Harry Potter Secret Plots Iceberg Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @VaultLore
    @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +22

    Enjoy the vid everyone! Let me know which ones I missed!

    • @adorhym12
      @adorhym12 7 месяцев назад +2

      Professor Binns was a ghost teacher for Muggle Studies albeit a boring class, was the original class where Hermione asked about the CoS he denied her request, but that seems pretty big info about a ghost storyline.

    • @adorhym12
      @adorhym12 7 месяцев назад

      Level 2 The other reason was Lupin died insted so as to have a mirrored type of life as Harry albeit a much better one, Parents died fighting Voldemort, not super present Godfather(Harry), and cared for away from the Wizarding World (somewhat) by his grandmother Andromeda.

    • @InternetDarkLord
      @InternetDarkLord 3 месяца назад

      If you make iceberg videos, the next should be the................................................RMS Titanic. Lots of lore and legends!

  • @ShapesWithoutColors
    @ShapesWithoutColors 9 месяцев назад +61

    Vampire stuff that was popular in the 90s - buffy, blade, underworld, interview with a vampire and queen or the damned, from dusk til dawn, the Lost boys, and episodes of shows like are you afraid of the dark, x files, outer limits, goosebumps, and probably more.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +3

      Ah true, didn’t watch a lot of those

    • @ceilingsintheireyes6288
      @ceilingsintheireyes6288 3 месяца назад +3

      Underworld was 00s

    • @DevilboyScooby
      @DevilboyScooby Месяц назад

      I don't remember any vampires in X-Files? Might be due a rewatch...

    • @julesrules7297
      @julesrules7297 Месяц назад

      ​@@ceilingsintheireyes6288🙄

  • @magic8ball1982
    @magic8ball1982 6 месяцев назад +66

    I think it's funny how Fudge went from the Muggle head of government who tries to warn everyone of Voldemort to the wizarding head of government who tries to sweep it under the rug.

  • @horusmasterjc
    @horusmasterjc 7 месяцев назад +75

    He sent nagini to scout because he didnt want the death eaters to know the words of the prophecy out of distrust or lack of belief in them, he cared more for the snake

    • @TheTytoGaurdian
      @TheTytoGaurdian Месяц назад +2

      Only Voldemort or Harry could've obtained the prophecy from the Hall of Prophecy. Voldy sent the snake because he was possessing Nagini at the time. I belive Snape and/or Dumbledore confirms this at some point.

  • @YourNeighborhoodItalian
    @YourNeighborhoodItalian 7 месяцев назад +54

    I like to think Snape was an animagus that turned into a bat. He learned James and the Marauders had done it and wanted to match their achievement. He also may have wanted to spy on them by flying around at night trying to see what they were up to

    • @janicewinsor4793
      @janicewinsor4793 6 месяцев назад +6

      That sounds very plausible

    • @ThePsywren
      @ThePsywren Месяц назад

      I’m of the opinion that Lily was the one that taught him to fly, which inspires him to teach the DL to fly.

  • @NeverKissSomeFrog123
    @NeverKissSomeFrog123 9 месяцев назад +32

    I always thought Hermiones last name was Granger because it sounds like „stranger“, since she is discriminated against for being perceived as an outsider in the story. So that name might underline her being different

  • @ThePsywren
    @ThePsywren Месяц назад +4

    24:45 Nagini was his actual most trusted ally. As a maledictus, rather than an animagi, she could no longer achieve her human form.
    Voldy, being well aware of the enchantments protecting The Prophecy in the hall of the Department of Mysteries by having ordered an Unspeakable (Broderick Bode) to be Imperiused and encouraged to retrieve it, was confidently sending Nagini on anti/counter intelligence probes. It is possible that he believed that she could retrieve the Prophecy being in her animal form.
    It’s assumed that by the time of the reformation of the Order of the Phoenix, that she was “stuck” as a snake, and also made into a Horcrux; and, so, in keeping with this notion she would be virtually indestructible.
    Her attack of Arthur Weasley was, otherwise, undetectable, without her having been turned into the one creature that Voldy was convinced that he, alone, could communicate with, and, therefore, command.
    To me, at least, it seemed like she was used as an experiment/test subject to gauge, not only Dumbledore’s response, but also the security of the MoM, itself. He knew better than to just stroll into the Ministry, even though he was one of the parties eligible to retrieve the Prophecy.
    It seems, to me, at least, that he was testing the boundaries of his Horcruxes and whether or not they could fully and physically act on his desires.
    Sending Nagini was, ultimately, the same as sending the Diary. Tom would be able to affect time/space/opportunity without actually being present. It is possible that he believed that Nagini, bearing an essential part of him (his soul), might be able to retrieve the Prophecy, and that he believed that by her being a Horcrux, she might escape the plight that had befallen Bode.
    Her attacking Arthur Weasley and it being simultaneously conveyed to Dumbledore probably seemed an impossibility to the wizard who believed himself to be the most clever and covert.
    I don’t honestly think that Voldy had even considered himself to have been connected to Harry had even occurred to him before the attack in the DoM….
    Unfortunately, it seems that Nagini was to be used, experimentally, to determine whether or not his Horcruxes could be sustained in the face of Deep/Enduring Magic, such as that of the DoM. Essentially, he sent Nagini to strike at a brick wall/magical stronghold in order to test the depths of his understanding of Magic.
    The fact that she attacked Arthur was likely an inevitable happening, as she probably would have attacked anyone she had encountered there (the Order was performing secret surveillance operations just outside of the DoM).
    So, to answer your question regarding why do I think Voldy sent Nagini into the DoM in his place: it’s simply a symptom of his fear of Death/dying that led him to use Nagini in the ways that he did. And, although, he did eventually show his face in the MoM, he, ultimately, believed that no one alive would/could or had tested the depths of magic in the way that he had. It was, seemingly, pure arrogance that had motivated him to make use of Nagini as one of his indestructible, but verbally manageable, ‘toys’ to probe the DoM for the information that Snape either couldn’t or wouldn’t give him about the Prophecy. She would have attacked anyone, irrespective of who they were if they were there, because those were her orders. And, I believe that, if it hadn’t had been Arthur Weasley on patrol that night, she would’ve killed anyone else who had been there, on her Master’s orders.

  • @cmillerpa33
    @cmillerpa33 9 месяцев назад +109

    I went from hating draco to feeling sorry for him. It worked well.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +4

      😔

    • @redreaper2752
      @redreaper2752 6 месяцев назад +13

      Yes. The only good thing about The Cursed Child was witnessing his full redemption. That’s the only thing my mind considers cannon about that fiasco. Thank goodness I didn’t go through with spending thousands of dollars traveling across the country to see it during its first run in New York.

  • @aon02b
    @aon02b 6 месяцев назад +27

    37:35 okay, but the Weasleys are related to the Black family and the Malfoys.
    Sirius Black and Arthur Weasley are second cousins once removed.
    In fact, all the pure-blood families are related, according to Sirius.
    We also do get several Slytherins that did good things:
    Sirius' brother Regulus (who was obviously also a cousin of Arthur Weasley's) sacrificed himself in order to destroy a horcrux.
    Draco Malfoy purposely didn't tell on Harry when the Golden Trio was trapped at Malfoy manner. And we know it was on purpose because even if he didn't completely recognise Harry (which seems unlikely), he would've still recognised Ron and Hermione right away.
    Snape might be a bully, but he still saved Harry's life several times.
    Saying that Slytherins never do anything good is simply not true.

    • @pussygangster5976
      @pussygangster5976 4 месяца назад

      Andromeda Tonks and Horace Slughorn also was in Slytherin. Freaking Merlin was.

  • @thethriftytypewriter
    @thethriftytypewriter 7 месяцев назад +29

    As someone who (thought he) knew everything about Harry Potter, this video was thoroughly compelling. I didn't know about 90% of this video and that surprised me in the best way. Great video, keep up the great work!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +2

      Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @thethriftytypewriter
      @thethriftytypewriter 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@VaultLore You got my sub when you faked me out over saying George Weasley's death 🤣 Great bit of misdirect for the audience there

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂 glad I got at least one person

  • @R0CKDRIG0
    @R0CKDRIG0 9 месяцев назад +22

    I don't remember where, but I heard a rumor that Ron was initially set to have Cedric Diggory's plot in Goblet of Fire and die at the end. It is weird how easily you can see it fitting, and honestly I kinda think it would have set the series for a more interesting, darker, sober path.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +7

      For sure would have been darker, I’m not sure if I works have liked it, it might have felt a little empty without Ron

    • @gg-sr9lq
      @gg-sr9lq 7 месяцев назад +10

      Strong disagree, killing off characters isn’t necessary to make something more serious or dark, and Ron was a perfect balance for the trio

    • @neverstopschweiking
      @neverstopschweiking 6 месяцев назад +5

      However, imagine killing of one of the twins this way. It would move the death to a point much earlier in the story and set a tone to "now the fun is over, darkness comes".

    • @wodensol5000
      @wodensol5000 6 месяцев назад +1

      This. It should have been someone close that we knew from the beginning, not someone introduced in that film. Rowling had plenty of people to choose from - Neville could have been a perfect choice, for example. ​@@neverstopschweiking

    • @VornameNachname-hi8or
      @VornameNachname-hi8or 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@wodensol5000 Neville had one of the best arcs in the series that's why we retrospectively see him as an important character. In IV, he still was a side-character whose death wouldn't have shocked us too much...

  • @Faceplay2
    @Faceplay2 2 месяца назад +5

    You’re forgetting that when she was writing the franchise, yes that was before twilight, but that was the hype of blade and underworld being very very popular.
    Remember, she was making the stories in the 90s and early 2000s.

  • @acereraktalks
    @acereraktalks 2 месяца назад +4

    29:16 there was a vampire movie in 1922, and Dracula before that. Vampires have always been big.

  • @Den.Vos.Reynaerde
    @Den.Vos.Reynaerde 9 месяцев назад +7

    'Spungen' is the surname of Nancy Spungen, Sex Pistol Sid Vicious' drug addicted girlfriend-from-hell.

  • @lukekendrick4271
    @lukekendrick4271 8 месяцев назад +8

    You get a sub, going to sleep to this now lol g’night y’all

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      Sleep well 😴

    • @lukekendrick4271
      @lukekendrick4271 8 месяцев назад

      And I get to wake up to this nice comment. Life is good

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      Appreciate you!

  • @fineggb1
    @fineggb1 9 месяцев назад +8

    Fella I just want to say your channel is great and has quickly become one of my favourites! Good pacing to the videos and great personal insight! Looking forward to much more content across multiple franchises and series

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      What a kind comment! I appreciate you! Any other franchises you’re interested in?

    • @fineggb1
      @fineggb1 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore anything with deep lore. Hunger Games, LOTR, WestWorld, Black Mirror, Dune. Even books such as 1984 and Brave New World or a clock work Orange, there’s not a heap of content out there for them. I think you would make good videos covering ‘down the rabbit hole’ style stories too if you wanted to step away from the iceberg format! Keep it up and your channel will explode.. quality always comes to the top

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +1

      Good suggestions! Thanks for watching, I hope to expand in the future!

  • @Case2_0
    @Case2_0 6 месяцев назад +6

    When it comes to people seeing under the cloak, I feel like Dumbledore put a spell on it kind of like Gandalf’s rune on Bilbo’s door. Mad-eye could simply also see the rune with his magic eye.

  • @IM125
    @IM125 9 месяцев назад +6

    Lily was a charms master obviously, she was capable of really advanced magic. In that memory from snape I think, she was able to let go of the swing and seemingly fly. In that vein, could it be possible that she was commissioned by someone, perhaps the French ministry of magic, to protect the stone. So that flower that she gave to slughorn is actually the stone which turns back into the stone when she dies and is also why slughorn is on the run to begin with.

  • @adorhym12
    @adorhym12 7 месяцев назад +7

    Lily was suppossed to be pregnant when killed that night by Voldemort, George danced twice with Ginny at her wedding in place of Fred those are two I found out about that are canon.

  • @DaxterSnickers
    @DaxterSnickers 7 месяцев назад +10

    Braille books? What about audio books? Where the German synchronisation by Rufus Beck is the best one I've ever heard. He makes all the special voices and has a really smoothing voice.
    Also, there is a blind wizard in Harry Potter, fanfiction. 'Geheimnisse der Vergangenheit', 'Geheimnis der Dementoren', 'Der geheimnisvolle Wohltäter' from Tom Börner, starting at HP2 and beyond running parallel to the OG story. It is in German but it's an awesome story.
    There is also a HP podcast by Coldmirror, also German, which goes over the entire 1st HP movie telling trivial facts.
    It's a shame that it's not available in English but maybe hopefully you can get far enough with a translation tool. It's worth it in my opinion.
    Apart from that, I really love your videos. Well done, good voice, almost full knowledge. Kann man nicht meckern.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +3

      Danke schön!

    • @kungfuhskull
      @kungfuhskull 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@VaultLore as an translation tool I'd recommend "deepl" - it's pretty accurate and works for more than good enough for long texts. And better than google translate (but didn't use for that for text - because deepl was years ago already better)

    • @kungfuhskull
      @kungfuhskull 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@VaultLore I would recommend "deepl" for translation of German text to English. Already a few years ago it worked better and more reliable than the version of the most used search engine. (German is my mother language btw)
      Hope that helps out and keep up your great videos!

  • @dphylan
    @dphylan 9 месяцев назад +4

    Another great video man! Awesome stuff!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Appreciate it! Thanks for the support!

  • @mikebrown1881
    @mikebrown1881 9 месяцев назад +18

    Pyrite doesn’t mean « fool’s gold » it’s the scientifique name of the rock witch common name is « fool’s gold ».

  • @cmillerpa33
    @cmillerpa33 9 месяцев назад +7

    Just showed up in my feed. Liking the content so far.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @silverliening6511
    @silverliening6511 Месяц назад +1

    When I was still a kid and the books were still being written I remember seeing a blog or webpage where someone was saying that in early drafts Blaise Zabini was originally going to be a member of the main group. That he would have filled that friendly Slytherin role I wish the series had. They also said thats why he we know a bit more of his background.
    I do think it was just a fan theory but I do remember they had a couple sketches of him with the trio.
    While most probably not real its an interesting idea to think about especially considering his mother/family life and being a slytherin. it'd be interesting to see what kind of character he'd be in the later books if he did become their friend, or at least friendly.

  • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
    @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 9 месяцев назад +4

    Basically that is what Deatheaters are supposed to (partially)be represented as: Ignorant group of cultists following someone who is both a cultic leader and is an Occult being himself.

  • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
    @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 9 месяцев назад +5

    If Flamel's death had happened before Harry Potter's first birthday, that definitely would've defeated the whole following plotlines of the Philosopher's Stone deal: The attempted robbery at Gringotts, the enchanted puzzles under the trap door to get to the new location of the Mirror of Erised where the stone was supposed to be protected; None of those would have existed for the purpose of the story without the stone's ability to keep Flamel alive by the day after the Quirrell/Voldemort vs Harry Potter showdown.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +1

      Eh maybe, I think they still would have wanted to keep it out of voldemorts hands, right?

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Not that the trap doors and puzzles really would have stopped him… 😂

    • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
      @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore ; But Dumbledore's trick with the Mirror of Erised has stopped him and would've done so because that was the actual part of the puzzles that I was referring to.😉 We, should all know by now that everything that Dumbledore and Voldemort put Harry through in Harry's first year was for the purpose of his character growth taking root which also supposed to benefit for the character growth for Hermione and Ron, without all that, we would've barley hit a dead end in knowing the characters better for later stories, if additional obstacles didn't exist and the reveals about Harry's family would have been more confusing than just to put him at a crossroads by the events of year 5 when he does finally find out who his father used to be😅.🤝

  • @maxguam4830
    @maxguam4830 4 месяца назад +4

    Interview with a vampire and bram stokers Dracula had both come out around when jk was working on the early books and they were both big in the media cycle. Then there was also buffy the vampire slayer that was also a huge deal. Blade also hit around that time, from dusk til dawn. So there was definitely a bit of a vampire craze in media at the time

  • @ImVexuli
    @ImVexuli 9 месяцев назад +2

    What you mentioned at 19:40 .. I'm the exact same way.. idk why, but I lose interest in it or lose focus instantly.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Haha literally just jump past it

  • @nazasmr1632
    @nazasmr1632 9 месяцев назад +4

    Your channel is my favourite please keep doing what you do.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      I appreciate it! Thank you for watching!

  • @Loganberry
    @Loganberry 9 месяцев назад +3

    You really do a great job with these videos, another banger. Thanks for this

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      I appreciate it! That’s for the positive feedback and thanks for watching

  • @Borring112
    @Borring112 6 месяцев назад +2

    yo, congrats on 10.000!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you!! Next stop 100,000!!

  • @gustav5473
    @gustav5473 3 месяца назад +2

    Really interesting to listen to! Could you maybe make another videos covering the early drafts of the philosopher’s stone? (and the other books too if available)

  • @henryd98
    @henryd98 7 месяцев назад +2

    Very very good video, its been a while since ive heard of hary potter content i wasnt aware of

  • @apollocj1658
    @apollocj1658 9 месяцев назад +3

    commenting for the algorithm, keen to watch this one in full!

  • @Itsameeea
    @Itsameeea 9 месяцев назад +3

    I think i finally found the perfect channel for me 🙌

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +2

      Yay!! Welcome!

  • @awinter2807
    @awinter2807 2 месяца назад +1

    Pyrites is super close to the name of the sorta-main bad guy in Tad Williams’ Memory, Sorrow and Thorn

  • @sickgnasty7244
    @sickgnasty7244 7 месяцев назад +8

    New here, love the content. But my god, it feels like there an ad every 5 minutes

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +9

      I don’t actually decide when RUclips shows you ads, they have a profile on you as a viewer that determines how many ads they can show you. Appreciate you watching the content! The ads help give me the time and freedom to make more.

    • @ceilingsintheireyes6288
      @ceilingsintheireyes6288 3 месяца назад

      Yeah there are way too many

  • @Batnano
    @Batnano 7 дней назад +1

    is so cool to see her notes and stuff, just a normal person writing random names and stuff, all stuff that would become extremely known by everyone in the world...

  • @hassledvania
    @hassledvania Месяц назад +3

    I like these videos a lot but it feels like every other minute youre asking the viewer to subscribe or watch another video or "Let me know in the comments!"
    I think it does cross the line into sounding a bit desperate, Id tone it down.

  • @snacklamore1161
    @snacklamore1161 7 месяцев назад +2

    Just subbed! Keep up the awesome work 👏

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Thanks for watching!

  • @imtheparty12
    @imtheparty12 Месяц назад +1

    I'd love to see you do this kind of coverage with The Inheritance Cycle. You've brought up Eragon in another video. Eragon and Harry Potter were formative books for me as a kid and teenager later. They laid out my desire to write my own fantasy book. That, and of course, Lord of the Rings.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  Месяц назад

      Damn, an eragon series would be a throwback. That was the fantasy world I wanted to live in (as long as I had powers haha) so I might have to do it at some point! I’ve got a bunch of HP videos in the hopper, so those will come first but after that….

  • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
    @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 9 месяцев назад +2

    In the earlier Lego sets from Harry Potter years 1 and 2 they had a sorting turn table platform in stead of the sorting hat itself, this was also done for the Lego Creator Harry Potter games too. So, I wonder if that turntable platform was based on both the pre-drafted house sorting machine and the representation of the Sorting Hat? Because I thought the platform itself looked a bit out of place for it to be in the story that I know today.

    • @imperfectionist2575
      @imperfectionist2575 9 месяцев назад +1

      Pretty sure that's more a matter of Lego caring more about making something interactive to play with, not true-to-book/movie showpieces.
      Not sure about exact timeline, but I'm sure book version came before the Lego ones... movie one may well have too.

    • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
      @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 9 месяцев назад

      @@imperfectionist2575; I am well aware that the Lego sets came out before the movies, but that is the irrelevant part of my question, but, I guess what you saying is that it is probably just a coincidence that the Lego Harry Potter sorting platform just happen to resemble roughly on one of Rowling's sketch notes.👌👍🤝😅

  • @liquidl6665
    @liquidl6665 9 месяцев назад +2

    good video!!! keep it up

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @freyja8384
    @freyja8384 2 месяца назад +1

    This video came to me via the algorithm and I only put it on to fall asleep to since it was the perfect length for it to me and I figured it would all be stuff I've heard a million times before but it was way too interesting so I listened to the whole thing laying in bed with my eyes closed without falling asleep 😂 you just earned a new sub😊

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  2 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha sorry to keep you up. Thanks for the sub!

  • @EternalChamp
    @EternalChamp 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great video, very informative. Narration is quite good.
    If I may, please consider the ambience of the video. Perhaps some background music?
    I subbed homie you deserve a lot more. Thank you 😊

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +2

      I’ll consider it! I don’t want it to be too distracting so I’ll have to work on it. Thanks for watching!

    • @rainbowGZUS7
      @rainbowGZUS7 9 месяцев назад +1

      Instead of music, how about real life ambiance ​sounds of footsteps from your upstairs neighbor, and people chewing with their mouth open, dogs barking, and distant tornado sirens. @VaultVideosYT

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Thought about general ambiance, maybe I’ll add ambient rain in the next one.

  • @KingChronoss
    @KingChronoss Месяц назад +1

    34:46 I'd hate to see him die but that would have been kino for him to die in a way that mirrored the chess tactic where he died so the others can beat Voldemort's strongest "piece" and win

  • @benblakesley3547
    @benblakesley3547 9 месяцев назад +2

    Underrated channel ⚡️⚡️⚡️

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you!! Spread the word :)

  • @alphacraig4784
    @alphacraig4784 8 месяцев назад +3

    Earned my sub 😎

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @melissaeight481
    @melissaeight481 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great Job!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @westzed23
    @westzed23 7 месяцев назад +2

    Just suggested this video. I really like how you have presented these ideas. Subscribed. 🙂💜⚡️

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching, I appreciate you!

  • @dorothymukon7616
    @dorothymukon7616 2 месяца назад +1

    What if the tusk disappeared after nick was killed? When a wizard dies cast spells are removed, ie when dumbledore died the body bind he put on Harry was removed.
    The tusk lady had nick killed as a full proof way of getting rid of the tusk rather than waiting for him to get rid of it.

  • @jameshamilton6381
    @jameshamilton6381 9 месяцев назад +5

    42:20 literally everything Trelawney predicted came true... That's the running joke.

  • @DaxterSnickers
    @DaxterSnickers 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hermione Puckle Gun. The Puckle gun is a tripod-mounted, single-barreled flintlock weapon fitted with a manually operated revolving cylinder. Puckle advertised its main application as an anti-boarding gun for use on ships.

  • @FracturedPixel
    @FracturedPixel 16 дней назад +1

    "Everyone going to see the movies, had likely already read the books"
    Oh you sweet summer child

  • @sbeaber
    @sbeaber Месяц назад +1

    What are you talking about? Knights of Walpurgis goes hard. Plus it has a "nice" connection to the white guys in white pointy hats

  • @garad123456
    @garad123456 6 месяцев назад +2

    Snape was already the redemtpion arc. Draco was the character we are wondering about how evil he is. Adding a clear redemption would have been cheesy

  • @Faceplay2
    @Faceplay2 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey, I know this is a random thing to bring up but me and my wife actually talked about this and I’m actually a professional movie maker so I don’t work with a Books, but I do a bit of writing myself.
    I think another reason why she may have not had vampires on top of popular franchises being out back in the 90s. Is think about just tell overpower vampires are in popular media, immortal superstrength, super speed. Usually vampires or magic welders themselves.
    It would sort of make being a wizard sort of redundant at that point.
    My point is in popular media when people think of a werewolf, they usually think of someone being Kirsten, turning into a beast once a month that they can’t control.
    Versus a vampire is typically depicted as the ultimate creature of the night.

  • @kyleethekelt
    @kyleethekelt 3 месяца назад +1

    It's not entirely true that the Slytherins never do any good in the book. Slughorn turns up as part of the reinforcements to fight the final battle following Harry's resurrection.
    "And now there were more, even more people storming up the front steps, and Harry saw Charlie Weasley overtaking Horace Slughorn, who was still wearing his emerald pyjamas. They seemed to have returned at the head of what looked like the families and friends of every Hogwarts student who had remained to fight, along with the shopkeepers and homeowners of Hogsmeade. The centaurs Bane, Ronan and Magorian burst into the Hall with a great clatter of hooves, as behind Harry the door that led to the kitchens was blasted off its hinges." (DH, Ch36).
    Presumably he saw his students to safety before doing so, but he could easily have chosen otherwise.
    Also, I think the sorting statue idea is quite interesting, I,personally, would have been quite entertained to find the Founders arguing over student choices. What would have had to happen if those arguments had turned into a scrap? They didn't exactly get along by the time they died.

  • @Subakashi
    @Subakashi 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bro! the ghost in the last movie! Ravenclaw's daughter who basically directed Tom to one of the objects he used as a horcrux and later hinted Harry to where it was hidden

  • @Predaguy
    @Predaguy 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think Voldemort sent Nagini to scout for the prophecy because he can physically see through her eyes, in the same way he and Harry can look through each other. The Horcrux connection.
    Since prophecies can only be retrieved by the subjects of the prophecy, maybe Nagini could have actually retrieved it, since she possesses part of Voldemort's soul.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Oooh interesting idea. I forgot about that, it doesn’t seem super clear if the bad effects of picking up a prophecy that isn’t about you are innate to prophecies themselves, or just a protective thing the ministry of magic places on them..

  • @archersteele221
    @archersteele221 7 месяцев назад +3

    I wonder if any elements of the sorting hat ideation were revived for the goblet of fire.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      Oh good question, could be

  • @DevilboyScooby
    @DevilboyScooby Месяц назад +2

    "Ford Anglia. Ang-lea? I don't know. I'm not British."
    Neither is Ford 😂

  • @Dasusify
    @Dasusify 5 месяцев назад +2

    at 2:38 you have a bit of a slip and say "that's why we'll probably never see another game of thrones book ever again", which... might be true, but probably not due to JKR.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  5 месяцев назад +1

      Just meant that grrm edits his storylines into oblivion, hence probably never releasing winds of winter.

    • @Dasusify
      @Dasusify 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@VaultLore No yeah that's my bad, I just didn't understand. The late hour of my comment and my personal herbology lessons probably affected that a bit.
      My apologies.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  5 месяцев назад +1

      All good, it was a poorly written sentence haha I just had GoT on my mind

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  5 месяцев назад +2

      Haha personal herbology lessons, just saw that

    • @Dasusify
      @Dasusify 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore I'm a *very* keen student.

  • @Case2_0
    @Case2_0 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think I remember the “dark times” Rowling was referring to when thinking about killing off Ron was when her mother passed away.

  • @ernslvr
    @ernslvr 8 месяцев назад +1

    great video lil bro

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      Don’t call me little bro

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      But thanks for watching 😂

    • @ernslvr
      @ernslvr 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore 😂😂😂

  • @mattwhelan13
    @mattwhelan13 5 месяцев назад +1

    there is a sibling relationship introduced in the later books that mirros Lily and Petunia, Regulus and Sirius. Sirius is abnormal in his family much like Lily but in Lily's case her parents seem to fully support her whereas Sirius has a very negative relationship with not only his brother but also his parents. We find out that Regulus made an incredible sacrifice to stop Voldemort just like Lily while Sirius and Petunia are cut off from the magial world. I could watch a full video on this honestly

  • @mek2023
    @mek2023 9 месяцев назад +8

    I have only seen the movies. This makes me want to read the books.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +1

      Do it!

    • @richotim
      @richotim 7 месяцев назад +1

      You should’ve done that a few years back.

    • @thefish3103
      @thefish3103 6 месяцев назад +1

      Did you do it?

  • @adorhym12
    @adorhym12 7 месяцев назад +1

    There was a vampire storyline as Rowling was going to have a teacher that was a vampire, plus in the books in Honeydukes found lollipops she thought were blood pops not that it was specified, but scrapped the idea because of Snape and Lupin.

    • @adorhym12
      @adorhym12 7 месяцев назад

      I meant Hermione found the pops.

  • @alexsantiago3181
    @alexsantiago3181 7 месяцев назад +2

    So many interesting concepts. I always liked the idea of one of the main trio dying but I didn't know anything about these dropped plots so I never knew JK really wanted to kill Ron. I always loved the idea of Harry Potter, Hogwarts and Magic in general, but was not so interested in the movies. I only read Prisoner of Azkaban but now I really want to read the rest.

  • @deannavolling7370
    @deannavolling7370 9 месяцев назад +2

    I always believed that Dumbledore couldn’t see under the cloak, he could just see the traces of magic around it to know that it was there. From there he just assumes it’s Harry because it’s Harry’s cloak. Dumbledore said that all magic leaves traces, even if the are difficult to detect and I think the cloak’s traces must be very difficult but Dumbledore knows what to look for for given that he studied the cloak and had it in his possession for 10 years. As for why Moody can SEE Harry under the cloak…idfk

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      lol ~~~magic~~~

    • @vz1270
      @vz1270 8 месяцев назад

      Moody's fake eye was enchanted... thats why...

  • @ryanwelton7020
    @ryanwelton7020 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s been awhile since I read the books, but I could have sworn that the kids actually speculated that Snape might be a vampire. Which is where I think the rumor came from. The way the kids discuss him when they first meet him. I could definitely be wrong though. Lol

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад +2

      You’re not far off. I think one of the characters makes a comment that their next DatDA professors is going to be a vampire. It’s not about snape, even though he does teach that class later on!

  • @mytake2688
    @mytake2688 6 месяцев назад +1

    22:13 why is young Sheldon there?

  • @scottr2314
    @scottr2314 9 месяцев назад +1

    What spell does Dumbledore use to see Harry while he is wearing the invisibility cloak?

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +1

      A nonverbal casting of Homenum Revelio according to JKR.

  • @LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud
    @LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud 9 месяцев назад +6

    I’m glad that Harry and hermoine didn’t hook up. It’s such a cliche trope when the main characters are opposite sexes. They always make then the love interest in the story. I’m happy and it was smart to deviate from such a worn out arch.

  • @Marvel-HP-DC
    @Marvel-HP-DC День назад

    That Dumbledore is the only one who can sees through Harry’s cloak without any magical gadget shows simply how powerful he really was. I think that isn’t a plot hole.

  • @XeiDaMoKaFE
    @XeiDaMoKaFE 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think you would make nice videos about Harry Potter methods of rationality

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      Can you elaborate? What is that?

    • @XeiDaMoKaFE
      @XeiDaMoKaFE 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@VaultLore there's this one Harry Potter iceberg that includes a fanfiction that tries to explain the wizarding world with the scientific method , I didn't finish it but liked the concept , since it's so big and there not really any video discussing it in depth , I just thought you would have the profile to be the one to do it

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting, maybe!

    • @janicewinsor4793
      @janicewinsor4793 6 месяцев назад

      I would like to know more about that too

  • @EkkoTheGekko
    @EkkoTheGekko 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nearly headless Nick only refers to his beheading once. After Ron said something kinda insulting, he answers „You‘ve got the tackt of a blunt axe“. But I would have also skipped the song. It just doesn’t fit into a book for me..

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +1

      Haha yeah idk my eyes just kind of glaze over when I get to those parts. Maybe that’s a me problem.

    • @EkkoTheGekko
      @EkkoTheGekko 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLoreNo problem, dude! It wasn't really relevant to your point, it's just a funfact.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah that’s a good one!

  • @KalkuehlUncut
    @KalkuehlUncut 2 месяца назад +1

    I am glad vampires werent such a big thing in HP. She could have even left them out completely. For me, vampires always imply the existence of the christian religion which opens too many questions that wont be answered.

  • @darkgeekproductions4401
    @darkgeekproductions4401 6 месяцев назад +1

    You could have Dumbledore come back from a created horcrux and have him under the control of a new enemy and bring back the OG kids to work with their kids in the new series to defeat the new evil and free Dumbledore from the control of said villain as a what if Just throwing that out there :)

    • @Case2_0
      @Case2_0 6 месяцев назад

      Ah yes, just like Evil Nindroid Sensei Wu

  • @christophercortez7191
    @christophercortez7191 7 месяцев назад +2

    Harry said furiously
    Ded

  • @TooRiskyHD
    @TooRiskyHD 6 месяцев назад +1

    Like they said there’s always 2 sides to story
    Not finished the video yet but just want to say thank you for this video

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  6 месяцев назад

      Appreciate you watching!

  • @_Majunior
    @_Majunior 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey, I liked this! Also I skim songs in books too

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад +1

      Haha I just glaze over every time. thanks for watching!

    • @_Majunior
      @_Majunior 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore I'll be watching whatever comes next as well

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      Glad you’re here!

  • @richd6975
    @richd6975 9 месяцев назад +1

    And then Hagrid said...Youre a wizard harry, oh wait. Scratch that

  • @dessertsister313
    @dessertsister313 5 месяцев назад +1

    Anne Rice was big when JK was writing, vampires.

  • @huddyr1112
    @huddyr1112 9 месяцев назад +1

    Im late, sorry just found this channel, inwant to stay live so i will rewatch as soon as you finish to catch the first couple. Btw thank you for this

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @lukestewart5142
    @lukestewart5142 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dude you have to do a iceberg video on gringots

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  8 месяцев назад

      Good call!

    • @lukestewart5142
      @lukestewart5142 8 месяцев назад

      @@VaultLore that would be so interesting

  • @knightgale2120
    @knightgale2120 9 месяцев назад +5

    Honestly the biggest cut plot is Dumbledore is gay, even cut out of the books and only after JK added it in a interview. Apparently she wanted to include it but each time she tried to add it into the story it took up to much space, and if you made it this far you probably knew this is fake.
    Jk just wanted brownie points and just made it up.

  • @quinnzel316
    @quinnzel316 Месяц назад +1

    i definitely dont read songs in books either (unless its the hunger games)

  • @huntercoleherr
    @huntercoleherr 7 месяцев назад +3

    A huge missed opportunity was not including Muggles more in the story. They're literally just background morons the entire series.
    Imagine a redemption arc for Petunia, where she rolls up during the Battle of Hogwarts with a rifle and starts sniping Death Eaters. A bunch of close-minded purebloods wouldn't have known what the fuck was happening.
    Jacob Kowalski was one of the few things Fantastic Beasts did right. Muggles have extremely advanced technology, much of which is superior to magic. Having a few Muggle characters actually impact the story would have been awesome. Sadly, Rowling isn't a skilled enough writer to pull that off.

    • @jugdar13
      @jugdar13 7 месяцев назад

      Petunia had a type of redemption (or sympathy) via a deleted scene

  • @briansxoom126
    @briansxoom126 9 месяцев назад +3

    31:00 I'm fairly sure that JKR is acquainted with genetics, she's in been in the news about her views on it. "did ya know"

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +3

      Hahaha fair point. Acquainted might the right word, knowledge is a different subject.

    • @briansxoom126
      @briansxoom126 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thank goodness for free speech, right?

  • @Friquido
    @Friquido 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ford is not a british car brand

    • @Laoboi2o3
      @Laoboi2o3 7 месяцев назад

      Found
      On
      Road
      Dead

  • @brandonfleischhacker2799
    @brandonfleischhacker2799 7 месяцев назад +1

    Older vampire media dracula, buffy, blade, and underworld

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 2 месяца назад

      Quite a lot of older animes as well like hellsing. Vampires were favourites in media for a long time

  • @Michael_Dominic
    @Michael_Dominic 9 месяцев назад +2

    freally hope this covers the secret holocaust denial she's been tweeting lately :)
    subbed tho :p

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +2

      Haha I didn’t include that but I’ve been seeing it on Twitter. Wild stuff

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for subbing! Welcome!

    • @Michael_Dominic
      @Michael_Dominic 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@VaultLorehappy to be here

  • @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad
    @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad 7 месяцев назад +1

    Spudgeon is the last name of Sid vicious's last girlfriend

  • @Rvbeus
    @Rvbeus 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lucifer Malice Foil. Lucious Malfoy

  • @TanakaMatsumoto
    @TanakaMatsumoto 7 месяцев назад +1

    2:35 J.K Rowling wrote game of thrones? Why would her scrapping of ideas of which if they were scrapped how do you know about them if it was never published? But aside from that what does that have to do with game of thrones?

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      It was a reference to GRRM scrapping and rewriting plot lines

    • @TanakaMatsumoto
      @TanakaMatsumoto 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore You didn't even mention him. I would have believed it was simply a slip of the tongue... but not this attempt at justifying a mistake.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      @@TanakaMatsumoto you honestly think I thought JKR wrote game of thrones…

    • @TanakaMatsumoto
      @TanakaMatsumoto 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@VaultLore I think you meant to say GRRM when you said JKR, only way it makes sense or you meant to say Harry Potter wouldn't get more books instead of game of thrones. I said slip of the tongue, I'm assuming you know the difference between the two.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 месяцев назад

      I meant that grrm does similar things, editing and rewriting plot points, hence winds of winter taking forever

  • @Sammyface017
    @Sammyface017 9 месяцев назад +2

    Really great so far but just as a fyi at 2 mins and 35 seconds idk if it was to be funny or not im autistic so sorry if i missed a joke but you said games of thrones book and not harry potter book just want to let you know.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  9 месяцев назад

      Just making a joke that George rr Martin edits his books so much that we’ll never see the next one! Thanks for watching the vid!

  • @eliasthienpont6330
    @eliasthienpont6330 6 месяцев назад +1

    🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 THE LION WAS HERE 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 No. 842

  • @xamzax
    @xamzax 14 дней назад +1

    so snape is not a "revamped" vampire 😀

  • @Foster_The_Wild
    @Foster_The_Wild 7 месяцев назад +1

    JKs mum died while writing it. Dementors are depression