Daypack + Camerabag = ? Quicklook at Boundary Supply Prima System
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- A pretty neat mixture between a daypack and a camerabag.
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HOW I REVIEW:
As you might know from my „How I make a buying decision“ video: Rather than just looking at the pros, I like to evaluate the cons or flaws of an item and then evaluate if I can live with them. That is why in my video reviews I concentrate more on the cons of an item rather than going over all the features. Therefore everything shown is just a fraction of all the points that go into the verdict and score of an item.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A QUICKLOOK AND A REVIEW:
A Quicklook usually covers pre-production units or items that I only used for a short period of time. While Reviews cover final items that I have reviewed intensively.
LINKS:
For all my videos I decided not to include links for the products. Everyone is living in different countries and therefore has to deal with different shipping and customs fees. That is why I would advice everyone just to Google the product within their country to find the best deals.
For instance: I live in Germany, It wouldn’t make sense to give you a German link while you might be living in USA or Asia. I hope that is understandable.
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However here is the gear that I use to create videos:
- MY CAMERA GEAR -
Sony a6300
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Sony 16-50mm kit lens
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- MY AUDIO GEAR -
Rode Videomic pro
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Rode RodeLink Lav Mic
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Tascam DR-05 Audiorecorder
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- MY EDITING GEAR -
MacBook Pro Retina
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Logitech MX Master
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I've been watching your bag reviews. I love how you thoroughly break down each components. Also lovin the close-ups on the fabric and how each zipper & clasps open and close- it's just what I look for in a bag review. I'm wondering how you will like classics like Mystery Ranch's duffle and 3 DAP pack...
Thank you very much! Means a lot to me. Mystery Ranch has some very interesting designs and a very good reputation. Unfortunately I haven't been able to test one yet.
THIS IS A LONG REVIEW: I just want everyone to see my real-life use experiences:
Before I bought the backpack, I checked every review of the bag but nearly none of the reviews out there had real life testing. There're a lot of promising features in the bag and the materials are very impressive.
But after I received the backpack and became a real user in the field, the experience isn't as good as it looks to be on paper.
1. The verge case as an insert is a bright idea. But it was a poorly executed one. It used very thick materials and round design to offer more protection. However, as a mirrorless user who uses Fuji and Sony A7 series, the verge case can barely fit A7ii with 50mm lens plus a 85mm prime lens. It's very tight. No review describes how small the verge case is, comparing to other similarly designed bags like PRVKE 21.
2. The verge case is attached to the bag with two snap on buttons. The buttons are very well made and you can feel the quality. However, the verge case has a smaller width compared to the internal dimension of the backpack. The verge is only attached to the backpack on ONE side. When I have my A7II and another lens in the verge case, it sinks to the bottom of the backpack quite a bit. It's awkwardly placed in the backpack. The backpack is thus unbalanced with just my mirrorless setup.
3. As a result of the lack of balance, and weight of the verge case attached on only the right side of the backpack, where the two snap buttons are located, the overall shape of the backpack is ruined. It's worse when you have a center zipper that can always show the shape of the backpack when you're wearing. Your center zipper will always tilt to the side of the verge case.
4. Because of the room left out between the bottom of the backpack and the verge case, and the verge case sinking in because of the weight, it's REALLY hard to retrieve your gear with quick-access door. Again, it's another conceptually great design, but poorly performed feature. It was a lot of effort to take my A7ii out from that side door.
5. The verge case is expandable. Great thoughts over there, but it expands to the bottom. You still only have one divider. So it's only useful when you're trying to fit in a longer lens with a long length. It doesn't create additional dividers when you want to put another 2 prime lens in. You're stuck with 2 compartments in the verge case.
6. The bottom of the bag curves up and makes the backpack absolutely impossible to stand on its own. It's not as a big issue as the other ones.
7. To support Bo Ismono's points from his short look video, Boundary prima systems weights really heavy and has a hard time maintaining its shape when it's not completely full. You can find Bo testing an earlier version on his channel.
8. The backpack allows cameras in the verge case fall into the main compartment. Because the verge case's door is connected to the side access pocket door, it's always relatively open to the main compartment at all times. I haven't had things fallen out yet since I haven't carried a really small prime lens in it. But if you have a Fuji 35f2, I think it has a chance of happening.
In short, REALLY try it on for an extended period of time before you decide to keep it. Just by reading the online reviews, you may conclude that this is the perfect bag, but it's the real life uses that make this backpack not so great. Don't just look at unboxing videos or descriptive recommendations like the one above. Really try to find users who had longer experience with the backpack.
About return policy of Boundary, I was told they will not accept any return if the backpack has been used.
When you want to try it out, don't use it outdoors and try to keep it new.
That's interesting, I don't have a problem fitting my Canon 6d with a 24-70 and a 50mm next to it with the separator.
the removable insert is cool
Love bags that use the top loader system + the zipper in the middle! Like the LBB one you reviewed a long time ago
Yeah, the zipper kinda reminds me of the Breakaway as well, but actually this kind of zipper style has been used by companies like Mystery Ranch for a pretty long time as far as I know.
I just backed it on Kickstarter. But I really like and agree with your feedback! Maybe the creators should listen to it, improve those details and make the bag even more awesome! :)
+Marian Balko cool. I'm not sure if they can actually change that much after prototyping. But I have no idea how a development and production process works. But fingers crossed that they look into this feedback
nothing is impossible (:
+Sekuso Trez wow. That is awesome. It's great to see that they improved the bag. Thanks for letting me know. Have you bought the bag?
Great overview. Now that I have the pack, I’m glad to see a few of the small changes they made to the pack that fall in line with your video.
+Infosmercial that's awesome. I'm glad that you are happy with the bag.
Will you do a review on the Wandrd Prvke 21 or 31 Bag Please!!
It's on my wishlist ;-) But I haven't had the chance to get one yet
I cant wait man! Thanks
This bag has side handle one side and bottle on the opposite side, if you hold the bag by the handle, will the bottle fall off?
Nice job !
Your quicklook nicely completes the Kickstarter presentation, I like your critical approach as well.
I am both very interested by this concept and a bit concerned by the system when the "Verge" is combined into the backpack. As you mention in the video, there is a gap between the Verge and the bottom of the backpack main compartment, which is difficult to access.
Does the backpack stand on the floor, or properly provide support your lower back, when this gap is empty ?
Isn't there a lot of wasted space there ?
Thank you very much, Bastien!
Yeah, the gap underneath is a little "concerning" because you tend to loose stuff there. But I usually carry a sweater or jacket just in case (Hamburg tends to have quick changing weather). I put that jacket in that space which then again gives me some more padding. But even if empty there is enough support on your lower back. As for standing up, this really depends on the items and the weight distribution inside the bag.
Let me know if you have any more questions
First off love your vids... they are not long at all and for the reviews, i love that you have a scoring system. im down to choosing this bag-Prima system and the Aer Travel Backpack, so was trying to look for your score on the Prima System. =) either way, between the two, not to put you on the spot, what would you recommend?
-I will mostly be using it for travel, and mostly be taking the following...15" MacBook, a mirrorless cam, a tripod, a gimbal, a couple of go pros and the usual peripherals. That said, I know i said i will mostly be using it for travel, but curious as to which of the two you think would be a good day pack as well? Im torn! help! =)
Hey Jai.
Thank you very much. That is kinda a difficult question, because you can't compare them. They are totally different: While the Boundary is more gravitating towards being a everyday carry bag, the AER Travel Pack is gravitating towards a weekender carry on bag. That being said: If you can live with the size of the AER, then I believe that one is the more flexible choice for traveling. It's "Simple" maincompartment with it's clamshell opening adapts more easily to your packing style. So you can use a couple of different pouches and cubes for your equipment and then just store it inside. And on the day you can just compress the bag for easier day use. But as I said: It is bigger and for me it is slightly over the size that I usually prefer as a edc bag.
please review a one-bag travel with a laptop compartment(15inches)... i'm choosing between the nirth face overhaul40 and riut 25 (if you can consider it a travel bag) also carry-on...
+Lawrence Royce Manapsal check out the aer travel pack. It's one of my favourite one bag travel backpacks
Very nice quick review. The Kickstarter page says the removable "Verge" case can fit 1 DSLR, with a prime lens, and a medium zoom lens. I couldn't find the exact dimensions anywhere and there are so many different types of cameras and lens. Do you by any chance know if it'll fit a Canon 6D with a Canon 135mm f2L attached? And if so, how comfortably would you say?
+Tuan Truong thanks, Tuan.
That's a good question. Unfortunately I don't have a DSLR anymore, and if don't know how big the 135mm is, but I would guess both would definitely fit into the case detached. But with the lens attached (considering it is a f2L lens) I'm not sure.
Bo Ismono Thanks for the response!
+Tuan Truong you're very welcome 😉 ✌️
Hi, as always, awesome video!
Which of these bags do you like more?
- LBB peloton
- Black Ember TL3 (gen3)
- WNDRD Provke (21L / 31L)
- Boundary Prisma System
- Peak Design Backpack
Thanks
+Roberto Pommerening thanks, Roberto. That is a difficult question, because all of them serve slightly different purposes. But besides the peloton all of them more or less accommodate some kind of photography equipment. Of all the ones you mentioned, I have only tested the Boundary and the peloton. All of them are quite compelling though
How do you think the quality of Indonesian bags (Eiger, Consina, Arei-you can check their instagram) when compared with bags of europe?
I’ve been considering the Prima System and PRVKE. Even with modules removed, the Prima is heavier. Do you find the Prima too heavy for a everyday?
I guess the upside is the Verge case allows you to go super lightweight. Looks like expanding the Verge just makes the bag deeper. Can you move the dividers further to stack and protect camera equipment?
Hey,
I haven't tested the PRVKE yet. So I can't compare the two. But to me the Boudary is not too heavy when empty. The verge is expandable but I'm not sure if the dividers extend in the final version. But I doubt it.
Get PRVKE.
I carried this with A7ii with 85 1.8 and Fuji X100F, plus a headphone , a phone charger and an iPad. It was too heavy....
I was wondering would you be able to tell me the width of the backpack strap?
Hey Bo great video and thanks for the review! Can i ask how much did you pay extra for duties in germany ?
+Pavlos Topalidis hey Pavlos. Thank you very much. Unfortunately I don't remember how much the custom fees were. Sorry.
What are the external dimensions of this bag? Haven't been able to find them on the kickstarter page.
Does it have or can it be modified to put a hydration bladder?
the front zipper opening kinda reminds me of lifebehindbars' breakaway eh?
btw..no more irritating "short disclaimer" before the video. i like it :)
keep up the good work bo :D
+Ginanjar Gigi thank you very much. Yes it kinda reminds me of the Breakaway as well, but this kind of zipper opening has been used by mystery ranch quite a lot before.
I put the disclaimer into the description. It was necessary at first because there used to be some comments in the beginning saying that I missed something or only cover flaws but give the bag a high score.
i love your sincerely opinion ,I just subscribed , I love backpacks , and I saw you talk about it a lot so I can't wait to see all your videos :) greetings from peru
+Denisse salas castillo thank you very much, Denisse. Really appreciate the sub and the kind words. Cheers ✌️😉
Hey Bo; I'm currently looking for a packback I have to bike with to school every day starting UNI after summer. The peak everyday looks neat but I can't afford it so now I got my eyes on this one. Is this what you'd recommend for carrying a laptop, a small camera, some books and such or would you go a messenger or maybe another bag entirely? Best wishes, really enjoy your format.
+ScrattleGG thanks.
I personally would advice against a messenger bag. With all the stuff that you want to carry, you want to distribute the weight on both shoulders. A messenger will exhaust your one shoulder quite fast.
The boundary is a very cool bag. But maybe also take a look at the px design bag. I like it quite a lot although it doesn't have a separate camera compartment. Do you need the camera compartment?
It isn't a must for an actually dedicated camera compartment. Not at all. Just want something stylish, somewhat decent looking that'll carry my laptop my books maybe a camera and keep it dry when I'm biking.
I appreciate the response. When you say px bag do you mean the invisible bag?
Been looking at the Timbuk2 Rogue and osprey flapjack as well
Thank you for the great review! I've just backed this item up at Kickstarter, but I'm not really sure this back will go with my daily use. I'm looking for a mostly daily backpack(with tablet, some notes, pencils and notes, I don't carry cameras etc, and I commute by bike) and sometimes carry on to the plane. I'm a 5'5"(165cm) height girl. I've owned high sierra access bag which is not really durable and has torn down after several usages. Do you have any suggestions? Would it be ok to go with this bag?
+JiYoung Kim you are about the same height as me. It is manageable and doesn't look too big on my back. As you don't carry cameras, you will probably not need the insert. Without the padded camera insert the bag will be much more flat and therefore better for daily use Imho
Thank you for the reply!
+JiYoung Kim you're very welcome
Hay Bo, ich bin grade erst auf deine Videos aufmerksam geworden und sofort ist mir dieser Rucksack aufgefallen. Habe gesehen das man ihn nur aus den USA bestellen kann und ich habe relativ schlechte Erfahrungen mit dem Zoll aus Amerika gemacht. Musstest du irgendwelche Gebühren zahlen oder sind diese schon im errechneten Versand von Boundary enthalten?
Lg. Flo
Music is way too loud, bro.
Can you review any of Brevite backpacks pleaaaase ... your channel is awesome
Thank you very much. It is on my wishlist. I hope I can review one in the future
Hey Bo, I was just wondering if the laptop compartment will be able to fit a laptop that's 2cm thick. Thanks.
That's a good question. I don't have a laptop with that thickness available to test out, but I would assume that it should work. Have you tried asking Boundary directly?
Bo Ismono gonna try it now, thanks for the reply!
Any plans of reviewing the final product ? The inner pockets in the main compartment has zipper (they surely got your feedback :-) )
None of the you tubers have posted a clean video showing the bag interiors properly. Camera angles are far or hand held. I would love to buy this bag but need to understand how all the stuff fits in after removing the camera bag.
Sorry, Chinmay. I probably wont review the final bag. But the bag basically acts like a "normal" toploading backpack as soon as you remove the camera compartment. what kind of items you are looking to load into it
I received the bag in early April and it has so far failed to meet my expectations. I won't recommend it. I did post my review in this video's comments if you want to know why.
Hey Steve,
I'm sorry to hear that you aren't happy with the bag. I was looking through the comments to find your review, but couldn't find it. But most of the comments from you that I could find sound understandable. So are you using the bag without the inserts now?
Bo Ismono Hi Bo! They deleted my comment as spam but that’s alright.
Yeah I don’t rate the bag highly but it’s not the worst bag I have. It’s built around a cool concept but a lot of details are overlooked. Those things make it a very poor camera bag.
If I use without the insert, it’s an ok backpack. The downsides are: weight, hard to keep its shape, doesn’t stand on itself. I’m not using the bag at all right now.
Oh ok. Thanks for the info. And thanks for replying to all the questions. I think that experience adds a lot of value. And as I always say, knowing the flaws of an item helps alot to evaluate if you can live or work around these flaws.
Thanks, mate 😉 ✌️
How does this compare to the peak design everyday backpack?
Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to check out the Peak Design yet :-(
I think (or rather I guess, because I haven't had the chance to test the peak design yet) that the peak design is slightly more photography related, while the Boundary tries to balance photographybackpack and daypack.
Bo Ismono well said Bo!
does the side opening have to unzip twice in order to gain access to the camera? is there an integrated sleeve that merge the opening?
I asked to the kickstater team, they answered that both flaps could be attached together and opened at once. I do not know how though (sleeve, press-fit ...)
The overall weight is almost 5 lbs. Isn't it too heavy for a backpack? How is the feeling when putting it on the shoulder?
+Robin Lin it feels quite comfortable. The shoulder straps and the back are well padded.
Moin Bo, ich überlege mir den Rucksack zu gönnen. Hauptsächlich für Fotografie und Tagestrips. Ich würde aber gerne wissen, wie viel in das Kamerasegment passt. Ich besitze eine A6300 + 2 mittelgroße Linsen und eine Mavic Pro. Denkst du, dass genug Platz existiert? Falls man mal mehr Equipment mitnehmen möchte gibt es nun ja auch noch den Extra Einsatz für 100 Euro. Danke für die Antwort
Moin Tom.
Also die a6300 mit zwei Linsen (es sei denn es sind zwei 70-200mm f2.8 Linsen 😂) passt da rein. Aber ich hab ehrlich gesagt noch nie eine Mavic in der Hand gehabt und kann die Grösse nicht gut einschätzen. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass die da noch in das kameracase passt. Aber sicher bin ich mir nicht.
Your videos and reviews are awesome! What would you recommend as the best carry on bag for traveling 3-4 days? Please help!
james kim try osprey farpoint 40
Thank you very much, James. To be quite honest, it is very difficult to answer that question, because everyone has different packing styles and it depends on the location or event. For instance, if you travel for work you might need a second pair of shoes which will take up a lot of space or at least more than just a pair of running shoes. Or if you go to a cold destinations, you will need sweaters.
But if it comes down to a bag around 30L carry on size, then I like the AER Travel Backpack quite a lot.
Osprey has some great bags, unfortunately I haven't tested any of them yet.
THANK YOU! But I was hoping you can recommend a carry on that has wheels kind of like the Thule Duffle bag crossover. I don't want to purchase the Thule Duffle bag because I feel like its too big to pass as a carryon on most flights.
+james kim oh I see. Have you seen my "favorite bags 1.0" video? The Eastpak is a very cool rolling carry on sized trolley
How much room is there under the camera insert when it is in place? Seems like a solid backpack!
+jkoepis maybe just enough for a jacket or sweater. It is a solid bag.
This is one of the problems I had with this backpack.
There's too much room, but it's not easy to stuff things in there. There's no padding on the bottom of the bag, so you shouldn't put any gear down there.
Would be a good place for a jacket.
The space also creates the problem of the verge case sinking into that space when you have gear in it. Since the verge case is only attached to the side of the backpack with those 2 snap buttons.
Great review as always!
Could you lower the background music volume in your feature videos, pleas ?
Thanks, mate. Yeah, the music has different dynamics which is why it appears louder than usual. Next time I will turn it down slightly ;-)
Appreciate your work, thanks ! Would you consider reviewing "Duffel Pack" and "Fit Pack" by Aer ?
I'm currently not planing to review any further AER packs as I already reviewed two and there are still so many other bags that I need to check out. But the Duffel Pack is quite nice, you just need to be aware that you might need to change your packing style slightly. Check out Noba Tech and Chase Reeves, both have done a review of the Duffel Pack.
Please Review The Kelty Redwing 44L
Do you think i can use this for school? So space to books and pens and stuff like that
+Rasmus Pedersen it's been a long time since I have been in school, so I have no clue if you still carry as many books as I used to carry. But I think it should be fine for school. Although with the camera compartment it might be a little overkill 😉
Thanks for this review! What do you think of the price point of this bag based on the kickstarter campaign prices?
Is it worth this amount ie USD 189 (early bird)?
Hey Olivia,
I think USD 189.- for this bag with all the inserts is a very fair price. I would recon that even €250.- is quite reasonable for all the features
hey bo, thanks for replying. yeah I guess considering the inserts and design details, the price is pretty fair. that is one reason why I decided to back the project. most of these bags with inserts tend to have extra costs built in. I really like the laptop insert and the back padding! I have the North Face fuse box and it is starting to show signs of wear. Have been looking for alternatives for ages!
+Olivia Xu cool, let me know how you like the bag as soon as you get it
@Bo: would you recommend this pack for carry-on bag for traveling? Probably i will have to remove camera bag to fit stuff in. Thanks!
It's a great bag, but it's smaller in capacity compared to other carry on backpacks. So it really depends on your packing style and duration and destination (winter or summer clothing) of your travel.
@@Youknowthebo : Thank you for replay Bo! Really appreciated. I currently have Fairpoint 40 and i do not like this pack in general. I would like to buy something different , higher quality also.
So I am looking for carry-on backpack (max capacity which i can take for air traveling).
Current selection is: ATD1, AER Travel Pack 2, Heimplanet Transit Travel Pack, Alpha 31, Tom Bihn Aeronaut 30.
If YOU will have to pick one for 4-5 weeks traveling like for example in Asia what would it be :) Thx again for your help!
Absolutely terrible customer service. Terrible. Now for errant they have announced they have run out of bags. They have blocked people in the past. Don’t buy their products. They are cheats.
nice quick look. how many liters and is just urban or can you take it off trail?
+kidbach thanks, mate. Unfortunately I have no idea how many liters this bag is, and I wasn't able to find any information. But I would guesstimate around 25l.
It has a good padded back and a waistbelt, so you could be good to go on a hike, but bare in mind, that it is a flap down closing. So there are some gaps where water could get into the maincompartment if you get into some really heavy rain
Good estimate Bo - the KickStarter page is showing it as 25L expandable to 30L. Weight is showing at 2.5kg. Did you find it to be a bit heavy?
Cool. Yeah, at first it appeared heavy or as I said in the video "hefty", just because it is big and substantial in a way, which might explain why I thought it was heavier than my goruck for instance. But it is not heavier.
Do you think it could fit the large (SLOPE) ICU from FStop?
+Juan C M I don't know, Juan. Unfortunately I don't have the fstop ICU to test it out
Bo Ismono Tx Bo, I would see if once out in the market somebody is coming back with the same concern and maybe a response!
So... I've pledged for this on Kickstarter, but wary that I might cancel it (giving myself some time to think about it!). How would you say it compares to the Aer Duffel Pack for daily work/gym use?
+Marcus Chan both are completely different beasts. The Boundary is more versatile. If I had to choose between the two I would go with the Boundary
Thanks for the advice! I guess I'll keep the Kickstarter (it's being funded at the end of this month and estimated delivery is December... which means I'll only probably get it next year!).
+Marcus Chan no problem 😉 let me know how you like the bag as soon as you have received it
Finally received the Boundary yesterday (the black version) after a bit of shipping problems from their end (lots of unhappy backers). Also have the AER Duffel Pack and have been using that for the past few months. Initial thoughts are that you're right - completely different, but I think I'll still stick to the AER as my daily commute pack for gym/work but I'll still try the Boundary out for a week or 2. The AER seems like it has more compartments/pockets on the side and also more space in the "work space" area for extra documents etc (the divider between the work and gym side is soft, so it works as shared space depending on which side is more full.
The boundary is still a very sexy bag, so I think once I get used to it, I'll probably be switching between the AER and the Boundary a lot depending on my mood.
Nice, how have you been liking the Boundary so far?
Hi . Could you make a review for joey koala backpack. There are not many review about it online . Thanks
+Bernard Teoh hey Bernard. I would love to check it out. Have you taken a look at chase reeves channel? I think he might have reviewed it already
Bo Ismono
I have watched it a few times .
Thanks for the info
Great review Bo! Do you feel you could fit a 15.9" Laptop in the laptop compartment?
+Ty Criner thanks Ty. 15,9" is quite an odd screen resolution. Unfortunately I have no computer to test it out. I use the 15" MacBook pro. And that one fits well
Thanks for the reply Bo. I did find out it will accommodate a 15.9 laptop. Commonly a 15.9" laptop is a gaming laptop size :) Never the less great review and I'm super excited to receive my Prima System in December...
+Ty Criner cool. Let me know how you like it as soon as you have it
Hey Bo, found your channel recently and have been on a slight binge. Do you think you will be doing an indepth review of the Boundary? I've been eyeing the bag for a bit, but not sure since it is made by a still relatively new company and it's a bit pricier than what I am used to. Looking forward to your other videos.
I hope you get around to doing way more bags though. I've been going around watching others and I like your style and the way you present the bag the best by far.
Thank you very much. I'm happy to hear that you like my videos. Really appreciate it.
I don't have the final version of the Boundary, but from what I have heard, they actually addressed some of my issues and improved the bag. If you think quality is an issue, then I can reassure you. The build quality is very good. And the features are great as well. The pouch is expandable but I'm not sure if the dividers extend in the final version. But I doubt it
Oh sorry, I mixed two questions. The divider part was actually an answer to someone else. Sorry about that 😉
Bo Ismono Thanks for the quick response! That's good to hear. In your opinion how was the verge case in day to day use? Did it get in the way a lot or was it worth carrying around?
Do you mean carrying the Verge by itself? I always left the verge inside if I needed it. I never carried it by itself. The verge is pretty cool, the only downside is that items can be lost underneath it in the main compartment. especially small items are hard to find if they are underneath it in the maincompartment.
Yea, I meant leaving the verge inside the backpack. Seems like it would get in the way of larger items and have things get lost underneath/hard to grab from the bottom. Thanks for the replies!
Hi there Bo Ismono, I love your videos, but I've always wondered how you get all these items so early, or at all. When I try to buy them they're always on kickstarter, so do you just email the "Producer" for the product to conduct a review? - Fut
+Fut Bol thank you very much. Because of my subscribers and my friends at Carryology I can sometimes get a hold of a pre production unit to give them some feedback.
I see. Thank you.
+Fut Bol you're very welcome
Can the dividers in the camera bag be adjusted or removed?
+Edward Lee yes they can
What is the style of this backpack
I love the colour
+alexander peckham 😉
How do you comment on the new Shift pack on kickstarter?
+cykac04 I haven't seen it yet. I will Google it 😉
Will this fit a 6D with battery grip +24-70 and a 70-200?
Hey Ralph,
I have a mirrorless camera so I can't 100% confirm this. But just from my memory (I used to have a Nikon d7000 with battery grip and the 24-70mm f2.8) I would assume that your 6d with those two big lenses will fit. But I would recommend to contact boundary directly and ask them about it.
I doubt it. I use Sony A7ii with 55 1.8 and 85 1.8 and it's very tight. There's certainly no more room for anything else.
How many liters is this bag?
How is this compared to the PRVKE 31? (www.kickstarter.com/projects/wandrd/prvke-21-the-best-bag-for-everyday-carry-and-camer )
Any suggestion?
+Nayno it's 25 to 30 liters. I haven't tested or seen the prvke first hand yet, so I can't compare them unfortunately
Bo Ismono thank you! Are u interested in the PRVKE? Will you try it in the near future?! :D thanks again
+Nayno yes, I'm very interested in it, but I haven't had the chance yet, and there are a lot of other bags still waiting to be reviewed
Hey Bo,
thank you for the great review. I just found the Boundary and it looks really promising! After your review I just have one more question. How much does the backpack "deflate" when you don't put much gear in it (and obviously leave the camera bag out) . Is it stiff enough to keep its overall appearance or does it collapse? Because I hate when a backpack looks good when you stuff it full but take out some things and it looks like you are carrying a garbage bag.
Looking forward to your reply!
+tintim hey. It's rather stiff when empty. I feel that it still looks pretty good when empty
That sounds awesome! Just was I was looking for. Will have to pull the trigger on this one then! :D
Thank you for the quick answer Bo! Very much appreciated! Und grüß mir Hamburg ;)
Cool, let me know if you have more questions. And please let me know when you have the bag and how you like it. Gruß zurück ;-)
Bo Ismono sure will let you know.. It's gonna take until December though :( But I guess it's an early Christmas present for me then :D
+tintim yeah, that's the "flaw" of Kickstarters, you always have to wait quite some time. I hope you will get it soon.
Hi Bo, how did you feel about the camera access in terms of security? Just wandering if it's a risk or not in crowded situations.
Hey Matt,
Since there are basically two flaps to close the camera compartment when inside the main bag, it should be fairly safe
Thanks Bo! I'm kind of at the stage of trying to argue myself out of buying one... Very, very tempting.
+Matt White cool. Just let me know if you have any further questions.
Some problem I had with accessing the camera through the side:
The insert sinks in as you put gear in. Since it's only attached to the bag through 2 snap buttons. This makes the opening of the bag not 100% aligned with the opening of the insert. So you end up with a smaller access opening.
The insert's door is attached to the backpack's side access door. Which means your gear has a chance of falling out of the verge case to the main compartment.
Thanks for answering the question, Steve. I think your experience with the bag should answer a lot of the questions.
I know this is abit off topic but what packing cubes do you use? I'd love to get my hands on them but can't seem to find them
Hey Sebastian,
I use Goruck shadow pockets, which are now called Field pockets simple XL, and packing cubes from Muji. Both of them are quite pricey though. Since Packing cubes aren't submitted to a lot of abuse, you could just go for cheaper ones on Amazon though.
Thanks Bo! I went and binge watched a bunch of your videos last night lol. Do you know where else I could find the Goruck Field Pocket Simple XL? I looked on their site but all I could find were these: i.gyazo.com/bf168be8df3d4b5b733f2440400b7dad.png
Oh, they updated their site. seems like they don't sell them anymore :-( That sucks. Sorry, Sebastian
That's okay thank you anyways! I'll try and find a nice alternative :P
Please let me know, what packing cube end up getting ;-)
Can you fit a hydroflask in the water bottle pocket
+Sean Lee not sure. I don't have the hydroflask to test it out unfortunately.
when I buy ???
Could a razer blade 14 fit inside the removable insert?
Good question. I don't have a 14" laptop to test it out. But at the moment I would assume that it does not fit into that insert
Bo Ismono thanks of the reply. I think i will still get it tho.
You're very welcome. Please let me know how you like the bag when you get it ;-)
I can fit my 2017 15inch MacBook Pro with insert in there.
Does the camera bag have dividers?
Yes, it does ;-)
Nice Review
+Timo Kvamme thanks, Timo
Hi Bo, thanks for your review. It seems that this bag fits my needs, since I need a daypack, that occasionally could carry a camera (Canon EOS 700D) and a lens. But I'm not sure about the size, it seems a little bulky. The specs on the site is claiming 53 cm for the height, but on the video, it seems little less (or you are very tall :) ).
Can you tell the real size of the bag?
Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english :-)
The bag itself isn't bulky. It's relatively similar with the PRVKE backpack. I think it's a good size. But there're other things I really hate about this bag though.
Thanks for your feedback. Can you tell me what do you hate about this bag?
simone cau I have a longer post in this video that explained all the reasons.
It’s also worth noting that Carryology deleted my review from their article “best camera bag” as “spam” , I think everyone should know that carryology obviously doesn’t welcome anything negative.
I don’t want to discredit Bo since he’s obviously very good at his job and bring neutral to every product he tests. But don’t associate Bo’s fairness to Carryology completely.
Thanks for answering Simone's question, Steve. And I did not know that they deleted your comment. Not sure what happened there, but I'm glad that you didn't connect that with me. I'm just a contributor and don't moderate on Carryology. And I really appreciate your support. Cheers, mate 😉 ✌️
how this compare to wandrd PRVKE ??? cheers
Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to review the Wandr yet.
This backpack is launched?
Not yet. I think the kickstarter is still running, but it has already been successfully funded.
how much is the backpack?
+JA Almaida it is a Kickstarter. Not sure how much they will be ones they retail normally. Just Google their website
What kind of watch do you have on?
That's a Steinhart Ocean one Titanium 500. On tuesday there will be an EDC video showing my watches ;-)
Awesome, thank you. Also, your videos are incredible! Thank you for the content.
+D M thanks. I'm glad that you enjoy my videos.
Sorry, mate. I'm postponing the EDC video to next week, so all the Q&A videos will be online this week. Stay tuned ;-)
Can we have daypack + camera bag for 17 inch laptop backpack 😭😭😭
I believe that 17 inch laptops are quite rare. The only backpack that I have reviewed that can fit a 17" laptop is the life behind bars Peloton.
This looks like it's built like a tank :O
Isn't it heavy? O.o
It's obviously heavier than let's say the PX Invisible, but you can just take out all of the modules if you want a lighter pack.
Yeah definitely, the px is for sure lighter. But do you know how heavy this is? O.o
Because it seems like it's 2/3 kg
It's 4.8 pounds !! I've just checked it on their kickstarter campaign
kneda01 oh so a little bit more than 2 kg. Thank you!
+Erik Valenzuela hey Erik. I just used my mechanical bag scale. And it is about 2,5kg
The bag seems good, but the company and the customer service suck. Problems after problems.
Man your channel is a bomb! Pure nuts! Like, subscribe, eternal friendship, whatever 😘
Thank you very much, Michele! And thanks for the sub!!! :-)
dope
Thanks! :-)
With so many magnets, aren't you worried about hard drives and credit cards?
Yeah, kinda. Magnets always worry me, but it might be my stigma growing up with floppy disks haha. I'm not sure how influenceable todays hardware is to magnets. I might need to talk to an engineer or physicist about that one day
youll need big large heavy earth magnets to maybe mess up a harddrive or creditcard strip.
+CoreXtion thanks for clearing this up. But one question : is the duration of exposure relevant? For instance, if I put a credit card next to the magnet of the bag every single day for about 8 hours(a work day) five days a week (storing a wallet in the bag whilst being at work) shouldnt that affect the magnetic strip at some point?
Camera design compartment is bad.
too loud music. don't know what to listen to