Yes I hate the trend of infesting online multiplayer shooters with AI bots, like with what Fortnite did. You feel good about yourself until you realize it’s just bots and then the moment you face someone who’s actually real and you die/lose, you just feel worse about yourself. Edit: I retract my statement because I believe bots are only in your first few games but I could be wrong
Easiest way to tell for sure there are bots is that they spray the default spray twice before the round starts, once on the floor and once on the door right before it opens. It's an anti-tilt thing as far as I can tell, gives you one of these cheesy bot matches after you lose 2-3 quick matches in a row so you don't rage quit.
Just got destroyed and insulted tonight, this game is great but when people would rather six stack quickplay and ruin peoples individual games (yes i was straight focused, objective didn't exist to them) it makes me want to quite, so I play moon knight and i am not getting constant triples but I just wanted to have fun, this kne experience is really pushing me to stay away from comp, despite leveling for it...
Maybe they do this for the absolute newest players but zero shot you get bots once you're not so bad they literally can't find any real players bad enough to put against you haha
Another hint that you played in a bot match is to check their profiles after the game. All of your opponents have their profile set to private you probably faced bots.
Easiest way to spot bots in this game: They typically will always follow the FirstLast naming system with half of the last name cut of ie. JoanCo, ReggieLow etc. However I have seen some bots use "normal" names; I came across one called yuggi the other day. Their movements are all pretty bot like too and you can almost always notice this in spawn for example if you have a bot Luna Snow she will CONSTANTLY be switching her snowflake between teammates while waiting and while on the way to point repeatedly. After the match is done if you want to check their profile you never can as every single bot has a private profile. Also, when you go to recent players after the match you can guarantee they're always between level 1-10, usually on the lower end.
There are bots in Rivals quick play. If I lose 2 in a row, I'll get a bot game. On my team, 2 will be bots, and on the enemy team, all 6 will be bots. It's basically a huge waste of time.
I keep hearing about these bot matches after you lose 2-3 in a row or something but I checked my match history and still haven't faced any. At least, not beyond my very first game, which I think *everyone* faces bots in their first game.
There are definitely developer implemented AI bots in the game. Probably just at the first couple matches or low elos. There is even a mode to train with human players vs AI bots in the game. This character behaves almost exactly like that
guys I'm pretty sure this is apart of there system. after around every 3 losses in a row in quick play they deliberately put you into match full of bots to adjust your win rate. you can tell you're in a bot lobby when you die to one of them and they are level 1 with a character border since you cant buy those straight away when u start the game, unless with money. When I get these lobby's I tend to just farm them for my proficiency.
@@keithstout3966 just bc you specifically havent gotten it before doesnt mean it doesnt exist? for example the other day i was playing with a friend on yggsgard convoy defense, i went moon knight and just placed an ankh in front of their spawn door and just farmed them from high ground, not once did they destroy my ankh and i ended up with a 45 killstreak
I'm almost convinced I also encountered a bot of some kind. Seeing when they snap and track you with robot like precision isn't normal, especially when you notice the lack of any jerky movement during it.
Yeah, there are bot lobbies in MR and you can get them if you start losing enough matches in QP. It's not very fun, honestly. It's why I started playing ranked.
There's a funny bit in an "avengers tryouts" video by lando kalriz where a guy has the power to see ONLY through walls. That is what 2:21 made me think of lmao
I notice bots would hold on to ults a lot. They also don't separate much. So like no independent flankers that are way too far from the rest of the team.
I can confirm. They have strange behaviors(particularly the melee heroes) and have very generic TAGs. In History you cannot view the entire team's career profile and they are all on PC. Two will also be on your team. This occurs after a loss or two.
@@danielw8776 holy actually true had to play 3-4 games before realizing they we all real players with me and the only reason i was able to tell its cause they were typing in chat
I had one of these games. We were dominating them holding them at the spawn door. Then suddenly it looked like they activated hard aimbot and killed us and took first point. When I went back to watch the vod of the game from their pov I figured out it was an AI bot team. They had trouble even making it out the spawn doors.
If youre getting these bot lobbies and arent absolutely brand new youre either seeing things that aren't real, lying on the internet for attention, or are so bad the game cant find enough players bad enough to put against you
There are absolutely bots in Quick Match. Despite playing MR every day since release, I have never had a three game loss streak on QM. Why? Because after every two losses (sometimes after one loss but like clockwork after two without fail), the game puts you up against a bot team. And they aren't even AI Normal difficulty, they are AI Easy if that (I've played vs AI Easy and Normal to compare). Tells are the enemy team ALWAYS runs 2-2-2 comp and any swaps they make are always within the role they picked at the start (basically the enemy team has role queue enabled). After the game, which will be a pubstomp where your entire team will go 20+ elims and 0-1 deaths, if you go to your History, all six "players" on the enemy team will ALWAYS have their profile set to private (it's public by default). And if you spectate them, you see through the wall tracking, exceptional tracking of say a Spider-Man swinging full speed past them yet somehow they only manage 0-1 kills barring Ults. The whole game is a complete waste of time, you don't learn anything, you don't punished for anything. My first MR game ever I went 27-0, looking back, 99.9% sure that was a bot match too. First time testing SW, 33-0, Iron Man 31-0, the list goes on and on. It's gotten to the point where loading into a game after two losses, I straight up type into chat "I've lost two in a row, we're in a bot match." And so far, have been correct every time.
I have yet to encounter these. I checked my entire match history and couldn't find any bot matches unless they mix bots onto teams with real players too.
@@danielw8776 I can spot eight immediately in my History, have posted two more IDs already, but these are the ones currently in my History: 5059343350 5072514685 5075142374 5098215229 5081453040 5068682110 5097551165 5015993425 Somewhat interestingly, three of of those games were after only one loss. Things common between those matches, ALWAYS 2-2-2 comp and ALWAYS private profiles.
@@danielw8776 Not sure what happened to my previous reply, but I can find eight bot matches in my History with a quick scroll. I've posted two more IDs earlier, but here are the IDs: 5095343350 5072514685 5075142374 5098215229 5081453040 5068682110 5097551165 5015993425 Things common between all games, enemy team ALWAYS runs 2-2-2 and ALWAYS has private profiles.
@@danielw8776 I tried replying twice with game IDs but neither reply went through, probably blocked due to the IDs I guess? Anyway, with a quick glance I found eight bot matches in my current History, all where the enemy team was ALWAYS 2-2-2 and ALWAYS had private profiles. Have the IDs saved up even though can't post them in comments apparently.
Does this happen to ranked games too? I swear in my other account, these teammates are a lot more frequent, most especially in metal rank. They just go straight to where the action is and are usually together. Even if you say let's regroup in voice or type "guys regroup first" in chat or ping the standard regroup button command. It's either they're bots or are kids or are first time shooter games players. Not a good experience seriously. It's like they're out there to be your teammates and the game assesses if you can carry these "players."
so i matched that DottiDan dude and can confirm he's cheating because his hacks take into consideration projectile bullets i have a vod i saved of him that i'd be willing to share the code for dude got a triple kill on me and my team when I was behind him P.S. your point about the AI bot thing might hold some weight cause he was like this in my match as well
Not how it works. Those bots don't have Steam/Epic/PS5/Xbox accounts. They are generated in-game. The 20,000,000 are active accounts playing. I mean Steam alone has 400k players.
@lilywong9672 Yeah I know lol but it's easy to see why it has so many players. I still like playing Overwatch but Rivals is a ton of fun too. It's crazy how many players it has though.
why put bad people vs bots instead of just putting them vs other people just as bad they say they only care about fun but no one likes playing vs bots when they queue for pvp and not pve
Marvel Rivals got PVE before Overwatch... But seriously though, it's kinda sad that a "PVP" game puts bots in the game to manipulate kids/dumb players.
They get better and more motivated after this and play the game more, why not? No actual player is losing that much and this helps you play new chracters more easily, i dont really see a problem here.
@@emirlerdtm6774 it is lying and manipulative because people think they are playing against other players and then when they find out they only won because they played against bots it just makes them feel worse. If people want to play against bots, then they go out of their way to do it.
I'm the alleged cheater (dottidan). I appreciate receiving the benefit of the doubt but I am in fact a long time player with over 200 hours in the beta. I was grouped with the doctor and we were both having a strange reaction from the sugar free gummies.
I had a match last night where I swear to God it was five people on my team were bots. I literally just looked at what they were doing and like for the first 30 seconds the Loki didn’t put down a clone, and several abilities. Just it didn’t make any sense. They all walked very similarly and grouped up in weird ways, and took weird pathing. But I thought there’s no way that it was for real and decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I went like 30 and 0 on wolverine and thought I was tearing it up, when I realized it was just bots. Felt worse after that.
Yes I hate the trend of infesting online multiplayer shooters with AI bots, like with what Fortnite did. You feel good about yourself until you realize it’s just bots and then the moment you face someone who’s actually real and you die/lose, you just feel worse about yourself.
Edit: I retract my statement because I believe bots are only in your first few games but I could be wrong
Easiest way to tell for sure there are bots is that they spray the default spray twice before the round starts, once on the floor and once on the door right before it opens. It's an anti-tilt thing as far as I can tell, gives you one of these cheesy bot matches after you lose 2-3 quick matches in a row so you don't rage quit.
Just got destroyed and insulted tonight, this game is great but when people would rather six stack quickplay and ruin peoples individual games (yes i was straight focused, objective didn't exist to them) it makes me want to quite, so I play moon knight and i am not getting constant triples but I just wanted to have fun, this kne experience is really pushing me to stay away from comp, despite leveling for it...
Maybe they do this for the absolute newest players but zero shot you get bots once you're not so bad they literally can't find any real players bad enough to put against you haha
I do the same thing as them, am i a bot now????
Another hint that you played in a bot match is to check their profiles after the game. All of your opponents have their profile set to private you probably faced bots.
I mean look at the turning. no human turns like that.
Easiest way to spot bots in this game:
They typically will always follow the FirstLast naming system with half of the last name cut of ie. JoanCo, ReggieLow etc. However I have seen some bots use "normal" names; I came across one called yuggi the other day. Their movements are all pretty bot like too and you can almost always notice this in spawn for example if you have a bot Luna Snow she will CONSTANTLY be switching her snowflake between teammates while waiting and while on the way to point repeatedly. After the match is done if you want to check their profile you never can as every single bot has a private profile. Also, when you go to recent players after the match you can guarantee they're always between level 1-10, usually on the lower end.
If they are enemies you also can't hide from them behind corners or something. Once you enter their zone of awareness they spot you.
you could walk right into them and they’ll even ignore you for a while
There are bots in Rivals quick play. If I lose 2 in a row, I'll get a bot game. On my team, 2 will be bots, and on the enemy team, all 6 will be bots. It's basically a huge waste of time.
I keep hearing about these bot matches after you lose 2-3 in a row or something but I checked my match history and still haven't faced any. At least, not beyond my very first game, which I think *everyone* faces bots in their first game.
I had them. You can easily tell. Like in this video. Also, their career is always private. For the whole team.
I had several games today, you can tell by the names
i face them often considering i leave matches when a match is obviously one sided and their names will always be weird
I've done the practice vs. AI mode. These bots in matches are way worse than the game's normal AI.
There are definitely developer implemented AI bots in the game. Probably just at the first couple matches or low elos. There is even a mode to train with human players vs AI bots in the game. This character behaves almost exactly like that
@@thenute4087 nah. I still get them after having played a bunch and I'm somewhat decent at the game.
@@stufftuffet rank?
I'm GM on console, and I get bot lobbies if I lose 3 quickplay matches in a row
@@akko-47Its quickplay, right?
guys I'm pretty sure this is apart of there system. after around every 3 losses in a row in quick play they deliberately put you into match full of bots to adjust your win rate. you can tell you're in a bot lobby when you die to one of them and they are level 1 with a character border since you cant buy those straight away when u start the game, unless with money. When I get these lobby's I tend to just farm them for my proficiency.
I have not gotten these lobbies you are making this up
@ if you search marvel rivals bots on the search bar. You’ll see a couple of videos of people encountering them in there games
@@keithstout3966it’s a real thing. I mostly noticed when I first started playing tho
@@keithstout3966 just bc you specifically havent gotten it before doesnt mean it doesnt exist? for example the other day i was playing with a friend on yggsgard convoy defense, i went moon knight and just placed an ankh in front of their spawn door and just farmed them from high ground, not once did they destroy my ankh and i ended up with a 45 killstreak
I'm almost convinced I also encountered a bot of some kind. Seeing when they snap and track you with robot like precision isn't normal, especially when you notice the lack of any jerky movement during it.
bruh they even got the fortnite bots names lol (TwoWords with TwoCapital)
Yeah, there are bot lobbies in MR and you can get them if you start losing enough matches in QP. It's not very fun, honestly. It's why I started playing ranked.
There's a funny bit in an "avengers tryouts" video by lando kalriz where a guy has the power to see ONLY through walls. That is what 2:21 made me think of lmao
Finally someone is taking about this, I run into a bot game every time I lose more than two matches, it’s ridiculous
I notice bots would hold on to ults a lot. They also don't separate much. So like no independent flankers that are way too far from the rest of the team.
Super funny the guy said cheater and then finds out the games giving him bots for mercy hahaha
I can confirm. They have strange behaviors(particularly the melee heroes) and have very generic TAGs. In History you cannot view the entire team's career profile and they are all on PC. Two will also be on your team. This occurs after a loss or two.
10:49 is what happens when a tutorial NPC has full access to the code and an intrusive thought
Also the fact that they lost a round to literal bots is hilarious
I've played a few practice vs ai matches to get some missions done and you'd be shocked how bad a lot of people are in there against easy bots.
@@danielw8776 holy actually true had to play 3-4 games before realizing they we all real players with me and the only reason i was able to tell its cause they were typing in chat
I had one of these games. We were dominating them holding them at the spawn door. Then suddenly it looked like they activated hard aimbot and killed us and took first point. When I went back to watch the vod of the game from their pov I figured out it was an AI bot team. They had trouble even making it out the spawn doors.
It’s definitely a bot, they perfectly track a couple times then intentionally move their crosshairs bottom right from the target
If youre getting these bot lobbies and arent absolutely brand new youre either seeing things that aren't real, lying on the internet for attention, or are so bad the game cant find enough players bad enough to put against you
I've had these bots quite a lot of times tbh
There are absolutely bots in Quick Match. Despite playing MR every day since release, I have never had a three game loss streak on QM. Why? Because after every two losses (sometimes after one loss but like clockwork after two without fail), the game puts you up against a bot team. And they aren't even AI Normal difficulty, they are AI Easy if that (I've played vs AI Easy and Normal to compare). Tells are the enemy team ALWAYS runs 2-2-2 comp and any swaps they make are always within the role they picked at the start (basically the enemy team has role queue enabled). After the game, which will be a pubstomp where your entire team will go 20+ elims and 0-1 deaths, if you go to your History, all six "players" on the enemy team will ALWAYS have their profile set to private (it's public by default). And if you spectate them, you see through the wall tracking, exceptional tracking of say a Spider-Man swinging full speed past them yet somehow they only manage 0-1 kills barring Ults. The whole game is a complete waste of time, you don't learn anything, you don't punished for anything. My first MR game ever I went 27-0, looking back, 99.9% sure that was a bot match too. First time testing SW, 33-0, Iron Man 31-0, the list goes on and on. It's gotten to the point where loading into a game after two losses, I straight up type into chat "I've lost two in a row, we're in a bot match." And so far, have been correct every time.
I have yet to encounter these. I checked my entire match history and couldn't find any bot matches unless they mix bots onto teams with real players too.
@@danielw8776 I can spot eight immediately in my History, have posted two more IDs already, but these are the ones currently in my History:
5059343350
5072514685
5075142374
5098215229
5081453040
5068682110
5097551165
5015993425
Somewhat interestingly, three of of those games were after only one loss. Things common between those matches, ALWAYS 2-2-2 comp and ALWAYS private profiles.
@@danielw8776 Not sure what happened to my previous reply, but I can find eight bot matches in my History with a quick scroll. I've posted two more IDs earlier, but here are the IDs:
5095343350
5072514685
5075142374
5098215229
5081453040
5068682110
5097551165
5015993425
Things common between all games, enemy team ALWAYS runs 2-2-2 and ALWAYS has private profiles.
@@danielw8776 I tried replying twice with game IDs but neither reply went through, probably blocked due to the IDs I guess? Anyway, with a quick glance I found eight bot matches in my current History, all where the enemy team was ALWAYS 2-2-2 and ALWAYS had private profiles. Have the IDs saved up even though can't post them in comments apparently.
Does this happen to ranked games too? I swear in my other account, these teammates are a lot more frequent, most especially in metal rank. They just go straight to where the action is and are usually together. Even if you say let's regroup in voice or type "guys regroup first" in chat or ping the standard regroup button command.
It's either they're bots or are kids or are first time shooter games players. Not a good experience seriously. It's like they're out there to be your teammates and the game assesses if you can carry these "players."
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All my dps players are usually bots
Honestly, I am more impressed that this AI
Reminds me of left 4 dead where the bots would be terrible all campaign except for 1 or 2 inhuman shots.
ALRIGHT SO!!
I wonder why they make bots, I doubt it's to train cheats because you wouldn't make a full team for that
probably for the vs ai mode and plant them there afterwards
so i matched that DottiDan dude and can confirm he's cheating because his hacks take into consideration projectile bullets i have a vod i saved of him that i'd be willing to share the code for
dude got a triple kill on me and my team when I was behind him
P.S. your point about the AI bot thing might hold some weight cause he was like this in my match as well
Imagine being bad at the game so badly that the game needed to match you with bots for you to feel better 💀
I had a game where something extremely similar happened, can share code if interested
No wonder they have like a 20 million player count on this game lol
Not how it works. Those bots don't have Steam/Epic/PS5/Xbox accounts. They are generated in-game. The 20,000,000 are active accounts playing. I mean Steam alone has 400k players.
@lilywong9672 Yeah I know lol but it's easy to see why it has so many players. I still like playing Overwatch but Rivals is a ton of fun too. It's crazy how many players it has though.
Wonder if the player count getting boosted by bots too.
probably if they are registered as accounts to make them look legit.
Bots wouldn’t have steam, Xbox, or ps4 accounts so no
why put bad people vs bots instead of just putting them vs other people just as bad they say they only care about fun but no one likes playing vs bots when they queue for pvp and not pve
Marvel Rivals got PVE before Overwatch...
But seriously though, it's kinda sad that a "PVP" game puts bots in the game to manipulate kids/dumb players.
They get better and more motivated after this and play the game more, why not? No actual player is losing that much and this helps you play new chracters more easily, i dont really see a problem here.
Also this happens only on QP as far as i know.
@@emirlerdtm6774 it is lying and manipulative because people think they are playing against other players and then when they find out they only won because they played against bots it just makes them feel worse.
If people want to play against bots, then they go out of their way to do it.
I think the first four on that team with the similar name patterns (aka FirstLast) are all bots lmaoo
It's obvious what they are once you go to practice against AI and go to hard pathing aim and decision making is the same as the bots on hard
Howdy
How else is Netgames supposed to get those big numbers on player counts? It’s not like that many ppl play hero shooters these days.
The bots are generated in game. They don't have their own Steam account. There stilla hundreds of thousands of players playing on Steam.
Looks like a console lobby
I'm the alleged cheater (dottidan). I appreciate receiving the benefit of the doubt but I am in fact a long time player with over 200 hours in the beta. I was grouped with the doctor and we were both having a strange reaction from the sugar free gummies.
I had a match last night where I swear to God it was five people on my team were bots. I literally just looked at what they were doing and like for the first 30 seconds the Loki didn’t put down a clone, and several abilities. Just it didn’t make any sense. They all walked very similarly and grouped up in weird ways, and took weird pathing. But I thought there’s no way that it was for real and decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.