Great. Familiar with Boss, Rockman, Neunaber and G-System. It can't hurt to add this pedal to my collection. sounds great and different than the ones I have.
I love this thing, some settings reminds me of the Eventide Harmonizers and Flangers of the late 70s But those were very expensive studio effects back then i think $1,500 in 1979, this sounds as good
I love how when you arpeggio are the chords, the glisten of the chorus makes it sound like there are complex echos going on as well. Then you stop playing…NO ECHoS!
That 80s clean section is very close to some 80s Dann Huff tones. Good to hear that this has some of the TC 80s rack unit magic in a pedal format. I'm interested in picking up the reissue. This would get into super 80s territory with the DBX 160 compressor!
Love the SCF and I have an original. The flanger part of it is particularly good. I know that everyone wants it for the Eric Johnson and JP chorus sounds, but I think the Flanger on it is the real standout for clean flanger tones. Put it on flanger mode and then a Roland Space Echo or Volante after it and you've got an amazing 80's Post-Punk/Goth Rock guitar sound similar to The Cure, The Mission, Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Cult - She Sells Sanctuary. I'm glad to see you got an original one. It would be great to see a video comparison of this against the current reissue from the unspeakable company that bought TC electronic. I think your clean Rockman sound with the SCF and H3000 micro pitch detune plus a dual delay with the TC 2290 sound playing the same Heaven Above main melody riff would sound fantastic layered underneath the main distorted riff!
I think the whole post-punk era features some of the most effective and tasteful uses of modulation effects in general. Having said that, time to crank up some Cult!
Some people like it but the original is better which is often the case with most things. The noise floor on all of the original tc electronic equipment has always been exemplary.@@matttaylor1449
I never get tired to mention, that this is one rare kind of unit, which has an input impedance to line drive an old, passive Fender Rhodes piano cleanly & with relatively low noise. Generally an adjustable preamp is a plus on an effect pedal, even when those preamps are always very different to each other.. Dommage: The SCF is making stereo by flipping the phase in the other output like many other "guitar"stereo chorus pedals - hence no mono compatibility in direct studio recordings. Don´t know about two mic´ed speaker cabinets..(*) But used straight in mono the chorus/p.m./flanger sounds quite well, too. (*) In studio, one could "delay" one output for about 30ms with one 100% wet single delay line (like a fake double tracker), and preserve modulation, but then you´ll have to deal - in mono - with those narrowed double attacks sitting upon each other all the time. Sometimes that might turn out ok - or maybe even great - though. You´ll always have to check out & decide... A "MONO" button in reach is a valuable thing to have in the studio.
Great stuff as always Leon! A friend of mine owns the reissue model of this pedal and it's really tough not to clip the input stage, even with the input gain set to 0. Doesn't matter if in the loop or into the amp. 9V just doesn't give you the same headroom as 110V/230V/240V i assume. Something to keep in mind for the folks that got their GAS activated by this video haha
What’s running into it? I’ve had the reissue for a few months now and find the opposite to be true in my experience (it never clips). The one exception being when my fuzz face volume and gain is on 10 and even then it doesn’t really happen. Just saying, maybe a faulty unit or something to look into?
@@adrianr2312 interesting. as stated i tried multiple positions on my friends board (not my unit). The only way to not make it clip was an EQ in front with a -12dB level reduction. Still sounded like it should though, so pretty sure its fine. Especially because i experienced similar things with lots of Chorus-pedals. Even the Chorus-Toneprint on the Flashback Delay i own clips, whereas everything else runs smoothly (except the footswitch, that is)
My live rig in 1987 was a couple of Marshall Jubilee Heads,the TC Chorus,and a Rockman stereo echo…I still have the TC and Rockman as well as one of the amps to this day..I believe my TC Chorus is from 1985….It’s truly a unique pedal,like you said,nothing else sounds like it….
@@LeonTodd Ah yes, the Rockman Stereo Echo is one of my all time favorites! Honestly, aside from the distortion generator/preamp, I like all of the Rockman stuff very much. I was shocked to see exactly how high the prices had climbed on that stuff even as far back as 2001...Wow!
That thing sounded heavenly. Absolutely Nirvana 😂♥️🤘 That strat is just killer. I would stick a yellow Custom 5 in the bridge maybe. 😂 or a DiMarzio tone zone or sure D in yellow of course. 😂♥️🤘 Great video sir Great tones and great playing as usual. ♥️🤘 Be safe and well my friend. ♥️🤘♥️
@@LeonTodd haha duly noted! Have you got a chance to play with the Somersault? Sounds so rich and lush but that tricerchorus is just wow! Thanks for the reply!
@@LeonTodd I’m running a mono rig and feel I can’t fully utilize the tricerachorus. I’ve tried dialling in different settings and can’t seem to get the micropitch effect. Should I be looking for more of a mono style pedal for this effect (if even possible)? Or do you have any settings available I can try out? Thanks again!
The word that popped into my head from the first clean chord you struck was "fidelity". I don't know how it does it, but to my ears it preserves your tones while modulating them. Especially the cleans. Brilliant
I enjoyed your video on the SCF. I have an original SCF 1st gen pedal. I was using it but recently picked up a vintage TC 1210 which I run in parallel (with kill dry on the 1210) so I removed the SCF. Also, when I was running the SCF post pre-amps, I just couldn’t get enough headroom (though yours sounded perfect in that configuration--how did you avoid clipping?). I also have a vintage CE-2 from the ‘80’s but it’s not being used at the moment as my rig is stereo. Would love for you to include the TC 1210, CE-2, SCF, Dimension D & Electric Mistress in your shoot out. Also, could you please give us the signal path from your video on the SCF? What are you using for detune and where in the signal chain are you putting it relative to the SCF. I find that when I run them in series, it’s just too “washy” (though your signal sounded great) so lately I’ve been running them in parallel. My rig is full stereo/dual mono (often two different pre-amp’s L/R) so sometimes I’ll feed one channel to the 1210 and the other to Pitch Detune and then mix the stereo returns from each with the dry stereo signal.
@@LeonTodd The 1210 is truly next level. Nothing compares to it. Gold standard, for sure. I’m not an ‘80’s tri-chorus guy-the 1210 is much more my “jam” when it comes to chorus.
I must have missed this one somehow. Yes sir, those are great pedals, and I have the SCF Gold which sounds exactly like the original. I missed getting one when they were in production, and didn't feel the need to invest in an overpriced vintage one. I'm glad I held out now. When I get the 2290P, I'm going to put mine in front of that and have a party with them. You should try that.
@@LeonTodd I'll bet it is! I can't wait to try it out myself. It looks like I'm going to get the 2290P first, then I'll get the SDE3000 EVH to use in a different rig. Sheesh, I'm addicted to gear, and your awesome demo videos don't dissuade me from getting more! 🤣
Just caught up with this one - have now got this (new version) running in parallel with cew on a stereo aby stacking into a dimension WAZA and my initial signal split done with a boss bf3 (which follows optionally an e lady) - mod stacking is even more fun than drive stacking !
Chorus and Flanger with this pedal seem to have some subtlety and not getting in the way of your tone. But, it doesn't get too dramatic effects like when you play "No more tears" it's not as brutal as with a Boss (whatever model), or the flanger doesn't get as seasick as an MXR with the regenaration low as Lita and Ozzy "Close my eyes forever" guitar sound. You have to check out MXR Micro Chorus that's around since early '80s, I think. Very good analog thick sound. Richie Faulkner has one always on before his amps!
Shootout at the OK Choral. My friends all hate chorus. I have so many of them though so I can have just the right one for that rare occasion I can get away with using one.
Please note that this is not a criticism of this RUclips channel, just something we decided it's fair to point out to the community of RUclipsrs and players, after an extremely (and uniquely) negative personal experience we recently had with staff from the Behringer conglomerate. Our opinion is that Music Tribe/Behringer, a multi-billion company, adopts opportunistic and at times also borderline exploitative strategies in order to maximize its profits. That's their priority, and there's nothing wrong with prioritizing profits. Unfortunately, though, they take this business approach to extremes that sometimes conflict with ethics; no other major company in the musical instrument industry behaves the way they do. From our experience, it regularly tries to get free exposure from RUclipsrs without paying them; it's public knowledge that it has sued people for expressing their opinions about its products and publicly mocked journalists who criticize them; it also produced a borderline chauvinistic video ad at some point, just to mention a few notable things. At the peak of the pandemic, when gear builders were selling 3 to 5 times as much as in a normal year while promoters like us were seeing their earnings collapse, their TC staff tried to get us to do some promo for them "without a budget." Please note that while we cover all pedals on our blog without asking for money and we sometimes even do promotions without a budget for small, emerging brands, we don't think any multi-billion dollar company should ask anyone to work for free, ever. This personal experience, added to the many examples of morally questionable behavior highlighted in the video below, motivated us to post comments like this one on every new video highlighting TC and Behringer products we stumble upon, in the hopes that this negative publicity will make the company change their behavior. ruclips.net/video/p5RSIWbZ6Vc/видео.html
A few cool sounds from the TC SCF+ (vintage original one) and tricks: ruclips.net/video/4hAEEsjer7I/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/R9YfAcOdhCw/видео.html
@@LeonTodd Always enjoy your channel ! ❤ i thought you had one of these GOLD home, never mind i wait Really sorry for my garbage english ! 😁 and thx for your answer, i guess you have thousand things to do and so are very busy !
Chorii lovers unite!
😂
Here! 🙋♂️
Great. Familiar with Boss, Rockman, Neunaber and G-System. It can't hurt to add this pedal to my collection. sounds great and different than the ones I have.
I love this thing, some settings reminds me of the Eventide Harmonizers and Flangers of the late 70s
But those were very expensive studio effects back then i think $1,500 in 1979, this sounds as good
80's cleans are on point! T.C.'s GOAT pedal for sure!
I love how when you arpeggio are the chords, the glisten of the chorus makes it sound like there are complex echos going on as well. Then you stop playing…NO ECHoS!
Sadly, mine died a few years ago. I’m looking forward to trying the new reissue
I actually watched your video waiting for this one to arrive!
That 80s clean section is very close to some 80s Dann Huff tones. Good to hear that this has some of the TC 80s rack unit magic in a pedal format. I'm interested in picking up the reissue. This would get into super 80s territory with the DBX 160 compressor!
Love the SCF and I have an original. The flanger part of it is particularly good. I know that everyone wants it for the Eric Johnson and JP chorus sounds, but I think the Flanger on it is the real standout for clean flanger tones. Put it on flanger mode and then a Roland Space Echo or Volante after it and you've got an amazing 80's Post-Punk/Goth Rock guitar sound similar to The Cure, The Mission, Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Cult - She Sells Sanctuary. I'm glad to see you got an original one. It would be great to see a video comparison of this against the current reissue from the unspeakable company that bought TC electronic. I think your clean Rockman sound with the SCF and H3000 micro pitch detune plus a dual delay with the TC 2290 sound playing the same Heaven Above main melody riff would sound fantastic layered underneath the main distorted riff!
I think the whole post-punk era features some of the most effective and tasteful uses of modulation effects in general. Having said that, time to crank up some Cult!
the Behringer pedal?
Some people like it but the original is better which is often the case with most things. The noise floor on all of the original tc electronic equipment has always been exemplary.@@matttaylor1449
The pedal is totally badass.....and the player as well!
I never get tired to mention, that this is one rare kind of unit, which has an input impedance to line drive an old, passive Fender Rhodes piano cleanly & with relatively low noise.
Generally an adjustable preamp is a plus on an effect pedal, even when those preamps are always very different to each other..
Dommage: The SCF is making stereo by flipping the phase in the other output like many other "guitar"stereo chorus pedals - hence no mono compatibility in direct studio recordings. Don´t know about two mic´ed speaker cabinets..(*)
But used straight in mono the chorus/p.m./flanger sounds quite well, too.
(*) In studio, one could "delay" one output for about 30ms with one 100% wet single delay line (like a fake double tracker), and preserve modulation,
but then you´ll have to deal - in mono - with those narrowed double attacks sitting upon each other all the time.
Sometimes that might turn out ok - or maybe even great - though.
You´ll always have to check out & decide... A "MONO" button in reach is a valuable thing to have in the studio.
Great stuff as always Leon!
A friend of mine owns the reissue model of this pedal and it's really tough not to clip the input stage, even with the input gain set to 0.
Doesn't matter if in the loop or into the amp. 9V just doesn't give you the same headroom as 110V/230V/240V i assume.
Something to keep in mind for the folks that got their GAS activated by this video haha
Interesting. I'm keen to try the reissue and compare but I've been super impressed with how clean this example is.
What’s running into it? I’ve had the reissue for a few months now and find the opposite to be true in my experience (it never clips). The one exception being when my fuzz face volume and gain is on 10 and even then it doesn’t really happen. Just saying, maybe a faulty unit or something to look into?
@@adrianr2312 interesting. as stated i tried multiple positions on my friends board (not my unit). The only way to not make it clip was an EQ in front with a -12dB level reduction. Still sounded like it should though, so pretty sure its fine. Especially because i experienced similar things with lots of Chorus-pedals. Even the Chorus-Toneprint on the Flashback Delay i own clips, whereas everything else runs smoothly (except the footswitch, that is)
My live rig in 1987 was a couple of Marshall Jubilee Heads,the TC Chorus,and a Rockman stereo echo…I still have the TC and Rockman as well as one of the amps to this day..I believe my TC Chorus is from 1985….It’s truly a unique pedal,like you said,nothing else sounds like it….
Sick rig! Still haven't had the chance to try a Jubilee in the studio here. The Rockman stereo echo is another unit I'd love to try.
@@LeonTodd Ah yes, the Rockman Stereo Echo is one of my all time favorites!
Honestly, aside from the distortion generator/preamp, I like all of the Rockman stuff very much.
I was shocked to see exactly how high the prices had climbed on that stuff even as far back as 2001...Wow!
2 and a half minutes in noticed some Rooster/Cantrell vibe on the flanger setting. Definitely a Worthy Pedal.
Big time!
I've had one on my board for the longest the time. The pitch modulator is fantastic.....a hidden gem between the other two options.
Definitely a unique addition to the bread and butter tones on there. Such a great pedal.
One of the best pedals ever. I’m certain you’re going to love it. It’s magic through a fender amp.
Yeesssss! Sounds so good with the pitch detune!
They just re-released it in Gold, excellent classic pedal!
This is one of the best pedals there is, I've had one for a long while now and love it.
I see you truly are a man of great taste!
@@LeonTodd It's just the matter of if it sounds good use it. It sounds killer on bass too!
That sounded killer, even on lap top speakers. Very cool demo, thanks!
You know it's great when even laptop speakers let it shine!
It really is gorgeous… And oh boy, reissue time!!!
🤘🏼😂🎸
The reissue seems to cop the tone pretty well!
@@LeonTodd lusted after for nearly four decades 😬
My SCF is still around- makes me want to plug it in! - you know literally plug it in! Thanks for the video
You had me at "Legendary Danish Chorus Pedal"
Thanks for a wonderfully excellent vid full of fantastic playing and excellent information on this brilliant classic pedal.
Welcome!
Awesome man. I've got to get me one of the reissues and try it. Great demo Leon!
You should!
That thing sounded heavenly. Absolutely Nirvana 😂♥️🤘
That strat is just killer. I would stick a yellow Custom 5 in the bridge maybe. 😂 or a DiMarzio tone zone or sure D in yellow of course. 😂♥️🤘
Great video sir Great tones and great playing as usual. ♥️🤘
Be safe and well my friend. ♥️🤘♥️
Great Demo, From 13:43 Killer Tones! Play It Loud! The Strat sounds great too, Do you have another bridge pickup?
A beautiful old thing!
Love this 80s in a box pedals series!! I’m stuck between this the tricerachorus. Open to any alternatives as well, love the channel!
tricerachorus is great since it offers simultaneous chorus AND pitch detune, which IMO is the ultimate for 80's grease
@@LeonTodd haha duly noted! Have you got a chance to play with the Somersault? Sounds so rich and lush but that tricerchorus is just wow! Thanks for the reply!
@@LeonTodd or better yet, what about this vs the micropitch 80's glory?!
@@brandonhamilton370 Micropitch pedal will let you do delay stuff but doesn't have chorus. tricerachorus gives you micropitch and chorus
@@LeonTodd I’m running a mono rig and feel I can’t fully utilize the tricerachorus. I’ve tried dialling in different settings and can’t seem to get the micropitch effect. Should I be looking for more of a mono style pedal for this effect (if even possible)? Or do you have any settings available I can try out? Thanks again!
I just got the reissuse of this pedal today for my simple tube amp rig, it should pair well with my Friedman Pink Taco V2
Congrats!
There's a lot of the King's X sound in there in there - I think it was In The New Age got a quick riff in there 👍
You know it!
"In The New Age" was at least 30 years old before I realized there's a vocal part on that dunna-dah-dah riff. 😆
the cleans sounds great !! ita brigns me KING CRIMSON records from 80 and WHITSNAKE :) beautifull sound !!! I mean 17.00 min....great pedal !!!
Discipline is one of my favourite albums ever, love 80's KC!
@@LeonTodd my too MATE KUDASAI :)
The word that popped into my head from the first clean chord you struck was "fidelity". I don't know how it does it, but to my ears it preserves your tones while modulating them. Especially the cleans. Brilliant
Definitely. Makes everything you like about your tone better.
I enjoyed your video on the SCF. I have an original SCF 1st gen pedal. I was using it but recently picked up a vintage TC 1210 which I run in parallel (with kill dry on the 1210) so I removed the SCF. Also, when I was running the SCF post pre-amps, I just couldn’t get enough headroom (though yours sounded perfect in that configuration--how did you avoid clipping?). I also have a vintage CE-2 from the ‘80’s but it’s not being used at the moment as my rig is stereo. Would love for you to include the TC 1210, CE-2, SCF, Dimension D & Electric Mistress in your shoot out. Also, could you please give us the signal path from your video on the SCF? What are you using for detune and where in the signal chain are you putting it relative to the SCF. I find that when I run them in series, it’s just too “washy” (though your signal sounded great) so lately I’ve been running them in parallel. My rig is full stereo/dual mono (often two different pre-amp’s L/R) so sometimes I’ll feed one channel to the 1210 and the other to Pitch Detune and then mix the stereo returns from each with the dry stereo signal.
I'd so love to grab a 1210 at some point. The detune I added in post once everything was recorded with a roughly 40/60 wet/dry mix.
@@LeonTodd sounded fantastic. Was the detune a plug-in?
@@LeonTodd The 1210 is truly next level. Nothing compares to it. Gold standard, for sure. I’m not an ‘80’s tri-chorus guy-the 1210 is much more my “jam” when it comes to chorus.
I must have missed this one somehow. Yes sir, those are great pedals, and I have the SCF Gold which sounds exactly like the original. I missed getting one when they were in production, and didn't feel the need to invest in an overpriced vintage one. I'm glad I held out now.
When I get the 2290P, I'm going to put mine in front of that and have a party with them. You should try that.
Can confirm that combination is heaven!
@@LeonTodd I'll bet it is! I can't wait to try it out myself. It looks like I'm going to get the 2290P first, then I'll get the SDE3000 EVH to use in a different rig. Sheesh, I'm addicted to gear, and your awesome demo videos don't dissuade me from getting more! 🤣
cool pedal
Just caught up with this one - have now got this (new version) running in parallel with cew on a stereo aby stacking into a dimension WAZA and my initial signal split done with a boss bf3 (which follows optionally an e lady) - mod stacking is even more fun than drive stacking !
I approve of this level of grease!
Classic! Jealous! Never played one either. 🤙🏼
Check out this thread for some great scf settings on the Axe!
forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/tc-1210-tc-scf.172165/page-2
@@LeonTodd Well thank you, Todorovich!
Chorus and Flanger with this pedal seem to have some subtlety and not getting in the way of your tone. But, it doesn't get too dramatic effects like when you play "No more tears" it's not as brutal as with a Boss (whatever model), or the flanger doesn't get as seasick as an MXR with the regenaration low as Lita and Ozzy "Close my eyes forever" guitar sound. You have to check out MXR Micro Chorus that's around since early '80s, I think. Very good analog thick sound. Richie Faulkner has one always on before his amps!
I've got to try them all! I'm addicted now
LEON TODD< How does Eric Johnson use the TC SCF FLANGER mode? if you listen to his studio albums he is using the TC flanger mode but with his echoplex
Your guitar tone is great. What amp, DI or anything else are you playing ?
Using my Axe-Fx for the dry tone - ODS Clean for cleans and Mark IV for dirt
Shootout at the OK Choral.
My friends all hate chorus. I have so many of them though so I can have just the right one for that rare occasion I can get away with using one.
Please note that this is not a criticism of this RUclips channel, just something we decided it's fair to point out to the community of RUclipsrs and players, after an extremely (and uniquely) negative personal experience we recently had with staff from the Behringer conglomerate.
Our opinion is that Music Tribe/Behringer, a multi-billion company, adopts opportunistic and at times also borderline exploitative strategies in order to maximize its profits. That's their priority, and there's nothing wrong with prioritizing profits. Unfortunately, though, they take this business approach to extremes that sometimes conflict with ethics; no other major company in the musical instrument industry behaves the way they do.
From our experience, it regularly tries to get free exposure from RUclipsrs without paying them; it's public knowledge that it has sued people for expressing their opinions about its products and publicly mocked journalists who criticize them; it also produced a borderline chauvinistic video ad at some point, just to mention a few notable things.
At the peak of the pandemic, when gear builders were selling 3 to 5 times as much as in a normal year while promoters like us were seeing their earnings collapse, their TC staff tried to get us to do some promo for them "without a budget."
Please note that while we cover all pedals on our blog without asking for money and we sometimes even do promotions without a budget for small, emerging brands, we don't think any multi-billion dollar company should ask anyone to work for free, ever.
This personal experience, added to the many examples of morally questionable behavior highlighted in the video below, motivated us to post comments like this one on every new video highlighting TC and Behringer products we stumble upon, in the hopes that this negative publicity will make the company change their behavior.
ruclips.net/video/p5RSIWbZ6Vc/видео.html
A few cool sounds from the TC SCF+ (vintage original one) and tricks: ruclips.net/video/4hAEEsjer7I/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/R9YfAcOdhCw/видео.html
You need to try the ADA std 1, its glorious, it will fit perfectly in your already amazing rack collection
YES! That's one in my ebay saved searches :D
@@LeonTodd Look also for the Rocktron prochorus version, they were the same I think
Leon, was this pedal in the front of the amp or did you run it into the effects loop?
Mono clips were pre, stereo clips were post.
@@LeonTodd Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. 😊
I skipped to 15:05, the best way to hear what the pedal really does.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say that the tone bender beat tc on the top mounted jack thing by a couple decades.
Leon, what is the best way to route this pedal with an fm9 ? Thanks GD
hi from french riveira
i bought a new GOLD ONE and appreciate it ! For you is this "new" gear GREAT OR GARBAGE ?
I need to try one ! Great to hear you're enjoying it.
@@LeonTodd Always enjoy your channel ! ❤ i thought you had one of these GOLD home, never mind i wait
Really sorry for my garbage english ! 😁 and thx for your answer, i guess you have thousand things to do and so are very busy !
If you liked that, get your hands on a Digitech Nautila and see what ya think!
i wish that tc would reeissiue the boost line driver distortion from this era too
Yes! I'm on the hunt for one
Ohhh yes I need that video
Great sounding box but I really didn't care for the flanger post gain, chorus is its thing imo.
explain the pitch D tune, Thanks
Chorus and flanger make the pitch wobble, detune is static. Imagine playing 2 guitars that are slightly out of tune with each other
Is it analog?
Yeah it's built around BBD's
Loving the Bryan Adams licks. Keith Scott has one of the all time best Strat tones.
He does! Underrated player
@@LeonTodd Absolutely!