Hulk shouldn't throw wolverine at the enemy. He should throw him behind the enemies or to the left or right flank. so wolverine can come come up on them unnoticed and take them out.
Loki is so powerful, the rune can negate almost every ultimate and the damage/healing is not bad at all. Plus the ability to select the ultimate that would be most impactful for any given situation
@0li-0li28 personally, the distraction of shooting the clones out ways the cool down on them and whenever they're getting destroyed too fast it's either bad placement or they have a FREAKING MOON KNIGHT.
The crystals can be deceptively bulky for some heroes (melee heroes have fun LOL), and remembering that the domain lasts 5s with a 25s CD (starting on cast, 20s downtime) helps with maximizing his value. Decoys having the ability to distract fire as well as set up for damage/healing is quite good, and there's tons of utility for the swap. One of my games had a Thor on the enemy team, so as a playmaker decision I placed a decoy behind the backline, swapped with it, copied Thor, and immediately deleted 3 people with Thor ult because I knew they didn't have a counter ready. Loki is easily my favorite strategist and will only get better over time as people improve his gameplay and CD management. And I already think he's top 3 in role.
So wrong with loki. He has unparalleled utility with regen domain because it counters all damage. He has some of the best survivability and THE best ult in the game. Scarlet ult? Get in the green circle. Ironman ult? The green circle. Punisher ult? Yep, you guessed it, circulo verde.
He definitely is underrated. it's crazy he has THREE ways to avoid getting picked off by a dive which i find essential with every lobby having a Psylocke. The issue with him though is that unless he has a good clone setup those healing runes are his only form of good burst healing and with the long cooldown you can find yourself not having it when you need it.
Well, emongg doesn’t actually have the ability to aim so take the list with a a grain of salt. A lot of those characters are better if you can actually play an fps. Note how the only melee character he doesn’t rate highly is wolverine. And he admits he has no idea how to play the character.
@@zacharyjackson1829 the point of clone set up you made is very true and that is where the real skill comes in. Being able to know where those clones should go, if one or both are gone and when to use regen domain is what separates the mediocre from the formidable. It is what keeps him balanced and able to be countered. So many times I have saved half our team with the green circle only for something like Wanda to nearly team wipe. At a basic level, ult counters ult and ability counters ability but in Loki's case ability counters everything (except Jeff) so it is balanced by its biggest strength: its versatility. It can be used in just about every situation to save an entire team but if used too soon (even if used very well) it won't be available for something bigger.
moonknight has the issue that peni has and is if people know to target your akhn or just stand away from each other he's just a worse dps than most other heros
@@Brzzzyexe Ankh is turbo overrated, if you can aim you should just be clicking on heads and using the ankh for a range extender to dps enemies that are spread apart or to get around shields. Ankh being down matters less than players think
More webs with Peni do not increase the healing. It heals the same speed/amount regardless how many webs shes standing on/near. What the webs also do is provide a path for the spider mines when the nest has been setup. That aside I agree with you. Shes very strong on defense and can have some issues on attack.
I'm like 90% sure the spider nest web and your regular cyber web attack are counted as separate from each other, though. If you stack a bunch of regular webs then you're right, it doesn't increase the heal speed, but if you stack a regular web on top of the spider nest web, the healing speed increases
Peni has no issue with being aggressive. The web zip has a low cool down and the spider nest has a 15 second cool down. She doesn't have a reload on her main and you can launch the mines like grenades. Best tank in the game
@@nikolai2418 according to steamcharts, OW2’s peak player count was 75,361. In the 11 days that Marvel Rivals has been officially released, they have a peak player count of 418,832. With the 24 hour peak being a little over 400,000, the game will have over 10,000,000 players in the first 25 days of being released (assuming the 24 hour peak stays around 400,000).
Namor is honestly a solid A, the only reason we haven't seen many good Namor players is because he's fairly boring to play compared to the rest of the roster, his kit is great but not exciting
I’ve been playing Namor a lot lately and he’s insane. Good ranged damage, turrets for flankers, can escape and be invincible for a little to get healed, and a damaging ult that also stuns
Tried Iron man yesterday after avoiding him because of tier lists and boy did i LOVE him. by my second match i was already pulling off a sick 5 man ult. where people mess up with Iron Man is they dont use natural cover enough and become too predictable. you should herass with him similar to Spiderman and should always try to be at a slight off angle from your team ideally near a health pack so you can truly make it hard for the enemy team to focus you over your team on objective. get used to peaking around a specific corner but take a different angle once that enemy hawkeye or Punisher catches on.
Hulk needs to throw wolverine at the enemy tank, not many people realized this but wolverine does a percentage of damage not a flat number, he’s a tank shredder but struggles against characters with lower hp, Wolverine is pretty strong but you’ve got to be patient, wait for the enemy tank to make a mistake then kidnap him and kill him in a one v one
I'd argue that it's best if hulk throws wolverine slightly *behind* the enemy tank to set him up to kidnap the tank into your team. It's like a 2-man hook that is *way* harder to miss.
Cloak and Dagger are S Tier if the player knows what they’re doing, but they can be really bad if the person is clueless. A great player playing Cloak and Dagger is so hard to kill, and Tanks are basically immortal with their healing output. So fun to play.
i feel cloak and dagger in a good players hand is an s tier because of the utilities, being able to counter almost every meta characters ultimate with cloak utilities makes him better than Luna, but Luna ultimate is better than everyone else's in the game.
Feels bad for Scarlet. I enjoyed her a lot in the beta, but her left click is a squirt-gun; and that's with a 15% seasonal damage boost. Once that boost is rotated out, it'll be as if the enemy is getting tickled with a feather. Hope she gets a slight numbers buff to her kit.
@koopa6_412 Sometimes after playing Psylocke and Punisher, I just wanna chill on Scarlet. Hope they don't listen to the mass playerbase complaining about her ult lol.
They could buff her right click. Now it does like 30 damage and that’s just a very small amount. Also her E ability is very weird, it seems like they wanted to somehow differentiate it from Hela’s CC ability, but in return it turned out to be weak and unresponsive. Maybe something can be done there. Otherwise, there isn’t really anything you can do with her, she’s just way too easy of a character to truly think about seriously buffing her numbers.
They worded seasonal boost awfully, the icon and seasonal boost is on characters who in team ups dont get anything but a numbers change (scarlet witch venom etc) so that dmg boost is only when paired with magneto
I love Scarlet but I know youre right. Climbing through the ranks she is getting harder and harder as people are learning more. Its only a matter of time before shes bad in pubs as well. Problem is, there isnt much they can do to buff her without making her overpowered, so im not sure what theyre going to do
Buffing her projectile dmg and recharge speed could make her be more dependent on those + speed and radius of her time stop orb give her more power outside of her primary suck to incentivize aiming and area denial tbh
These list are all getting pretty close very fast. I would put Peni, Loki and Moon Knight in A Tier but otherwise this is another great list. (Jeff's A Tier btw, probably fourth best of the strategists and Loki and Jeff are close). mL7s list is the best I've seen so far.
Namor is really slept on, he has the same damage output as hela and his turrents are insane especially with the luna team up. His mobility is bad and survivability is ok but he's definitely like low A
All these tier lists seem to be based on one playstyle and no strategy. As of right now, I don't see any hero being objectively better than another. It all comes down to how YOU use that hero. Any hero can be S tier in the right hands.
You can use that argument with anything in games if you want. I’ve seen people one trick themselves into Grandmaster with junkrat. So in the right hands any character at any time can be good. But most tier list take into account most players and playstyles. There is no way scarlet is an S rank hero, definitely as you climb. In general it takes a lot more to get so much less out of her than Hela who’s hitscan and can two tap.
Namor has got to be the most underrated hero in the game. I see everyone putting him in b tier because they never give him a chance. He’s a complete game wrecker whenever I play him. Especially when teamed with Luna
Lol i also feel like im playing reload simulator with dr strange. maybe if you get some ammo back from blocking damage it would feel a little better but there’s so many awkward situations where you’re trying to reload but need to constantly cancel it to shield for your team
Namor is so fucking op bro. I’ve been loving his kit, he just sits in the back with his turrets taking enemies out. Especially when you team him up with Luna you got 3 turrets now. Plus his ultimate is crazy. When used correctly it’s almost instant. I just kinda wish they would rework his bubble ability to make him fly. In most cases when you use that ability, you’re dead if the enemy had really good aim or to a BP lol.
Nah a good team will destroy his turrets and there goes a lot of his dps. His turrets are good for flankers i guess, but then he is just another left click dps and there are better picks
TBH I’d rather fight a Hela as ironman vs spiderman. A good hela is killing everyone anyway and a ironman out in the open is an idiot. You can easily keep a hela at bay by shooting repulsors by her cover. That spiderman tho like a fucking annoying bug.
Hear me out on cloak and dagger. No other character eats ults with a regular ability the way they do. You can literally shroud your whole team from just about ANY ultimate if you time your cloak right click right. Thats not even their ult. I think that alone makes them s tier.
As a storm main, i love the character, but man, she sucks. It's too easy to get hit out of the air and does like no damage for how hard it is to play her well. Ult is pretty busted though.
If you watch some top 500 players play star lord you will see why he’s so good, his ultimate is an instant delete button and once you master his movement and pace of play he’s very strong. Think of him like Tracer but on CRACK 😂
why is Star lord so high? dude he's a tracer with more aim forgiveness, an ability that has multiple charges that reloads and gives you mobility, endless mobility with his boots, and an ult that literally gives him aim assist that also benefits from his dash reloads. why would he NOT be A?
Iron Man in C is criminal. With good positioning and game sense, he is a very strong hero. He can hold down choke points better than many other heros because of his splash damage, and his damage range is rediculous. Being able to instantly team wipe with his ultimate in the right hands also makes him very useful in any mode that involves holding a point.
I'm cool with people underestimating him. Iron Man in the hands of a non-braindead player (who actually uses cover, unpredictable angles, preemptively repositions, etc.) is super deadly, but the perception of him being bad comes from the fact that 90% Iron Mans simply don't play that way. Realistically, MOST Iron Mans you see in game are C/D tier level threats at best (If you just hover above the fight in plain view of everybody, yes you're going to die. Simple as.) But when you do run into the rare one that knows what he's doing it becomes super oppressive to play against.
as a magik main 13/33 characters counter her. those character happen to be punisher, winter soldier, wolverine, scarlet witch, starlord, storm, iron man, penni, moon knight, cloak and dagger, ironfist, hela, and hawkeye. almost every game as a magik main ur gonna have to deal with being 1 tapped or almost 1 tapped.
@ ik how to deal with her but usaully it takes 2 since that auto targeting beam will kill me before i get in range unless i use the dash which could work if she doesn't go invisible and distance her self if so than i die. tldr if a scarlet witch main know what there abilities are and do she is a counter since magik cant get colse.
I can deal with all of those. I'm a high ranked Magik main. But when they go Hela I have to switch off unfortunately. I feel like people think Magik is way better than she actually is because 1. she stomps noobs in quickplay or 2. you saw a clip of a Magik with optimal exact movement and perfect combo (which you barely get to pull off due to insane healing from Mantis etc) against a poorly coordinated team. They nerfed her hard from the beta. Her shields used to be her big thing. But mainly it's just the Hawk.Hela matchup that is the issue for her.
I like the team up abilities. But Magneto is probably the one I'd say who goes from really bad to really good simply by giving him that extra ability. I'd say he's low b/c without and a+/s with it
Rocket should be A people just don’t know how to use him. He got elite movement with his passive and his jet back so he’s hard to kill. He can rez with his armor pack drone every 45 seconds which is great in getting your team back into the fight instantly especially if yall lose a tank and the other team makes an advance . His ult is also really good great damage boost for team fights and keeping the enemy team back. He’s more support than super healer as his heals are fairly slow but he has great utility.
Nobody understands storm and Loki I swear I dominate lobbies with them, ofc I have games where they feel kinda useless but how I play them vs everyone else is so much different.
Cloak and Dagger is definitely an S they have so much hidden tech and playmaking potential that I feel once the playerbase gets used to them more they’ll grow alot stronger
I’m 20 mins late😢 but Thor need to be able to hover, Strange should never need to reload bro use magic not a gun same with groot and Spider-Man they don’t use guns. Magik is high A bc she has the highest Melee damage in the game if u good with her and can dive she is low S
@ShogunWay Yeah... his comics appearances have had the web shooters for 99% of his publication. Minus the weird point where he met a spider-god while trapped in a web cacoon to get organic webs to match the movies... that was weird
@@Grunk369 The only reason to pick Adam is if you already have strong consistent heal on the team, and you just want to snipe some flying heros that annoy you. His limited healing is extremely clumsy and if team fight drags out, he becomes useless. He has no escape if he focused, yes he can heal himself but then he has nothing to help his team with. His ult can be good, but very situational.
Everyone’s S tier list is damn near the same but I disagree with strange being S tier. I’d say no tank is S tier, S tier is reserved for high ceiling characters who can 1v9. A rank is for solid picks and easy to learn. B rank are for characters who could pop off if someone skilled used them but usually they’re okay. C should be the cut off but I guess D is unplayable. Nobody is D rank, some C’s, most characters would be A-B with few characters like psylocke or moon knight being S. ( before anyone says moon knight isn’t S ranked, I’ve solo climbed to gold 1, 1 game away from plat with only moon knight. You don’t need to ONLY hit the anhks, the basic attack bounces off targets and promise you, they line up very often, hold the anhk for anyone who pushes you or those Hawkeye/Hela/Natasha’s lurking so you can cheese em)
The main thing about cloak and dagger for me is the auto aim on healing which mean I don’t need to aim to heal people I can just look at people to heal them like today I literally got 30k healing in ranked because of it
Calling captain America good is insane 😭 he sucks at dive and he sucks at brawl. His shield don’t even cover his whole body 😭. His cooldowns are just movement tools and they’re on 12 second timers, like ??? This is maybe the strangest tierlist I’ve seen from someone I respect.
I disagree I think he is slept on heavy I'm not an expert or OW player but imma straight bully with Cap not trying to convince u tho kinda like ppl underestimating him and not picking him plays to my advantage but yea don't sleep on him I think all the characters r good n the right hands
Not really. I main hulk and he’s very high skill and effort while still being worse than strange. I have like 15 hours on hulk and 5 on strange and strange is still easier to carry with
He is hard I’m not gonna lie but with good team synergy idk feels different, it’s kinda like a Winston it’s more about the game sense with that character, I was a Winston main and it’s translating really well here
I not trying to be mean when I say this but moonknight is devastating against flankers. The moment you get flanked or dived that’s when you use your ank, there’s no reason you should be waisting such a valuable cooldown on anything other than flankers
Currently Im trying to get good with at least two heroes per class. The ones Im most Interested in are Psylocke and Magik for duelist. Peni Parker and Venom for Vanguard. Mantis and Luna Snow for Strategist.
@@spencersimons2816nice. Its always good to at least know how to be good at multiple character instead of mastering one and then being trash with every other one when you can’t pick your main.
I'm a diehard Magik main she's my only duelist, except Hela when the other team has a Hela/Hawkeye because unfortunately that's the current situation. Thor and Hulk are my go to Vanguard, and Luna snow is by FAR my favourite Strategist
Hulk shouldn't throw wolverine at the enemy. He should throw him behind the enemies or to the left or right flank. so wolverine can come come up on them unnoticed and take them out.
For anyone who doesn't know, if you look straight up when throwing him, he hits the sky box and can stay up there for a long time
Wolverine's hero select animation looks like he is aggressively crapping his pants.
I just throw him off the map so he knows I don’t want him around me
@@VoxNerdula😂
Doesnt mather if Hulk throws him or not, Wolverine end up throwing himself just by selecting the hero.
Loki is so powerful, the rune can negate almost every ultimate and the damage/healing is not bad at all. Plus the ability to select the ultimate that would be most impactful for any given situation
He’s very powerful I agree but he’s just like peni or namor where once the players know to destroy his clones and runes he loses a lot of value
@0li-0li28 personally, the distraction of shooting the clones out ways the cool down on them and whenever they're getting destroyed too fast it's either bad placement or they have a FREAKING MOON KNIGHT.
The crystals can be deceptively bulky for some heroes (melee heroes have fun LOL), and remembering that the domain lasts 5s with a 25s CD (starting on cast, 20s downtime) helps with maximizing his value. Decoys having the ability to distract fire as well as set up for damage/healing is quite good, and there's tons of utility for the swap.
One of my games had a Thor on the enemy team, so as a playmaker decision I placed a decoy behind the backline, swapped with it, copied Thor, and immediately deleted 3 people with Thor ult because I knew they didn't have a counter ready.
Loki is easily my favorite strategist and will only get better over time as people improve his gameplay and CD management. And I already think he's top 3 in role.
So wrong with loki. He has unparalleled utility with regen domain because it counters all damage. He has some of the best survivability and THE best ult in the game. Scarlet ult? Get in the green circle. Ironman ult? The green circle. Punisher ult? Yep, you guessed it, circulo verde.
He definitely is underrated. it's crazy he has THREE ways to avoid getting picked off by a dive which i find essential with every lobby having a Psylocke. The issue with him though is that unless he has a good clone setup those healing runes are his only form of good burst healing and with the long cooldown you can find yourself not having it when you need it.
Well, emongg doesn’t actually have the ability to aim so take the list with a a grain of salt. A lot of those characters are better if you can actually play an fps.
Note how the only melee character he doesn’t rate highly is wolverine. And he admits he has no idea how to play the character.
I never thought to do that obviously that’s what you should do I’m dumb
@@zacharyjackson1829 the point of clone set up you made is very true and that is where the real skill comes in. Being able to know where those clones should go, if one or both are gone and when to use regen domain is what separates the mediocre from the formidable. It is what keeps him balanced and able to be countered. So many times I have saved half our team with the green circle only for something like Wanda to nearly team wipe. At a basic level, ult counters ult and ability counters ability but in Loki's case ability counters everything (except Jeff) so it is balanced by its biggest strength: its versatility. It can be used in just about every situation to save an entire team but if used too soon (even if used very well) it won't be available for something bigger.
That Spanish made me LOL
Another thing jeff is really good for is measuring how good your team is. If your jeff the land shark has the highest kd ratio, you're cooked.
Moonknight downplaying is unreal
moonknight has the issue that peni has and is if people know to target your akhn or just stand away from each other he's just a worse dps than most other heros
@@Brzzzyexe even without akhn his dps is high so his spamming is still good enough to make him at least A tier
Doesn't His aknh still bounce off heroes, and people are still gonna group up
@@Brzzzyexe Ankh is turbo overrated, if you can aim you should just be clicking on heads and using the ankh for a range extender to dps enemies that are spread apart or to get around shields. Ankh being down matters less than players think
@@citrinecrimeat that point just play Hela
13:45 Widow feels balanced bc she doesnt have the 20 percent seasonal damage boost that Hela and Hawkeye have. Otherwise she could one shot.
More webs with Peni do not increase the healing. It heals the same speed/amount regardless how many webs shes standing on/near. What the webs also do is provide a path for the spider mines when the nest has been setup. That aside I agree with you. Shes very strong on defense and can have some issues on attack.
I really like namor penny Loki groot on defense.
Really strong turret type bunker down hold forever
I'm like 90% sure the spider nest web and your regular cyber web attack are counted as separate from each other, though. If you stack a bunch of regular webs then you're right, it doesn't increase the heal speed, but if you stack a regular web on top of the spider nest web, the healing speed increases
Peni has no issue with being aggressive. The web zip has a low cool down and the spider nest has a 15 second cool down. She doesn't have a reload on her main and you can launch the mines like grenades. Best tank in the game
“Didn’t know so many people were playing this game” homie, MR has ECLIPSED overwatch 😂
Because it's new
@@georgehernandez2156 Marvel Rivals had 400k current players when overwatch had 20k 😂
@@JZillaGamin For the first 5 months of 2023, the average monthly player count was 25,104, 644 for OW2 lmao
@@nikolai2418 according to steamcharts, OW2’s peak player count was 75,361. In the 11 days that Marvel Rivals has been officially released, they have a peak player count of 418,832. With the 24 hour peak being a little over 400,000, the game will have over 10,000,000 players in the first 25 days of being released (assuming the 24 hour peak stays around 400,000).
@@JZillaGamingive it a 8 months and rivals will level back out, I love the game but it's a trend for the time being
Namor in B feels criminal after seeing what he can really do. I would have said low A tier. Everything else seems agreeable. Good list!
I was gonna say that. Namot is actually really good his octos are good his damage is good you can dodge ults
Namor is honestly a solid A, the only reason we haven't seen many good Namor players is because he's fairly boring to play compared to the rest of the roster, his kit is great but not exciting
I’ve been playing Namor a lot lately and he’s insane. Good ranged damage, turrets for flankers, can escape and be invincible for a little to get healed, and a damaging ult that also stuns
In the top 500 he’s a top 10 played hero no lie
@@spacejesus6581 Yeah he doesn't have as much variety as most others but just throwing the tridents feels extremely good imo.
Tried Iron man yesterday after avoiding him because of tier lists and boy did i LOVE him. by my second match i was already pulling off a sick 5 man ult.
where people mess up with Iron Man is they dont use natural cover enough and become too predictable. you should herass with him similar to Spiderman and should always try to be at a slight off angle from your team ideally near a health pack so you can truly make it hard for the enemy team to focus you over your team on objective. get used to peaking around a specific corner but take a different angle once that enemy hawkeye or Punisher catches on.
that’s cool until the spiderman comes at me from the other side of the map at mach jesus and one shots me with the venom combo😭
All that to get two tapped by hela
Use the chest beam for close range! 🎉@@nonipplenoah6179
Agreed, hes amazing
He’s good in low ranks
the issue with rocket is that if you have oblivious teamates he's borderline unplayable
You think so? I think that’s what he helps the most with his rez and his dash to get to them quick when they are straggling off
@cody_tyra mo burst healing makes it to where if you're solo or people just keep walking up they'll doe very quickly
Hulk needs to throw wolverine at the enemy tank, not many people realized this but wolverine does a percentage of damage not a flat number, he’s a tank shredder but struggles against characters with lower hp, Wolverine is pretty strong but you’ve got to be patient, wait for the enemy tank to make a mistake then kidnap him and kill him in a one v one
I'd argue that it's best if hulk throws wolverine slightly *behind* the enemy tank to set him up to kidnap the tank into your team. It's like a 2-man hook that is *way* harder to miss.
You right, that’s a good point
Hulk throwing wolverine can also be used to help wolverines mobility. Just throw him as far as you can to help him cover ground.
You shouldn't need another character on the team to be viable
Cloak and Dagger are S Tier if the player knows what they’re doing, but they can be really bad if the person is clueless. A great player playing Cloak and Dagger is so hard to kill, and Tanks are basically immortal with their healing output. So fun to play.
I think a good summary for Starlord would be “He’s feast or famine, except when he uses his ultimate then it’s always feast”
i feel cloak and dagger in a good players hand is an s tier because of the utilities, being able to counter almost every meta characters ultimate with cloak utilities makes him better than Luna, but Luna ultimate is better than everyone else's in the game.
Rocket can group heal from a distance and around corners and the revive is clutch. His dash to self peel, anything less than A is criminal.
Every other supp is just better tho
peni is insane on defence (convergance mainly) you can solo carry if you know how to set up sites
Feels bad for Scarlet. I enjoyed her a lot in the beta, but her left click is a squirt-gun; and that's with a 15% seasonal damage boost. Once that boost is rotated out, it'll be as if the enemy is getting tickled with a feather. Hope she gets a slight numbers buff to her kit.
She is one of the most mindless heroes in the game bruh you’ll be getting nerfs most likely😂 most people hate her
@koopa6_412 Sometimes after playing Psylocke and Punisher, I just wanna chill on Scarlet. Hope they don't listen to the mass playerbase complaining about her ult lol.
They could buff her right click. Now it does like 30 damage and that’s just a very small amount. Also her E ability is very weird, it seems like they wanted to somehow differentiate it from Hela’s CC ability, but in return it turned out to be weak and unresponsive. Maybe something can be done there. Otherwise, there isn’t really anything you can do with her, she’s just way too easy of a character to truly think about seriously buffing her numbers.
Good. You shouldn't be rewarded for not being able to aim.
They worded seasonal boost awfully, the icon and seasonal boost is on characters who in team ups dont get anything but a numbers change (scarlet witch venom etc) so that dmg boost is only when paired with magneto
I love Scarlet but I know youre right. Climbing through the ranks she is getting harder and harder as people are learning more. Its only a matter of time before shes bad in pubs as well.
Problem is, there isnt much they can do to buff her without making her overpowered, so im not sure what theyre going to do
Buffing her projectile dmg and recharge speed could make her be more dependent on those + speed and radius of her time stop orb give her more power outside of her primary suck to incentivize aiming and area denial tbh
Play with a storm player and enjoy having a true one shot on headshot
These list are all getting pretty close very fast. I would put Peni, Loki and Moon Knight in A Tier but otherwise this is another great list. (Jeff's A Tier btw, probably fourth best of the strategists and Loki and Jeff are close). mL7s list is the best I've seen so far.
Namor is really slept on, he has the same damage output as hela and his turrents are insane especially with the luna team up. His mobility is bad and survivability is ok but he's definitely like low A
Seeing Bucky in S tier on another tier list: AGAIN 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
All these tier lists seem to be based on one playstyle and no strategy. As of right now, I don't see any hero being objectively better than another. It all comes down to how YOU use that hero. Any hero can be S tier in the right hands.
You can use that argument with anything in games if you want. I’ve seen people one trick themselves into Grandmaster with junkrat. So in the right hands any character at any time can be good. But most tier list take into account most players and playstyles.
There is no way scarlet is an S rank hero, definitely as you climb. In general it takes a lot more to get so much less out of her than Hela who’s hitscan and can two tap.
Objectively wrong
@@SciPhi161 low IQ energy
Namor has got to be the most underrated hero in the game. I see everyone putting him in b tier because they never give him a chance. He’s a complete game wrecker whenever I play him. Especially when teamed with Luna
Lol i also feel like im playing reload simulator with dr strange. maybe if you get some ammo back from blocking damage it would feel a little better but there’s so many awkward situations where you’re trying to reload but need to constantly cancel it to shield for your team
Every time Strange reloads I feel like he’s checking timelines for the one solution.😂
Idk if it actually is but Strange’s reload feels like it’s the longest one in the game which feels awful when you need to interrupt it to shield
18:55 FUN FACT, LUNA SNOW CAN STOP ANY ULT, IF SHE FREEZES THEM.
Pretty solid list from a solo gold level player. I do think the brawl comp characters are better than we realize, we just havent figured them out yet
I feel like people will be calling for hulk nerfs once people get better with his movement
Namor is so fucking op bro. I’ve been loving his kit, he just sits in the back with his turrets taking enemies out. Especially when you team him up with Luna you got 3 turrets now. Plus his ultimate is crazy. When used correctly it’s almost instant. I just kinda wish they would rework his bubble ability to make him fly. In most cases when you use that ability, you’re dead if the enemy had really good aim or to a BP lol.
Nah a good team will destroy his turrets and there goes a lot of his dps. His turrets are good for flankers i guess, but then he is just another left click dps and there are better picks
"oh iron man is killing us. I'll just play hela and take care of the problem."
TBH I’d rather fight a Hela as ironman vs spiderman. A good hela is killing everyone anyway and a ironman out in the open is an idiot. You can easily keep a hela at bay by shooting repulsors by her cover. That spiderman tho like a fucking annoying bug.
Hear me out on cloak and dagger. No other character eats ults with a regular ability the way they do. You can literally shroud your whole team from just about ANY ultimate if you time your cloak right click right. Thats not even their ult. I think that alone makes them s tier.
Magneto is easily the best tank. He has a great ult, his team up is insane, and he has two ways to shield himself and teammates.
Great Ult until you throw it into a captain America and then suddenly you really know if it's good or not when it hits you in the face 😂
Cloak and Dagger gives me that fix from when I used to play Hel in Smite and Disc Priest in WoW. It is such a fun playstyle.
I feel like peni is very underrated. She can use traps, has great mobility, can heal herself. Also u can cancel almost every ult with her web
As a storm main, i love the character, but man, she sucks. It's too easy to get hit out of the air and does like no damage for how hard it is to play her well. Ult is pretty busted though.
They also secret nerfed her dmg from 65 to 50 from alpha to live
Cloak and dagger so goodddd they did such a good job with them awesome awesome amazing but my question is why is star lord so high? Lol
If you watch some top 500 players play star lord you will see why he’s so good, his ultimate is an instant delete button and once you master his movement and pace of play he’s very strong. Think of him like Tracer but on CRACK 😂
@@BrrxdleyI don’t know who’s idea it was to give Tracer the ability to fly and activate tactical visor but that person is a menace to society 😂
@@ARUclipsUser1 Yeah fr, when I first tested him out in training I was like “wtf they gave him soldiers ult on top of everything he already has” lol
why is Star lord so high? dude he's a tracer with more aim forgiveness, an ability that has multiple charges that reloads and gives you mobility, endless mobility with his boots, and an ult that literally gives him aim assist that also benefits from his dash reloads. why would he NOT be A?
“It’s Jeff the damn land shark” emongg 2024
Iron Man in C is criminal. With good positioning and game sense, he is a very strong hero. He can hold down choke points better than many other heros because of his splash damage, and his damage range is rediculous. Being able to instantly team wipe with his ultimate in the right hands also makes him very useful in any mode that involves holding a point.
I'm cool with people underestimating him. Iron Man in the hands of a non-braindead player (who actually uses cover, unpredictable angles, preemptively repositions, etc.) is super deadly, but the perception of him being bad comes from the fact that 90% Iron Mans simply don't play that way.
Realistically, MOST Iron Mans you see in game are C/D tier level threats at best (If you just hover above the fight in plain view of everybody, yes you're going to die. Simple as.) But when you do run into the rare one that knows what he's doing it becomes super oppressive to play against.
This list is the wildest I've seen so far
Lunas does last long enough? It’s a 12 second zen ult
Hulk is amazing with Jeff bubbles cos the movement speed lets u close distance quick when u don't wana jump
how dare he put loki in B he's A 100%
This is actually a pretty good tier list, though I lean more towards wolverine in B tier but needs a lot of game sense.
Preach brother! No disrespecting Jeff the Landshark! Best boi isn't S tier simply because he doesn't want to be, lol. (I'd say top of B)
Hate having a main in S tier but in this case my mains in B😂 W LIST
Same 😂
as a magik main 13/33 characters counter her. those character happen to be punisher, winter soldier, wolverine, scarlet witch, starlord, storm, iron man, penni, moon knight, cloak and dagger, ironfist, hela, and hawkeye. almost every game as a magik main ur gonna have to deal with being 1 tapped or almost 1 tapped.
Skill issue ngl to you lil bro
It’s a skill issue gng especially if u think scarlet witch and star lord even remotely counter magik
@ ik how to deal with her but usaully it takes 2 since that auto targeting beam will kill me before i get in range unless i use the dash which could work if she doesn't go invisible and distance her self if so than i die. tldr if a scarlet witch main know what there abilities are and do she is a counter since magik cant get colse.
I can deal with all of those. I'm a high ranked Magik main. But when they go Hela I have to switch off unfortunately. I feel like people think Magik is way better than she actually is because 1. she stomps noobs in quickplay or 2. you saw a clip of a Magik with optimal exact movement and perfect combo (which you barely get to pull off due to insane healing from Mantis etc) against a poorly coordinated team. They nerfed her hard from the beta. Her shields used to be her big thing. But mainly it's just the Hawk.Hela matchup that is the issue for her.
@@phantomflame0658 that is true. the only hard counters is hela and hawkeye
I like the team up abilities. But Magneto is probably the one I'd say who goes from really bad to really good simply by giving him that extra ability. I'd say he's low b/c without and a+/s with it
Rocket should be A people just don’t know how to use him. He got elite movement with his passive and his jet back so he’s hard to kill. He can rez with his armor pack drone every 45 seconds which is great in getting your team back into the fight instantly especially if yall lose a tank and the other team makes an advance . His ult is also really good great damage boost for team fights and keeping the enemy team back. He’s more support than super healer as his heals are fairly slow but he has great utility.
Nobody understands storm and Loki I swear I dominate lobbies with them, ofc I have games where they feel kinda useless but how I play them vs everyone else is so much different.
Cloak and Dagger is definitely an S they have so much hidden tech and playmaking potential that I feel once the playerbase gets used to them more they’ll grow alot stronger
next tier list should have separate icons for hero’s on their own/hero’s with certain teamups active
This is a really solid list!
I’m 20 mins late😢 but Thor need to be able to hover, Strange should never need to reload bro use magic not a gun same with groot and Spider-Man they don’t use guns. Magik is high A bc she has the highest Melee damage in the game if u good with her and can dive she is low S
I think Spidey reloading makes sense in terms of gameplay, and it's in character since he has to refill his web cartridges in his web shooters
@ maybe if there going with that version, if I’m use to the version where it’s organic
@ShogunWay Yeah... his comics appearances have had the web shooters for 99% of his publication. Minus the weird point where he met a spider-god while trapped in a web cacoon to get organic webs to match the movies... that was weird
@ not 99% more like 75% I
Read a lot of marvel and dc
@ not even including amps or power ups
I love Cloak and Dagger so much. She reminds me of Hel from Smite.
Cap definitely goes up a tier when paired with Thor.
Prediction, Jeff the shark S tier
I was wrong
Jeff is good but people are definitely overreacting on how strong he is imo.
I love taking storm vs backend flankers. Shes a great zone control hero
The Adam Warlock disrespect is real
Can say with confidence that storm is the worst dps & Loki is worst healer.
i ll have Loki on my team any day over Adam or Rocket. Lokis rune is insane, he so hard to catch, he has good dmg and his ult is busted.
Rocket is worse than Loki. Loki just has a higher skill ceiling
@@THE_BROK3Nrocket yeah but Adam is a very good healer
@@Grunk369 The only reason to pick Adam is if you already have strong consistent heal on the team, and you just want to snipe some flying heros that annoy you. His limited healing is extremely clumsy and if team fight drags out, he becomes useless. He has no escape if he focused, yes he can heal himself but then he has nothing to help his team with. His ult can be good, but very situational.
@@THE_BROK3Nover Adam? Oh hell nah
Just picked up the game and im a Cloak and Dagger main glad to see that their in S-tier lol
storm is definitely better than iron man, storm at least brings team support with either speed boost or damage boost aura. Iron man brings nothing
Everyone’s S tier list is damn near the same but I disagree with strange being S tier. I’d say no tank is S tier, S tier is reserved for high ceiling characters who can 1v9. A rank is for solid picks and easy to learn. B rank are for characters who could pop off if someone skilled used them but usually they’re okay.
C should be the cut off but I guess D is unplayable. Nobody is D rank, some C’s, most characters would be A-B with few characters like psylocke or moon knight being S. ( before anyone says moon knight isn’t S ranked, I’ve solo climbed to gold 1, 1 game away from plat with only moon knight. You don’t need to ONLY hit the anhks, the basic attack bounces off targets and promise you, they line up very often, hold the anhk for anyone who pushes you or those Hawkeye/Hela/Natasha’s lurking so you can cheese em)
The main thing about cloak and dagger for me is the auto aim on healing which mean I don’t need to aim to heal people I can just look at people to heal them like today I literally got 30k healing in ranked because of it
Magik main here, potential S tier pick in the right hands but because flyers exist I can settle w A tier
Storm in D tier is a damn crime
Calling captain America good is insane 😭 he sucks at dive and he sucks at brawl. His shield don’t even cover his whole body 😭. His cooldowns are just movement tools and they’re on 12 second timers, like ??? This is maybe the strangest tierlist I’ve seen from someone I respect.
I disagree I think he is slept on heavy I'm not an expert or OW player but imma straight bully with Cap not trying to convince u tho kinda like ppl underestimating him and not picking him plays to my advantage but yea don't sleep on him I think all the characters r good n the right hands
@@BlvckFox420bro his shield toss does 20 damage. He sucks.
Ppl sleep on Namor so much
The squirrel girl Spider-Man team up is under rated she goes to easy A-S tier. In my opinion.
You’re wrong about namor. He can be high a or s tier if you play him right. He does a crazy amount of damage as well.
Peni just need a good healer
Honestly hulk a bit underrated
Not really. I main hulk and he’s very high skill and effort while still being worse than strange. I have like 15 hours on hulk and 5 on strange and strange is still easier to carry with
hulk sucks u gotta be close to do anything and the entire team just focuses on you lmao
He is hard I’m not gonna lie but with good team synergy idk feels different, it’s kinda like a Winston it’s more about the game sense with that character, I was a Winston main and it’s translating really well here
I not trying to be mean when I say this but moonknight is devastating against flankers. The moment you get flanked or dived that’s when you use your ank, there’s no reason you should be waisting such a valuable cooldown on anything other than flankers
As a namor main he is easily A tier
As a iron man main and seeing iron man being C/D and even F tier is just so sad
He’s been kicking my butt the whole time when he’s on the enemy team
Magik is good but outclassed by Panther and Moon Knight at VERY least
Hulk makes iron man OP in low ranks.
I’ve have been playing a crap ton of namor and I think he is incredibly fun but people underrate his damage I feel like he should be high b tier
Currently Im trying to get good with at least two heroes per class. The ones Im most Interested in are Psylocke and Magik for duelist. Peni Parker and Venom for Vanguard. Mantis and Luna Snow for Strategist.
I’m doing something similar. Right now I have Magneto and Groot, Magick and Winter Soldier, and Cloak/Dagger and Loki
@@spencersimons2816nice. Its always good to at least know how to be good at multiple character instead of mastering one and then being trash with every other one when you can’t pick your main.
Peni is better for more OTP purposes. she doesnt fill well. I'd recommend Magneto if fill is more of your playstyle. you do you though
I'm a diehard Magik main she's my only duelist, except Hela when the other team has a Hela/Hawkeye because unfortunately that's the current situation. Thor and Hulk are my go to Vanguard, and Luna snow is by FAR my favourite Strategist
@@MelonBoi Especially if your main is a damage hero which most people want to play
Me with 8 hours just on Scarlett witch 😂
Thank you for doing that, for my goat Jeff ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Namor in B is criminal
Everyone’s underestimating Hulk.
His movement is just unitiuitive and needs time to develop
All heroes are OP. Therefore all heroes are balanced. I'm tired of the discussions. You can get good with all the heroes with experience.
I was really surprised with the first half of Hela, I have played 4 hours of her, and maybe 2 min of other heros. Great utility, way too much damage.
Puts Captain in A? Immediately know this is a dogshite teir list
It’s hilarious because the heroes that kill me the most you all put low 😂
How the hell do you spell sylock but she needs a lot a LOT of timing
Psylocke
i know the game just dropped recently but holy it does not feel good to have an aoe sleep on a character with kiri headshots
Iron Man is decent if he has a Mantis force feeding him heals and Nano boosts
Hulk is soooooo slept on i dominate lobbies with him
His movement is just weird. Way less intuitive than winston
@ its clunky for sure i hate holding space bar the entire match
this is an absolutely insane take saying star lord is A teir and Moon night is B teir 😂 Carzy work saying iron man is better than witch
A reminder to shoot Moon Knights ankhs please
I've just realized not a lot of people playing the black characters?
definitely disagree with dr strange placement, he isnt one tier higher than magneto or groot
Ironfist in A tier 😂 bros gonna regret that ranking soon when he realizes Ironfist is arguably the only dps as bad as Storm 😂
Black Panther is S-tier if you know how to use him
I never see anyone use Magneto
I saw a winter soldier get like 10 kills with 1 ultimate today 😂 dumb ass Adam Warlock
If you think Hulk is C tier ITS because you playing wrong. I use to think he was hulk from MCU LOL.
He listed almost every specialist as S tier and above… which makes 0 sense