is 20 to 30 interviews hard, you only need a pulse to join the meat grinder 😹 Vivi still could collab with Mint and Doki in future once all the tribalism bullshit dies down like that "Remember what they took from you" Pikamee thing did Oh, I doubt they understood Doki's offer as those intern $9 an hour "Lawyers" were only there since Jan 2024 Depite her "Imposter Syndrome" she knew how many companies,sponsers,investors,and fans was orbiting NijiSanji from Tournament Esports gaming because of her Its why she wanted a early ammicab!e Graduation as part of her settlement offer for Nijisanji breeching their contract with her by not letting her play tournaments which is her M.O. content
Bro apparently that "Hololive EN mocked by CEO for refusing Bilibili" part of your video is an older statement? As in before Kobo even returned to bilibili? You might want to make that clear in your video because context is everything and even a bit of missed info is enough to drastically change the meaning of things
people need to remember that nijisanji and hololive are not enemies when talents from both sides like each other is not a taboo thing to do you can hate nijisanji, some talents may be horrible, but you can't really stop them from liking hololive and vice versa
For people confuse: Why cover did not do anything while hololive? Because cover is still blacklist by chinese govt and cover and hololive have different company status. Why talents can join project or event while company is banned? Because they never banned only company that why talents can agree or refuse project or event. (I know it's confusing but even In Real life some talents join another project while their company). P.s i feel bad about Kobo more western blaming her. 😟😔😞 It looklike Kobo don't care about blaming anymore after doxxing incident wayback. ☺😊
I have read the comments regarding the CEO commentary. It seems to be from 2021 and was dug up recently. while the comments are not good at all in any respect, I wanted to clarify and correct myself here for you all
Yeah it doesn't matter if it's from 3 years ago. I think That this should be shared with Cover and maybe this could be used against BiliBili in some way if some things go south.
@@Fender178 assuming he hasn't retracted the statement or gotten kicked from the CEO position... than yah still relevant
@@megarotom1590 Yeah very true.
yeah, i am not liking how this CEO still talk about haachama as if she's at fault, she is NOT, and the disrespect he shown when talking about EN and ID SMH.
@fordhos747
Give us proof
I dont trust some rando making claims without proof
Especially if it means defending those covid carriers who keep biting the hands that feed them
i see, it's good thing that this is old, but he apologized because he knew he fucked up right?
it doesn't change the fact that statement stem from arrogance. if the guy still the ceo, it honestly doesn't instill confidence.
@fordhos747 thats what it is. the truth is hurting their pride.
anyway, people hate china because their ideology, meanwhile those who hate them have their own agenda. double standard.
@fordhos747 well, nobody knows where the apology video is. I can just watch and see what unfolds. "Just like them" is just false equivalence though. In a tit-for-tat, the first attackers have no right to claim for a clean slate.
@fordhos747 how old? because Suisei's BIBIDIBA is just a month old.
Didn't Mumei supposed to go to a Niji audition but ended up in a Holo audition and waited for Doki to appear but didn't because she got to the Niji audition there herself.
No,what they did they both auditioned at the same time but actually never mentioned to which company, so mumei was waiting for doki to show up and vice-versa
Mumei thought that Doki was going to apply to Holo so she applied to Holo, and Doki thought that Mumei was going to apply to Niji so she applied to Niji
They applied to both together and were both excited they got hired but didnf know they were hired by different companies until they noticed their Genmates include the other 😹
is that guy really a CEO?
like bro, that guy speak like a hooligan,
All west taiwan ceos speak like that. They have no authority or government there, its just a no mans land.
@fordhos747 this is not old statement, he mention Kobo and Suisei song
@fordhos747 Are you a bot, or something?
The CEO that runs Kobo's Bilibili is still mentioning Haachama incident & mocked other EN & ID talents that refused Bilibili? Yeah, this ain't gonna end well.
Ah yes, the chinese usual technique: being racist to every country without ccp control~
The CEO runs a vtuber company. We know they are incompetent for sure.
Never pander to the people that hate you. I don't know why Hololive doesn't just focus their fanbase on Taiwan instead. Hell, the whole world already support Hololive already. This seems like a greedy strategy.
@@JWalters388 We just need to know if the platform is safe. Otherwise it's useless to invest a media that lacks security.
Ceo who!, the ceo who i know is yagoo
After this, I'd be surprised if Hololive and Sayu don't immediately just mash the Launch Escape System button on this whole China thing.
Business contract is tricky, tho if holo can push to replace this guy then its ok
I’m surprised they haven’t already
@@RoflCannon6should try Taiwan, not China.
Sayu?
@@FrarmerFrank Rumor is that Sayu is in a new agency that's a black company in China, of she actually debuts there it'd be the worst mistake of her caterer yet.
Its not too late to backout from bilibili... history literally repeats itself. Dont make the same mistake hololive.
Yeah, only Niji does that 💀
Hiring 3 Nationalists that were encouraging their more patriotic fans to harass the girls until Hachama and Coco left?
Its why Yahoo axed the CN branch and exited China as Hachama is an OG and CoCo was low key Staff/Managieral that oribited her EN project still as Coco
Despite that CoCo videos are still coveted in China via P2P as is a lot of Hololive content pirated into China without Bilibili or the government being able to monitor or make money off it🌈⭐
Fuwamoco applied for Niji and they got rejected lol now they are looking to copy them. Brilliant
Individually
Truth is without playing off each othe in this variant of their Moe Twinstyle routine they aren't very interesting by themselves so even they scribed out of pass Hololive addition
Maybe they were trying to prove they could succeed without the Twin gimmick(And Failed 😹)......always play to your strengths...even if its clichés....even if its Cringe
@FrarmerFrank they also rejected Marine and Pekora lol yeah, it must have been the twins and not Niji who messed up
FWMC applied to Niji? Where did you hear this gossip from? It has bever been verified.
@@FrarmerFrankThe twins are great individually as evident in their single streams that still take in a ton of viewership.
Never heard about it..also in vid comment say mumei tried joining niji with is not true...mumei joined holo and THOUGHTthat selen will be joining her IN HOLO...I must say..this channel is 80% made up speculation..so treat everything as not true until it is proven by actual facts
If this CEO doesn't know who Holo ID or EN members are, they aren't doing their job very well.
Dude must be living under a rice field.
Ugh. Going into business in China is such a mistake. This dude is already framing everything in the past as "their fault" and saying they "MUST APOLOGIZE" and all that. Then completely disrespecting and demeaning any of the talents that don't want to go on Bilibili.
If this is genuinely the guy Sayu got roped up in, I hope she gets out NOW if it isn't too late. This is not the kind of person you want to work with and certainly not to work for. Just send him an e-mail mentioning tianamen square, taiwan, and a few other buzzwords that the oppressive totalitarian government over there cracks down on instantly, and they'll find a way to cancel your contract rest assured before their dystopian social standing rating gets decreased. China is so awful it's hard to believe it is even real and not something horrible out of a novel.
Yikes. I know Sayu wanted a company but damn she is terrible at picking them.
the thing is, china has the most people in the world imagine getting even 1percent of that. thats why company wants to penetrate in the china market.
Wow niji did really reject on pekora, marine, mumei, and fuwamacoco twins???
But I glad is did reject by niji and join hololive but who knows what will happen if join niji. 😮😮😮😮
Mumei didn't apply to Niji. She nearly did but thanks to a minor misunderstanding between Doki and Mumei where to apply, Mumei ended up in a Holo audition. Pekora applied to Holo then Niji because she thought leaving application to both companies increases her chances of getting in, Luckily Holo called first. FUWAMOCO NEVER applied to Niji so this document Salvi just read is 1/3 correct.
4 months have passed and the yacht is still sinking
How will you guys feel if Natsuiro Matsuri releases a document exposing many problematic behaviors involving NIJISANJI EN talents after thoroughly reviewing it with her lawyer and Cover’s legal team just like DeputyARUUU exposing Yakirisu for her loophole of abuse?
To be fair, the Fuwamoco thing IS speculation; apparently they auditioned for MULTIPLE agencies, and it's not implausible to think they also auditioned for Nijisanji, but were probably passed on because Nijisanji (at the time) didn't wanna do one channel for two people and Hololive was... and now Nijisanji's looking at their success and realizing maybe it's not a bad idea, hence why you got them looking for "pairs" now with VTA.
@@jimmytsunami5275 huh? Why is it Matsuri?
If they join niji.
They are negligible
Yeah, something tells me they see the writing on the wall and are all just reacting differently to the same news. Elira's probably invested so much time and energy into trying to succeed in Nijisanji and now she's seeing it go up in smoke before her very eyes, and it's definitely hurting her (and if the rrat IS true about Elira being the leader of the clique and serving as the de facto manager of the EN branch... arguably, this is her fault to begin with due to her sabotaging others for the sake of her own success). Twisty's just getting started but is adapting quickly... and for Kunai... I get the feeling her contract's ending soon, so she GENUINELY does not give even the slightest hint of a fuck.
Geez, Hololive, what were you thinking about going back to BiliBili?
EDIT: This is an OLD statement and he apologized for it, I still have bad vibes tho, hopefully it goes well...
Also yes, not now but by end of year or a few months after, NijiEn might feel "Empty."
It's just Kobo and Matsuri. But, mess with Kobo, ...
I swear there were more people saying it was an old statement and asking salvi to clarify an hour ago.....
Maybe just my imagination....
@@shinodamasaru7945 I don't understand where this idea comes from that the indonesian fanbase is somehow going to win against the CCP botfarm if the antis mess with Kobo.
Like we saw years ago RUclips/Cover can't really deal with that dedicated amount of hate coming from thousands of bots, no matter how much you report, and if the anti's have chinese government support it's not like reporting them will do anything either.
@@flyingoctopus4304 During the whole incident with Coco, they did try to mess with the ID branch, no idea if it was the full brunt or anything, but the ID fans were like sharks smelling blood in the waters and went for the weirdos trying to start shit, might have been a smaller portion, but still, it left an impression of the ID fans being rabidly protective of the ID talents, not in the creepy JP Idol way attacking anything resembling a male, but just keeping weirdos away from the talents, so they can stream normally.
@@VampyrMygg I understand, but that won't help against the bots that Coco/Watame/Fubuki etc. got.
Metishon who? I dont even who they are.
I remember when Sayu told us how she even got temporarily traumatized with female friends in the industry because so many people even her close friends turn their back against her. She's indeed the Vtuber Pandora that opened the sacred box of Vtubing industry.
Personally i dont like the idea of holo going back to CN. However, i trust Cover in knowing what they are doing.
At this point I really believe that she's attempting a speed run here.
Tazumi mocks what he can't have. That vid of Doki dancing in front of an emaciated Vox and Elira is now accurate. Vox and Elira have both been cast aside with no support from Niji JP/ AnyColor.
Who do you reckon will be the people he sets up if he terminates Twisty? You can tell he's probably going to pull the same stunt, now that she retweeted Gura
Nah, he wanted a Gura thus EN and now he wants a duo cause of FuwaMocco
Problem is Gura only applied cause she was laid off from Disney(Custodial) because of COVID and saw the Ad in a Trade Paper(she told the story when chat coyly asked her how she joined Hololive)...her job ncluded customer service, information,and entertaining the guests
FuwaMocco are former Jpop Idols and are doing a garment of their Moe Twinstyle routine they been doing almost 2 Decades ( They are performing as Moe TwinStyle in Japan again as well since moving back)
Dime a dozen rando meat waves can't replace experience or talent,or personality, or gift of gab
@@FrarmerFrank my headcanon is that Tazumi only wants to kill whatever shred of ambition these potential talents have, hook them up to the IV drip that is Niji's brand, and watch them end up with nothing if they ever leave. He KNOWS they can't all be U-san, Sayu, Kuro, etc. He knows they'll shrivel up on their own and never reach the level of talent that would make them attractive to competitors. He's Order 66ing the world's talent pool.
@@fierytigergaming8112 Probably Rosemi. She recently scrubbed her RUclips page of any mentions of Niji. If not her, then Vivi, who's back on her PL Twitch account. Either of them, and Kotoka.
@@FrarmerFrank Looking at how VSHOJO haven't blocked Nijisanji yet, it seems that your theory holds some merit btw (At the time, I thought it was copium - but knowing that Ironmouse still has contact with them... it makes the theory more likely. Plus, if what you said about Ironmouse being the ticket out of Nijisanji - this leaves management with ample motive to use the trio)
Man, i wish the holo b2 project stop midway because of this. Cn fans could just use vpn to youtube
They can try. We can crash their market to bottom.
No doubs that CEO will cause the holowars 2.0 or best case scenario, the fallback of hololive on b2
Chances are after this conflict, the guy will be getting Artia treatment.
This time, we will bankrupt B2.
Will Taiwan forgive hololive for this?
@@mshake7056
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Buddy Taiwan fans still rent buses to push their hololive oshi.
@@mshake7056 It's the Chinese. Taiwans are pretty ok with Hololive
NOPE , NOPE COVER SHOULD SEE WHAT THIS CEO IS DOING I CAN SMELL THE RAT A MILE AWAY
i just find it funny that Elira really became the face of the NijiEN horrible actions nowadays...
She's pretty much an anime villain.
A girl who betrayed her own sister because of jealousy. Destroying everything just so she can be the queen. But when she finally sit on the throne, it felt empty and the empire is slowly crumbling down.
You could make an anime out of that lmao@@kos2919
Why?
I find her boring beyond playing straightman and annoyed big Sis to Selen's antics in Collage
Same is true for me finding Vox and Ike boring when Selen isnt Trolling them as her straightmen to her antics
That video was pre recorded and played by staff
All that daisy chain announcements were skin walks
Enna was freaking out cause Elira,Vox,and Ike weren't answering their phones or texts for 2 hours and didnt meet up with her,Millie,Mint,Matara,Michi,Kuro,Kiara,FuwaMocco, Onigiri,and Bao at vSohjo JP at the time they were supposed to
Enna was telling Mint (PL Twitter) she was worried cause Elira was using her car and she might have gotten into an accident while coming to meet them
When they finally showed up they only said they were called into the office......ths group was relieved thats all it was(details omitted mid you)
That 2 hour MIA of the trio was the Morning before the Black Video aired later in the day
The "gun" to Elira's head would be her work Visa to live in Japan so of course she would "Volunteer" her Channel and to host the video....I think Vox and Ike were just there cause they were with Elira (Was suppose to be Mille and Enna but they swapped passangers between stops....thus Enna's concern for whatever reason Elira got into an accident with Vox and Ike)
Elira was shaking in fear, Vox was Cynical, Ike was just so over the situation if you want my first impressions of a hostages reading a script video
I half expected if at any point they shouted they love Selen and for her to live on there would have been 3 gunshots(cause they forgot to edit it out in their incompitence)
Also, it look like the trio figured Vox could get away with a few Induendos Doki might catch though saying he needed to lick his finger (then loudly flip page! Wasnt so subtle
"I have read the entire document'(shakes script) and dont believe anything claimed in it is true" was a bit more coy and subtle😹
I hope Doki got the message they were being forced(though they did choose their job over a coworker I guess)
@@FrarmerFrank So, i'm not the only one who's digging for info? Did you say that you found that on Mint's PL channel? (The only thing I remember seeing is that on the 27th of January, Elira sent Enna a tweet saying that there's a possibility that due to her brain hurting, she might have to change the date of their collab - just want to know how trustworthy it is)
I find it more sad than anything, Vox is the one with the most evidence against him but since Elira is the face of EN she gets that for the positives... and the negatives. Even when she has no control over anything
I (and everyone else) was saying it was a really stupid idea, and here we are, faster than expected. Best part (and by that I mean worst) will be if/when Kobo or anyone else walks out of the deal the harassment that is sure to follow in retaliation. But hey, play stupid games and you'll win stupid prices.
Better pin a comment dude those statements were from 2021 when Metishon said those mocking comments.
But he's still the CEO today so I'm having more doubts about Hololive entering the chinese market again
done
imo,going to Chinese platform is really a bad idea even after years now,its just not safe and seems like lots of antis there never learn their lesson,but then again,as long Fubuki in Hololive,we still can trust Hololive
We should Collab with Dr. Kavanaugh.
I'm not sure of Fubuki. She was emotional and say a little bad thing that time, that's why she got more attacked than Haachama
@@PrayogiCristian he refers to what FBK said: As long as I am here, you can trust Cover (is a good company).
@@mimoyfalcon2153 Yeah and she said that if Cover is going down a different, less favourable path, then she'll leave.
@@mimoyfalcon2153 yes she say that too but still she said something to make Chinese people triggered
Cover, time to withdraw from Bilibili, it's not too late. The CEO is sus at least when it comes to his opinions on Hololive. It's not safe for them unlike the other talents participating.
Tbf for anyone who doesn't know Twisty, she really just likes anything cute when it comes to Vtubers or anime girls. Gura fitting well under that category; don't think it's that deep.
Altare really went with the "oh now thr guild has no money. BUST OUT THE POLE!!!!"
The Ceo is just like the old wolf warriors. Acting like Cover needs them when in fact its the other way around. They need Hololive more then Hololive needs them, but he wants to make it seem for the chinese audience that Hololive came back begging them to stream in China. Yeah no...
I can agree with others in that I don’t get good vibes from this. And I still don’t know how this will end up.
“They didn’t say no so obviously they agreed”???? Big fucking red flag.
That Shinri spaghetti dance tho!
He doesn't know HoloEN?
Uhmmmm who is he again? I think RUclips doesn't know him also until now
I don't know anyone who doesn't know Calli or Gura. Dude is so far behind or he's just trying to sound arrogant.
@@czaczaczar bruh thinks holocn still exist ,ignorant af
All that sounds to me about that CEO is he is only really in for the drama.
Which would explain why he did not know the ENs and IDs, yet was more knowledgeable about HoloJP and especially fervent to talk about Haachama and Fubuki.
I hope it is not some stuff that was tweaked in translation...
It feels like people want to be super famous and popular like NIJISANJI so badly that they literally just join ny random company thinking that its the fast track to popularity, without doing any research or ACTUALLY READING THE SLANDEROUS CONTRACT and then when they end up breaking an NDA (doesn't matter if its by accident or on purpose they act all surprised and upset. If you don't want to deal with contracts don't join a black company and just grind out being an indie VTuber. It feels like a lot of people wanting to become VTubers don't want to grind they just want to skip all of that and be popular like a NIJISANJI VTuber so they will literally join any company and sign any contract. I call it "NIJISANJI blindness"
It's the reason Niji forces the contracts to be signed under duress and also the reason they target minors. It's because children don't know better.
Is those "CEO" old statement, when the HoloCN still active back there, and was the CEO already apologized about it?
Salvi, maybe you need to try to investigate more so it wont cause any kind of "those" holo canceled campaign. 😅
China drama starting to blow up 😂😂 it is expected
Bilibili already treats Hololive like this and it's just the start. Why Yagoo gave this a green light is very confusing. I don't see anything good happening in the long run.
oi metishon ceo, grow up.
Who? I don't even know who they are. First thing I hear from him and he is dissing EN and ID talent.
Seems Cover is trying to get back into the Chinese market. Albeit gradually with a much more different and careful approach. Back when all the drama occured, EN was still in it's infancy, they practically didn't exist and were uninvolved. Some of the talents most likely were aware of what went on. That might explain their general skepticism towards hopping onto Bilibili. Also, because of the general unfamiliarity with said platform.
The whole fiasco with CN was instigated by rogue members of the former CN branch and was fanned out of proportion by them. Cover was likely aware of such. Therefore I think it's highly unlikely Cover would pursue a new CN branch this time around to avoid a repeat of what happened 4 years ago.
I was thinking positively sbout Cover going back to bilibili before but if that comment from that CEO is true, i now had great concern and rethinking whether this is good or not.
Please Yagoo you need to see this and Think about it.
It's funny because as sure as I am that it's prerecorded, I still think it's live.
I’ll say the same thing I say whenever companies work in countries with shady government: think about the fans. You can’t really punish all the fans who lives in that country just because of their government. A lot of them don’t even choose their governments. Those fans support the talents and it’s a nice thing if the company can do anything to make those fans feel included too. I’m hoping this Billibilli thing works out because it’s always better to mend bridges than to burn them.
Kuro EN kinda invested in their talent, t and yeah it's only in golden boy luxiem lol
15:33 This first meme hurts me personally (Now before you call me a Nijisister, this rant is me being a decent human being because I feel bad that Kotoka is continuing to get hate for this), as Kotoka doesn't deserve all the hate she's been receiving.
People are still treating Kotoka like she needs to/deserves to rot in hell for how she treated Zaion after she was terminated, even though she was probably forced to say those things. Like with what Ellira, Vox, and Ike did with the infamous black stream after Selen was terminated.
I can understand what you are saying, and respect your position. You will not get hate from me. We may never truly know how much the livers may be forced to do things in Nijisanji.
Just wait until hololive english announces its generation 4 audition!😏😏😏😏
Bilibili's CEO shot himself in the foot here with these remarks
Billibilli can shoo, we dont need it
When I saw the CEO in the title
Me: Riku!!!!
Riku: what?
Sorry, force of habit
In my opinion some Kurosanji en talents really joined the wrong company like Maria or Pomu. They are very idol like which could have fit well with Hololive but since they ended up in Kurosanji their talents are ignored which is a total waste as they could be an idol unit together.
What makes you assume they didn't apply to holo and got rejected? Hard news flash holo is way more up their own rear-ends about PL then even niji is when it comes to auditions so it is a pretty good bet that holo rejected them if they auditioned.
@@brandonhowell5096 true just saying that the got accepted to a bad company
@myrvynaquilino1152 let's be real there is nothing called a good company all of them have things bad with them some are just better at hiding it then others
Raise your hands up and give Twisty your strength
Why twisty keeps doing weird things lol.
Surreal
And to think about it, Niji did all of this to them self. People would have been mad at Niji for terminating Selen, but I think most people would just be relieved and moved to wherever Selen went, and that would be that. But they of course went the nuclear route, and kept dropping nukes on themselves over and over again for no reason.
I'm baffled as to why Hololive would think return to the Chinese market would be a good idea. They've been doing so well lately but decide to make such an obviously bad move.
My gut is telling me that Kobo simply wanted to.
Did Kunai ever directly explain why she made the jump to Niji beyond that canned hiatus announcement? I loved her content to bits LONG before she had live2d or even a png. Not only that, she privated everything on her previous channel and (though I personally don't gauge content creators by this) ended up with less than half its sub count now. It's always concerned me.
When someone acts as childish as that person does when denied that they mocked Hololive EN and ID, that should be a massive red flag to keep away. It shows they have not changed with their attitude and they are still as petty as ever.
Saying Haachama wants to apologise. She already apologised and if they still expecting her to apologise still then that should be another massive red flag. I am hoping things go well but I doubt it, I really really doubt it. I only see more arguments and trouble working with that market.
Twisty.....😢
I legit hope Hololive is treading carefully wih the plans that seem to be with Kobo and Matsuri on the other platform. I still feel weirded out but is better to remain calm yet vigilant.
Ill add some comments from edit: Since Matsuri isnt exactly a beggineer in Hololive and the fact she is the one tyring that, i feel there is a test on the waters or it could be an one off time thingy, again i dont have enough knowledge to reach a conclusion yet
Also, how curious the mention of the Bojack Horseman in memes, because i had been thinkingprecisely about that when recalling the actions of those who ended hurting Zaion, and Selen
First!
Honestly I hope twisty is ok,and it doesn’t affect her.As a spiritmate(her fannane) I just want the best for her and to support her.As she has said before that she has oshis in Hololive,and gura being one of them.
Best of luck to her.
@@SeanStrife yea
I find that hiding likes on Twitter to be funny in one way that if a talent of Ninji like a Tweet that they didn't like they wouldn't know about it unless they log in to that talent's account. Yeah the Japanese are very strict with mods of any kind either with games or gaming consoles. Modding gaming consoles is illegal in Japan.
Im on Vtuber news as a main topic YAAY
Idk why holo is even trying to get back into the Chinese market. I thought we learned our lesson after the whole Taiwan fiasco.
Man, Twisty is so damn Based 🤣
So I see we're setting up a new black company, just as we've finished off the last BBEG. Wouldn't be Vtubing if every arc didn't have one I guess.
Fubuki embodying the Cover Corp. slogan. This "CEO" needs to take a basic class on professionalism. Bro thinks the Chinese business practices are going to fly with a Japanese company. One that could cut relations off at a moments notice and not suffer to badly as a result. It's China's second chance, not Hololive's. Niji always shot gunning from the hip, Hololive taking a measured, single ads, shot.
FuwaMoco was rejected by Niji & now they want a Walmart/Wish FWMC? 🤣🤣
Tiku Razumi be like: WRRRRYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
That metishon CEO is a complete ass wipe. Typical mainlander.
1:34 the "Riku dont look" just doesnt hit as hard like when the green parrot says it
I'm leaving Holo JP if this is true...
Niji GTA..
Well, that mean.. Kotoka the one who make Mel termi long ago when GTA event from so much content creator
For what they make Niji GTA? They running from a fact, Kotoka is sus on Mel Termi 👀
Niji GTA is organized (supported) by kanae and hoshikawa.
It is supported by the largest streamer RP server in Japan. (a.k.a. STGR, an RP server with CR, ZETA, Vspo, 774, Niji-sanji and many other famous Japanese people, including kson).
It is certainly not a server for kotoka.
Wow, you had to bring trump into this?
Dropped.
Hololive is 20 to 30 interviews hard, you only need a pulse to join the meat grinder 😹
Vivi still could collab with Mint and Doki in future once all the tribalism bullshit dies down like that "Remember what they took from you" Pikamee thing did
Oh, I doubt they understood Doki's offer as those intern $9 an hour "Lawyers" were only there since Jan 2024
Depite her "Imposter Syndrome" she knew how many companies,sponsers,investors,and fans was orbiting NijiSanji from Tournament Esports gaming because of her
Its why she wanted a early ammicab!e Graduation as part of her settlement offer for Nijisanji breeching their contract with her by not letting her play tournaments which is her M.O. content
You're sounding less and less like a robot or someone that is reading off a script, but still needs work.
Bro apparently that "Hololive EN mocked by CEO for refusing Bilibili" part of your video is an older statement? As in before Kobo even returned to bilibili? You might want to make that clear in your video because context is everything and even a bit of missed info is enough to drastically change the meaning of things
what the fck
😮
people need to remember that nijisanji and hololive are not enemies
when talents from both sides like each other is not a taboo thing to do
you can hate nijisanji, some talents may be horrible, but you can't really stop them from liking hololive and vice versa
For people confuse:
Why cover did not do anything while hololive? Because cover is still blacklist by chinese govt and cover and hololive have different company status.
Why talents can join project or event while company is banned? Because they never banned only company that why talents can agree or refuse project or event. (I know it's confusing but even In Real life some talents join another project while their company).
P.s i feel bad about Kobo more western blaming her. 😟😔😞
It looklike Kobo don't care about blaming anymore after doxxing incident wayback. ☺😊