Patek Philippe v.s. F.P. Journe: Annual Calendar Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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Watch this head to head comparison of this white gold Patek Philippe Tiffany & Co. Annual Calendar and this platinum F.P. Journe Octa Calendrier by WatchBox's Tim Mosso.
Video and content by Tim Mosso and Pheline Jerome.
The journe is to me just all around a better and more beautiful watch
'Patek gives you more precious metal', that's if you don't count the movement :P
crunchylatte so true 👍👍👍 journe still better pick to me here !
I like F.P .Journe . thanks for comparison .
I think Journe is more interesting, Design is more appealing.
Thanks for letting us know what your pick would be! Journe definitely has a very unique and beautiful design. - WatchBox Team
@@the1916company Thanks. Can you give comments on the Elegante collections for male and female. I am tempting to buy Journe or the Aquanuant in rose gold or steel travel time. Your opinion. Thanks
The Patek looks so generic while the Journe is out there and more rare.
Love these comparisons Tim. Please keep it up.
I have been lucky enough to have owned both examples, I prefer the FPJ as it is way more interesting and exclusive. I have found Patek to be boring and over-rated. Everybody thinks they want a Patek, but most [ IMO ] don't, once they have owned one....
The FPJ is so much more aesthetically pleasing, it's just that it looks too much like a regulateur.
It has a better theatrical arraignment plus a movement that follows the looks. Mr. Journe is a big fan of astrolabes and he has quite a collection which is greatly reflected in his work. I own both watches but my Calanderier is with a rose gold while my Patek 5146 is with an Ivory dial.
F.P. Journe - hands down.
I love this patek, someday soon ..
Great review Tim. Cool seeing these beauties side by side.
FPJ for aesthetics and exclusivity reasons, but for reliability would have to go for the PP. I way prefer the dial on FPJ. Both amazing though, thanks for sharing Tim!
As I mentioned above, I own both and in accuracy the Journe is more accurate and easier to set. Both rotating on a B&Z time machine and the 5146 needs adjustment every 10 days with an average loss of 2-3 minutes while the Journe once every moth of 1-2 minutes. NOTE: Both have been services last year 2015.
Honestly to me, Patek design just doesn't excite me. Lange and FPJ are waaay more interesting.
FPJ wins hands down!
FP Journe > Patek
To each their own, thanks for your feedback!
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f.p is hotter. patek is over hyped.
Patek cannot compare to Journe. The former is high horology the Journe is. Super High Horology. It’s just a more beautiful and original piece with a better movement... in my opinion
New to watches. Always have known of certain watch brands since i was a little boy. Rolex, patek, Cartier. Today is the day i learned about f.p. This is the 5th or 6th film ive watched in the last half hr. And i just want to learn more. What a cool company. Ive never wanted a watch ill never be able to afford so badly.
Welcome to an amazing hobby! Check out both of the WatchBox channels to learn lots more about Journe (and maybe some other brands that are more affordable for you 😉)
Check out Vacheron Constantin (one of the big 4) BlancPain, Parmigiani Fleurier, Jaeger Le Coultre, Breguet, IWC, A Lange & Sohne. Also Grand Seiko, Credor (under Grand Seiko) and Phillipe Dufour for total artistry in a watch
Tim you are a brilliant and gifted gentleman ... You are also a straight up gangster at Horological knowledge and your vast vocabulary and pronunciation is indeed impressive to say the least. As for Patek or F.P.J. ??? I choose ... 😊😉👍
When was the 5146G ever made in 37mm? Or did the video reviewer misspeak / confuse it with the 5036?
The 5146G in the video sure looks like 39mm... just appears much smaller than the FPJ because of the stepped bezel.
Thanks
I own the 5146j and it's 39mm.
Rosegold movement vs Rhodium Coated brass? No comparison
Zane Carmichael does patek use Rhodium Coated brass?
FPJ for me. (if I could afford one).
Abhishek Srivastava they’re crazy expensive! They start at 20K but you can’t get that one except on the grey market at 30. The rest are in the range of 50-75 and beyond. Who needs a car!
do more comparing please
It’s a win win. Both are beautiful in their own way. Tiffany stamp is special. But FPJ is still more rare.
The FPJ is a piece of art, the likes of which will no longer be produced once the watch maker himself is no longer living. The Patek is arguably the pinnacle of the holy trinity of high horology. The Patek is aspirational, but the FPJ is is infinitely more artistic and rare.
The Patek at least tells you what time it is. Th Journe relegates that to a tiny inset taking up a quarter of the dial.
i love the FPJ dial ，it looks great！
If I had money I would get both
Both wonderful. Also showing my birthday. Better buy them.
journe offers more precious metal .. movement is 18k..!!
A challenge to put these two in the same video, as Journe walks to a very different drummer and the Patek brand seeks more to refine the standard. This comparison feels a bit tilted towards the Patek, which is my bias with these two as well.
yzy. my pick 5146 because its my dream watch, just please without crappy tifany
No wrist shot...
Tim which one would you prefer?
Journe for me.
Great video
I don't know is it that hard to offer a skeletonised winding rotor to see the movement properly, especially at this price range? Half of the movement is obstructed at all times and what is the point having exhibition casebacks anyway. Just my thoughts
How is PP giving you more precious metal if FPJ is the one that has the precious metal movement? FPJ for me - all-around more interesting watch. Buckle can be swapped out I am sure.
Journe definitely
Wouldnt wear them, these are too exceptional timepieces. I prefer the more classic layout (hands, caseback) on the Patek.
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WatchBox Studios VC 82172 small seconds and just in my dreams Patek 1463 with Breguet numerals (or modern but still unaffordable iteration 5170)
F.P. Journe is the one to own.
Very well done review sir. Super informative and facts based I loved it !!
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You should always mention the PRICE COMPARISON when comparing the watches .. NOT doing this is not fair & balanced ..
Would be happy with either one
Fpj
The journe is at a different level....both are incredible but your comparing a true piece of art against a signed print.....
drooling for the journe
Again: The Patek has a diameter of 39mm!!!
FP Journe any day over Patek
Nothing wrong with that!
Thanks for sharing your preference!
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I think Patek has more beautiful case and dial
off the top of my head I can name more than 10 watch makers with the same dial arrangement and looks as 5146 not to mention Patek themselves who have made this arrangement on more than 10 models.
nice
Comparing the Patek 5396 Annual Calendar to the FPJ would have been better as they are closer in size and price. I own both, but have the simple calendar FPJ Octa Reserve de Marche (40mm) in platinum. The Journe is certainly more exclusive and interesting, even without the complication level of your example, and more fun in an "Eraserhead" (David Lynch) sort of way. The Patek has the moon phase and the classic feel only a Patek really offers. A tough choice indeed, I was looking to flip my Patek for the FPJ in this video but it's about a $10K upgrade in price on the preowned market. It should never be said that the 40mm Journe watches do not hold their value, as this case in point demonstrates ☝🏻️
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This certainly hasn't aged well. The Brass FP journe can now buy this Patek 4x over!
Both are beautiful, but the Patek is best bang for buck here IMHO...
I agree, but if resale is not an issue I would buy the Journe.
What the video failed to mention is that The F.P. Journe is no longer in production and it is more BANG on the the dollar today, yesterday, and tomorrow.
FP leaves the Patek behind!
Would never buy the patek even if I was .a millionaire 500 times over.... The journe just isn't right to me. I think it's the way the small seconds bites into that allready small awkward time dial. As far as the movement, case and finishing go ... no contest it goes to the FP...even the engraving on the back bezel is magnificent
Thanks KingMinosxxvi! What are your favorite brands/watches?
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price vs price?
FP Journe and it’s not even close.
I'm into Casios DW5600Es ..... Sorry .
Fp journe is better for my collection.
Truly a stunning time Peace.
I think I just wet myself.
Time is a dead god Thoth 🌷🌑👍 rest in the good news 💐 Okay bye
Prefer the Journe in every way but the 'Invenit et Fecit' ruins it for me.
FPJourne !!!!!!!!!!💙💙💙💙💙💙
I'll take the loser😎
Fuck FPJ wins in every aspect
If it weren't for the FP Journe's hands that remind me of a duck's bill, it would be the ultimate watch, at least for me.
PP is at the top of the Holy Trinity.
FPJ is not even there, it is true that they are very pretty.
Of course FP Journe! Patek is so boring.