Horseplay Lands Teacher in Trouble with Dept. of Ed
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Freedom of speech is a cherished Constitutional protection, framed in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Teaching is one of many forms of free speech and falls under the First Amendment's protections for the right to speech within their occupation. But the State of Minnesota disagrees and Leda Mox, a certified equine massage specialist, now faces the prospect of having to pay exorbitant fees unless her speech is approved by a government agency.
ij.org/case/minnesota-horse-teaching/
Leda loves horses, so much so that she has turned her passion into a business teaching others how to care for them through the practice of equine massage. Horses, much like any human, can benefit from massage by alleviating muscle pain, training for athletic events, or just to ease tension and relax. Leda is an expert in the subject and has a bachelor’s degree in equine science as well as being certified in equine massage since 1997, when she skipped her high school graduation to attend one of the only certification programs in the country at the time.
The Office of Higher Education doesn’t care about Leda’s credentials or her long history of success in the field. They are demanding Leda complete a thirty-page application, pay exorbitant fees up front, and then annually to maintain her license, and furnish the state with a great deal of information - most of which is completely inapplicable to her small business.
Leda, who has partnered with the Institute for Justice, has now filed a lawsuit against the state claiming a violation of her First Amendment rights and arguing the state has no right to demand their approval to freely speak on a subject which she is clearly an expert in.
Make politicians get licenses and make them take constitution classes make them get bonded! Time government officials are held accountable.
You would have to get rid of Qualified Immunity first. As government officials, they are covered. One of the main obstacles is that the people responsible for legislation QI away are also covered by it. They're not likely to work against their own self interests.
All government employees
@radlist I agree with you. Government over reach must stop! TERM limits need to be implemented as well!
@@don5062exactly! People may know about QI for cops, but I bet they don't know about QI for political people & judges, etc.
Best comment here. Make people running for office obtain a license that includes education classes AND testing them on the Constitution and the Rights of every American.
Make them do it every time they run for office to make sure it sinks in.
Also, make them take some "Continuing Education" type classes that go more in-depth on each Constitutional Right.
And Term Limits.
That’s our government. You can’t do anything or say anything unless you pay them a licensing fee every year. I call BS.
No, that's just Minnesota. A state that is run FULLY by Democrats who can't stand it when people have great ideas and can turn those great ideas into money without paying them their cut.
Minnesota Democrats (actually called the DFL which stands for Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party), operate much like the Mafia does. They want their cut off your intellectual ideas and hard work no matter what.
No these are the people that we elect who in turn appoint executive leadership who creates the policy which is approved by the elected officials. These individuals are our aunts, uncle's, grandparents, parents and neighbors...... Who we know and understand what their value systems are......
In other words, and you can quote me, "be careful what you ask for because you just may get it"
@@jeffalvich9434 Some of these people, that make the rules, we DON'T elect. They are called bureaucrats. Bureaucrats need to find purpose in their jobs. So they find something to mess Americans up irregardless of the rules complying with the US Constitution. It is also about control and dominance. The federal government is a prime example of this phenomenon.
"We see you're commenting about our licensing fees, but we also see you don't have a license to comment about our licensing fees. You now owe us $$$ for violating that." - Government, probably.
It's the Mother May I? model for society.
I nearly laughed out loud when I heard the curriculum would have to be approved. Approved for what? The state is gonna check her horse massage curriculum for misinformation? What capitol city Minnesotan bureaucrat is going to know? Hilarious.
What a bunch of clowns.
They'll get it straight from the horse's mouth on whether the technique is hurting them.
Education without accreditation is a scam, what this lady is doing is no better than some self-proclaimed guru offering pyramid power courses. She deserves to be shut down
@@nachobroryan8824There's neigh chance of that happening.
Please don't insult clowns.
@@chrismiller5198 you’re completely right, that is entirely unfair to clowns. Clowns contribute to the economy and bring kids and people joy by means of their work. My bad guys.
There's absolutely nothing that the government doesn't want to license and regulate. Why? Because they can create a cash flow bureaucracy from it. Anything they license and regulate generates fees. And jobs they can give to their cronies.
Because horse massage therapy is considered holistic medicine aka hogwash, aka scams.
She has no knowledge or certification and is making it up as she goes along and telling others as if it was fact.
Forcing her dumbass to get a license is intended to protect animals because idiots that listen to her might forego an actual vet to try her crap and risk the animal undue suffering.
She probably just certifies that students completed her course. The state wants a cut of the profits, and a way to ensure profits from anyone who does this in the future. Because it’s always about the money. Heaven forbid you do anything without the man stealing your time and money.
Scientology is allowed to charge its members for learning. Maybe she should just change the name of her business to the Church of Horse and explain that it is a non-sectarian adjunct religion.
It would probably be a secretariat church
@@woodsrdr You sir, win the internet for today. Well played.
The best career choice I ever made in my life was resigning from the MN Dept of Education thirty years ago. No regrets whatsoever.
They should probably clean up the mess in the normal human schools before going after people like her.
Absolutely!
Minnesota goverment, especially the Dept of Education, are ridiculous on their regulations. There was a guy that accidentally missed his renewal date for his engineering license. The guy got his stuff in, but a little late. Minnesota went after him because he mentioned that he was an architect during the short period of time that his license had lapsed. They are total A holes up in my home state.
@treeaddict The poor guys name is Chuck Mahrohn. The lawsuit is titled Strong Towns vs. State of Minnesota. The Minnesota board of engineer licensure really decided to escalate the problem rather than settle the issue easily. As a citizen, it was really infuriating to watch them go after a guy for a small issue and waist a whole lot of money to bully the guy. The board just seemed to have lost all sight of common sense. Also, I am not related to any of the parties. I am just a disgusted bystander.
It’s about control and the power of bureaucracy.
The purpose is to create a system based upon social connections and economic influences facilitating a paper pedigree system facilitating hierarchical social structures facilitating hegemonic control systems.
Unqualified connected people will be able to control things that they don’t understand.
Qualified unconnected people can disqualified and blacklisted in order facilitate exploitation and control.
It’s essentially a pay to play racketeering scheme that uses abuse of power and authority bureaucratic bureaucracies as a cudgel facilitating “protection insurance racketeering”...
The ability to create bureaucratic structures is the new aristocratic system.
@@lprice5583 These Boards that govern many types of businesses that are regulated in Minnesota are nothing more than a crime syndicate.
Hell, Minnesota is run fully by Minnesota Democrats, called the DFL, Democratic-Farmer-Labor, and they are nothing more than the Mafia, an organized Crime Syndicate.
@@quitequiet5281Very well said. Joseph Conrad smiles.
It's a very good thing our gov never interferes in an authoritarian, dictatorial, ridiculous manner!
I love the Institute of Justice's work. I hope you win this case. Government over reach is a seriously problem in America.
The Institute for Justice is in my will.
leave it to the government to to screw up a good deal
More and more ppl are waking up to the police state we find ourselves in now. Keep up the good work.
Well ... except almost every rule, regulation, law comes about because someone's been an idiot. Some discretion needs to be applied though. She's not doing any harm, leave her alone.
@@veramae4098for sure and then add politics/jealousy
@@veramae4098 Most rules and regulations just become an excuse to raise revenue. "The object of all despotism is revenue." -- Thomas Paine
@@unbreakable7633 They are also showing their non existent authority too.
More and more people are waking up when the police are knocking on their door. There are still a lot of people who don't care as long as it's not happening to them.
Massage therapy is an EXCELLENT, cost-effective way for pet lovers to take care of their animals. I give my dog a light massage along his back (and his hips) 3-4 days a week for like 5-10 mins each time… and I swear it gives my little buddy so much relief!!
Great. Massaging your own animal is one thing, doing it for others for a fee is another.
Suddenly for the first time in my life I want to go take a horse massage course.
This governmental overreach is beyond infuriating, and I wish Lita the very best.
Dont give up lady, give em hell! We're with you!
I have zero belief in horse message, but I 100% believe she should be able to teach horse message.
I think she should be able to teach horse massage too, but she mentions she's selling a certification, and I question what that certification is backed-up by.
@@temushin You seem to have a hard on for this certification bit. Do you not realize that EVERY certification starts somewhere.
@@ShainAndrews I don't know exactly what the regulations are behind creating certifications, but I do know that organizations that offer certifications and make claims about what that certification does for you that aren't true tend to come under fire. I can't imagine that the state has a problem with the teaching itself, and since she mentioned certification I'm wondering if that's related to their actual objection.
I don’t understand why you’d think massage is good for humans, but not for other animals. That makes absolutely no sense. Even my dog loves shoulder massages.
@@BeaulieuToddpeople like this guy can’t think too far down the road. They’re the same ones who can’t comprehend chiropractic. Your nervous system runs through your spine so if your skeletal system is out of alignment then you’re going to have pain. Not very hard to understand.
I don’t understand how the state found out about this in the first place. Do they go and just seek out innocent people trying to help others?
Yes.
Department of education like any other state department exists to ensure each and every citizen is dependant on the state.
Thats most businessmen are college dropouts.
They are very good and fast when they go against the people, but the slowest, blindest and stupidest when something would be for the people.
@@mamabearthrives7815 the government is probably making the argument that horse massage is a veterinary practice, and are trying to regulate it that way, massaging a human already requires licensee and training so the idea isn't completely unfounded even if I don't agree with it,
To be clear the government's right to decide who can teach people things and under what circumstances (at least in a professional context) is fairly solidified, clearly they have the ability to decide who can teach children math I don't see why they can't decide who can teach adults anything else (to be clear though I would love to see a ruling by the Court that decides the government has no rights decide who can teach people things, and as such basically throw out all requirements for teachers as unconditional... Mostly cuz it'd be funny to see someone who failed high School argue it's illegal to keep them from teaching high school students the very concept is amusing)
Sounds like someone had an axe to grind with this lady.... Jealousy???? Who knows? Maybe it'll come out now that IJ is involved....
Less government is needed in so many facets of life!
Amen!
Spot on!
But it is clearly needed in many, many other facets of our lives. Sorting that out is the challenge, not a blanket "less government" or "small government" approach.
@virginiamoss7045 In my opinion, less government is needed in our daily lives! Do you know that driving the codes are written so that within 5 miles, you'll be in violation of something 🤔! The same "rules of the road" that we will be cited for the cops violate all the time! There are so many laws that are outdated but still on the books. The government is always looking for some way to generate revenue!
@@Ms.Rummy57 Some years ago the state of Georgia appropriated money to fund a complete and thorough combing through of the entire Georgia code and identify outdated and unreasonable rules, regulations, and laws. Then the legislature eliminated them all. One was about disallowing goats to graze on the capital building grounds in Atlanta.
Maybe the Dept. Of Ed should investigate and report on the number of teachers assaulted in Minnesota schools. They could rank the schools from least violent to most violent. BUT THEY WON'T.
Governments has to involve themselves into everything. They need to have their cut of everything.
That's how they make money to pay our bills. If they could tax the filthy rich it could take away that incentive to pummel the poor....
Make sure to share this video with the Minnesota Department of Education so they know how much support these people have.
The primary purpose of the Department of Education is to provide a sinecure for career bureaucrats.
You mean how little!
Uncle Sam needs to steal from anyone trying to make a living and doing good so they can just send it overseas, like usual.
That's because Republicans won't vote to support or allow money to be spent on anything that betters Americans lives.....
Minnesota... well there's your answer, right there. Used to be a wonderful state, days gone by.
Politicians should be required to have actual work experience in fields other than government. Right now our country is under the control of people who only know how to control and manipulate people and not much else.
I am fully licenced to have this thought, I paid $10.000 for my licence so I am covered. Now all I have to do is pay a further $20.000 for the licence that allows me to share it as in turn my thoughts into verbal snippets of sharable information. I must of course pay the fees for every thought I have and wish to share. Love you, Joe.
Thank you Institute of Justice for helping ordinary people fight a totally out of control bureaucracy that sees their role as harassing citizens instead of helping them. What happened to common sense?
The right to massage horses and teach others shall Not be infringed! ... I'd vote for it! 🐴
Keep up the great work IJ. I haven't watched one of your cases where I thought the govt was in the right. They can't seem to understand that.
Sounds more like bias on your part...why should they even notice, let alone "understand" it? I'm not saying you're wrong, but your words say much more about yourself than about anything else...and you should think a bit about your wording, especially when you're being as vague as you are here.
If I were a citizen of Minnesota, I would have to ask what benefit is it to me to have my government spend its time (my taxpayer dollars) to investigate this matter or attempt to regulate it. I think the conclusion I would come to is that there is no public benefit. Moreover, it is detrimental to the public’s benefit because it takes away resources from areas where the need for regulation is legitimate. Whoever sent that letter to this individual should be either fired or reassigned to a position filling potholes or fired. Probably fired.
If you get sued and found unconditional in your laws, you should never be allowed to work in ANY public service again.
It doesn’t sound like the teaching is the issue. It is the issuing a certification.
She should drop the certification, that seems unnecessary.
It is a service provided so that the practice lasts beyond her. There are Bob Ross certified instructors for painting. Does a non-Bob Ross certified instructor teach worse? Probably not but at least they went through some instruction and a customer could confirm their credentialsand have a certain set of expectations.
She has a first amendment right to issue certifications as well. It's a piece of paper that says you completed the class to her satisfaction. That's pure speech.
@@jeffreyredfern2260 Would you let a veterinarian take care of your horse if their veterinary degree came from an unaccredited school? Leda teaches a course that, by her own admission, has an impact on the health of a living creature. What happens if someone with her equine massage certification ends up injuring horses, and was in fact only hired to care for horses based on her certification? This is not to suggest that ANY regulation would be appropriate, but I can certainly see how the public might have some interest in ensuring that the training in this case is safe and effective. (By contrast, the Bob Ross certification isn’t something that could cause significant or objective harm to any living being, so there is no significant public interest.)
That is beautiful! It works for animals as much as it does for humans. Government has no business butting their nose in her business of teaching on her land! Government over reach! Thank you IJ for helping her! God bless the IJ!
On the curriculum I would use as many words that they will have to use a dictionary to try and figure it out. Fight the good fight
I had no idea that the talking horse Ed had an entire department in government. He really was a clever horse, of course.
Minnesota state government is crazy to deal with on every level. I live it.
Good for you in taking this case!
Medicinal horse petting sounds like nonsense but it makes more sense than government overreach.
Equine massage is taught in colleges. The colleges don't want the competition.
@@chrishnahNow I understand
@@chrishnah oh so it's for sure nonsense. Certified approved university accredited™ nonsense. But taxed horse petting liscence is bigger nonsense.
And the trolls accuse IFJ of only taking high profile slam dunk cases where the exposure leads to more donations.
This is insane. Govts are totally out of control with regulation, licensing and control.
Ironically I know several folks, including myself, who do different agricultural teaching on farm, including teaching people how to butcher their own livestock, as a way in part, to get around onerous meat processing regulations.
Govt needs to stay the hell out of our business!!!
Set up an LLC, get the license, then use EVERYTHING you can think of as tax deductions...
Your land, barn,horse feed, hay, shoeing, gas, car, truck, trailers, lunch, dinners out, trips, lodging, brushes, saddles, the list is endless on how you can stick it back to the government
I bet the government argues they are not limiting her speech because she can still teach it after she provides all the licensing needs. Government licensing on pretty much most things is the problem.
$$$$$$
This lady needs a RUclips channel.
I've watched Nate trim cow hooves countless times; I know people would watch a horse getting massaged.
Thank you IJ.
What would we do without bureaucracy?
We would actually get stuff done
@@RailBuffRob Or would we??? 🤔
licenses and bureaucracy IS important.
without it, buildings would fall, patients would die due to unlicenced doctors not following standards etc.
If she just cut the certification part, they would probably leave her alone
You tell it like it is I.J. and I love you for it. ❤
The government does NOT have jurisdiction over a person's own knowlege and abilities.!
Go get ‘em!
"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help"
The "total state" is our future.
I hope y'all win! Freedom of speech and freedom of expression for all!
As a certified chicken massage therapist, we Fowl-handers stand by you.
I wonder if there has been any time in our history when people were truly free...
So in effect, also horse clubs are not able to freely share information and skills? Gov't needs to step away from regulating everything.
It’s a club not a school, do you think the kkk can just start a school teaching them their ways unchecked?
NEVER expect much from Minnehaha!
Be careful who you vote for, Minnesotans. You just might get what you voted for.
No one should be voting in the first place. Just a form of slavery.
Ah yes it's the age-old take from you something you have the right to have and then sell it back to you with a license or a permit!?.
As long as the horse doesnt complain. Government stay out!
Class liberal holier than thou overreach. IJ - sock it to ‘em, and I’m there ! Please keep us updated.
Classic idiotic comment. You clearly know nothing about the political leanings of MN government. Hint: Liberal they are not.
I'm sure you'll find a few Republicans in the mix too!!!
Thanks for taking on this case 🙌
What I want to know is if her "horse massage" is backed with a study or if she pulled it from under the tail of a horse. If there is no science to it she is scamming people.
I worry they'd block that curriculum. The truth is a humans ability to massage a horse is pretty limited if you know how massage is supposed to work. Could there be marginal benefits at the poor level of massage a human could perform on a horse? Maybe. But if they were to panel some human massage therapists their standards of effectiveness may be so high that they may classify the material as bunk. But that's not government's job.
The issue is not the efficacy but the "certification" for example the local community college here offers an equine massage certication. A lot of these regulatory issues are about guilds wanting to cut out the competition.
There are many types of (even human) message. Not all message techniques are like Rolfing, that employs very strong forces. I'm guessing you know as little about horse message as does the government of MN.
@@avsystem3142 Exactly. So they could easily convince themselves it's their job to police it.
Keep uP the great work Leda!
Can we get more details on the Certification she gives out at the end of the course ?
I would counter claim there is no one in the government that is trained and licensed in this form of treatment so therefore there is no one in the government that can say whether i need a license or not .
Evil Minnesota govt.
I despise the government in our state of Minnesota!
I think you're going to get a lot of leverage on the point that no one in the government is actually qualified in horse massage, so what qualifies them to approve a curriculum. The fact that she owns the horses helps me see this more clearly as a 1A case. Otherwise, i thought it was fuzzy, but then I thought about the prevalence of all those DYI videos. Then we get into the laws regulating small business. Anyway, thanks for standing with all of us. Someone has to.
I knew a lady who taught doctors how to do acupuncture, who was not allowed to do acupuncture because she was not a doctor...
Thousands of dollars in fees…there’s your problem.
If you were a bureaucrat wanting power and turf, then it would make sense.
I generally massage rather than pet dogs and cats and they love it. I have a friend who I visit almost daily because he's in neighborhood and physically disabled (very bad rheumatoid arthritis so I'll do small chores for him and open things for him) and his cat will run to sit in my lap for a massage whenever I sit down at his place. The funny thing is once he tried to do a contest to see who the cat loved more as in who will the cat go to when I sat down. All I'm gonna say is massages trumps pettings everytime.
she should drop the certification part, thats probably what they didnt like.
cant just hand out certificates
Stupid regulations by people who don’t have anything better to do!
there's such a thing as transporting thoroughbred race horses nationwide to race tracks.
it wouldn't surprise me if someday they require the drivers to have a special endorsement to transport live horses.
I'd rather drive taxi in Carson City, Nv
but thoroughbreds don't try to tell you how to drive.
they're just glad to be going somewhere with 14 other thoroughbreds
Wait until the state finds out she teaches people how to muck stalls... I'm sure they will want a piece of that pie too.
Well we want licensed professionals, so that is beneficial. Not sure why she would have to pay thousands.
What bothers me is there likely not being any regulatory guidance for how to do her job, however they are still trying to regulate it.
There is regulatory guidance: it's called the Veterinary Board. And to that point, I actually know and have worked with equine vets who were certified in massage therapy for horses (as well as acupuncture, even-- yes, that's offered for horses as well). But where did those veterinarians get their certification? From programs that were licensed to provide them, having run their curriculum through the necessary hoops to prove that it was in line with our knowledge of equine physiology and science.
This video has misled a lot of people by making them think she is singularly qualified to teach a unique, revolutionary new science. It's not that new. It's not even that revolutionary. Every equine vet I've ever worked with has added these additional skills to their repertoire because it allows them to offer a wider range of services to their clients.
@@lanon3277 I don't think anyone thought horse massage was new. The reason one would want a regulatory structure for this is precisely because this video describes an attempt to regulate the teaching, but not the content of what's being taught.
Some other comments indicate a number of people who do think it's brand new, so apologies for lumping you in.
The regulatory structure that exists (that is being discussed in this video) is purely for certification, not for the act of teaching itself. To put it simply, if Leda Mox wanted to teach equine massage therapy classes, she could, just like you can teach horseback riding or underwater basket-weaving classes.
The issue is that she is offering it as a Certification Program. And the practice of offering a certification program is what the Dept. of Education is regulating. This is regulated because they're also regulating the content-- both in terms of how much is covered as well as what is covered. That's why they ask for her to design and submit a curriculum.
Not mentioned in this video is the fact that the Dept of Education also requires proof that the teacher is qualified to teach before they're allowed to be licensed to teach a Certification Program (i.e has a relevant degree, have a relevant certification from another certified program, or hold a certain number of years of experience in the field).
There are other minimums that you're required to meet, but it basically sets a minimum bar for offering a certification program. Not for teaching on its own.
Anyone can teach equine massage therapy. Leda Mox can certainly teach it without being licensed.
But for her classes to be worth anything in a professional context (such as to a veterinarian, rather than a horse owner who just wants to apply it to their own horses), it must be a certification program. And for her to teach a certification program, she must be licensed.
So to be clear, the teaching itself is not what's being regulated, but rather the act of offering a certification program.
I hope you guys win
Big daddy government can't even run their own house so they have to feel better by running your house. I wish they would just mind their own business and stay out of our everyday lives.
Robert, you need to love your country more than you hate your government.... You are part of the government. If you don't like it then run for government and change it or stop complaining!
No flippin thanks, I hate politicians so why would I want to become something i hate & i don't see how not liking the government has anything to do with loving my country. politicians are just like hookers they give great lip service & cost a lot @@bwenluck9812
They see anyone making money and they come in and want some of your hard earned money !! Period !
Where the government is concerned, to find the truth Follow the money.
The right to pursue happiness
Land of the fees, home of the caged.
hope IJ wins that case, no person should be disallowed to teach anything in any capacity.
The government is here to help us.
I attended (human) massage school, and it is a form of medical care.
You do need to know how not to harm your patient - or yourself - so I can see them wanting to prevent harm to humans or horses.
If a human damaged their horse and sued, she would probably not have any legal protection. Or if the horse harmed the human during the massage and the human sued, same thing. Or if a human injured themself because they used poor posture or something, ditto. I can see lots of ways this could go badly.
That said, I’m very unsure the state is taking the correct measures to achieve the goal of safety for all concerned.
Licencing unchained, ....
....one might think these minions of darkness must lie awake at night trying to come up with some plot to destroy something good, but most likely they simply receive instruction from their hellish masters....
Did I miss something, ? To me there seems to be some underline problem that someone does NOT line, someone who does not like her, but is enjoying the Pleasure to use THIER use of creating a Problem for her. Did this start with a displeased student., who created this problem? All it takes is some Arrogant, narcissus person , perhaps friend of the family, relative, wanting to create this problem, and because of their position at work, others comply without realizing, or seeing the whole picture. COMPLY is what their job is to make others comply, under certain law. They do not need to KNOW anything about HORSES, do not have to visit the cite , speak to the owner, take a class to find out.
"Did I miss something?"
Yes. You missed the part where she wants to offer a certification program. Not just teach horse massage therapy classes, but offer a certification program for horse massage therapy. The video did a great job of glossing over that by characterizing it as a free speech issue and making it appear like the Dept of Education is being unfair and unreasonable, but the Dept. is actually just holding her to the exact same standards as anyone else who wants to offer a certification program. She is more than welcome to teach equine massage therapy and be paid for it, just like she's more than welcome to offer horseback riding classes and be paid for it.
Minnesota? Not surprised.
I've been to minnesota. This doesn't surprise me.
Here's the part that I have a problem with: As I understand the video, when a student completes the course, they get a certification. Is that a State endorsed certification? Does that certification allow that person to then practice horse massage for money? Is it necessary to have a certification in order to hold yourself out as a horse masseuse?
What I'm getting at is this: If I want to be a cosmetologist or an electrician, or perform therapeutic massage on people, I need such a certificate and to get that certificate I need to pass a course from someone who is authorized to do so. If the State has such requirements for horse massage, then it is simply being consistent, and protecting the public from hiring someone who claims to be a horse masseuse without having the proper training.
On the other hand, if there is no State endorsed requirement and this gal is simply printing up certificates saying that her students have successfully passed her course, then the State agency is acting beyond its authority.
No, it's not a state endorsed certification. It's a piece of paper that says you satisfactorily completed her curriculum. The state does not license horse massage at all. The regulations at issue apply to anyone who teaches anything vocational.
The tail wags the dog in Minnesota.
The government at it's best!
Don't nearly all states have a requirement for a license and for at least a university bachelor's degree for teaching? And if the assertion of this video that teaching is freedom of speech, wouldn't all licensing and degree requirements be struck down for all teachers? And what are the consequences if medical schools are no longer require their teachers to have degrees and licenses or any kind? Will we have snake oil salesmen teaching medicine again? If medicine is the determinant factor on whether a license is required, and if 'therapy', in this case massage therapy, is medicine, then doesn't that mean that she can teach horse massage (not medical) without a license, but not horse massage therapy (medical)?
Nope. Teaching "licenses" are only required to teach in public schools. That's just the government setting its own standards for its own employees. You don't need a license to teach in private schools, and you certainly don't need a license to teach one-off classes to people who want to learn.
you can hop around it by geting APPRENTICESHIP accreditation from the labor deparment in minasoda as part of equresterian care.
I'll play Government Advocate on this one. Leda is probably advertising this course, soliciting for paying customers. So this is a business. Any business needs a business license and pay business taxes. She offers a Certificate of completion for this course she teaches. For that certificate to mean anything, it has to be comparable to some standard. Lastly, because this is a Course, that has Classes, Charges a Tuition, and Graduates Students with a Certificate, that makes this a school. Walks like a duck, quacks likes a duck, it's a duck! Even dog grooming schools are licensed in Minnesota and other states. Solution: Get rid of the Certificate of Course Completion. Quit calling it a "Course". It will still be a business, but it will no longer be a school.