I think a part of it is because when they plan to do a world tour (it is supposed to be after the HIP era), the COVID-19 outbreak. And the CEO once said in the mamamoo documentary that they were supposed to perform at Coachella but were cancelled due to the pandemic. And at the same time, the company started to shift their focus on their newly debuted boy group, and try to minimize mamamoo's impact in order to convince Investors that the company will be fine even without mamamoo (because their 7 years contract will end soon) thus, they started to neglect mamamoo and intentionally didn't inform the member that they were getting deals and being invited for interview, etc.
@@Aria-nu6ko I think Mamamoo should buy over the name and ownership of their songs and leave, unless RBW buck up. Hwasa and Wheein have had enough of the shenanigans of RBW. I got a feeling next will Moonbyul.
@@santoshsharma483 I truly hope so, because moonbyul and solar didn't aware that their contract were longer than hwasa, that's why both of them still in rbw until 2024 meanwhile Hwasa's contract already ended. How petty of rbw, even industry insiders called them out when rbw stocks hit rock bottom and said that mamamoo should save the company in a news article headline, and the funniest thing is, it happened after rbw declared that they'll be fine even without mamamoo's contribution, lol. Sorry for my rant here, I'm just so fed up by rbw with the constant mismanagement of both mamamoo and moomoos.
paint me orchestral version got to be one or the most insane piece in the entire mamamoo discography. The arrangement and everything in it just hits you right in every spot.
Absolutely agree with you a thousand percent!!! The orchestral music keeps getting faster & louder during Moonbyul rap is everything I never knew I want and I'm thankful they did that version infact the songs(remixed & re-recorded version) in the album (I Say Mamamoo: The Best) are just what every and each MooMoo need in our life. It's a thank you album for us MooMoos...
Something rarely mentioned is You're the Best was also their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th 6th, 7th, and 8th wins. If that seems unusual YES it is, especially for the first time a group is winning. They won 24-ish more music shows with their 4 Seasons songs and were the first idols to go into the audience visiting Moomoos or eat ramyeon during the live performance after winning. They went from the extended 4 Seasons success straight into winning Queendom then releasing Hip right after. 2019 was peak Mamamoo. They had already planned taking turns doing solo projects while other members rested for 2020 which worked out when Covid came. Some of their most iconic solos (Hwasa's Maria, Moonbyul's Eclipse, Solar's Spit It Out) and Solar's first solo win came during that stretch. Mamamoo isn't underrated but Yes I Am definitely is. Got lost in all the other massive successes at the time. Some idols will support causes, but usually only after corporate boards do the math on how that will appeal to their target audience, generate free publicity, and issue strict limits on how far that support can go (so being seen supporting a cause stays profitable without generating backlash that ends up losing profits). The business part of the music business is usually in charge of everything else. 😒
Wait wait wait. You're the Best took home 8 music show wins?! That's wild! 2018-2020 seems like some amazing years for them, I wonder if it would've continued through covid, but if they were planning rest anyway then they lucked out! Yeah I hate being cynical, but part of me is always thinking how much of this is corporate optics?
I think they are underrated because I looked at their ranking. Shocked to see many less talented groups ahead of them. How? Some are very poor vocally.
@@SylverReacts Actually, they had planned international promotions that got canceled cause of covid. They were also invited to coachella 2020. And since mamamoo’s bread and butter has always been live vocals and stage presence, covid really took a toll on them. Even though they figured it out eventually, it makes me wonder where they would be now if covid didn’t halt their momentum (since 2019 was the peak of their career). Either way, they’ve got one thing that a lot of groups want, and that is longevity. I mean, a successful international tour 9 years in? Even if they’re not number one, I’m sure their career(group/solo) will be a very long one.
@@SylverReacts Blackpink shouting "We are the revolution!!" is 100% a mandate passed down from the YG boardroom to simulate authenticity for their "badass" branding. I don't view it as cynicism as much as using our Odd Eye to see the truth of what is being presented to us.
@@dolphinstvjcr If you're talking about the brand ranking charts that's all about how much money the group/member's names can make, nothing about the quality of art they produce. I would need a long think if a group I liked was near the top of that not in a promotional period.
That cigarette scene in hwasa's "maria" is actually referencing an italian movie, 'malena', that hwasa resonates with. There are a lot of references to that movie in that mv
it's incredibly important to mamamoo as a group or as soloists to gender (or not gender) their songs about romantic experiences the way they do. every member, no matter her aesthetic, has thanked moomoos for taking them exactly as they are. they tell us everything we need to know. they are our safe space and we are their's.
JYP had a show called Party People. He's a big fan, as you may know from his viral collab with Mamamoo at the 2019 MAMA award show. MMM killed it on Party People and it's well worth watching. When you said the stage production has gone up that was a clip of the opening song from the 2019 4 Seasons F/W concerts, Paint Me. That's the rearranged concert version of Paint Me with a new rap verse by Moonbyul and is aka the orchestral version. Paint Me is the theme song of the 4 Season 4 Color series and is one of MMM's vocal masterpieces. Mamamoo often does rearrangements or remixes of their hits for their concerts, award show appearances and other special events and many of them were featured on the 2 cd career retrospective album I Say Mamamoo: The Best (2021). ISMTB includes new recordings of 21 of their hits and favorite b-sides plus 2 new songs. Mamamoo wasn't at the tv show to support Hwasa for Twit - they were all there because the full group was simultaneously promoting Gogobebe. Their celebration of Hwasa's first win and the encore stage where they piled on Hwasa and did the song with her is adorable and heartwarming. Solar's solo career is deceptive because officially she was the last member to make her solo debut with Spit It Out in 2020 but she was the first member to release solo songs with MVs with her Solar Gamsung (emotion or sensitivity) series of covers from 2015-18 culminating in being the first member to release a solo album (also called Solar Gamsung) and hold solo concerts in 2018. Spit It Out was the first original song she promoted so in kpop's way of thinking it marked her solo debut.
@@SylverReacts I'd been listening to kpop for 4 years and thought I knew all the quirks of the lingo and oddball rules of the game but when Spit It Out came out as Solar' solo debut it threw me for a loop. I couldn't understand how someone could record and perform as a soloist for 5 years without being considered to have made her solo debut. Btw, I forgot to mention that feminism is indeed a dirty word to many people in S Korea. Since I'm old it reminds me of the US back in the 60's & 70's only worse because S Korean feminists are more isolated. Back then women's liberation was part of a rising tide of social movements that forced everyone except the most dim-witted to examine the world and themselves in new ways (or at least ways we weren't taught in school). When I encountered kpop girl group videos I was a bit shocked. My first thought was that Korea had a serious Lolita problem and I still think so. The kpop beauty standard is basically Lolita - a nubile adolescent with an anorexically slim girly body and only a hint of womanly curves. In a country where that image of women is considered ideal and aegyo is encouraged is feminism is extremely threatening, esp to men of course. A few years ago Red Velvet's leader Irene triggered a wide scale male butt fuse blowout when she mentioned that she read a notoriously "feminist" novel. I heard guys were burning RV merch in protest. How weak is that? Back in the day we burned more important symbols like bras and draft cards. :)
Gamsung isn't recognised as her solo debut becuz 1) it's a long term project which hasn't ended, solar has said she's going to continue it coming years 2) All the songs she sang are her renditions of already sung songs which means they are covers. So ofc SIO is officially her debut song. You can't count "Hello" as well since it's a part of ot4 album.
@@jyotitewari739 Yeah, I get that. Silly me used the English definition of debut rather than the kpop definition back then. Twisting the original meaning of English words like debut, comeback and title track is a kpop specialty.
@@kudgeond755 I don’t think of it as “twisting” and I don’t think it makes sense to consider words to always have an original meaning. The meanings of many words have changed constantly throughout history, and will always change in response to new contexts. K-pop has produced a rich range of new concepts, into which existing English words have quite naturally (and wonderfully, if you ask me) migrated. That is the joy of language. I love how a K-pop album will have one title track, and many B-sides, and sometimes one of the B-sides will have the same title as the album but not be the title track. Whereas back in the old days a vinyl single would have one A-side, labelled with the letter A, and one B-side, labelled with the letter B. But wait! Two songs, yet it was called a “single”? Surely that would also be “twisting” of language? Except we don’t notice it any more because we are used to it. I prefer the point of view that this is the marvellous nature of living languages. Each new usage is a precious gift.
That's the reason why Mamamoo have all my respects succeeding in an industry where the norms ans standards are literally really strict and the pressure is abusive by putting their own style and embracing their own true selves and personnalities is really challenging🤩🤩🤩🤩and Mamamoo really have the thing that most of the 3rd and 4th gen kpop groups have not it's a thing that I can't really explain but it's something that I found with the 2nd gen kpop groups the Golden generation like 2NE1 Bigbang Sistar 2PM Shinee GirlsGeneration and others
I think their genuine friendship really helped them withstand the storms of doubt and haters to become the best group I've seen. Really happy to have found them.
I loved them since Queendom and still loving them up to this point. I have to listen at least one of their songs before going to work and when I take my rest I will always gladly watch a reaction videos about them. I will always be a moomoo ❤️ hoping that you will react more of their videos, will gladly watch it over and over again.
@@SylverReacts it's really nice to see others reacting to Mamamoo so thank you for that, and one thing I will mention is that you have just scratched the surface, I only heard of mamamoo during Hip era so I am still learning more about them.
The difference for me is that I like looking at K-pop MV's but I listen to very few K-pop groups, on a regular basis, it's mainly Mamamoo and their solo stuff along with other RBW groups on repeat.
They would be so loved if they only got some of the opportunities other groups get attentding US shows, or touring. That would give them more space out of anti feminism and critical SK to build further. But Corona killed their peak kinda and after the company didn't really pick up again and focused on their other groups.
Great video and updated. I saw a photo of solar from the Save me MV, which is a mamamoo+ song released only a couple months ago, as well as a clip of paint me live from the hwasa show last year. To add to their beginnings, they lived in a small room, roach infested and etc during their training because of the lack of money and they nearly disbanded until um oh ah yeh. They do in fact write some of their own music, moonbyul is the most credited female artist in south korea and today there is nothing from mamamoo that doesnt have at least one of them having control over the song, MVs, concepts and the rest of what goes into production and promotion.
One of the point I like the most about mamamoo is they are taking responsibilities. Kpop almost always make Idols the victim. 1) “Oh that’s outfit is bad” => that’s the stylist fault, the idols can’t choose their outfits, poor ABC. 2) “The lyrics is dumb and meaning less/ inappropriate” => That’s the company/writer fault, why company give them such bad songs, poor ABC 3) “That ABC is bad at singing/dancing” => the company didn’t train them enough. Poor ABC The idols are almost always the victim and the companies are always the villains. Those some aspect might be true but I think it is pathetic that you can’t have power over your own body, your own opinion and your own art works. How can you be the inspiration when everything you put out is controlled by someone else? I love that Mamamoo take the criticism as well as the responsibility in their own hand. They said “Yes I did that. That was my idea/decision. Please don’t blame other people.”
True mamamoo are the only ones who will say that, and I love them for that because it shows that they are invested in their own music. And I know that other groups might pitch ideas and are probably just ignored by their company
You should put Mamamoo with JYP at JYP Party People on the list (Becareful to include Solar’s performance of Sexy back in that show as well. I think since that song is 18+ it got seperates into a different video). That performance of them are so so good and it’s one of the rare footage you can get nowaday where male and female idols interact openly and get high on the music, partying together.
Really excited for your mamamoo journey I have so many great live requests but I don't want to overwhelm you haha - but I have seen you react to full Weekly Idol episodes. Mamamoo have quite a few but my favourite is their 2016 Weekly Idol Episode during You're the Best era. Excited to see you check out more stuff!
Thank you! Feel free to pop them over in the discord if you’d like, I have a channel for just that purpose! I browse through it before making the schedule for the week and any live suggestions for album reactions that I do! Also I love Weekly Idol! I’m excited to get to Mamamoo’s after we finish Dreamcatcher’s appearances! 🥰
They may be underrated in some other countries. But Their fans sell out appearances. They take over entire theaters with their fans alone. Trust me, they are HUGE!! And they are AWESOME!!!They have amassed more incredible stage performances then anyone else.
Yeah I think a better title would be "Why you should be a Moomoo" but someone else in the comments mentioned that the creator may have done it as a way to get people to watch and then put this awesome video essay out under it.
Imo, maybe it's underrated comparing their talents to their popularity. For me. i prefer best vocal quality than average vocal with massive choreography. But yeah everyone had different taste of music. And it's okay.
12:58 correction. More and more ESTABLISHED idols are making a stance on certain things because they have already placed a name for themselves in the industry and a dedicated fanbase. Thus, hate that they get can be easily deflected. But, Gen 4 and Gen 5 idols that are topping the charts right now wouldn't dare to speak about their stances on social movements. They might hit hints about it, but never explicitly support it.
Not really. Bigbang during their rookie days called out against politicians and unfair practices, bts during rookie day called out on bullying and a lot of youth factors Mamamoo risked themselves supported RAINBOW ppl and performed at LGBTQ in 2016 ( a time when it was heavily denounced) and their fandom was first to make a place for the community. This ALL was done during rookie period. I would say to satisfy and "fear" of smallest discontent in fandoms of 4th n 5th gen and their entitlement over their idols is what causing companies not allowing them to speak.
@jyotitewari739 That's different, though. I never said there weren't any rookies in the past that publicly voiced out their political stances. The key word here is he said MORE AND MORE, which would mean that this practice is increasing or starting to be the majority, which isn't the case at all. How maany groups are getting debuted by the year? At a minimum around 10 groups? And how many of those groups are upfrint with supporting marginalized and/or publicizing their political viewpoints? Estimately around 5%. The "more and more" groups that are voicing out their stances in socio/politics are well established groups who have served the industry enough times to know their moral stances getting challenged is unlikely to damage the group reputation majorly ESPECIALLY soloists who get to work independently without fearing to attract hate towards their fellow members.
Yeah, this one contains a lot stuff that could be considered spoilers for a reactor. Particularly the solo parts. Personally, I prefer the reactor make their own interpretation of each video. I find frequently that there is something I've missed or different way to think about what I see. When the reactor makes their own assessment.
I don’t mind a little sampling of the songs every now and then because I don’t have a great memory, but if they’re breaking something down I’m more likely to have it stick in my brain. Like for most people I really like what the creator did with it, but as a reactor specifically it is a bit tough!
A group with a video that has 400m views is not underrated. Other idols even recognize them as icons in the industry. They have some of the best vocals in kpop and people know it. Definitely not underrated.
I don’t think the name of the video matches the content that closely, it’s more a video about the group, their social causes that they champion and information on why someone should be a fan. I think “Why you should become a MooMoo” would have been a better title, but I still liked the content! 😁🤘
That's an interesting idea as a creator... I think if it were me (no shade to naoshioke who did an amazing job) I would probably throw that thesis statement in the first 2 min or so to alleviate a lot of the conversation we're having right now, but it also probably generated a lot of buzz for the video *shrugs* either way I enjoyed it!
True, Mamamoo is only underrated compared to BTS and BP and that would make every group underrated. Mamamoo is the most recognized and respected group in all of SK and appears the most on variety shows
Yeah honestly I think the title is a little bit misleading from what the content is, it should probably be “Why you should become a Moomoo” but I like the content of the video so it’s mostly just a nitpick
I just think that a lot of people know about Hip/Hwasa, but never gave the group a chance. I've seen quite a few reactions from people that start their videos with 'I know nothing about this group' or end them with 'Why aren't they more recognized?' (and that's also true for Dreamcatcher, for example) 🤗
@@silentnight4025 I'm pretty sure the title is more like them saying "why mamamoo is better than Twice or Black Pink" without getting any backslash from either communities lmao
it's incredibly important to mamamoo as a group or as soloists to gender (or not gender) their songs about romantic experiences the way they do. every member, no matter her aesthetic, has thanked moomoos for taking them exactly as they are. they tell us everything we need to know. they are our safe space and we are their's.
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I love watching people go through their Mamamoo arc.
I love calling it an arc lmao 🤣
same hahaha
It's like in an Anime. An arc can be seen as like a season of a show, or the main plot point of a set of episodes.@@choncat3545
Brilliant. How they have not achieved global recognition is a total mystery. This group has seriously changed the face of Kpop.
I think that they would really have broad appeal internationally too, it’s kinda criminal that more people haven’t heard of them
@SylverReacts It's because their company did not promote them globally, even if they have so much talent to compete in the western market.
I think a part of it is because when they plan to do a world tour (it is supposed to be after the HIP era), the COVID-19 outbreak. And the CEO once said in the mamamoo documentary that they were supposed to perform at Coachella but were cancelled due to the pandemic. And at the same time, the company started to shift their focus on their newly debuted boy group, and try to minimize mamamoo's impact in order to convince Investors that the company will be fine even without mamamoo (because their 7 years contract will end soon) thus, they started to neglect mamamoo and intentionally didn't inform the member that they were getting deals and being invited for interview, etc.
@@Aria-nu6ko I think Mamamoo should buy over the name and ownership of their songs and leave, unless RBW buck up. Hwasa and Wheein have had enough of the shenanigans of RBW. I got a feeling next will Moonbyul.
@@santoshsharma483 I truly hope so, because moonbyul and solar didn't aware that their contract were longer than hwasa, that's why both of them still in rbw until 2024 meanwhile Hwasa's contract already ended. How petty of rbw, even industry insiders called them out when rbw stocks hit rock bottom and said that mamamoo should save the company in a news article headline, and the funniest thing is, it happened after rbw declared that they'll be fine even without mamamoo's contribution, lol. Sorry for my rant here, I'm just so fed up by rbw with the constant mismanagement of both mamamoo and moomoos.
paint me orchestral version got to be one or the most insane piece in the entire mamamoo discography. The arrangement and everything in it just hits you right in every spot.
I’m so excited to get there! 🥰🤘
Absolutely agree with you a thousand percent!!! The orchestral music keeps getting faster & louder during Moonbyul rap is everything I never knew I want and I'm thankful they did that version infact the songs(remixed & re-recorded version) in the album (I Say Mamamoo: The Best) are just what every and each MooMoo need in our life. It's a thank you album for us MooMoos...
Something rarely mentioned is You're the Best was also their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th 6th, 7th, and 8th wins. If that seems unusual YES it is, especially for the first time a group is winning. They won 24-ish more music shows with their 4 Seasons songs and were the first idols to go into the audience visiting Moomoos or eat ramyeon during the live performance after winning.
They went from the extended 4 Seasons success straight into winning Queendom then releasing Hip right after. 2019 was peak Mamamoo. They had already planned taking turns doing solo projects while other members rested for 2020 which worked out when Covid came. Some of their most iconic solos (Hwasa's Maria, Moonbyul's Eclipse, Solar's Spit It Out) and Solar's first solo win came during that stretch.
Mamamoo isn't underrated but Yes I Am definitely is. Got lost in all the other massive successes at the time.
Some idols will support causes, but usually only after corporate boards do the math on how that will appeal to their target audience, generate free publicity, and issue strict limits on how far that support can go (so being seen supporting a cause stays profitable without generating backlash that ends up losing profits). The business part of the music business is usually in charge of everything else. 😒
Wait wait wait. You're the Best took home 8 music show wins?! That's wild!
2018-2020 seems like some amazing years for them, I wonder if it would've continued through covid, but if they were planning rest anyway then they lucked out!
Yeah I hate being cynical, but part of me is always thinking how much of this is corporate optics?
I think they are underrated because I looked at their ranking. Shocked to see many less talented groups ahead of them. How? Some are very poor vocally.
@@SylverReacts Actually, they had planned international promotions that got canceled cause of covid. They were also invited to coachella 2020. And since mamamoo’s bread and butter has always been live vocals and stage presence, covid really took a toll on them. Even though they figured it out eventually, it makes me wonder where they would be now if covid didn’t halt their momentum (since 2019 was the peak of their career).
Either way, they’ve got one thing that a lot of groups want, and that is longevity. I mean, a successful international tour 9 years in? Even if they’re not number one, I’m sure their career(group/solo) will be a very long one.
@@SylverReacts Blackpink shouting "We are the revolution!!" is 100% a mandate passed down from the YG boardroom to simulate authenticity for their "badass" branding. I don't view it as cynicism as much as using our Odd Eye to see the truth of what is being presented to us.
@@dolphinstvjcr If you're talking about the brand ranking charts that's all about how much money the group/member's names can make, nothing about the quality of art they produce. I would need a long think if a group I liked was near the top of that not in a promotional period.
That cigarette scene in hwasa's "maria" is actually referencing an italian movie, 'malena', that hwasa resonates with. There are a lot of references to that movie in that mv
Oh that’s really cool!
it's incredibly important to mamamoo as a group or as soloists to gender (or not gender) their songs about romantic experiences the way they do. every member, no matter her aesthetic, has thanked moomoos for taking them exactly as they are. they tell us everything we need to know. they are our safe space and we are their's.
JYP had a show called Party People. He's a big fan, as you may know from his viral collab with Mamamoo at the 2019 MAMA award show. MMM killed it on Party People and it's well worth watching.
When you said the stage production has gone up that was a clip of the opening song from the 2019 4 Seasons F/W concerts, Paint Me. That's the rearranged concert version of Paint Me with a new rap verse by Moonbyul and is aka the orchestral version. Paint Me is the theme song of the 4 Season 4 Color series and is one of MMM's vocal masterpieces. Mamamoo often does rearrangements or remixes of their hits for their concerts, award show appearances and other special events and many of them were featured on the 2 cd career retrospective album I Say Mamamoo: The Best (2021). ISMTB includes new recordings of 21 of their hits and favorite b-sides plus 2 new songs.
Mamamoo wasn't at the tv show to support Hwasa for Twit - they were all there because the full group was simultaneously promoting Gogobebe. Their celebration of Hwasa's first win and the encore stage where they piled on Hwasa and did the song with her is adorable and heartwarming.
Solar's solo career is deceptive because officially she was the last member to make her solo debut with Spit It Out in 2020 but she was the first member to release solo songs with MVs with her Solar Gamsung (emotion or sensitivity) series of covers from 2015-18 culminating in being the first member to release a solo album (also called Solar Gamsung) and hold solo concerts in 2018. Spit It Out was the first original song she promoted so in kpop's way of thinking it marked her solo debut.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing all of this great info 😊
@@SylverReacts I'd been listening to kpop for 4 years and thought I knew all the quirks of the lingo and oddball rules of the game but when Spit It Out came out as Solar' solo debut it threw me for a loop. I couldn't understand how someone could record and perform as a soloist for 5 years without being considered to have made her solo debut.
Btw, I forgot to mention that feminism is indeed a dirty word to many people in S Korea. Since I'm old it reminds me of the US back in the 60's & 70's only worse because S Korean feminists are more isolated. Back then women's liberation was part of a rising tide of social movements that forced everyone except the most dim-witted to examine the world and themselves in new ways (or at least ways we weren't taught in school).
When I encountered kpop girl group videos I was a bit shocked. My first thought was that Korea had a serious Lolita problem and I still think so. The kpop beauty standard is basically Lolita - a nubile adolescent with an anorexically slim girly body and only a hint of womanly curves. In a country where that image of women is considered ideal and aegyo is encouraged is feminism is extremely threatening, esp to men of course. A few years ago Red Velvet's leader Irene triggered a wide scale male butt fuse blowout when she mentioned that she read a notoriously "feminist" novel. I heard guys were burning RV merch in protest. How weak is that? Back in the day we burned more important symbols like bras and draft cards. :)
Gamsung isn't recognised as her solo debut becuz
1) it's a long term project which hasn't ended, solar has said she's going to continue it coming years
2) All the songs she sang are her renditions of already sung songs which means they are covers.
So ofc SIO is officially her debut song. You can't count "Hello" as well since it's a part of ot4 album.
@@jyotitewari739 Yeah, I get that. Silly me used the English definition of debut rather than the kpop definition back then. Twisting the original meaning of English words like debut, comeback and title track is a kpop specialty.
@@kudgeond755 I don’t think of it as “twisting” and I don’t think it makes sense to consider words to always have an original meaning. The meanings of many words have changed constantly throughout history, and will always change in response to new contexts. K-pop has produced a rich range of new concepts, into which existing English words have quite naturally (and wonderfully, if you ask me) migrated. That is the joy of language. I love how a K-pop album will have one title track, and many B-sides, and sometimes one of the B-sides will have the same title as the album but not be the title track. Whereas back in the old days a vinyl single would have one A-side, labelled with the letter A, and one B-side, labelled with the letter B. But wait! Two songs, yet it was called a “single”? Surely that would also be “twisting” of language? Except we don’t notice it any more because we are used to it. I prefer the point of view that this is the marvellous nature of living languages. Each new usage is a precious gift.
That's the reason why Mamamoo have all my respects succeeding in an industry where the norms ans standards are literally really strict and the pressure is abusive by putting their own style and embracing their own true selves and personnalities is really challenging🤩🤩🤩🤩and Mamamoo really have the thing that most of the 3rd and 4th gen kpop groups have not it's a thing that I can't really explain but it's something that I found with the 2nd gen kpop groups the Golden generation like 2NE1 Bigbang Sistar 2PM Shinee GirlsGeneration and others
Yeah I really resonate with their attitude towards their music and the industry 😊🤘
I think their genuine friendship really helped them withstand the storms of doubt and haters to become the best group I've seen. Really happy to have found them.
@@dolphinstvjcr their friendship is something that most of us would wish we had, but really they are pillars for one another when things are down.
thanks for reacting to this video. it was really well made, and i appreciate your mamamooo reactions
Thank you for joining me 😁 it really means a lot ❤️🤘
They got less promotion than other famous groups. They survived so hard to get their Fame. The literally work hard for their success.
They are always so incomparable and unique❤
I loved them since Queendom and still loving them up to this point. I have to listen at least one of their songs before going to work and when I take my rest I will always gladly watch a reaction videos about them. I will always be a moomoo ❤️ hoping that you will react more of their videos, will gladly watch it over and over again.
We're doing a HUGE deep dive into all of their music! So you'll see a lot more Mamamoo content from me very soon!
@@SylverReacts would gladly watch it. 🥰
Thanks for exposing us to this awesome group. I just subscribed ❤
Thank you so much 😊 and happy to have you along on this journey to become a Moomoo lol
@@SylverReacts it's really nice to see others reacting to Mamamoo so thank you for that, and one thing I will mention is that you have just scratched the surface, I only heard of mamamoo during Hip era so I am still learning more about them.
The difference for me is that I like looking at K-pop MV's but I listen to very few K-pop groups, on a regular basis, it's mainly Mamamoo and their solo stuff along with other RBW groups on repeat.
And that’s totally ok too! 😊❤️🤘
They would be so loved if they only got some of the opportunities other groups get attentding US shows, or touring. That would give them more space out of anti feminism and critical SK to build further. But Corona killed their peak kinda and after the company didn't really pick up again and focused on their other groups.
Great video and updated. I saw a photo of solar from the Save me MV, which is a mamamoo+ song released only a couple months ago, as well as a clip of paint me live from the hwasa show last year. To add to their beginnings, they lived in a small room, roach infested and etc during their training because of the lack of money and they nearly disbanded until um oh ah yeh. They do in fact write some of their own music, moonbyul is the most credited female artist in south korea and today there is nothing from mamamoo that doesnt have at least one of them having control over the song, MVs, concepts and the rest of what goes into production and promotion.
Thank you! I'm so pumped to get into more of their content including Mamamoo+ and solo songs!
One of the point I like the most about mamamoo is they are taking responsibilities. Kpop almost always make Idols the victim.
1) “Oh that’s outfit is bad” => that’s the stylist fault, the idols can’t choose their outfits, poor ABC.
2) “The lyrics is dumb and meaning less/ inappropriate” => That’s the company/writer fault, why company give them such bad songs, poor ABC
3) “That ABC is bad at singing/dancing” => the company didn’t train them enough. Poor ABC
The idols are almost always the victim and the companies are always the villains. Those some aspect might be true but I think it is pathetic that you can’t have power over your own body, your own opinion and your own art works. How can you be the inspiration when everything you put out is controlled by someone else?
I love that Mamamoo take the criticism as well as the responsibility in their own hand. They said “Yes I did that. That was my idea/decision. Please don’t blame other people.”
True mamamoo are the only ones who will say that, and I love them for that because it shows that they are invested in their own music. And I know that other groups might pitch ideas and are probably just ignored by their company
You should put Mamamoo with JYP at JYP Party People on the list (Becareful to include Solar’s performance of Sexy back in that show as well. I think since that song is 18+ it got seperates into a different video). That performance of them are so so good and it’s one of the rare footage you can get nowaday where male and female idols interact openly and get high on the music, partying together.
Definitely have it on my list!
thank you your first to react to this amazing documentary for mamamoo.
Thanks for joining me 😊
@@SylverReactsYes thank yoz :)
Really excited for your mamamoo journey I have so many great live requests but I don't want to overwhelm you haha - but I have seen you react to full Weekly Idol episodes. Mamamoo have quite a few but my favourite is their 2016 Weekly Idol Episode during You're the Best era. Excited to see you check out more stuff!
Thank you! Feel free to pop them over in the discord if you’d like, I have a channel for just that purpose! I browse through it before making the schedule for the week and any live suggestions for album reactions that I do! Also I love Weekly Idol! I’m excited to get to Mamamoo’s after we finish Dreamcatcher’s appearances! 🥰
They may be underrated in some other countries. But Their fans sell out appearances. They take over entire theaters with their fans alone. Trust me, they are HUGE!! And they are AWESOME!!!They have amassed more incredible stage performances then anyone else.
Yeah I think a better title would be "Why you should be a Moomoo" but someone else in the comments mentioned that the creator may have done it as a way to get people to watch and then put this awesome video essay out under it.
Hi! Love how you're doing a deep dive into Mamamoo's music. Enjoy your journey!
Thank you! And thanks for joining me on it!
I enjoyed watching this with you ❤
Thank you so much 😊 I enjoy having you here 🥰
Actually looking forward on your Mamamoo journey. ❤
Thank you for joining me on this journey! 🥰
Imo, maybe it's underrated comparing their talents to their popularity.
For me. i prefer best vocal quality than average vocal with massive choreography.
But yeah everyone had different taste of music. And it's okay.
Agreed! The world would be a very boring place if we all had the same taste!
that used to JYP "Party people" it was on netflix..may still be there
Ooh I will check that out!
@@SylverReactsIt’s on youtube as well. Please please react to it. I don’t think it’s coppy right since I’ve seen other reactor done it before
12:58 correction. More and more ESTABLISHED idols are making a stance on certain things because they have already placed a name for themselves in the industry and a dedicated fanbase. Thus, hate that they get can be easily deflected. But, Gen 4 and Gen 5 idols that are topping the charts right now wouldn't dare to speak about their stances on social movements. They might hit hints about it, but never explicitly support it.
Not really. Bigbang during their rookie days called out against politicians and unfair practices, bts during rookie day called out on bullying and a lot of youth factors Mamamoo risked themselves supported RAINBOW ppl and performed at LGBTQ in 2016 ( a time when it was heavily denounced) and their fandom was first to make a place for the community. This ALL was done during rookie period.
I would say to satisfy and "fear" of smallest discontent in fandoms of 4th n 5th gen and their entitlement over their idols is what causing companies not allowing them to speak.
@jyotitewari739 That's different, though. I never said there weren't any rookies in the past that publicly voiced out their political stances. The key word here is he said MORE AND MORE, which would mean that this practice is increasing or starting to be the majority, which isn't the case at all. How maany groups are getting debuted by the year? At a minimum around 10 groups? And how many of those groups are upfrint with supporting marginalized and/or publicizing their political viewpoints? Estimately around 5%. The "more and more" groups that are voicing out their stances in socio/politics are well established groups who have served the industry enough times to know their moral stances getting challenged is unlikely to damage the group reputation majorly ESPECIALLY soloists who get to work independently without fearing to attract hate towards their fellow members.
Enjoyed it, I did.😁
Thank you! 😊
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Yeah, this one contains a lot stuff that could be considered spoilers for a reactor. Particularly the solo parts. Personally, I prefer the reactor make their own interpretation of each video. I find frequently that there is something I've missed or different way to think about what I see. When the reactor makes their own assessment.
I don’t mind a little sampling of the songs every now and then because I don’t have a great memory, but if they’re breaking something down I’m more likely to have it stick in my brain. Like for most people I really like what the creator did with it, but as a reactor specifically it is a bit tough!
Yes, Mamamoo is not underrated in some point, it was proved in HIP is their highest peakest success in kpop industry tho
Yeah I think the video is very good, it’s just titled poorly I like the idea of titling it “Why you should be a Moomoo” better
A group with a video that has 400m views is not underrated. Other idols even recognize them as icons in the industry. They have some of the best vocals in kpop and people know it. Definitely not underrated.
I don’t think the name of the video matches the content that closely, it’s more a video about the group, their social causes that they champion and information on why someone should be a fan. I think “Why you should become a MooMoo” would have been a better title, but I still liked the content! 😁🤘
@@SylverReacts yeah that's fair. Totally agree!
I believe the creator commented that they used that title to "grab your attention" and to show opposite true in sarcastic insightful way.
That's an interesting idea as a creator... I think if it were me (no shade to naoshioke who did an amazing job) I would probably throw that thesis statement in the first 2 min or so to alleviate a lot of the conversation we're having right now, but it also probably generated a lot of buzz for the video *shrugs* either way I enjoyed it!
I don't think mamamoo is unterrated
They literally have like 400 million views on HIP song. Dreamcatcher's most viewed song has only 70 million
True, Mamamoo is only underrated compared to BTS and BP and that would make every group underrated. Mamamoo is the most recognized and respected group in all of SK and appears the most on variety shows
Yeah honestly I think the title is a little bit misleading from what the content is, it should probably be “Why you should become a Moomoo” but I like the content of the video so it’s mostly just a nitpick
I just think that a lot of people know about Hip/Hwasa, but never gave the group a chance. I've seen quite a few reactions from people that start their videos with 'I know nothing about this group' or end them with 'Why aren't they more recognized?' (and that's also true for Dreamcatcher, for example) 🤗
@@silentnight4025 I'm pretty sure the title is more like them saying "why mamamoo is better than Twice or Black Pink" without getting any backslash from either communities lmao
it's incredibly important to mamamoo as a group or as soloists to gender (or not gender) their songs about romantic experiences the way they do. every member, no matter her aesthetic, has thanked moomoos for taking them exactly as they are. they tell us everything we need to know. they are our safe space and we are their's.