Hi Rob. Many thanks for your reply. Since I am in Europe (Sweden) the freight, tax and VAT would make a buy practically impossible to motivate, but thanks for the offer.
Looking forward to see first results with this tube. Might get it in the future, although not sure of 600mm or next one... I'm shooting now at 420mm ...
Except for a lot of mounts that 8.25" vixen dovetail bar is too short to fit in the mount's saddle, like mine. There is only 7.25" from the centers of the two end holes on the stock dovetail and the ADM Vixen/Losmandy saddle I have on my Atlas EQ-G is 7" long so it won't fit with the heads of the screws protruding. I've got two 11.75" bars coming to use on mine.
@@Robservatory Those screws are mainly used if you want to adjust out cone error, As a side effect they would stop it sliding out of the vixen clamp if it worked its way loose.
Dear Rob, congratulation on your new telescope. I've a query, if you could kindly answer. I posses a Virtuoso GTI mount, can I use this telescope with the virtuoso GTI mount? And would it be helpful for taking astrographs?
I don’t think it will work. You want an equatorial mount for astrophotography. You mount would be ok for the moon and planets though. Did it come with a scope?
@@Robservatory Actually I bought a Skywatcher Heritage 150P Virtuoso GTI version. It comes with a Heritage 150P flextube scope. I manage to capture orion nebula and adromeda galaxy with 30 sec exposer attaching my phone camera with an adapter. In 30 sec exposer, I found the tracker quite good. That's why this thought came to mind, if I could update the scope with Quattro 150P.
Great video Rob, exactly the telescope I am thinking of getting (with the HEQ5 Pro). Being a newbie I would like your suggestion on an issue I am facing regarding the camera. I own both a full sensor DSLR Canon EOS (6D) and one with an EPC-S sensor (70D). With the full size sensor it seems I will experience excatly (or very close) to the focal length of the telescope, whereas the EPS-C sensor, I have to multiply the focal length by about 1.6 to get true experienced focal length. It seems that e.g. the Orion nebula and Andromeda Galaxy require quite short focal length. I am considering getting an entry level ZWO camera like the 585MC and based on the true measurement of that sensor, I will experience a focal length way longer than the full format 6D. SO now I am like "by changing the sensor, the same scope can be used for a vriety of objects". So, my question is, what is your suggestion for telescope to get for my first steps in astrophotography and should I get the entry level ZWO camera? It may seem like I can get anything I like, but I dont drink and am divorced, so costs are way lower :D
In your situation I would recommend the William Optics Redcat 51 telescope and the ZWO AM3 mount. The Redcat can accommodate your full frame sensor with excellent results all the way to the corners. It will also work with your apsc camera and a smaller sensor astro camera. The 585MC Pro would be a perfect match as well.
@@Robservatory Very good advice. I did however want to reach further out (I have both a Canon 70D and Canon 6D with good optics out to 200 mm), and would like good shots of the Pacman nebula or Whirlpool Galaxy as examples. Am I reaching too far with limited knowledge (but technical mindset)?
@@hobbeeswe7472 To shoot small targets like those you need a very long focal length. I shot the Whirlpool at 2000mm with a 2.7x crop sensor and it turned out well. For the Pacman I shot at 4500mm with an APSC sensor. For small nebulae and galaxies you really want to be at 1500mm and up, otherwise you are doing a ton of cropping.
@@Robservatory Hi again Rob. I just went back to your video (6 months later) and rechecked it and I am amazed to note I got a WO Redcat 51/250 and the 585MC Pro a couple of months ago, to get an easy start high quality setup, just like recommended. I could NOT remember this is what you wrote, but that was PERFACT advice in retrospect, thank you. Now back looking at a SW Quattro to reach objects a bit further off and not go crazy in the expense. Do you recommend the quattro for focal lengths of 600-800 mm?
I love the quattros, they are great scopes! I have had the 150P for awhile and it is tremendous value. The Carbon Star 150 looks amazing in this category. I am selling my modified Q150P if you’re interested.
Hi Im looking at buying my very first scope, with Astrophotography in mind . I have nothing at all at this time. I see you posted this a year ago. So after using it for that long are you still happy with it ,or is there something other than that that you would buy now? Great review by the way, but all these numbers like 25mm and 2.4 or f4 or5 I don't have a clue .😢
Sorry, I thought I replied to your comment already but it looks like I missed it. I do still like this telescope but I have bought one that is much bigger and stopped using this for awhile. I have recently done a few upgrades and got is running again. There are a ton of new refractors on the market in this focal length, so to do it over again I would probably go with a 500mm refractor and skip the maintenance that comes with a newtonian.
Hello. I have a question. I am planning to buy it. But I am thinking about filters with mono cam. Can you use standart narrowband filters or it needed high speed ones. Because it's speed reach f3.45 when you use reducer/corrector.
Good question. You can use narrowband filters at f3.45, but you should make sure they are compatible. I use the Antlia 3nm Pro filters which work up to f3, they are fantastic. I did a video about them recently and I highly recommend them. They are a good match for this scope as well, I just finished my first image with it last night.
I haven't used it yet because I'm waiting on my new mount, but your comment has changed my mind and I will try it out ASAP. What didn't you like about it? I chose it because Kevin at Sky-Watcher really likes it for the Quattro newtonians.
@@Robservatory On mine I found that the SCA didn't expand evenly. This meant that once I had collimated perfectly, and then put laser back in but rotated in a different direction, the red dot was in a different position on the primary. The laser was collimated, it the first thing I checked.
Hi Rob. Many thanks for your reply. Since I am in Europe (Sweden) the freight, tax and VAT would make a buy practically impossible to motivate, but thanks for the offer.
Nice review! Those protruding screws are actually a security fixture to prevent tube slide by accident out of the mount saddle.
Looking forward to see first results with this tube. Might get it in the future, although not sure of 600mm or next one... I'm shooting now at 420mm ...
Good video, please let us know how it goes regarding collimation (given that it's a F/4), and how the coma corrector performs. Clear skies!
Thanks! Will definitely do a follow up once the new mount arrives. Clear skies!
Keep the “design flaw” bolts on it. It stops the tube from sliding out the mounts vixen clamp
Thanks! I realized that when my mount finally arrived a few month later.
Except for a lot of mounts that 8.25" vixen dovetail bar is too short to fit in the mount's saddle, like mine. There is only 7.25" from the centers of the two end holes on the stock dovetail and the ADM Vixen/Losmandy saddle I have on my Atlas EQ-G is 7" long so it won't fit with the heads of the screws protruding. I've got two 11.75" bars coming to use on mine.
@@Robservatory Those screws are mainly used if you want to adjust out cone error, As a side effect they would stop it sliding out of the vixen clamp if it worked its way loose.
excellent video, best video on youtube on the scope overview, nice simple and to the point, thanyou!
Thanks! I did another video about the scope recently.
In Europe, the focuser used is the same from the Quattro 8 and 10. Yours seems to have the focuser from the PDS series.
Interesting, I had no idea. Which one is better in your opinion?
@@Robservatory I only have experience with the PDS version. The Quattro ones look slightly improved.
What's the OTA like for holding collimation?
Dear Rob, congratulation on your new telescope. I've a query, if you could kindly answer. I posses a Virtuoso GTI mount, can I use this telescope with the virtuoso GTI mount? And would it be helpful for taking astrographs?
I don’t think it will work. You want an equatorial mount for astrophotography. You mount would be ok for the moon and planets though. Did it come with a scope?
@@Robservatory Actually I bought a Skywatcher Heritage 150P Virtuoso GTI version. It comes with a Heritage 150P flextube scope. I manage to capture orion nebula and adromeda galaxy with 30 sec exposer attaching my phone camera with an adapter. In 30 sec exposer, I found the tracker quite good. That's why this thought came to mind, if I could update the scope with Quattro 150P.
I don’t see this scope working on that mount, too big and heavy. You really want an equatorial mount for astrophotography.
@@Robservatory Well understood and thanks for your worthy suggestion. Clear Skies.
Great video Rob, exactly the telescope I am thinking of getting (with the HEQ5 Pro).
Being a newbie I would like your suggestion on an issue I am facing regarding the camera. I own both a full sensor DSLR Canon EOS (6D) and one with an EPC-S sensor (70D). With the full size sensor it seems I will experience excatly (or very close) to the focal length of the telescope, whereas the EPS-C sensor, I have to multiply the focal length by about 1.6 to get true experienced focal length. It seems that e.g. the Orion nebula and Andromeda Galaxy require quite short focal length. I am considering getting an entry level ZWO camera like the 585MC and based on the true measurement of that sensor, I will experience a focal length way longer than the full format 6D. SO now I am like "by changing the sensor, the same scope can be used for a vriety of objects".
So, my question is, what is your suggestion for telescope to get for my first steps in astrophotography and should I get the entry level ZWO camera?
It may seem like I can get anything I like, but I dont drink and am divorced, so costs are way lower :D
In your situation I would recommend the William Optics Redcat 51 telescope and the ZWO AM3 mount. The Redcat can accommodate your full frame sensor with excellent results all the way to the corners. It will also work with your apsc camera and a smaller sensor astro camera. The 585MC Pro would be a perfect match as well.
@@Robservatory Very good advice. I did however want to reach further out (I have both a Canon 70D and Canon 6D with good optics out to 200 mm), and would like good shots of the Pacman nebula or Whirlpool Galaxy as examples. Am I reaching too far with limited knowledge (but technical mindset)?
@@hobbeeswe7472 To shoot small targets like those you need a very long focal length. I shot the Whirlpool at 2000mm with a 2.7x crop sensor and it turned out well. For the Pacman I shot at 4500mm with an APSC sensor. For small nebulae and galaxies you really want to be at 1500mm and up, otherwise you are doing a ton of cropping.
@@Robservatory Hi again Rob. I just went back to your video (6 months later) and rechecked it and I am amazed to note I got a WO Redcat 51/250 and the 585MC Pro a couple of months ago, to get an easy start high quality setup, just like recommended. I could NOT remember this is what you wrote, but that was PERFACT advice in retrospect, thank you. Now back looking at a SW Quattro to reach objects a bit further off and not go crazy in the expense. Do you recommend the quattro for focal lengths of 600-800 mm?
I love the quattros, they are great scopes! I have had the 150P for awhile and it is tremendous value. The Carbon Star 150 looks amazing in this category. I am selling my modified Q150P if you’re interested.
F4 would be nice but i tuned my 130pds while the short nights was running. So think i will stay at F5😅✌️
Where did you buy the telescope? at astroshop the 250p does not come with a coma corrector, which by the way is almost the OTA price.
This is the 150P, not the 250P. The 150P Quattro comes with the coma corrector.
still waiting for videos of you using this scope, I am in a very similar vibe... I shoot with the Sharpstar 61 EDPH II and its 275mm FL
Hi Im looking at buying my very first scope, with Astrophotography in mind . I have nothing at all at this time. I see you posted this a year ago. So after using it for that long are you still happy with it ,or is there something other than that that you would buy now? Great review by the way, but all these numbers like 25mm and 2.4 or f4 or5 I don't have a clue .😢
Sorry, I thought I replied to your comment already but it looks like I missed it. I do still like this telescope but I have bought one that is much bigger and stopped using this for awhile. I have recently done a few upgrades and got is running again. There are a ton of new refractors on the market in this focal length, so to do it over again I would probably go with a 500mm refractor and skip the maintenance that comes with a newtonian.
@@Robservatory thank you
no link to Kevin video !!
Very cool videos. Nice work. 😃
Thank you!
Nice review Rob!
Thanks, Rouz! This was just the unboxing, I followed it up a year later with another review.
@@Robservatory Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work.
Have you donany visual observing with this scope yet?
Not yet. My mount is back ordered and I probably won’t see it until the end of September or early October.
Hello. I have a question. I am planning to buy it. But I am thinking about filters with mono cam.
Can you use standart narrowband filters or it needed high speed ones. Because it's speed reach f3.45 when you use reducer/corrector.
Good question. You can use narrowband filters at f3.45, but you should make sure they are compatible. I use the Antlia 3nm Pro filters which work up to f3, they are fantastic. I did a video about them recently and I highly recommend them. They are a good match for this scope as well, I just finished my first image with it last night.
@@Robservatory Can't wait to see it 🙂
Thanks for answer
@@Robservatory Show us that image!
How do you find the Hotech laser collimator? I've just returned mine..
I haven't used it yet because I'm waiting on my new mount, but your comment has changed my mind and I will try it out ASAP. What didn't you like about it? I chose it because Kevin at Sky-Watcher really likes it for the Quattro newtonians.
@@Robservatory On mine I found that the SCA didn't expand evenly. This meant that once I had collimated perfectly, and then put laser back in but rotated in a different direction, the red dot was in a different position on the primary. The laser was collimated, it the first thing I checked.
Very good!
Thanks!