The Issues with the RTX 4050 Mobile
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
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RTX 4050 at 1080p vs 1440p:
• RTX 4050 Mobile // 108...
RTX 4050 (140W) in 22 Games:
• RTX 4050 Mobile // 108...
RTX 4050 (45W) in 15 Games:
• RTX 4050 Laptop (35W-4...
00:00 Intro
00:25 Nvidias 50 Series
02:13 Is the RTX 4050 any good?
04:19 The Advantages
09:51 The RTX 4050 for Work Related tasks 
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I own a RTX 4050 laptop and this video is spot on. I don't have the bandwidth to game constantly so I'm just playing games from my backlog that are at least 3-4 years old. 6 GB of VRAM is great for this scenario at 1080p, but an argument can be made that it's obsolete with minimum requirements nowadays being 8GB of VRAM. Nvidia is really counting on DLSS to fill in the VRAM gap, but it can only do so much. It's the reason why the 6800 XT is considered to be one of the best value GPUs from the previous generation.
im still able to run all newer games at 1080p high settings though right? and still get good fps?
@@beckett29 depends on your definition of high? If you're fine with 60fps then you should be alright. If you want 90fps+ natively then look elsewhere. Also, if you want to play more visually impressive titles then you might be reliant on DLSS which does work very well. I would go the 4060 route for extra assurance for 1080p gaming that should keep up within the next few years.
@@johnnyb13 just wondering, on the benchmarks ive seen of the laptop im getting that has a rtx 4050 6gb version and ryzen 7 7840hs, they are getting well above 100 on high settings in gta, valorant, fortnite, cod and stuff like that. if settings are cranked down it even goes above 200. Am I going to be able to play games at those frames but it's going to stutter really bad or something? I just don't understand it.
@@beckett29 you'll be fine. Fornite, COD, and similar games will output high fps with this GPU since those games are better optimized to include a wide range of audience with different GPUs so you'll be plenty fine. I play mainly single player story-driven games and I get good FPS at 1080p.
@@johnnyb13 thanks!
It's the biggest scam of the decade from nvidia selling cards claiming its "140w" when in reality barely reaches 110w smh
In reality it reaches 75-95w. Not 110 even ;)
BUT it can still achieve it's designed performance, but yeah. It's super unnecessary of them doing that...
Bruh that 105watt 4050 is the same or even better performance than 3060 with 140watt dude
Isn’t that a good thing?
@@user-ev2gv9zk2t yeah it's amazing actually wish i it was 35 watts max
@@user-ev2gv9zk2t it's good but your paying extra money for extra 40 watt which is cannot be used in future, i think they should lower the price for lower power gpu
Historically, the 50 series have been vram limited. It seems like it's for casual budget gamers like myself who intend to play games that came out the same year or earlier, at least the AAA ones.
I'm actually now contemplating on just getting a PS5 by the end of the year instead of upgrading to a 4050 laptop since PC ports of games are always not as optimized.
Why not get a desktop then?
@@goodbusiness9674 I think PC ports not being as optimized just about covers it. Got a laptop for some casual gaming mainly because it's somewhat portable as well. If I'm going to be glued to a certain spot at home, then I think I would just choose PS so I could play those PS exclusives too.
Nope. Don't do it. I mean, unless you already have access to a PC, that's not a good decision at all.
There have been like 2 games this year that have been absolutely terrible ports. One of them has been updated recently which massively increases fps across the board.
I will say that a 4050 will struggle at 1440p or 4k or 1080p with extremely demanding raytracing, but it's still leagues better than the PS5(which is more comparable to a 2060 in a best case scenario), especially with dlss 3.
Plus, the numerous benefits of owning a PC. You're just going to save money in the long run.
Also ps plus is underrated, its pretty much game pass@@dan9806
Don't worry as long as you r not competitive vram won't be a big issue for you
In the time of rtx 3050 i really thought 4gb of vram was pretty bad, even previous generation 1660ti(the one i have) outperforms it in some vram demanding games, but in this generation i believe they did it right, the 50 series has the same vram than 60 series from last gen, dont forget the word entry level, sometimes people want the best of the best but are not willing to pay its price. Now the high price of 4050 laptops are indeed a problem, but i believe it is one that will be fixed in short time when more models arrive. I believe when 50 series is 850 or 900$, you will be getting a lot for the price, otherwise pay a bit more and go for 4060.
Get chinese based ryzen7000 and 4060 then
Later they might sell for $999 with 16"
Yeah the 4gb ram is now these days considered minimum if you play somehow demanding games. But this is just a advice from myself. Even though my own laptop has EGPU connectivity options due to it having thunderboltr 4 build into it. I mostly stick to cloud gaming in terms of newer demanding titles
Currently running a 120W 4060 laptop and the limit at ~90 watts is very confusing for me. In some benchmarks like Furmark, it goes all the way up to the limit, and the results there are pretty crazy (Even beating out some recent benchmarks for desktop 3060 Ti's, 3070s, and even a handful of 2080 supers and even a 2080 ti) Apart from that, I have no complaints, as I'm not really interested in a lot of these newer AAA games, and with my 1080p display I can run pretty much whatever I want at absolute maximum settings, which produces noticeable results with my 165 hz display, especially coming from a 2016 office laptop with a 920 mx and a 720p 60 hz screen.
Even the price I got it for wasn't terrible at all surprisingly. Paid ~1300 for a 4060, 16 gigs of 3200 ddr4, a 512 gb SSD, an i7-13620H, and a 16:10 1080p 165hz display along with a cooling system that keeps temps shockingly low even with a mild overclock. I can even run it with fans on "silent" mode and still get great performance. Additionally, DLSS3 and raytracing in the games that support it is a game changer. Considering there is an additional m.2 slot and an additional ram slot, I'm probably going to throw in another 16 gig stick and a 1 tb SSD (which with today's pricing is somehow under $100 for the both of them)
If you can get a good 4060 laptop for around the same price or even lower, I might even venture to say it's a somewhat good value buy considering the performance and portability you get, even compared to a similar desktop intel/nvidia build (if you factor in the monitor and peripherals) (although an AMD/AMD, Intel/AMD, AMD/Intel or even Intel/Intel build right now seems to be the way to go with nvidia's GPU pricing)
I'm interested what brand of laptop are you using ?
@@nou1534 2023 Asus ROG G16
rtx 4060 45watt vs rtx 4050 140watt which is better?
Hey, I live in New Zealand so prices aren't that great but the new Lenovo LOQ is on sale here. I have been considering the following configurations, was leaning towards the 4060 due to all the vram talk, not sure if I really need a qhd screen or not, would 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 45%NTSC, 350 nits, 144Hz, Narrow Bezel look really bad? I changed all prices to usd
USD
$ 1112 FHD I7-13620H 4050 base
$ 1268 qhd version + 150usd
$1325 4060 + 213usd
$1481 qhd and 4060 + 369usd
Or the legion slim 5i is on sale for $ 1,529.28 i5 13500 4060 qhd .
Yeah if it's in you budget the 4060 version would make sense. Around 20% faster and 2gb more vram for around 15-20% more isn't that bad.
Thank you for pretty fair overview.
It may clarify some nuances in process of choice ;)
Awesome! I'm waiting for rtx 4060 laptop comparison
Dude can you make a comparison between the 6800m and the 4050 or 4060 without frame generation? Watching this video i am extremely confused now.... I think that 6800m will generate lesser frames than the 4060 native without dlss or frame geberation but the 6800m has 12 gb of ram and thats way more future proof than these 4050 and 4060.... And all of them are similarly priced ( i mean the tuf a15, f15 and the strix advantage edition) and i am very confused which one to buy.... Primary and solo purpose is to game.... And very rarely stream... I mainly play forza horizon 5 on a competitive level, and planning to play the upcoming forza Motorsport. Thanks in advance
is the 4050 RTX better than a 6700s RX?
Im thinking to get the Predator Helios Neo 16 but I am torn between getting the 4060 which is priced around $1253$ and the 4050 priced at $1056 both having i5 13500HX, which one should I get? Also other option is Lenovo LOQ 15 with 4050 and Ryzen 5 7640H priced at $984. Can you give your thoughts? Thank you!
Yes. If possible I would advise to get the 4060...
@@Hubwood Thank you!
Spot on with your opinion`s Hubwood. Thankyou.
RTX 4050 140w version which is on legion pro 5 is actually faster than desktop rtx 3060 in rendering, I have tested it on many renders and benchmarks myself, it was even better than 2080 super in blender.
4050 above 80w is 95% performance as 140W .
What about realtime Vport fps, how much this low bandwidth Vram affect the fps . In games like Valhalla Where cpu and GPU are equally utilised it seen unstable fps.
I just ordered an Acer Predator Helios Neo 16, i5 13,500hx with rtx 4050 at 140w as claimed by them for around 1300 USD. Hope I do not regret my purchase, I am not an intensive gamer I just play some games which are around 2-3 older and mostly at 1080p resolution when I'm bored. I was looking for a laptop which is good for day to day and multitasking activities like basic programming, working, watching movies, etc. I am sure the intel 13 gen processor will handle them flawlessly. Also really liked your video, detailed explanation and great information. Keep up the good work! ❤
The laptop will be perfect for your needs :) I don't worry! And thanks!
Bro pls update me cause I also want to buy this variant laptop
@@user-ev2gv9zk2t it is a good laptop bro if you have budget....I don't have any regrets ....
Updates??
The people that are upset don’t mean you can play the game it’s just you can’t play them with crazy high resolution just adjust your settings and you can still play pretty much anything very well I have a loq 15 Ryzen 7 rtx 4050 the developer of games are always making games that outperform or pcs and laptops it’s been that way forever when you buy something you buy it for now and maybe for like games that are in the next 2 years but I personally am ok with that thiers so meny good games I can play and I’m not worried
I m looking at a Acer Nitro 5 Ryen 5 7535hs and Rtx 4050 at around $777 for the Cyber Monday Sale. Is it worth to pick up?
was it?
Would you prefer 4050 140w or 4060 45w and in this case will gap between 6gb and 8gb vram effect much?
i choosed 4050
I got the 85w want to flash the higher bios can you share it?
I want to buy the lenovo legion 5i pro gen 8 with rtx 4060 and i5-13500. I'ts about 100 euros more than the rtx 4050 variant, but i think you get more for your money.
Recently got the MSI Cyborg 15 on sale at Costco for $800 for the price that's really really good normally it sells for $1000. I think it's the cheapest you'll get for a RTX 4050 gaming laptop. You can play majority of the games to ultra to high settings with a some what solid 60 FPS sometimes dipping down to 50 FPS which is not that noticeable to a casual player. The only downside is the storage with only 500GB but for some people that's all you need if you just only play few Triple A titles. I mainly play fighting games and your typical shooter games that's about it. What's your thought's will this be able to run Tekken 8 and Modern Warfare 3 on Ultra settings?
They were selling 4060 cyborgs for 880 on bestbuy, but it is the laptop with serious power limit cuta - 45 wt for pcu and 75 wt for that 4060 if I am not mistaken. So it underperforms severely because of that
@@legart4507 you can bypass it threw flashing it but highly don’t recommend it because there’s no long term information if the GPU and fans will last.
@@RuTo94 exactly. But given that I still had to undervolt my nitro, might not be the worst choice after all 😂
I'm an upcoming film and media student who needs a laptop capable of video editing for my school, do you think a 4050 with 16 gigs of ram is enough for Davinci Resolve at 4k
32gb would be better. But you could start with 16 and see if it works well for you and upgrade the ram later.
The 4050 itself will be fine.
@@Hubwood Thanks for the quick response man, I'll see if I can upgrade one I get it.
I think 4060 75w is the budget option when it comes to vram. Wouldn't you guys agree? I'm thinking of gygabite g5 with 4060 75w for 1099$. It needs upgraded ram but you can do that later.
Yeah the G5 will probably be the Budget King again in terms of FPS per $. :)
Otherwise cheaper RX 7600S or M Laptops could steal that crown... if they exist ;)
Asus A15 with AMD 7735HS, 16Gb RAM , 512Gb SSD with RTX 4050 or rtx 4060 ? I'm on a budget and I want a pc for school and to play some BeamNG and Minecraft.
same today i'm getting mine, i can't wait, it will be good according to the correct reviews and not people saying that 50's series cards cannot run anything
I thought that full wattage (or over 115w) 3060 laptops would be great to buy now since they are faster than similar 4050 laptops due to power scaling, but now the 6gb VRAM seems to be a major limitation. At least the AMD 6600M/S and above have over 8gb of VRAM and usually cost the same
How to choose 799$ legion i5-13500H+3050 6g or 1069$ i7-13700H+4050 6g? The productivity of those CPUS are 10%+ and the improvement of 4050 with 3050 is about 50% but the prize raised 270$ which one should I choose?
50% more performance for only 25% more money + the better cpu. I'd take that if you can afford it...
This explains a lot. I have an Asus TUF A17 with the 4050. I was playing Portal with RTX and there's a test that requires you to create a portal while flying through the air and the stutter is so bad trying to pull this off it's impossible. I lowered the settings to no avail. Sucks to have a 144hz display that the GPU struggles to use.
Try lifting the laptop on a stand so that air underneath the bottom can flow. Could be a temperature problem due to bad cooling system
@@jakk.7489 good point. Also, I had been keeping the laptop on Balanced instead of cranking it up to Turbo.
I recently bought a lenovo legion 5 laptop with rtx 3060(130w) which was on deal at that moment for around 90k inr (1100USD) earlier was thinking of waiting for 4050 but I knew that atleast in INDIA we will not get 4050 at that price point any time soon and definitely not with the build quality, display, looks like the legion series. I am pretty happy with my purchase
Where did you buy it, I was planning to buy the same, 1100? What’s the config?
How did you get it for 90k bro?
acer just launched its predator helios neo with i5 13th gen and 4050 rtx within legion 5 price range
@@sneaky__blinder 7% student discount and 10% card offer
@@sahilrawat421 On the official lenovo website?
Where did you get that clicker you're holding in your right hand?
That's for a Desview Teleprompter ;)
Hi, what do you think about it? Make sense for atl least 4 years gaming in 1080p?
XMG APEX 15 (M23)
1x 15.6" IPS | 1920×1080 px | 144 Hz
1x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop | 8 GB GDDR6
1x AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS
2x 16 GB (32 GB) DDR5-4800 Samsung
1x 2 TB M.2 Samsung 980 PRO | PCIe 4.0 x4 | NVMe
Yeah that should be enough for the next 4 years ;)
@@Hubwood thank you. I should received it in about two weeks. Btw it would be nice to see you testing the XMG laptops. I have heard many good opinions about Schenker laptops.
Ps. Good content :-)
Greetings from Poland!
Hope for an advice. I am buying a gaming laptop for my 11 years old son the choice is between a new LOQ 15 with a i5 12450HS and RTX 4050 at 857UDS or a used HP Omen i7 9750H with a RTX 2060 at 530 USD. after seeing this review I am in doubt if I should go for the used laptop at the RTX 4050 will be outdated soon anyway. My son current play Fortnite, Minecraft, Raft, Tear down...please advice
If you want to save some bucks: he will be fine with the used rtx 2060 for a while with these games.
@@Hubwood thanks, time will come for a more pricey upgrade
I have a laptop with 2060 and am looking at upgrading to one with a 4050 - i can do this for free (via airmiles) but don't have an option of any other card. Is it worth doing?
Well, yeah it's quite more powerful, has the same amount of vram though.
Hey there
I'm very confused between two laptops rn that I'm considering to buy
1. Lenovo LOQ 2024 with i7 13650HX and RTX 4050 its brightness is 300nits
2. Asus tuf f15 2023 with i7 12700H and RTX 4060 its brightness is 250nits
So which one should i go with
I'm a computer's student and I'll play story games on good settings and another thing is about battery bcz Lenovo LOQ has 63whr battery and Asus tuf has 90whr battery
If you can live with the 250 nits the tuf will perform better!
Thank you so much for this video cannot choose between cheaper laptop with 4050 105w and with 4060 140 w that +200euro more expensive. I need it for work, but also 3d modeling, 3d maya, substance painter and games. Metro exodus, God of war. I'm convincing myself that laptop is not good type of device for playing games with highest graphics presets. Maybe it's better to buy cheaper laptop 4050 and later buy PS5 or xbox or good PC with 4070ti. In this case what is the point to buy expensive laptop???🤔 But I'm pretty sure I will want to play in some AAA games Stalker 2 for example. Hard choice))) when have not much money🙈
Which brand with 4060 could you recommend? I was thinking about Dream machine 4050/4060 and lenovo LOQ 4060. I heard legion very good laptops but with 4060 it is too expensive. What would you recommen if budget between 1100-1400$
I still think RTX 4050 is a good card, but the problem is price. Laptops price with RTX 4050 begins with $1000, and you can not play game on Ultra.
Absolutely you can on high fps on 1080p
@@lexavlogs7149 Yeah, in cs:go ......
@@hokopl Well you actually can play a lot of games on ultra just fine on the RTX 4050. Especially older Games and lighter games. Even AAA. But there are more and more games in which the VRAM won't allow that. And that trend will continue and even accelerate.
it can play any game on ultra in 1080 or 1200p with at least 90 fps. if more than 6gb vram is not required it actually outperforms most of 8gb video cards. it outperforms all 3060s except ti version, it outperforms 1080, 1070, 1660 ti and even rtx 2070 and 2080 and I mean this in everything including gaming even without frame generation.
@@GiorgiGachechiladze02 hm no it doesn't outperform all 3060.
With the laptops I've tested the 3060 when faster sometimes and slower sometimes.
And you cannot play the last of us even on high settings on some laptops. Or hogwarts legacy which you'd have to use medium settings in order to get smooth gameplay. Or let alone forspoken.
Hey, there's a laptop from Acer, Nitro 5, i7 12650H, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 8 GB RTX 3070 TI available for around USD 1220. Specs look cool.
But there are downsides too; RAM obviously. Battery is just 53 or 55 WHr and many people who have used it, they have a complaint of thermal issue/ bad cooling; temp rising beyond 90-95°c and some who had 1-2 year old model they complained about CPU being fried i.e. dead laptop i.e. all money down the drain.
So I just wanna confirm from you about it if you've used it or anyone.
I bought the same version pcu with 4060 for 899 just a week ago from acer official store. And there was ddr5 4800 instead of ddr4. And nitros get hot, and full fan load is louder than my vacuum cleaner (I am not exaggerating, me and my wife have actually compared the two).
Its faster than the 3000 series nvidia so of course it is going to heat up more. But does it shut down if it gets too hot? As long as it dont shuts down for little reason when it gets hot. You can try under options like limiting the fps for longevity
@@Preben2024 throtttling does not allow it to shut down.
Please brother guide me. I am currently looking for Acer helio neo 16 with i5 13500hx and rtx 4050 configuration. I will mostly play games that are about 2-7 years old and I will mostly use my laptop for development and coding. Am I taking the right decision? I am getting it at about 1300 dollars.( Country is India).Taxes on electronic goods is high here.
In that case it will be perfectly fine!
I just got a 2021 legion 5 last week which comes with rtx 3060 130 watt and 1440p display at around $1000 . All the other laptops are a lot overpriced . MSI is selling their 4050 45 watt laptops at around $1100 having 45% NTSC display , 105 watt 4060 laptops are priced at $1800 , 4070 140 watt predator is priced at $2500+ . These new 4000 series prices are outrageous in my country . I actually got the 3060 legion for a pretty good deal as all the other 3060 laptops from 2022 like TUFs are around $1300
Also MSI's Alpha , delta laptops with AMD gpus like 6600M and 6700M are around the same price of $1100-1200 but these models really has a poor build quality and MSI's service also sucks in my Country
did u check out Asus TUF Gaming F15/A15?
I know this is 4 months old but you can get a 4070 laptop for around $1200 now
@@jamesw657 yes new releases has surprised me . Even at around ₹100k people got 7840hs 4060 100% srgb 165hz LOQ
@@jamesw657 btw which 4070 laptop is around ₹100k ?
standing between HP Omen 16-n0048no 16,1" Ryzen 9 6900HX 32GB RAM 1TB SSD RTX 3070 Ti VS Asus ROG Strix G17 (2023)
AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX | RTX 4050 Mobile 16 GB RAM, altho I have not played pc games in a very long time, i want to have the best future proof laptop for my money, I will do alot of Zbrush, Maya, Arnold rendering (ray tracing rendering) (around 2,000 USD budget) altho I am a little skeptical for HP omen and overheating, and also the upgradeability is very important concerning RAM memory of the laptop I am choosing, because 3D content is CPU and RAM heavy. The HP omen goes for 1845 USD and the ASUS ROG at 2076 USD
Leaning towards the OMEN but I am a bit wooried about issues that it might have concerning heat , the ASUS ROG seems to have a better build quality. Very thankful for any tips. concering these two.
What is your opinion when using I7-13700H + RTX 4050 + 16 GB DDR4 RAM for the upcoming ea sports WRC? Thinking of adding a wheel as well.
According to EAs system requirements it should run perfectly fine!
@@Hubwood thank you for you reply!
Big thanks bro!! I was about to waste my money on this. It’s good now I know about this VRAM thing🤷🏻♂️
Hi... I am about to get a laptop for blender purposes (3d modeling) and video editing (Davinci resolve). As i am pretty confused at this point as you said in the video and I can't find out much info on this 3060 vs 4050 on content creation... can you please say whether 4050 Asus vivobook (16 gigs of ram) or 3060 such as hp victus and legion 5 (16 gigs of ram) would give the best blender experience and rendering.... Thank you and nice video mate
Cheers. Both GPUs are basically identical for these tasks. We're talking about head to head mostly. Both have 6gb. Both have around the same performance. In that case focusing on other aspects like cpu, ram, ssd or build quality would make more sense :)
@@Hubwood Thank you so much for the help ❤️
10:14 😅 Hi again as you said here why is that 4050 will fail at complex renders using optix pls ??? Also will 3060 handle these complex renders using optix ??? Thank you
@@josephjebarajs3550 optix uses more vram and fails to render if the vram is "full". Regular Cuda rendering uses a bit less vram. And cpu rendering can use the system ram, which is usually bigger.
The 4050 and the 3060 both have 6GB. It doesn't make a difference which of these 2 GPUs you use for blender rendering.
@@Hubwood thanks for the reply bro... So it is impartial of error in both 3060 and 4050 as the matter is vram ?? But which of these might have high render speeds and have you tested the studio drivers in both of these brother ??
Ich hab mir das Acer Nitro 5 AN517-55-54BD bestellt der kommt morgen oder so.
Aber zu meinem Modell finde ich nichts.
Es hat ein I5 12450H und eine GeForce RTX 4050
Meine Frage lautet: Ist es besser als das Model im Video?
Und die wichtigste Frage überhaupt:
Läuft Fallout 3 und new vegas mit mods?
Bitte es wäre nett wenn ich da Infos dazu bekommen könnte
Ich besitze eh eine ps5 für AAA games
Welches Modell meinst du konkret im Video? Und wegen Fallout 3bbrauchst du dir keine Gedanken zu machen. Das vespert auch ein Einsteiger gaming Laptop zum Frühstück ;) auch mit Mods.
I really don't understand the point of this video. NVIDIA has to skimp on VRAM because the 4050 GPU for laptops has to be smaller while still coming close to its sister desktop version, of course they can't just magically cram 8gb of VRAM into a GPU thats smaller and has lower wattage. I have a RTX 4050 w/ AMD Ryzen 7 CPU, and this laptop runs great. And yes, I run Cyberpunk 2077 and Hogwarts Legacy very smoothly with some global graphic tweaks.
So Amd 7600 better option if fsr3 comes ??
Possibly yeah if fsr 3 doesn't flop
rtx 4050 and rtx 3060 laptops price is almost the same in my country . I have rtx 4050 laptop and I am happy with rtx 4050
There is a huge factor which needs to be considered when comparing an older gpu against the 4050, the 40 series GPUs are way ahead in terms of the efficiency and thus being able to fit into slim laptops. If you care about heat, thin design and small form factor, the 4050 mobile is a no brainer.
The 3070ti or even the 1080ti is required to be in bulky 15/16 inch laptop and even so, extremely high temps whilst playing normal games.
Well that's basically always the case.
There have been 35w versions for the 3050 aswell from the start. Very efficient back then (problem beeing 4gb vram)
Newer generations are always more efficient. There also are 60w versions of the 3060 that fit in slimmer laptops aswell.
And the 4050 version With 100w is not meant for slim laptops.
So it really depends.
But of course the low wattage versions of newer GPUs are always a good fit for slim laptops, sure.
I'm getting a 4050 70W variant so how much less fps would it generate than a 90W 4050??
5-15% depending on the game I guess.
How the hell did you get a rtx 4050 to over 100 watts
I am comparing 2 laptops with similar price in my country, lenovo loq 15 irx9 and HP victus 16. Lenovo uses i5-13450HX rtx 4050 tgp 105W, and HP uses ryzen 5 7640HS rtx 4060 tgp 120W. Can you rate which one is better and why?
Both are okay Laptops eachbon their own. But the HP would. Defenitely be the faster one for gaming. The 4060 is just better than the 4050...
@@Hubwood Thanks for the answer
Which is better for work: new acer swift X intel 13th, RTX 4050, 16GB RAM and 1tb ssd OR Macbook air m2 16gb ram 1tb ssd? I want the fastest
Well. That's a good question. The fastest for what exactly? Apple and windows are different in using Apps... I mean which software.
Well, I am an architect and 3d modeller and i am thinking of buying either the Dell G15 5525 with R7 6800h, 16gb ram, and rtx 3060. or the asus tuf a15 2023 with r7 7735hs, 8gb ram , and rtx 4050. both of them are sold almost at the same price here in turkey, and mostly i use software like revit, blender, autocad, 3dsmax, adobe suits and lumion. and i need help in deciding which one to buy. Help please.
I would go for an Nvidia Gpu in that case.sl specifically the one with 16gb.
hello @Hubwood please help. What should I get?
Legion 5 i5 12th gen rtx 3060 140w or
Loq i5 13th gen rtx 4050 105w?
Tia
Price?
Legion 5 $1,388
Loq $1,111
@@greycharm838uhjhug the legion is the overall better laptop, But the 4050 is more energy efficient and supports FG and DLSS 3. And has the better CPU. If you would like to save some money you might get the LOQ. It's alright too :)
Amazing video. You just got a new subscriber.
Since I'm currently comparing two laptops for mainly daily office / multitask use and portability with the possibility of playing games comfortably (occasionally), which one would you choose?
Lenovo Legion 5 15IAH7H, 15.6" Full HD, Intel® Core™ i7-12700H, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, GeForce RTX™ 3060
or
ASUS TUF F15 FX507ZU4-LP040, 15.6" Full HD, Intel® Core™ i7-12700H , 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, GeForce® RTX™ 4050,
Basically almost everything is similar (even the price) but the Lenovo packs a slightly smaller battery (80 vs 90 on the TUF), the Lenovo has DDR5 RAM compared with the TUF which has DDR4 (dunno if thats highly relevant) and obviously the GPU. I've heard some many good things about the 3060 and not so many good about the 4050, and clearly I don´t know both laptops GPU's wattage.
What do you guys think? Help would be really appreciated considering you don´t really even have to answer a random comment :)
P.S: I also put high value in core temperatures and laptop long term health
Well tough decision but probably the Lenovo. For beeing a bit better in overall quality and the ddr5. Spec wise it probably won't make a difference like at all beside that.
4050 and 3060 are VERY similar.
But you can't really go wrong with any of these two...
@@Hubwood Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.
I will definetly bear this in mind!
I own a 4050 laptop and this video seems incorrect. From the benchmarks and games I've tested, it's around 15% to 35% slower than the RTX 2060 6GB that's in my main PC, and around 50-60% slower than the 1080Ti and RTX 2070 Super than you said it's comparable to in this video. TechPowerUp also backs this up. What games did you test it in to get your results? They seem pretty skewed.
Which 4050 laptop do you own and what's the GPUs tdp?
@@Hubwood nvm I just looked it up and it's a much lower wattage RTX 4050. So you're 100% correct, techpowerup must have also accidentally tested a lower wattage version (I just assumed they tested the fastest version lol)
Sorry for commenting without doing research. Your video is great
@@typicalmountainbiker dont feel bad. Nvidia really fcked up with the wattage and the naming. It's very confusing...
Totally agree to be honest, the bare minimum now if you want to play 4K is 16GB (desktop or laptop on its screen or with monitor plugged... Try playing Cyberpunk on 4K and ultra settings with RT on its around 15950 mb for Vram already, yes 4050 is not intended towards 4K gaming and yes cards in this segment do not have the processing power to help even if there was 16 GB Vram, what I mean if a game from 2-3 years like Cyberpunk already uses 16 GB Vram, there should not be any 6 or 8 gb, it's limiting games at lower res and lower settings you don't have to play at 4k, rt, and Ultra settings to be bottlenecked by a 6 to 8 GB of Vram, even 12 Vram will most likely limit you in many title from 2021-2024, if you are buying a desktop though, and have the money and want to game 4k, then by one of those 24+ cards that will be released soon from AMD, Nvidia, those if came with the expected good specs will last you 6 years flat ....
I wanna get a legion pro 5 from this year since they have pretty great sales on the Lenovo website, however their ryzen + 4060 version is out of stock and the intel version is too expensive as my budget is limited to 1700CAD, do you think i should go with the 4050 version which is at the same price as the 4060 that was available or do you think that theyll restock the 4060 at the same price soon ? i sure hope so and for extra info, i work a lot with 3D and i do some video/photo editing in addition to gaming with like Elden Ring and Mw2, i sure plan on playing the next call of dutys and some more upcoming games so i was wondering what is the best choice if you guys can help me
Well, this is not such a simple question and depends on many factors. No one knows how the price will change and how quickly it will happen. If you have a choice between 4050 and 4060 for the same price, it makes sense to wait. The only question here is time. How long are you willing to wait, because life goes on? For example, maybe there will be good discounts on Black Friday, but are you ready to wait that long? In addition, if you do 3D and video editing, it may make sense to buy an Intel laptop, since they are better than AMD in that segment.
@@tataroma4900 well to be honest my biggest issue is here, waiting, i am willing to wait but id say a maximum of like 2 months is i have the guarantee to get the same price, which is very far from being a fact. more than that i am going for the AMD version since it was cheaper with the higher tier CPU and GPU than the intel one which is out of my budget. However if i do decide to go with the 4050 it would be the intel based machine. So right now here is the big issue, Will is be back on the website, and if yes at what price ? other than that thank you for answering !
@@user-lz9xh5xu2l Well, I'm afraid that no one will be able to predict whether a particular model will be available on a particular web-store at a particular price in two months. Why don't you write or even call to the support of that seller and ask them about it? You can ask first if there will be a restock in the next two months, and if they say yes then ask what price is expected. This is the only thing I can advise you. Also, within two months, new models with the same video cards may appear on the market, possibly at a lower price due to competition.
@@tataroma4900 alright alright then i will just ask them and look around what's new for a similar price, thank you for your support really, i appreciate it!
@@user-lz9xh5xu2l If you're on a budget, check out the new HP Victus 16 or HP Victus 15 (2023) with 4060 graphics cards in your country. 15 inch ones are just entering the market, 16 inch ones have been on sale for a long time at a good price. In general, 15" models have a more limited TDP, but maybe size matters to you. 16 inch ones have a higher TDP for video cards. This is a pretty good budget option that has good reviews.
I am currently choosing between aorus 7 with 4050 for $662 and aorus 7 with 4060 for $1,139. Kinda scared about 6gb vram but alan wake 2 seems to run fine being one of the most demanding games. Any advice?
500 is too much for an upgrade. There would probably be other laptops with a 4060 for less money? (not the msi thin or the gigabyte g5 though...)
@@Hubwood there is a katana b12v with 4060 and 12500h for around $793, but as far as I know it is not that good. Screen is bad and cpu in default profile gets above 90 degrees
it should be good enough for the next 3 years, for 1080p medium, right?
Yes, I would assume that :)
I think AMD Radeon make a smart choice for understanding gaming n editing perspective making more vram volume at affordable price. The key is simple heavy games n application needs more vram not iconic brands. So go for AMD radeons 💪
So as long as I play games at 1080p with RTX 4050 it is fine right ?
Yeaaaah well in most cases yes. But some newer games might already become an issue if you'd be using ultra settings. And surely upcoming games will be an issue.
@Hubwood Oh, that would be an issue. Thank you for replying me bro ❤️
Hello ,
should i buy the Acer Nitro 5 with rtx 4050 and i5 12450h for 999€ in my country or do you have a better option for a budget of 1000€?
Btw: Nice Video❤
That actually sounds like an okay price. Which country is that?
@@Hubwood germany
@@johnyasa7788 ja dann auf geht's! Für 999? Wo war das? 😱
@@Hubwood otto
@@johnyasa7788 is auf jeden fall n guter Deal.
any help on deciding the good entry laptop with 4050 for now?
i got some laptop that has been release in my country (indonesia) which is
- lenovo gaming ideapad, R7-7735HS - RTX 4050 85w - 165Hz WQHD 16:9 100%srgb - 8gb DDR5 : 18.899.000 IDR
- Asus TUF A16, R7-7735HS - RX 7600S 95w - 165Hz FHD+ 16:10 100%srgb - 16gb DDR5 : 19.999.000 IDR
- MSI Bravo 15, R7-7735HS - RTX 4060 (still dont knowhow much wattage it take) - 144Hz FHD 16:9 70%srgb - 16gb DDR5 : 18.899.000 IDR (literally the same price as lenovo)
all pricing was using indonesian currency which when you change it to usd will be around 1200 to 1400 USD
Well either the 4060 or 7600s then. Defenitely. The additional price will pay off. I have made a full review on the Asus tuf a16 Advantage you've mentioned. Check it out! I think it's a great laptop!
Wah sama nih bro. Gua juga bingung antara beli lenovo ideapad (layar bagus tapi harus nambah ram), msi bravo (vga bagus tapi layar kurang), atau nunggu acer nitro 16 yang bentar lagi keluar
@@m.nakhwa2175 acer nitro kayaknya ga bakal murah keknya prediksi gw bakal sama kek asus tuf f15 jadinya > 20.000.000
I liked you video and subscribed thank you so much please I am so confused between acer Nitro 5 2023 with and asus tuf a15 which one should I pick I am 3d artist and I need it for game too
I would need more info about the specific hardware the both laptop configurations have. And which software you use.
@@Hubwood I use software like zbrush blender substance painter photoshop unrel engine what do you think and I really want to get rtx 4060 but I am struggling with my budget so is it fine if I get rtx 4050 and I found some cheap laptops on ebay in uk and ther are many good cheap laptops like rtx 3070 with 800 euro can I trust the seller or what do you think about this too
8:39 listen this y'all 💯
The most detailed review of a GPU I have ever seen on RUclips
Can someone tell me how the workflow is during premiere pro?
Bro i don't know if you Need this information After 9 months but the 4050 in Premiere pro Is the best. Only in the start Is slowly
@@MasoniCat thankss, I dont even know why I wanted it to know. I have the 2080 now and it works perfect
@@dumpmuch your welcome. The 2080 Is similar with the 4050 but the First has much Vram. Good chooise
Acer nitro 5 having rtx 4050 or HP Omen having rtx 4050 isn't worth buying? Would I be able to play latest games smoothly?
Luckily my laptop was only $950 it has a rtx 4050 i7 12650h 1tb 16gb ram I also have a desktop ir has a rtx 3060ti and a ryzen 7 5700g
Lenovo LOQ 15IRH8 82XV004HPH| 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) 144Hz i5 13420H | 8GB RAM | 512 SSD | RTX 4050 is this laptop good for Gaming?
Yes. You should add another 8gb of ram though. 8gb only is too small.
I can’t decide between these laptops, someone can help?
• Asus tuf gaming, Ryzen 7735HS with 4050, $1200
• Asus tuf gaming, Ryzen 6800h with 3060 140W, $1312
• MSI katana 15, i7 13620h with 4050, 1230$
Im thinking about streaming, but im mainly worried about the battery life and good temperatures.
the katana is a big no, worst display, single fan, lowest wattage gpu. personally i'll go with the 3060.
@@alimrafif4457 why the 3060 instead of the 4050? Im more inclined to the 4050 because the dlss 3 thingy, but why would u rather the 3060 one?
hmm that asus tuf with 3060 looks promising, though may i ask how many vram does it have?
@@Gargantura it has 6gb of vram
@@m0r4ag what about the other tuf, how much wattage and vram that 4050 have?
I bought a laptop with a RTX 4050 and I7 13th generation 1tb ssd and 16gb ram, its my first laptop ever and for me its a good option, im not upgrading its my first one and I like to play in 1080p, as I can see all games can run in 1080p high to ultra graphics with no problem
any issues yet?
Well done video! I am looking for some feedback. I would not consider myself a hard core PC gamer. I wish to get a new laptop that can excel in software development for Android and can also do some gaming along with video editing, photo editing, web surfing, etc. Best Buy has the following on sale for $899.99 - GIGABYTE - AORUS 15.6" 144Hz Gaming Laptop FHD - Intel i5-13500H - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 - 512GB SSD. If purchased I would likely upgrade the RAM to 32GB of DDR5 and drop in another internal SSD. At this price point - this seems to me like a pretty decent deal. Some pluses for this laptop is that it includes both an HDMI and mini DP port so I can easily hook up two external monitors, it includes two SSD slots, and it also includes Thunderbolt 4. Any thoughts on this unit at that price and/or other units to consider?
It's not a high quality laptop or anything but the price seems okay. It will do fine for the tasks you've mentioned. And upgrading ram and the ssd is a good idea aswell.o
why is rtx 4050 96 bit? Even my old 10 year old laptop was 128bit.
What problem would there be with that number? I don't understand.
That Enter Shikari shirt though
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Hi! I was thinking to buy a Laptop with i71360P with a RTX 4050 45w, 32gb ram ddr5 and 1TB. To work and occasionally play games. But for 200$ more you get the 4060 55W version and 2TB memory. Should I buy the 4060 one?
Well my best guess would be, that for occasionally gaming, in your case, you are fine with the RTX 4050. You're probably nobody that would avoid lowering settings or resolution at all cost :)
I just bought a LOQ 15.6 with a 4050 for $700 at Best Buy. I don't mind the limitations at this price.
Great deal 👍👍👍
Hey, is this a good laptop?
Colorful Evol p15
It is 780$ usd
It is also using rtx4050
Only problem currently showing is overheating
But the spec for this price is extremely good.
Evol p15? Never heard of it 🤷
@@Hubwood can you google search about this lap🥺
Is it possible in future. They will make patch to reach 140?
I doubt that. The RTX 4050 (And 4060 + 4070) all reach their designed Boostclocks with the low wattage.
I think the Voltage Limit on the small chiplets would actually prevent that usage in games.
@@Hubwood thanks! , How about the latest Asus tuf A15 with RTX 4050 + 4060 with 140w ,according to some reviews the RTX 40series (4050 + 4060 mobile) only reach at maximum of 95w, but asus put them at 140w? for what reason? are they expecting that 140w will be available in future if nvidia permits? your though about it
@@KuyaYayee did you check out my video where I talk about the wattage issue? ;)
Finally, GPU equality. 4050 desktop coming in 6GB and 4060 on desktop coming in 8GB VRAM too. That was sad to hear and heartbreaking at the same time. Guess this is it for the next-gen gaming. There is no point gaming higher than 1080p since so many badly optimized games released these days even 1080p gaming being too demanding. VRAM not maxed out is a RTSS scam. It's actually bottlenecked heavily. According to Tech YES City where they discussed 8GB is the bare minimum for the newer titles with no Ray Tracing. I like NVIDIA features which AMD don't have like Shadowplay and DLSS for instance. If not then Imma go with AMD instead. For productivity and editing, it's very doable, just make sure you have enough RAM and gitgud display and that's all about it.
Lenovo legion 5 pro with rtx 3070 or any laptop with rtx 4050?
Rtx 3070 has 8 gb of RAM..
I was getting doubtful, after hearing vram is important for future games 😅
Lenovo legion 5 pro with rtx 3070 or Lenovo Legion Pro 5 with rtx 4060
3070 will be better than 4050
In that case is go for the 4060 to get Frame Generation and DLSS 3.0
I mean, in my country, the rtx 3070 (legion 5 pro) has same price as rtx 4050 (lenovo gaming 3).. The rtx 4060 (msi/asus rog) way to expensive.. 😅
So I guess i should go with rtx 3070 eh?
@@mohamadprayogi1922 yes!
Can someone chime in? im confused about one fact with these gaming laptops, can you use the gpu when the laptop is not plugged in to the wall?
In theory yes. But not all laptops provide enough power for gaming on battery. In some cases the performance is drastically reduced. It works better with amd cpus usually as they're more efficient on battery. But in general you can use the GPUs on battery. But it will drain super fast. 1-2 hours max in most cases.
Still that 100watt issue is there???
Yes. It is designed that way. That won't be fixed in the future.
I onestly love the 4050 but i have an extreme niche use cases.
I have a z13 that i use only with the screen and 6-P cores active; so i basically use 65w total with all the PC.
For me it's basically the handheld i want, with a couple of 100w Powerbank you can achieve 6 hours of gaming with performance that igpu can't never reach.
And basically you're still on battery.
It's not a good card overall, but it's impressive for the performance per watts.
That's a good use case though :)
It's a good beginner/entry lvl card. It's just that the 6gb should have been 8 ;)
@@Hubwood absolutely right, I would be really curious if they could achieve an handheld with maybe a 5050 or something low power form Nvidia in the future.
Time will tell
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico not sure if we will need that. The next AMD iGPU generation is to be expected 30% faster than the last already. Coming soon. Probably at an even lower wattage. Maybe the low power dedicated GPU section will be replaced by that completely.
@@Hubwood I'm not that convinced; looking at the upcoming games+ the few UE5 put right now.
They're so demanding even on my 4090 that I think it will be similar to right now with the steam deck.
Great machine as a companion, to a main PC; unfortunately way underpowered to achieve a decent performance (without crashing the graphics quality) in the heaviest games
I have an Asus tuf a 15 rtx4050 in Cyberpunk at maximum graphics, ultra ray tracing TGP reached 100/120 w.
100 is possible in some scenarios. But not above that.
Unreal engine 5 is running?
Yes, of course :)
I think it's good step to get it if u had an old mobile. 😊
Given that new models with 4050 (like 13th gen intel pcu) are at the same price as 12th gen with 4060 - there is no point in buying any laptops with 4050
Is rtx 4050 good for running ue5 ? Please respond
Yes, it will work fine.
@@Hubwood thanks
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Hi, having trouble picking between these 2 Legion 5 laptops,
82RB00DNCC (Refurbished - Excellent) - Lenovo Legion 5 15IAH7H 15.6" - Intel Core i7-12700H (14 Core) 16GB RAM(15.6") - 1TB SSD Windows 11 Home - RTX 3060 $1,179.99
82WK0005US (NEW) - Legion Pro 5i Gen 8 Intel (16") - Intel Core i5-13500HX with 16GB RAM, - 512 GB SSD - RTX 4050 $ 1,303.59
They seem to be almost identically matched
Well for 120 I'd take the new one. Speed would be mostly Identical but the 4050 has FG and dlss3
Thank you, your advice really helped, ordering now!@@Hubwood
My 3060 draws 140w and my i7-11800h draws 80w it is definitely performance favoured pc
I do think the 4050 has a place if you mostly play e-sports such as fortnite, but 1440p is more for the 4060 and upwards..
Absolutely right. But as I mentioned alot of 4050 gaming laptops get 1440p screens now. Playing at 1080p can seem blurry depending on the game and if you're sensitive to that. 😐
nah, 3060 at high wattages gives more FPS than 4050 at 95w(which is max wattage it uses at any game), if you want to take more FPS with 4050 you have to turn on FRAME GENERATION which creates lag delay latency as far as I heard and that is bad for e-sport games no doubt. tell me If am wrong
doesnt matter witch laptop you have they all get hot and will screw down. Im completly fine with my 4050 laptop overwatch 2 in epic with 144 frames and 144hz screen in 1080p. Even Resident Evil 4 with dlss reach the 144 frames in high settings. I can play every game for my work/travel laptop for 799 bucks its a nice deal and a good graphic card. Dont forget its a Laptop not a desktop pc.
I can not fully understand how the games are using that much VRAM. I am using an RTX3060 and at 1440p is is only using about 3.5 GB VRAM max in all my games.
Really depends on the game.
@@Hubwood I play Cann of Duty MW2, PUBG and Rainbow Six Siege.
my 5 years old laptop have 4gb vram. year is 2023 still talking about 6gb vram no wayyy. guys buy at least 8gb vram 4060 if u wanna play next 3-4 years upcoming games.
What's better getting a 4050 laptop or building a pc with Similar performance.
Can anyone tell what's equivalent to 4050 mobile at desktop side(which are available in current market ,as I'm unable to buy those 2070 super card as they aren't sold in my country.)
Rtx 3060 / RX 6700 and such :)
And that way you could most certainly build a cheaper desktop with better performance for the same amount of money.
DLSS works so well that nvidia keep vram low so that you will have to keep upgrading.
Still the rtx 4050 outperformed my gtx 1650 gddr5 😅. I dont really play AAA games im just casual gamer who play R6 or valorant and i think 4050 is more than enough
In that case it will absolutely serve you well ;)
@@Hubwood still waiting for Acer nitro, do you have any information for Acer nitro?
I mean a 4050 laptop would not be bought with the expectation of being future-proof. It is sufficient to play most current games in accepatble 1080p quality (though I agree, in 1440p one has to experiment a bit with ingame settings). As entry-level gaming laptop, I think a 4050 RTX should be fine. You want to play some Fortnite and sort, and that is possible. Baldur's Gate 3, Witcher 3 and other titles also run well if you use appropriate settings, and those games still look good. Not everyone would need highest fps in Cyberpunk.
True. Not gonna argue on that ;)
I don't see why people are having issues with this graphics card. Are you guys looking for 72738fps or something? I have One and play everything on this card and have no issues with it. I get smooth 60fps minimum in everything including the atrocious star citizen and swtor ECT. Iv seen people complaining it couldn't play rdr2 and I was playing that smoothly on a GTX 1050.
I'm thinking major user error
Yeah sure it can do all these things. Depends on the game and the settings. Though once your Vram is too small it's becoming really stuttery. If you're fine with lower settings or play lighter games you'll be fine.