So he takes the car, signs the rental contract, causes $20,000 damage and dumps the car on the opposite side of the country and wants his money back....what a parasite.
100% that's how the guy operates in everything he does. His plan from the beginning was to come up with a way to avoid paying... the a/c problem and the complaints were all lie's meant to set the stage for a refund. If a company doesn't play ball , he files a suit and they get scared and settle outside of court. It's a textbook Con Artist , the kind that doesn't care who he screws over. If he somehow got exposed for everything he's done , he'd spend the rest of this life in a "gated" community , I'd put money on it.
I think it was a she with loads of dosh but didn’t know how to drive. Bet you it’s a she, he mentioned but didn’t stress it for frAr of. New law suit on gender discrimination, if we say that marginally bitches can’t drive in general nor operate the air conditioning for the specifics.
I don't understand how your legal fees don't get reimbursed if you win. These frivolous lawsuits essentially destroy you if don't have the funds to defend yourself.
in the uk he could have let the suit progress and prepare to declare bankruptcy and close the company if the other person won, costs you a lot less than legal fees. you then reopen the company with a different director and after 7 years your'e no longer bankrupt and everything is back to normal. the idiot who files the suit gets zero since the company is insolvent.
If you look at the bill carefully, it seems like he paid for the car (~$50k), but didn't want to pay for the $60k "loss of use" that Spaghetti charged him for the broken key turnaround etc. So take Spaghetti's word with a huge grain of salt before passing judgement.
@@Badassing It may or may not fair depending on specific circumstances. For example, did the customer break the key or was the key from a finicky exotic prone to breaking and customer was just the last to touch it. I don't know the details, but everyone can see that Rob isn't exactly forthright about what the dispute with the renter is over, which might suggest he's not forthright about the rest.
The guy who filed the suit made 470 accounts and disliked this video on each one. Watch out, Rob, he is now going to file a Lawsuit because you made this video
Gumball is ruined by little rich children that look and act like complete fools. The gumball videos are more about their Jersey Shore life style and nothing about the actual race and cars.
Ikr all they do is show off they are rich by annoying ever other road users. Some think its cool yet when a pack of them just blatly run red lights and stop signs so they can be ina group etc
It's incredible you've made a channel where you pretty much just talk while sitting down. It's actually insane how good of a presenter/speaker you are.
Its easy to disable major components (or anything else) in any rental car.. Risk you take when renting out anything, especially exotics. People are truly shit, Spaghetti should submit links/names for these douche bags so others can be aware.
I think he included a few clips of the vehicle in the Gumball if you felt like it you couple figure it out. You know what type of vehicle, which Gumball, and the guy is from the UK.
If you look at the bill carefully, it seems like he paid for the car (~$50k), but didn't want to pay for the $60k "loss of use" that Spaghetti charged him for the broken key. So take Spaghetti's word with a huge grain of salt.
@@iyaz15 May be common sense but the more people know about it the better. May even get manufacturers like Ferrari to stop price gouging and preying on the wealthy who don't know any better.. But what do I care lol I can't afford one anyway.
Part numbers and google. It’s that simple. Buy the absolute cheapest part you find, they’re all made in the same exact place. Autozone $220 for a starter, $18 online.
Here if you get sued and you win, the company / person that sued you have to pay for all your expenses. Amazing law to prevent shitheads to sue others for no real reason
My family member is a lawyer and he said pretty much all lawyers " We only will take the case if its easy to prove and pays well, we dont care about anything else nor your issue." That's why pretty much all lawyers for accidents only accept you if you are injured because that's big $$ its even in the ads " injuried?"
Yep they are scum, i got taken advantage of big time in a motor vehicle wreck. I knew nothing then. Most Lawyers are scum aside from public defenders and the rsre few good hearted ones
Do you think you will ever recover the excess on the damage from the dude. I am guessing since he is in the UK, it might not be worth it unless he has some assets in the US. What a bunch of bull from this dude and other rascals attorneys who try to pull this hogwash. ugh! BTW, Happy Anniversary!
On principle it may be worth the trouble. Speaking on the UK I once had a British room mate and lived near a British pub. One night when a soccer (football) match was on he comes tearing in looking for the jersey of a player that had been traded from the opponents team to his. Thinking it was Arsenal vs Man U. I was curious why he was so fired up. Was told It's politics, it's political mate!! Laughed my ass off. Funny thing is he got trashed at the game and the other teams fans gave his drunk a@@ a ride home. This was in Texas.
Lawyers are modern day legal mafia, it is the reason why this country has been growing at a snails pace. I stopped expanding my business and hiring more employees due to the legal system. Instead of giving amazing service and always doing the right thing I now second guess everything I do because of potential liability. The scum of this planet.
Hope they all get cancer. It's not the lawyers its who evers allowing this bullshit to get to courts; it needs to be torn down. Watch law abiding citizen. It's the only movie you root for the bad guy,.
7:03 *I LOVE IT, the invoice charges $32,500 for lambo rental & the support technician rental car was $90, lol.* That was the cheapest chrg on the involve.
Right? I am blown away that this phrase is literally illegal in New Jersey... The United States has some hardcore douchebag we're all Donald trumps somebody nuke us already I'll sacrifice myself as long as it takes some of these asshats surrounding me out too kind of laws that make you hope whoever brought it into fruition spends one or two eternities in hell getting punched in the face by Mike Tyson in his prime. Wow.. Everyone feel free to say "umad bro?" to me.. I just raged.
Too bad most of Congress are lawyers and they would never vote for tort reform and have the type of system that are British counterparts have, loser pays. That would get rid of all frivolous lawsuits
George Mulligan I was looking for a comment on this as I was confused as to why he was bummed about the 140k. In Australia the loser pays winners legal fees, thought that would’ve been the same in the states.
Over 500 class action lawyers thumbs downed the video. I’m glad you won your case, you should be also be compensated for your legal defense of the frivolous lawsuit.
There is a class action lawyer who lives in my town in Canada 🇨🇦 who is suing McDonalds because they are making kids ask you to buy happy meals and making you buy your kids happy meals
@@SinisterRubberDuckie Probably some rule against saying no to a kid. Might severely traumatize the poor kid and they would be scarred for life. Like how a parent cant apply a belt to a backside when needed. And a bar of soap in a dirty mouth is right out.
I'm British born and bred and embarrassed at the guy who rented from you Rob. We're not all like that in the UK. Most are hard working and genuine .Just the elite that think there part time gods. Glad you came through ok and cleared your name.
Not sure about a countersuit being cost effective. Typically when a judge issues a ruling , there will be an order to pay the legal fees of the successful defender of a losing suit .
The reason he had to pay for legal fees is because he lost the suit. I'm pretty sure the guy settled for a full refund plus legal fees. Rich people can get annoying when they want their money back. The have the time and money to make you miserable. I think Rob could sense this and was trying to pad the invoice. Can't see how that worked in his favor.
I thought the way the law was I could be wrong correct me if I am but I thought the loser of a lawsuit has to pay the winners legal fees. If not you can file for legal fees And the judge should be able to say you need to pay this man’s legal fees. but if I’m wrong please let me know. And by the way happy anniversary to you and your wife hope you have a good night
That is the British system. That's why there are so many frivolous lawsuits in the US and unfortunately most of Congress are lawyers that's why tort reform bills have never been able to pass
I believe that (legal fees paid by loser) is only for civil lawsuits, class actions can be a lot more complicated due tot he inclusion of many people. Maybe, just sue the law-firm that brought the suit.
pdavid24 I gotcha I just thought that the The attorney will go after the Plaintiff for the amount to cover the fees of his part of the case and usually you can file that with the course . Does the plaintiff in this case which was the loser also have to pay the court costs be in a class action?
In general, no. In America, each party pays their own way (it's called the American rule). That being said, it depends largely on state or federal laws pertaining to the case, as well as the judge's discretion. I'm guessing the judge thought it fair for Gotham and the other defendants to have paid for their defense, given the "relatively low" cost. It might be possible to sue for damages after the fact, but in general, it's not worth it given that you would incur further legal fees in trying to do so. Generally the case has to be pretty frivolous or a matter of public interest (a case given was a California citizen suing his local city rightfully claiming that the construction they planned would cause large environmental impact, flooding, etc) for a judge to either be required or to choose to grant the defendant some sort of recovery of legal fees.
Good ol legal system, allow frivilous suites to exist in the first place. These damn attorney's that start these types of suites should all loose their licenses, repay for damages and automatic jail time.
I had someone rent my Airbnb and they sprayed/poured 76 bottles of champagne over every inch of the apartment. They were in town for New Years. The hardwood floors had to be ripped out and replaced, same with the kitchen cabinets. Plus the place needed to get repainted and all of the furniture replaced/dee cleaned. The bill was a bit over $50,000 for everything. His argument the whole time was that the spilled champagne was covered by my $50 cleaning fee. Airbnb paid out after 6months of fighting but that was my last Airbnb experience.
How do you know they sprayed all 76 bottles? Also replacing the floor from champagne being on it is a bit excessive. Proper flooring can withstand being wet for a few days. Charging for the paint would of been reasonable
@@geewoods6590 They had left all of the bottles on the floor laid out everywhere and every surface of the apartment was drenched. And no hardwood floors are not designed to be soaked especially not in a sugary liquid. To put it into perspective in order to walk in the apartment you needed to consciously lift your feet because it was so sticky. So you can give them the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they drank some of the champagne but even if they did, a vast majority of it ended up on the floors, walls, ceiling, cabinets, in the pool table, or in the sofas and beds. And considering that they only had like 20-25 people over (we had cameras watching them go in and out) I doubt that 20 people could drink 76 bottles of champagne and a handful of other liquors and beers. People can drink a lot but the bottle to person ratio was extremely high. I would have to look back to see how many of the other types of empty drink there were but I remember there were something like 40~ beer cans/bottles empty and 7-10 other liquor bottles. So yes they might have drank some of the champagne but based on how many other drinks where consumed at the party I doubt it was very much. And yes we counted and photographed all of the empty bottles tossed all over the apartment we had to for our report. And trust me I did not want to replace the floors but I did not have an option the champagne had gotten underneath large sections of the flooring and seeped into every crack and crevice and it would have attracted ants and other critters on top of the actual damage to the floors. When the floor was ripped out we found multiple pools of champagne under the floors. Sure the floors would survive in theory. But eventually the damage would catch up if it was from the "water" damage or the insects that would come from far and wide to feast on the puddles of sugar water waiting for them. It might seem like overkill but it really wasn't, the damage was pretty serious. The floors were only a few years old and I loved them, replacing them was a huge pain in the ass and I prefer my old floors, and the compensation never covers all of the time and energy I put into it.
@@PlayCenterShop It was a lot of waiting and changing who I am supposed to speak with. The first few weeks were waiting for the guest to offer to pay. Obviously they had no intention of paying they offered to replace the felt on my pool table everything else they felt was covered by my $50 cleaning fee. After they refused to pay I needed to get 3 different police reports each person at Airbnb I spoke with claimed that I needed a different one and at the end my first report was what I needed. After that I needed to actually get the work done, an estimate is useful but until the place was all put back together I couldn't give them a final bill. And throughout this process there were lots of back and forth on the extent of the damage. I was very lucky that I have a small Airbnb office by me and this unit was a favorite for their employees when they came to town so I had a handful of great Airbnb employees on my side helping push my case through. Once all the work was done they had a bunch of questions about some of the expenses and tried getting out fo paying for a variety of things. The whole back and forth process took about 2 months once all the work was done. I didn't start any construction for about 6 weeks after it occurred and then it took about 8 weeks to get all of the work done due to a variety of scheduling issues. and then another 2-3 months of back and forth with Airbnb.
Levi that’s horrible . Did you have the pay for everything then afterwards Airbnb reimbursed you ? Or did they set it up into a way that they got the bill directly ? I mean because not everyone has that type of money for repairs.
Tell that to the lawyers who handled the class-action suit against the Catholic church for child sex abuse. You have no idea what you're talking about. I bet you also believe that all lobbyists work for big tobacco companies.
@@dmjdmj Yeah it seems way to broad and unspecific to say that ALL class action lawyers are bad and ALL class action lawsuits are frivolous... there are definitely times when it is necessary and justified.
dmjdmj Way to bring up the .0001% of class action lawsuit that was somewhat worthwhile, but even then why not just go after them on a case by case basis.
I've worked in a plaintiff law firm for 3 years (the exact kind of firm which sues others). I quit. But here are my observations: 1) No lawyer is a good lawyer unless he constantly lies and exaggerates for the benefit of his client. If you get a lawyer who is unwilling to lie on your behalf for the benefit of your case, look for someone else. This field and every field related to this field, such as the entities that get sued, will all lie, all the time. An honest lawyer simply cannot be on equal ground if he is honest, because his opponents will lie. So all good lawyers and others who work in this and related fields will all lie to the extent of which one cannot prove/disprove a lie. So a good lawyer will lie for the benefit of his client as long as he knows he can get away with it, always. The best lawyer is the one who knows where he can lie and where he cant and how to expose someone else lying. 2) Many lawsuits are indeed bogus. In my experience, almost all of our lawsuits were an exaggeration of the actual facts and sometimes even borderline a fabrication. Usually we extremely exaggerate the extent of the damages of our client. HOWEVER, there have been plenty of cases where we had a legit case but the adversary party (such as an insurance company) treated the legit case as fraud and in the end the legit cases often got underpaid or dismissed. 3) Even though lawyers are crooked, and by definition they have to be in the interest of their client, do realize that the reason lawyers exist is because many businesses screw over customers/clients/insureds/etc and so these people have no alternative but to hire a lawyer in order to achieve (financial) justice. Many of our clients came to us and, for example, said they were offered like $500 from a business when in fact they were entitled to at least $50k. So my point is that yes, lawyers are bad, but so are the companies we sue. You think your insurance company actually cares about you? You think you had an accident and the insurance company offering to pay your bills is them being nice? Next time you have an accident, dont take money from the insurance company, go straight to a lawyer, and see how big the difference is between how much money an insurance company can get you and how much a good lawyer can get you (and how much you actually deserve). 4) Class action law suits. Now, these are comparatively very rare, and yes unfortunately they are also sometimes bogus. However, without CAL's, many companies could get away with soooo much crap. There are certain kind of lawsuits which can only be brought up via class action law suits. For example, nowadays we see many car companies advertise one price but in reality offer another. Or we see "oil change for $20" but when we drive in, we are charged $35. The list is endless of similar cases of ripoffs. Normally, no single person would sue them. Or at least, no reasonable person would sue because you cant really get anything out of such a law suit, financially, because your damages were extremely low. However, if you find ten or one hundred or one thousand others just like you who were fooled by false advertising, you can actually bring about a big law suit and get a good lawyer and sue not only for your damages, but also for what are called "punitive damages". In other words, you can sue not only for the damages you suffered, but also for additional $$$ to teach a company a lesson so it does not pursue illegal behavior in the future. SuperspeedersRob, you might be a good person, you might be not, I dont know you, maybe you have a like-able youtube persona but on business you become someone else. However, this field is full of people who will do anything when money is on the line. This is why lawyers have to be crooked and corrupted in order to level the playing field. Most of the time people lie and they don't even know it. I cannot stress how many times I've been on the phone with an insurance adjuster or a doctor or car dealership and the person on the other line could swear to me that X is true, only then 10 minutes later for me to find out that X is completely false (most often this is due to incompetence: people don't actually know what is true but they want the truth what they want it to be) Also, in my 3 years, we have sued some pretty popular businessmen who held lectures and had youtube videos just like you have, Rob. I even attended some of these lectures for the fun of it. My observation was that everyone who gets sued thinks he is innocent. I remember we sued one doctor for pennies but this was more out of principle because he was a fraud and we felt bad for our client, and he would at every lecture of his tell everyone how corrupt lawyers are and how money-hungry we are even though this lawsuit was completely legit and he was a fraud (long story short he would significantly overcharge patients and exaggerate the extent of their damages so that they would keep treating with him, and he would never accept a reduction for these charges despite how poor the patient could be)
Much love to you and your wife, Rob. It's so sad lawyers and people like that customer are out there. Keep enjoying your business and all the good customers you have.
He is probably back in Britain so is pretty much untouchable. He just needs to write this experience off and move on. Nothing good can come from poking that beehive.
OK not all class-action lawsuits are bad. As somebody who was a part of a multimillion dollar class action lawsuit against my former employer who refused to pay overtime to the employees after we worked 12 hours a day seven days a week for four weeks. We had no other choice and because there were couple hundred of us it had to be a class-action.
Andrew Brown I worked for a software company and it was right around the release of an update of a new version of the software and they decided to not pass for any overtime. Claiming every employee was exempt.
For sure. Or to protect shareholder rights, stuff like that. I bet he'd agree with you. I think he's talking about dumb lawsuits like the redbull one, which, no lie, I was a part of so I could get some free redbull 😂😂 I think, specifically, he's talking about class action suits where the lawyers are trying to find something to create a class for the suit, not where a legitimate suit sues for what they're owed.
I think rob was referring to the patent troll type of lawyers that bring these type of lawsuits. The people get screwed over, the lawyers get paid, the people that got screwed get nothing.
I heared that something like a Hobby for many ( not all ) People from the UK! They go on Vacation to Mallorca ( or other Destinations ) , have some good Days and when They back in the UK they sue the Hotels or the Tour Operators for not exsitent Proplems ( like in your Case the not working AC ) and want their Money back! Maybe it was the same Method, the Guy rented your Car!
Rob, Even if the lawyer who wrote the contract was dead. Wouldn't the insurance company who covered him at the time it was written still have to cover it? Since it was written when the policy was active?
@GEEZERGUY if it’s like professional indemnity insurance they state in the policy you have to have continuous insurance from when the incident occurred right up to the date of the claim. It’s a great loophole for those insurance companies!
LOLWUT? Looks like the Asperger's spaghetti meatballers are still at it. Kids with Asperger's never notice the joke is over. This joke died a year ago. Newsflash: Everyone's moved on.
Mr Spaghetti, you’re one one of my favorite commenters on here. It’s always a pleasure finding you in comments, I’ve even seen you on other channels that I watch. Your comments are always a trip. Take care!
"kids with Aspergers never notice a joke is over" he copies and pastes on comment after comment after comment. You've got a little extra Asp on your erger don't ya? lol. The irony...
I throw all of those class action mailings away too. One of the times that I "won" I think I got a $25 airline voucher, another time a check for, like you said, about $3. On the main point, I appreciate how some people never make enough to save anything, but somehow it seems worse that you can go broke, and then some, just paying lawyers when nothing really happened!
Wow Rob, that’s a crap deal! I’m shocked a rental company would even offer a “Gumball Package”, that renter should be more grateful that car was even available to him for that purpose!
2:58 The aircon didn't work because IT'S A LAMBORGHINI! It didn't work in the Countach/Diablo even when it was ON! In that Murcielago, it must have been one of the bits that Audi still let the Italians develop :P
Rob, you did well to defend that lawsuit. The renter is a royal asshat. Most people from the UK are great but there's a certain group of people there with a false sense of entitlement and arrogant attitude with the presumption they're always right. Any hope to recover legal fees from the renter?
@@82_KID, I am obviously biased as a UK resident, most people here are basically Ok but there are some that will utterly rip you off given a chance. Sadly we only get to read about ridiculous US lawsuits and this person might have planned the whole trip as a get rich scheme.
I opted into a class action against Abercrombie & Fitch (my first employer, when i was 16) and after receiving multiple checks for less than $5 I got one for $210. Definitely put a smile on my face, especially since I felt I wasn’t taken advantage of and I haven’t worked there in 7 years
LOLWUT? Looks like the Asperger's spaghetti meatballers are still at it. Kids with Asperger's never notice the joke is over. This joke died a year ago. Newsflash: Everyone's moved on.
Glad you got it sorted. Sometimes there's just no common sense in the world. It's absolutely crazy how people feel so entitled when they're the ones in the wrong.
I got roped into one without me realizing. I was on the class side. I got an email from a games company asking me for some info about my account, either I wasn’t paying attention or they didn’t make it clear as to why they needed it. Months later I got a check in the mail for something like $0.22. It wasn’t even worth the gas it would’ve taken to go cash it so I trashed it. I understand that sometimes there is a very good reason for a class action lawsuit, but like anything with our legal system, there are people out there who will use and abuse it to make a buck, and the lawyers who represent those cases typically walk away with a huge portion of the awarded sum, while the people actually “harmed” typically get screwed. It’s silly.
LOLWUT? Looks like the Asperger's spaghetti meatballers are still at it. Kids with Asperger's never notice the joke is over. This joke died a year ago. Newsflash: Everyone's moved on.
Just out of curiosity, why does him being dead matter? I mean it's his contract the e&o was insuring not his life. I would have thought e&o applied to any contract written during the time I pay premiums and you seem to be saying it's the day of the lawsuit that matters not the contract (even from contracts prior to my starting coverage with company?) I mean if I get in a car accident and I have coverage with all state and two years later I've sold my car and have no insurance and the other party sues, to me I'm still covered by all state it doesn't matter that I'm no longer a client, I was at the time. if I retire for example, the last contract I wrote was covered for about ten minutes if it only covers lawsuits while I'm paying premiums. Was it just ok if they won 3 million you could go after his insurance but since they didn't name the contract lawyer in the lawsuit you'd have had to pay your lawyer still to first fight the insurance company to get them to step in and fulfill there obligations?
This was my thoughts exactly. The E&O insurance should have responded to defend the lawsuit as it was in force at the time the lawyer drafted the contract.
Take a look at the bill at 7:08. This guy paid the $47,500 for the car and his damages to it. It looks like the dispute was really over Rob trying to weasel over $100k out of him for "loss of use", support technicians and roadside assistance for the rental car breaking, and even a stay at a resort and shipping for replacement parts. The breakage was with the A/C which you can't possibly claim is the customer's fault, so why should the customer pay for it? He admits later in the video that there was an issue with the charge of the A/C system, so the customer wasn't lying or having unrealistic expectations of the Lambo's A/C. Yeah, the customer screwed the front bumper on a car that's ridiculously low and easy to scrape, and broke a finicky Italian exotic car key that's probably been abused already for years. As an exotic car rental company it's your responsibility to be prepared to repair commonly damaged items (e.g. bumpers) in a timely fashion and to be prepared for failures of other common items specific to the models you're renting out. These cars are failure prone already, and renting them out only exacerbates the problems these cars experience so frequently (e.g. electronics problems, power windows, A/C, etc.).
The point was that he didn't pay the bill, you obviously didn't listen to the video. As far as damage goes it is what it is, there is a rental contract and you are responsible for any damage done to car while it's in your possession and it's no different if it's a beater or an exotic and the prices to fix the damage is based on the car. End of argument, the guy signed a contract and that's that. The ac problem was just a bratty rich kid looking for an excuse to keep his money and get a free ride in someone else's dime.
Sorry to hear u had to go thru all of this. You provide a service for people to drive cars that some could only dream of just sitting in.. and I thank you for that! Unfortunately some people try to take advantage of others.. It really sounds like you did everything possible for this guy, paying for repairs on the spot, paying for hotel rooms, overnighting parts, offering to pay for another car.. ect. Hope it all works out in the end..
$3m lawsuit over something so trivia. No wonder the US economy is so fucked up (apart from the lawyers of course!) - So technically the same lawsuit/action could occur if say, the car involved had been a Yugo? As it appears it’s more about the winning (principal) than the $$$$$ ????? In the UK🇬🇧 this would of been settled through the courts for a tiny fraction of this.
andy1dp it’s funny when American conspiracy theorists come up with all kinds of shit as to who is controlling their country when it’s obvious: lawyers. Tens of thousands of scumbag lawyers. And maybe 5 decent ones.
Based on your side of the story, sounds like you were very accommodating especially with providing parts on their next stop. That's awesome. I feel like that a lot of companies/people would not go out of their way to do that. It's a shame that you ended up with paying 120k but at least you did not pay 3 million.
What do you mean it was frivolous? They, in fact, used illegal language in their contracts. There was no abuse of process here. Don't get me wrong, it's a fucked up system but it seems handled correctly.
@@dmjdmj did anyone suffer a loss due to the language used in the contract? No? Then it’s a frivolous lawsuit, and exactly why the American legal system needs a reform. Nobody suffered a loss, but some ambulance chasing lawyers decide they’ll make some money from good faith business owners by suing them for something that hasn’t actually affected anyone. Which is exactly why they lost.
Class action lawsuits are important in preventing big companies from bullying normal citizens out of small enough amounts of money that there is no legal recourse. If your cable company unlawfully takes $100 from you, you will not go to court because it’s cheaper to just pay the $100 (and you won’t be able to go to court because of an arbitration clause anyway). With class action lawsuits, if 100,000 customers were robbed like that, the amount becomes large enough to create problems for those companies. It’s an important deterrent and helps keep the companies in check.
I ain't buying. Your attorney's E&O carrier would have been on the hook for your defense costs whether he was alive or not because your lawyer would have interpleaded him into the suit. It seems more likely you just cut and paste a contract to avoid having to pay a professional, which would also explain why it was a crap contract.
So he takes the car, signs the rental contract, causes $20,000 damage and dumps the car on the opposite side of the country and wants his money back....what a parasite.
You would be very surprised how often this happens....
Definitely would hire someone to take care of him
Project Dakota you mean like a wedding favor from a don?
100% that's how the guy operates in everything he does. His plan from the beginning was to come up with a way to avoid paying... the a/c problem and the complaints were all lie's meant to set the stage for a refund. If a company doesn't play ball , he files a suit and they get scared and settle outside of court. It's a textbook Con Artist , the kind that doesn't care who he screws over. If he somehow got exposed for everything he's done , he'd spend the rest of this life in a "gated" community , I'd put money on it.
I think it was a she with loads of dosh but didn’t know how to drive.
Bet you it’s a she, he mentioned but didn’t stress it for frAr of. New law suit on gender discrimination, if we say that marginally bitches can’t drive in general nor operate the air conditioning for the specifics.
I don't understand how your legal fees don't get reimbursed if you win. These frivolous lawsuits essentially destroy you if don't have the funds to defend yourself.
You have to countersue for costs, and I *think* (I'm not a lawyer) that you have to show the suit is frivolous.
Murica :p
That's why Justice is for the privileged few.. It's not really blind.
It is rare to get lawyer fees.
in the uk he could have let the suit progress and prepare to declare bankruptcy and close the company if the other person won, costs you a lot less than legal fees. you then reopen the company with a different director and after 7 years your'e no longer bankrupt and everything is back to normal. the idiot who files the suit gets zero since the company is insolvent.
I hope that dude is blacklisted from all exotic car rentals
and all supercar events
Yeah. this kind of shit should qualify Mr UK for a life time blackballing
If you look at the bill carefully, it seems like he paid for the car (~$50k), but didn't want to pay for the $60k "loss of use" that Spaghetti charged him for the broken key turnaround etc. So take Spaghetti's word with a huge grain of salt before passing judgement.
Agent00F Sounds fair tbh. Especially with sitting for a month making him loose more money...
@@Badassing It may or may not fair depending on specific circumstances. For example, did the customer break the key or was the key from a finicky exotic prone to breaking and customer was just the last to touch it. I don't know the details, but everyone can see that Rob isn't exactly forthright about what the dispute with the renter is over, which might suggest he's not forthright about the rest.
The guy who filed the suit made 470 accounts and disliked this video on each one. Watch out, Rob, he is now going to file a Lawsuit because you made this video
Speed Comparer the dude is a really dedicated as$hole
It's 888 now.
It keeps growing..
up to 1k
Nobody wins once lawyers get involved.
Congratulations Rob enjoy your anniversary.
The lawyers win tho
Yes. Only the lawyers win.
L Gonzalez ass kisser. Congrats rob blah blah blah. Lol
The lawyers win!
What an utterly ignorant statement.
Seems like you should be able to counter sue for attorney fees.
In many states, for cases like this, each party pays their own court costs and their is no way of making that the offending party's problem.
@@samoksner Oh, there's a Jersey way to get the get back, trust that.
Yes loser pays the costs.
@@samoksner you can sue to recover court costs
Idk about the US but the loser generally pays the other person's fees
Gumball is ruined by little rich children that look and act like complete fools. The gumball videos are more about their Jersey Shore life style and nothing about the actual race and cars.
Trust fund douchebags
Yup. Gumball pretty much died around the time Bam and Tony Hawk did it. It's in no way in the spirit of its origins.
U.A.T. + bringing dumb IG Models
Ikr all they do is show off they are rich by annoying ever other road users. Some think its cool yet when a pack of them just blatly run red lights and stop signs so they can be ina group etc
dumbass
"My air conditioning doesn't work" ok sir where are you " the middle of the dessert, it's 100 degrees"
My a.c. works when it's 100° f no problem, 100° c would be harder.
Was he in the middle of pie or cake?
Damn beat me to it.
The Sahara or the pie?
Also, 'with the top down'
It's incredible you've made a channel where you pretty much just talk while sitting down. It's actually insane how good of a presenter/speaker you are.
Interesting work
I live in the UK, who was the bloke? I'll go find him and put him in a shipping container and post him out to ya!! 🤗 😂
Schmee... For real though IDK who it was but I can't stand him.
Mark Walters
It was a guy named mark Walters
XD
@Kenny Argueta Ventura john olson lives in sweden or somewhere but it wasn't him he would never do that.
Seems like this guy wanted a free trip
Its easy to disable major components (or anything else) in any rental car.. Risk you take when renting out anything, especially exotics. People are truly shit, Spaghetti should submit links/names for these douche bags so others can be aware.
I think he included a few clips of the vehicle in the Gumball if you felt like it you couple figure it out. You know what type of vehicle, which Gumball, and the guy is from the UK.
If you look at the bill carefully, it seems like he paid for the car (~$50k), but didn't want to pay for the $60k "loss of use" that Spaghetti charged him for the broken key. So take Spaghetti's word with a huge grain of salt.
@@agenthex always 2 sides ...
@@agenthex that guy renting was a total douche bag. Makes perfect sense he didn't win the lawsuit.
The $140,000 cost for legal fees can be written off in your taxes, I agree you were totally in the right but I’d look at it as the cost of business
True, and unfortunately, ultimately the paying customers get to pay the costs in higher prices.
He most certainly knows that.
Some guy that makes $36k is telling mr spaghetti to look at a 140k loss as cost of doing business
@Scott Sloop Exactly...
Still costs a lot more than not having to pay them in the first place
Happy Anniversary Buddy! Glad you got it sorted.
Glad you got laid*
That Couch has more cup holders than that Lambo!
More than an E36 for sure
Do a video on getting cheaper parts that are really reliable, this industry is getting ridiculous
You're asking for a video about common sense. 🤔
Daniel Maia rockauto 😎😂
@@iyaz15 May be common sense but the more people know about it the better. May even get manufacturers like Ferrari to stop price gouging and preying on the wealthy who don't know any better.. But what do I care lol I can't afford one anyway.
Part numbers and google. It’s that simple. Buy the absolute cheapest part you find, they’re all made in the same exact place. Autozone $220 for a starter, $18 online.
Daniel Maia also if you need a part the same day, buy it at autozone, order the part online and put the online part in the autozone box and return it
Better call saul.
Lmao
Kenneth but he started the class action with sandpiper, rob wouldn’t want him
Business isn't always as glamorous some ppl may imagine it to be..... Even as a owner you still have to get in the trenches and fight to stay open...
Lmfao at your name.
Here if you get sued and you win, the company / person that sued you have to pay for all your expenses.
Amazing law to prevent shitheads to sue others for no real reason
@@Mr.Legend_Speaks I'm sure there's more to it than just that, but the thought behind it is good.
Happened to Donald Trump with Stormy Daniels...she had to pay his legal fees when she lost.
Lee Johnson wym he settled
@@awsstudios he didn't settle. She lost and had to pay his legal fees of about $500k. Google it.
This doesn't apply to class action lawsuits
My family member is a lawyer and he said pretty much all lawyers " We only will take the case if its easy to prove and pays well, we dont care about anything else nor your issue." That's why pretty much all lawyers for accidents only accept you if you are injured because that's big $$ its even in the ads " injuried?"
Yep they are scum, i got taken advantage of big time in a motor vehicle wreck. I knew nothing then. Most Lawyers are scum aside from public defenders and the rsre few good hearted ones
The only ppl that ALWAYS win r the lawyers
And politicians....
Not that time.... no money
$3Mil lawsuit? When I saw the thumbnail I thought you rented a car to Salomondrin.
Careful you might trigger salomondrins PTSD and he'll sue you.
Lol
Ano Nony Am I missing something? Has he actually sued someone for that before...😳
As long as he doesn't burn the car down for publicity, you should be ok lol.
Pizza Man same here
Guys name is Mark Walters if anyone wants to know😉
Of course u mong
Rata 4U yes he was in the wrong.
One dislike is from the guy who rented the Lambo.
second is from his lawyer
its 12 now...Thats a jury, aint it ????
Very careless guy. It is not your thing. Treat it with respected.
or the 'refrigerator AC repair guy'
657 now. Please name each person. Thanks.
Do you think you will ever recover the excess on the damage from the dude. I am guessing since he is in the UK, it might not be worth it unless he has some assets in the US. What a bunch of bull from this dude and other rascals attorneys who try to pull this hogwash. ugh! BTW, Happy Anniversary!
Nope
On principle it may be worth the trouble. Speaking on the UK I once had a British room mate and lived near a British pub. One night when a soccer (football) match was on he comes tearing in looking for the jersey of a player that had been traded from the opponents team to his. Thinking it was Arsenal vs Man U. I was curious why he was so fired up. Was told It's politics, it's political mate!! Laughed my ass off. Funny thing is he got trashed at the game and the other teams fans gave his drunk a@@ a ride home. This was in Texas.
Lawyers are modern day legal mafia, it is the reason why this country has been growing at a snails pace. I stopped expanding my business and hiring more employees due to the legal system. Instead of giving amazing service and always doing the right thing I now second guess everything I do because of potential liability.
The scum of this planet.
Hope they all get cancer. It's not the lawyers its who evers allowing this bullshit to get to courts; it needs to be torn down. Watch law abiding citizen. It's the only movie you root for the bad guy,.
Exactly!!!
Tort reform is needed. Be careful of voting for attorneys as your representatives. Most bait and switch,
So why didn't you demand in court payment for your legal fees?
You cant on class action its federal law stupid I know
@@jeremyhanna3852 that's so dumb...
The key takeaway: you can get sued for a nonsensical reason and you won't get reimbursed for your legal fees even if you win.
Yepp! 'murica
Cost of doing business. At least he isn't in the medical business, holy crap they spend a lot on stupid lawsuits.
Scary
You can get your money back but you have to sue
7:03 *I LOVE IT, the invoice charges $32,500 for lambo rental & the support technician rental car was $90, lol.* That was the cheapest chrg on the involve.
They tried to take his meatballs
He took their pasta
Edit: Apparently snowflakes can't deal with spaghetti 👌
SuperMechguy def not. No more spaghetti puns. They’re not allowed anymore
Jason Langevin I’m gonna have to disagree with that point.
jack london wrong
Seriously the spaghetti jokes are played out....have been for a long time
@@jacklondon3921 Sounds like to me that somebody's mom got an extra noodle!
Glad you beat that little snob. His daddy wont be happy paying them legal fees. 🤣😂🤣😂👍🏻🇬🇧
One word: "contingency"
And thanks to this word, frivolous lawsuits are the norm.
Seriously, what damage could that phrase do to the renter? A generic catch-all phrase in a contract is illegal in New Jersey? What a crock of crap.
Jameson Korb they were hardcore reaching
Right? I am blown away that this phrase is literally illegal in New Jersey... The United States has some hardcore douchebag we're all Donald trumps somebody nuke us already I'll sacrifice myself as long as it takes some of these asshats surrounding me out too kind of laws that make you hope whoever brought it into fruition spends one or two eternities in hell getting punched in the face by Mike Tyson in his prime. Wow.. Everyone feel free to say "umad bro?" to me.. I just raged.
Daniel Nelson the douche at the top of the class wasn’t American
Man. Thanks for taking the time to explain this. So glad you weren’t found culpable for this travesty of the legal system.
Too bad most of Congress are lawyers and they would never vote for tort reform and have the type of system that are British counterparts have, loser pays. That would get rid of all frivolous lawsuits
George Mulligan I was looking for a comment on this as I was confused as to why he was bummed about the 140k. In Australia the loser pays winners legal fees, thought that would’ve been the same in the states.
It wouldn't get rid of them all. Some frivolous lawsuits do win, and when they win the payout can be worth the cost of losing a few others.
What you just said already exists in the United States in many cases.
Hanz Flefowitz no it doesn’t what are you talking about. Loser does not pay winners legal fees. Not in tort law.
Maybe divorce court.
Over 500 class action lawyers thumbs downed the video. I’m glad you won your case, you should be also be compensated for your legal defense of the frivolous lawsuit.
Happy Anniversary. Thanks for posting the update.
why didn't you slap him with a countersuit for damages
It's Expensive.
@@DV7Dave at 140k in the hole might as well go after them
Compensation would include the expense of the countersuit
There is a class action lawyer who lives in my town in Canada 🇨🇦 who is suing McDonalds because they are making kids ask you to buy happy meals and making you buy your kids happy meals
What happened to teaching kids the word no?
@@SinisterRubberDuckie Probably some rule against saying no to a kid. Might severely traumatize the poor kid and they would be scarred for life. Like how a parent cant apply a belt to a backside when needed. And a bar of soap in a dirty mouth is right out.
I'm British born and bred and embarrassed at the guy who rented from you Rob. We're not all like that in the UK. Most are hard working and genuine .Just the elite that think there part time gods. Glad you came through ok and cleared your name.
cant you counter sue for legal fees not really sure how law works
I was hoping to see an answer for this question.
Not sure about a countersuit being cost effective. Typically when a judge issues a ruling , there will be an order to pay the legal fees of the successful defender of a losing suit .
@@Pwnulolumad That generally doesn't apply in the US. You're describing the "English rule" whereas in the US the "American rule" applies.
@@dmjdmj American rule must have been created through lobbying by lawyers.
The reason he had to pay for legal fees is because he lost the suit. I'm pretty sure the guy settled for a full refund plus legal fees. Rich people can get annoying when they want their money back. The have the time and money to make you miserable. I think Rob could sense this and was trying to pad the invoice. Can't see how that worked in his favor.
I couldn't stand Rob when I first saw his videos, but the more I watch the more I like the dude. Keep up the good work.
I thought the way the law was I could be wrong correct me if I am but I thought the loser of a lawsuit has to pay the winners legal fees. If not you can file for legal fees And the judge should be able to say you need to pay this man’s legal fees. but if I’m wrong please let me know. And by the way happy anniversary to you and your wife hope you have a good night
That is the British system. That's why there are so many frivolous lawsuits in the US and unfortunately most of Congress are lawyers that's why tort reform bills have never been able to pass
I believe that (legal fees paid by loser) is only for civil lawsuits, class actions can be a lot more complicated due tot he inclusion of many people. Maybe, just sue the law-firm that brought the suit.
AGREED @@georgemulligan8958
pdavid24 I gotcha I just thought that the The attorney will go after the Plaintiff for the amount to cover the fees of his part of the case and usually you can file that with the course . Does the plaintiff in this case which was the loser also have to pay the court costs be in a class action?
In general, no. In America, each party pays their own way (it's called the American rule). That being said, it depends largely on state or federal laws pertaining to the case, as well as the judge's discretion. I'm guessing the judge thought it fair for Gotham and the other defendants to have paid for their defense, given the "relatively low" cost. It might be possible to sue for damages after the fact, but in general, it's not worth it given that you would incur further legal fees in trying to do so. Generally the case has to be pretty frivolous or a matter of public interest (a case given was a California citizen suing his local city rightfully claiming that the construction they planned would cause large environmental impact, flooding, etc) for a judge to either be required or to choose to grant the defendant some sort of recovery of legal fees.
Good ol legal system, allow frivilous suites to exist in the first place. These damn attorney's that start these types of suites should all loose their licenses, repay for damages and automatic jail time.
CONGRATULATIONS ON 700,000 subscribers!!
Aaaaaaaand it's gone....
The "Gum Ball " dude "unsubbed"....699,000 now
Don’t ya mean 6ix9ine9ine,9ine9ine9ine
@@ToyManFlyer1100 I subbed, but it's still 699K :(
Congrats Mr. Spaghetti! On the win against idiots AND the 10 year anniversary! Keep on slayin'!
Today, Mr. Spaghetti tells us how a meatball burglar tried to take all of his noodles🍝
Lmao how do you people come up with this sh*t
Wtf.....? Bro, you need to stay off the bath salts.
😂👍
💀
Meatball burglar > takes noodles > good job.
I had someone rent my Airbnb and they sprayed/poured 76 bottles of champagne over every inch of the apartment. They were in town for New Years. The hardwood floors had to be ripped out and replaced, same with the kitchen cabinets. Plus the place needed to get repainted and all of the furniture replaced/dee cleaned. The bill was a bit over $50,000 for everything. His argument the whole time was that the spilled champagne was covered by my $50 cleaning fee.
Airbnb paid out after 6months of fighting but that was my last Airbnb experience.
How do you know they sprayed all 76 bottles? Also replacing the floor from champagne being on it is a bit excessive. Proper flooring can withstand being wet for a few days. Charging for the paint would of been reasonable
@@geewoods6590 They had left all of the bottles on the floor laid out everywhere and every surface of the apartment was drenched. And no hardwood floors are not designed to be soaked especially not in a sugary liquid. To put it into perspective in order to walk in the apartment you needed to consciously lift your feet because it was so sticky. So you can give them the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they drank some of the champagne but even if they did, a vast majority of it ended up on the floors, walls, ceiling, cabinets, in the pool table, or in the sofas and beds. And considering that they only had like 20-25 people over (we had cameras watching them go in and out) I doubt that 20 people could drink 76 bottles of champagne and a handful of other liquors and beers. People can drink a lot but the bottle to person ratio was extremely high. I would have to look back to see how many of the other types of empty drink there were but I remember there were something like 40~ beer cans/bottles empty and 7-10 other liquor bottles. So yes they might have drank some of the champagne but based on how many other drinks where consumed at the party I doubt it was very much. And yes we counted and photographed all of the empty bottles tossed all over the apartment we had to for our report.
And trust me I did not want to replace the floors but I did not have an option the champagne had gotten underneath large sections of the flooring and seeped into every crack and crevice and it would have attracted ants and other critters on top of the actual damage to the floors. When the floor was ripped out we found multiple pools of champagne under the floors. Sure the floors would survive in theory. But eventually the damage would catch up if it was from the "water" damage or the insects that would come from far and wide to feast on the puddles of sugar water waiting for them. It might seem like overkill but it really wasn't, the damage was pretty serious. The floors were only a few years old and I loved them, replacing them was a huge pain in the ass and I prefer my old floors, and the compensation never covers all of the time and energy I put into it.
@@featherman9 6 months of fighting, how did that go with airbnb, what all do they drag on and how do they try to not pay out?
@@PlayCenterShop It was a lot of waiting and changing who I am supposed to speak with. The first few weeks were waiting for the guest to offer to pay. Obviously they had no intention of paying they offered to replace the felt on my pool table everything else they felt was covered by my $50 cleaning fee. After they refused to pay I needed to get 3 different police reports each person at Airbnb I spoke with claimed that I needed a different one and at the end my first report was what I needed. After that I needed to actually get the work done, an estimate is useful but until the place was all put back together I couldn't give them a final bill. And throughout this process there were lots of back and forth on the extent of the damage. I was very lucky that I have a small Airbnb office by me and this unit was a favorite for their employees when they came to town so I had a handful of great Airbnb employees on my side helping push my case through. Once all the work was done they had a bunch of questions about some of the expenses and tried getting out fo paying for a variety of things. The whole back and forth process took about 2 months once all the work was done. I didn't start any construction for about 6 weeks after it occurred and then it took about 8 weeks to get all of the work done due to a variety of scheduling issues. and then another 2-3 months of back and forth with Airbnb.
Levi that’s horrible . Did you have the pay for everything then afterwards Airbnb reimbursed you ? Or did they set it up into a way that they got the bill directly ? I mean because not everyone has that type of money for repairs.
Class action lawyers are just...
shake down artists. Hoping you'll settle for something.
You watch every video I watch
Karan Patel aren’t you guys brothers?
Tell that to the lawyers who handled the class-action suit against the Catholic church for child sex abuse. You have no idea what you're talking about. I bet you also believe that all lobbyists work for big tobacco companies.
@@dmjdmj Yeah it seems way to broad and unspecific to say that ALL class action lawyers are bad and ALL class action lawsuits are frivolous... there are definitely times when it is necessary and justified.
dmjdmj Way to bring up the .0001% of class action lawsuit that was somewhat worthwhile, but even then why not just go after them on a case by case basis.
I've worked in a plaintiff law firm for 3 years (the exact kind of firm which sues others). I quit. But here are my observations:
1) No lawyer is a good lawyer unless he constantly lies and exaggerates for the benefit of his client. If you get a lawyer who is unwilling to lie on your behalf for the benefit of your case, look for someone else. This field and every field related to this field, such as the entities that get sued, will all lie, all the time. An honest lawyer simply cannot be on equal ground if he is honest, because his opponents will lie. So all good lawyers and others who work in this and related fields will all lie to the extent of which one cannot prove/disprove a lie. So a good lawyer will lie for the benefit of his client as long as he knows he can get away with it, always. The best lawyer is the one who knows where he can lie and where he cant and how to expose someone else lying.
2) Many lawsuits are indeed bogus. In my experience, almost all of our lawsuits were an exaggeration of the actual facts and sometimes even borderline a fabrication. Usually we extremely exaggerate the extent of the damages of our client. HOWEVER, there have been plenty of cases where we had a legit case but the adversary party (such as an insurance company) treated the legit case as fraud and in the end the legit cases often got underpaid or dismissed.
3) Even though lawyers are crooked, and by definition they have to be in the interest of their client, do realize that the reason lawyers exist is because many businesses screw over customers/clients/insureds/etc and so these people have no alternative but to hire a lawyer in order to achieve (financial) justice. Many of our clients came to us and, for example, said they were offered like $500 from a business when in fact they were entitled to at least $50k. So my point is that yes, lawyers are bad, but so are the companies we sue. You think your insurance company actually cares about you? You think you had an accident and the insurance company offering to pay your bills is them being nice? Next time you have an accident, dont take money from the insurance company, go straight to a lawyer, and see how big the difference is between how much money an insurance company can get you and how much a good lawyer can get you (and how much you actually deserve).
4) Class action law suits. Now, these are comparatively very rare, and yes unfortunately they are also sometimes bogus. However, without CAL's, many companies could get away with soooo much crap. There are certain kind of lawsuits which can only be brought up via class action law suits. For example, nowadays we see many car companies advertise one price but in reality offer another. Or we see "oil change for $20" but when we drive in, we are charged $35. The list is endless of similar cases of ripoffs. Normally, no single person would sue them. Or at least, no reasonable person would sue because you cant really get anything out of such a law suit, financially, because your damages were extremely low. However, if you find ten or one hundred or one thousand others just like you who were fooled by false advertising, you can actually bring about a big law suit and get a good lawyer and sue not only for your damages, but also for what are called "punitive damages". In other words, you can sue not only for the damages you suffered, but also for additional $$$ to teach a company a lesson so it does not pursue illegal behavior in the future.
SuperspeedersRob, you might be a good person, you might be not, I dont know you, maybe you have a like-able youtube persona but on business you become someone else. However, this field is full of people who will do anything when money is on the line. This is why lawyers have to be crooked and corrupted in order to level the playing field. Most of the time people lie and they don't even know it. I cannot stress how many times I've been on the phone with an insurance adjuster or a doctor or car dealership and the person on the other line could swear to me that X is true, only then 10 minutes later for me to find out that X is completely false (most often this is due to incompetence: people don't actually know what is true but they want the truth what they want it to be)
Also, in my 3 years, we have sued some pretty popular businessmen who held lectures and had youtube videos just like you have, Rob. I even attended some of these lectures for the fun of it. My observation was that everyone who gets sued thinks he is innocent. I remember we sued one doctor for pennies but this was more out of principle because he was a fraud and we felt bad for our client, and he would at every lecture of his tell everyone how corrupt lawyers are and how money-hungry we are even though this lawsuit was completely legit and he was a fraud (long story short he would significantly overcharge patients and exaggerate the extent of their damages so that they would keep treating with him, and he would never accept a reduction for these charges despite how poor the patient could be)
if i know one thing as soon as you return the compressor youll need it the next day
Much love to you and your wife, Rob. It's so sad lawyers and people like that customer are out there. Keep enjoying your business and all the good customers you have.
i once got a check in the mail for like 59 cents from a class action that i didn't know i was part of.
0.59$....
The lawyer probably got 590k
I would frame that check 🤣😂
LMAO caption it "A hard days work"
akui88 I’ve gotten checks like that before too haha fun times!
Screw that guy! Sue him for time and damages
He is probably back in Britain so is pretty much untouchable. He just needs to write this experience off and move on. Nothing good can come from poking that beehive.
OK not all class-action lawsuits are bad. As somebody who was a part of a multimillion dollar class action lawsuit against my former employer who refused to pay overtime to the employees after we worked 12 hours a day seven days a week for four weeks. We had no other choice and because there were couple hundred of us it had to be a class-action.
Heidi Williams sounds like enterprise rent a car
Andrew Brown I worked for a software company and it was right around the release of an update of a new version of the software and they decided to not pass for any overtime. Claiming every employee was exempt.
For sure. Or to protect shareholder rights, stuff like that. I bet he'd agree with you. I think he's talking about dumb lawsuits like the redbull one, which, no lie, I was a part of so I could get some free redbull 😂😂 I think, specifically, he's talking about class action suits where the lawyers are trying to find something to create a class for the suit, not where a legitimate suit sues for what they're owed.
I think rob was referring to the patent troll type of lawyers that bring these type of lawsuits. The people get screwed over, the lawyers get paid, the people that got screwed get nothing.
absolutely true I was thinking the same. Thanks for sharing
I heared that something like a Hobby for many ( not all ) People from the UK!
They go on Vacation to Mallorca ( or other Destinations ) , have some good Days and when They back in the UK they sue the Hotels or the Tour Operators for not exsitent Proplems ( like in your Case the not working AC ) and want their Money back!
Maybe it was the same Method, the Guy rented your Car!
The problem is 'Compensation Culture'.
From the UK and never heard of anyone doing that.
@@mac7858 i saw it at an Newsreport in the German News! 🙄🤷♂️
there are many Cases !
Congratulations in Your 10yr Anniversary !!🍾🎉🎈🎊
You should have contacted me. I would have driven the car back to you from Las Vegas.
The stupid prick broke the key
10 years ago today, you could have made the decision to not got yelled at to get off your last live stream in 2019
Wow an extra $58k charge for 30 days off road for the repair, that’s a long repair, more than doubled his bill. That was probably his problem.
MaxAmmoNeeded maybe he shouldn’t damage their car then
I wish it would’ve been more. Guys a pos
Speak on Alejandro placing lawsuits on fellow you-tubers and faking ptsd for the McLaren fire in preparation for a lawsuit!!!
He is not suing them
@@ItsGaryy wasn't that a ceast and desist?
ItsGary True, but it would be bad for him to sue them and I think he understands that. But you’re right
@@ItsGaryy Link?
@@l.c.icebreakr8336 Effspots channel has a vid
Rob,
Even if the lawyer who wrote the contract was dead. Wouldn't the insurance company who covered him at the time it was written still have to cover it? Since it was written when the policy was active?
great question.
@GEEZERGUY if it’s like professional indemnity insurance they state in the policy you have to have continuous insurance from when the incident occurred right up to the date of the claim. It’s a great loophole for those insurance companies!
I nearly lost all of my pasta
LOLWUT? Looks like the Asperger's spaghetti meatballers are still at it. Kids with Asperger's never notice the joke is over. This joke died a year ago. Newsflash: Everyone's moved on.
Mr Spaghetti, you’re one one of my favorite commenters on here. It’s always a pleasure finding you in comments, I’ve even seen you on other channels that I watch. Your comments are always a trip. Take care!
"kids with Aspergers never notice a joke is over" he copies and pastes on comment after comment after comment. You've got a little extra Asp on your erger don't ya? lol. The irony...
@@jacklondon3921 nobody cares
@@jacklondon3921 only reason i watch these videos
Happy Anniversary! I hope it went great!
Counter-sue for legal fees
Or send "Vinny" to go talk to them.
That would be futile. There was no abuse of process here.
Stop taking advice from judge Judy that doesn’t exist
I throw all of those class action mailings away too. One of the times that I "won" I think I got a $25 airline voucher, another time a check for, like you said, about $3. On the main point, I appreciate how some people never make enough to save anything, but somehow it seems worse that you can go broke, and then some, just paying lawyers when nothing really happened!
Don't discredit the value of principle. You definitely came out on top.
Wow Rob, that’s a crap deal! I’m shocked a rental company would even offer a “Gumball Package”, that renter should be more grateful that car was even available to him for that purpose!
Moral of the story - the legal system and NJ in general sucks
2:58 The aircon didn't work because IT'S A LAMBORGHINI! It didn't work in the Countach/Diablo even when it was ON! In that Murcielago, it must have been one of the bits that Audi still let the Italians develop :P
Rob, you did well to defend that lawsuit. The renter is a royal asshat. Most people from the UK are great but there's a certain group of people there with a false sense of entitlement and arrogant attitude with the presumption they're always right. Any hope to recover legal fees from the renter?
^ It's more than a "certain group" Most UK people and especially Aussies are just downright penises.
@@82_KID, I am obviously biased as a UK resident, most people here are basically Ok but there are some that will utterly rip you off given a chance. Sadly we only get to read about ridiculous US lawsuits and this person might have planned the whole trip as a get rich scheme.
The best part about these videos is I get to hear Rob Spagetti swallow his sauce like hes making an ASMR video lol
I think the Guy that rented the car has a channel and his name is Jon Olsson...
I love it when other people like to try and take away other peoples hard work because they can. Congrats on everything in that video.
100k legal bill for the wrong verbage is not from the 50k rental.
I opted into a class action against Abercrombie & Fitch (my first employer, when i was 16) and after receiving multiple checks for less than $5 I got one for $210. Definitely put a smile on my face, especially since I felt I wasn’t taken advantage of and I haven’t worked there in 7 years
Happy anniversary mr spaghetti 💗
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HAppy Anniversary!, thanks for the cool content. I got hooked after seeing the Ford Gt chase video
why you did not just include an insurance with a premium charged to the customer? like when you rent a car they ask you if you want an insurance
Glad you got it sorted. Sometimes there's just no common sense in the world. It's absolutely crazy how people feel so entitled when they're the ones in the wrong.
9:15 min : set the resort of fire 🔥,haha its all inclusive.. Im not gonna pay. 🤣🤣haha
Sounds like that lawsuit was coming your way even without Mr. Air-conditioner.
That ending was perfect 👌
I got roped into one without me realizing. I was on the class side. I got an email from a games company asking me for some info about my account, either I wasn’t paying attention or they didn’t make it clear as to why they needed it. Months later I got a check in the mail for something like $0.22. It wasn’t even worth the gas it would’ve taken to go cash it so I trashed it. I understand that sometimes there is a very good reason for a class action lawsuit, but like anything with our legal system, there are people out there who will use and abuse it to make a buck, and the lawyers who represent those cases typically walk away with a huge portion of the awarded sum, while the people actually “harmed” typically get screwed. It’s silly.
Damn man they tried to take all of rob spaghetti’s noodles and meatballs
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Somebody toucha his spaget
Lots of people always trying to get over on someone. Glad you guys came out with a win.
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Happy anniversary to you and your wife Rob. If there ever is gonna be a purge...a lot of lawyers get what they had coming.
Just out of curiosity, why does him being dead matter? I mean it's his contract the e&o was insuring not his life.
I would have thought e&o applied to any contract written during the time I pay premiums and you seem to be saying it's the day of the lawsuit that matters not the contract (even from contracts prior to my starting coverage with company?)
I mean if I get in a car accident and I have coverage with all state and two years later I've sold my car and have no insurance and the other party sues, to me I'm still covered by all state it doesn't matter that I'm no longer a client, I was at the time.
if I retire for example, the last contract I wrote was covered for about ten minutes if it only covers lawsuits while I'm paying premiums.
Was it just ok if they won 3 million you could go after his insurance but since they didn't name the contract lawyer in the lawsuit you'd have had to pay your lawyer still to first fight the insurance company to get them to step in and fulfill there obligations?
This was my thoughts exactly. The E&O insurance should have responded to defend the lawsuit as it was in force at the time the lawyer drafted the contract.
Take a look at the bill at 7:08. This guy paid the $47,500 for the car and his damages to it. It looks like the dispute was really over Rob trying to weasel over $100k out of him for "loss of use", support technicians and roadside assistance for the rental car breaking, and even a stay at a resort and shipping for replacement parts. The breakage was with the A/C which you can't possibly claim is the customer's fault, so why should the customer pay for it? He admits later in the video that there was an issue with the charge of the A/C system, so the customer wasn't lying or having unrealistic expectations of the Lambo's A/C. Yeah, the customer screwed the front bumper on a car that's ridiculously low and easy to scrape, and broke a finicky Italian exotic car key that's probably been abused already for years. As an exotic car rental company it's your responsibility to be prepared to repair commonly damaged items (e.g. bumpers) in a timely fashion and to be prepared for failures of other common items specific to the models you're renting out. These cars are failure prone already, and renting them out only exacerbates the problems these cars experience so frequently (e.g. electronics problems, power windows, A/C, etc.).
The point was that he didn't pay the bill, you obviously didn't listen to the video. As far as damage goes it is what it is, there is a rental contract and you are responsible for any damage done to car while it's in your possession and it's no different if it's a beater or an exotic and the prices to fix the damage is based on the car.
End of argument, the guy signed a contract and that's that. The ac problem was just a bratty rich kid looking for an excuse to keep his money and get a free ride in someone else's dime.
RUclipsr is Jon Olsson if anyone’s curious.
Potters Luxury really? Prove it
Sorry to hear u had to go thru all of this.
You provide a service for people to drive cars that some could only dream of just sitting in.. and I thank you for that!
Unfortunately some people try to take advantage of others..
It really sounds like you did everything possible for this guy, paying for repairs on the spot, paying for hotel rooms, overnighting parts, offering to pay for another car.. ect.
Hope it all works out in the end..
$3m lawsuit over something so trivia. No wonder the US economy is so fucked up (apart from the lawyers of course!) - So technically the same lawsuit/action could occur if say, the car involved had been a Yugo? As it appears it’s more about the winning (principal) than the $$$$$ ????? In the UK🇬🇧 this would of been settled through the courts for a tiny fraction of this.
andy1dp it’s funny when American conspiracy theorists come up with all kinds of shit as to who is controlling their country when it’s obvious: lawyers. Tens of thousands of scumbag lawyers. And maybe 5 decent ones.
Hey Rob, sounds like a very stressful time for you and partner! Well done for hanging in there. All the best getting the money you are owed 👍
Mr. Spaghetti tells a story about how everyone tried to take his meatballs.
Based on your side of the story, sounds like you were very accommodating especially with providing parts on their next stop. That's awesome. I feel like that a lot of companies/people would not go out of their way to do that. It's a shame that you ended up with paying 120k but at least you did not pay 3 million.
They should be made to pay your legal fees since it was a frivolous lawsuit.
What do you mean it was frivolous? They, in fact, used illegal language in their contracts. There was no abuse of process here. Don't get me wrong, it's a fucked up system but it seems handled correctly.
@@dmjdmj did anyone suffer a loss due to the language used in the contract? No?
Then it’s a frivolous lawsuit, and exactly why the American legal system needs a reform.
Nobody suffered a loss, but some ambulance chasing lawyers decide they’ll make some money from good faith business owners by suing them for something that hasn’t actually affected anyone. Which is exactly why they lost.
Class action lawsuits are important in preventing big companies from bullying normal citizens out of small enough amounts of money that there is no legal recourse. If your cable company unlawfully takes $100 from you, you will not go to court because it’s cheaper to just pay the $100 (and you won’t be able to go to court because of an arbitration clause anyway). With class action lawsuits, if 100,000 customers were robbed like that, the amount becomes large enough to create problems for those companies. It’s an important deterrent and helps keep the companies in check.
Today, Mr spaghetti tells us how to write a proper pasta recipe
Good luck suing him now :) happy anniversary
I ain't buying. Your attorney's E&O carrier would have been on the hook for your defense costs whether he was alive or not because your lawyer would have interpleaded him into the suit. It seems more likely you just cut and paste a contract to avoid having to pay a professional, which would also explain why it was a crap contract.
Today Mr. Spaghetti almost lose his pasta and starts chasing the spicy meatball