Build a Quiet Mobile Small Shop Cyclone Dust Collector
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Build a small, quiet, mobile wood shop dust collector that includes a cyclone that can be moved from machine to machine or left in place and connected to piping.
My priorities was to build something that won't need upgrading, will be integral into my current and desired shop, and is quiet. We discuss the difference between "shopvac" style collectors and dust collectors. Reasoning for selection of material, design, cyclone, and dust collector along with a review of the completed collector with different machines.
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Products Used:
Oneida Super Dust Deputy & 17 Gallon Barrel - www.oneida-air....
Rockler DustRight Dust Collector - www.rockler.co...
Rockler Casters
Rockler Dust Right Dust Collector MultiPort Tool Set
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I am 77 years old. I have been into woodworking for many years. I have watched more videos than I can remember. But, let me say this, you and your video opened my eyes. The others have all been amateurs compared to yours. You are just the kind of woodworker that I would want as my next door neighbor. You are a CRAFTSMAN! I would love to be around to just learn from you. Just learning how to plan would be worth a fortune. I will never have the kind of shop that you have but I can still dream. Thanks so much for making this video. I am now subscribed and I will be visiting your website. I can't wait.
I have been wood working for just a few years, in the process of building a small shop. I have watched DOZENS of videos about small shop dust collection. although this video is 5 years old, this is the best explanation of dust collection I have seen. I probably wont build this cabinet, but I really loved how you described the CFM and what is needed. I appreciate all the information.
The 4 inch vs 2 inch finding that you discuss at 39:22 is really important. This video is packed with great information as you talk through your choices and considerations. Thanks for more valuable content, and you deserve some sponsors for your practical, humorous, and straight forward contributions to the RUclips woodworking community - good for you!
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A cone shaped reducer from 4 inches to 2 or 2 1/2 inches works a lot better than the reducer type you are using. Not perfect, but I find its better than th estoppel vac. Could avoid the use of Velcro.
I concur with Dan's statement. I just was gifted a 1.5 hp Jet Dust Collector and when I put the 4 to 2 in adapter I was NOT impressed with the suction I had. Now I need a bigger port or a box under my Router table that can accept the 4" tubing.
Four years late to this video, but super glad I watched it! The ONE takeaway from this is the effort put into 'simple' shop furniture/fixtures, pays off down the road, when tackling other projects. Make mistakes on cheap wood, learn joinery and finishing techniques there.
This is the " BEST " Dust Collection videos !!!! Wow, you hit everything that was important, how and why in one video and built a beautiful solution project all in one great video. Thanks for sharing...
Awesome build! I have a tiny micro shop,16'x10' and have been trying to come up with a design for dust collection and your design fits the bill. You are so far from the other RUclipsrs that are actually are sponsored by companies. Their videos are so full of free merchandise, that they are constantly saying "Thank you to blah blah for sponsoring this video" It's kinda obnoxious, even though they are some of my favorites to watch and have practical build video's. I think it is because we are bombarded by the commercials that are inserted into their videos that hearing another endorsement is just overkill. Thank you for the video.
Your point about using solid wood for shop furniture is spot on. It's a great opportunity to practice and hone your craft. Too many using the excuse that it is just shop furniture and plywood is good enough, I think is a cop-out. Baltic birch wood in many places around the country is just too expensive to use and construction grade plywood often is crappy wood. There are chunks missing a lot of knots, etcetera. And if for whatever reason a client comes to your shop, it's a great opportunity to show off your skill. I had an opportunity to purchase scaffolding boards made out of southern yellow pine that are dead flat and very few knots at an incredibly cheap price, so I stocked up and bought 4 dozen 16'x2" by 12" boards at just $5.00/ board. They just fit into my small one-car garage. I'm upgrading my shop furniture which is construction grade cabinets someone gave me and was good temporary storage until I could buy the type of wood I wanted for my shop.
Good buy
Really like your attitude… you seem to be fun to work with! Thanks for the fresh outlook.
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From somebody who is about to set up dust collection in a small shop - thank you. The information you conveyed is invaluable, and packed into yet another fantastic video. Please keep it up!
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Nice work!
A FYI on dust collection; or more specifically on what makes dust collection efficient:
There are two measurements that are important: CFM and Water Column. CFM is the amount of air moved through the system measured in cubic feet per minute. Water column is the amount of "suction" developed by the system, measured in how high the suction will lift a column of water in a pipe or tube. It is the inverse of pressure, sort of. If you move a LOT of CFM of air at a high water column value, you have a system that really, really sucks. In a good way. A shop vac has a relatively high water column and low CFM, making the suction feel stronger. The dust collection fan has a lot of CFM, but a lower water column, thus making the suction feel lower. Getting the balance of both at the right level will make your dust collection system efficient.
Another excellent video. Aimed right at the largest audience, small shops. With lots of useful info. Thanks
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It may very well be a sponsored video, but it doesn't show in the video. You are very clear in which situation and in which setup this system works perfectly, and in which situation you're better of with a shopvac. I think that's also better for the suppliers. That way, purchaching these products won't lead to a disapointment, which could lead to a negative rating, which in turn could lead to lower sales.
By the way. Love your videos. I learned a lot from them...
We were taught that building 'shop furniture' like it was going into someones home, was "Honing Your Craft".
One of the "Dad-isms" that my Dad regularly preached was "if you learn to cut like you are building a birdhouse, all you will ever build is birdhouses!" (thanks Dad!)
I have to be honest... I purposely try "TRY" and avoid his videos. Otherwise I find myself spending all day, EVERY DAY watching and learning from this guy. It's addicting.
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I remember watching your table in one day, etc., video several times, because I was so impressed with the joinery and the care you took. This project is equally remarkable to me, right down to the grain direction and the width of each level, so the bottom was wider, the middle section was less wide, and the top section was the smallest width. Your hand-tool based joinery seems basic enough for you; however, my building isn’t hand hook based, so these will be much more difficult for me. I agree that shop projects are good builds to practice and learn on.
Thanks for being the fantastic teacher that you are and for sharing this video.
And a big thank you for doing the research and great explanation on the dust collection machines and why you purchased these certain machines. You’ve saved me a lot of time and hassle.
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I love at 12:17 when you said you do it because you want to learn. As a "new" woodworker, I'm always trying new things when I make things for my shop, and a lot of them don't work out as planned, but I do learn what not to do for the next one.
I appreciate this video, not only did you show how and what to make, but also the pitfalls one would encounter and possible fixes, thank you for your time.
Finally a system I can copy into our work shop. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Awesome presentation, I came to watch this for the fourth time. You're an amazing teacher! Keep up the great work!
Just started woodworking and some metal now little over a year ago. Found your channel some months ago. Enjoy and learning so,much, even the Oman enjoys watching your video's.
I have a smaller then small shop area and found your storage and organizing vids great.
I've mostly been enjoying restoring my grandfather's old tools, finding out many are wonderful finds.
Again, thanks for the channel and efforts, also advice!!!! Should have more sponsors, agree with everyone on that.
Sure wish I saw this video way back when, lol. After finally coming across some more definitive reference material...mainly Bill Pentz, I've come to the same conclusion with DC and SV setups.
Great job an your grain orientation, that's some serious high level Kung-Fu!
Nice. I really dig the shop furniture projects. Trying to get my first shop set up and every idea helps.
Get after it.
AWESOME! Very informative, not just about the build but the small port vs large port application of both shop vac and higher CFM 4" dust collectors. Thank you so much for putting this video together.
Thank you... I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. Each machine in my shop has it's own dust collection (a bucket with a household vacuum attached, kinda cyclone clone.) The Sound reduction was deffo a nice touch. Again Thanks for all this info.. Rusty.
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Great set/up and nice build, but I would re-design your hose connections to reduce vacuum pressure losses and also provide ventilation for your air cooled motor so it doesn't overheat!
Probably the best small shop dust collector video on YTU!
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I have a suggestion regarding going from 4 inch to two inch. Instead of putting the adapter right on the 2 inch port, use a few feet of 2 inch hose then the adapter to the 4 inch setup. I think that the problem is turbulence at the 2 inch port. If there are a few feet of two inch hose before the port there will be faster laminar flow and the port will work better. Just an (unproven) idea... give it a try and let me know if it worked!
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What a great video
You lost me with the type of measurements you were using but was truly amazed at the craftsmanship. I wouldn't be surprised at all the sponsors you will pick up.
I cant stop talking to people about this build.
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Hola! 🖐Like I'm sure many others, I have enjoyed your videos and learned from them just never subbed or left a comment. For that I apologize good sir, but I have rectified that as of today. Definitely a subscriber as of today, leaving you this comment to say that I appreciate the EFFORT you put into your content. It is educational and informative. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
I enjoyed your process. Showing your craft not just putting things together. Good narration.
Your a very smart guy and understand the relationship between pressure, size and CFM. That is very rare on RUclips. I can't understand why some buy a monster cyclone and neck it down to 2-4" duct work. They could of done what you did and saved mega bucks.. They even do the opposite , buy a HF DC and then hook it up to long runs of 4" ducts. Then claim it works great, . We know otherwise. Your a role model. I also noted your workmanship. Beautiful. Your a Sam Mallof in the rough. You will do well in life.
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Some very good ideas here, thank you!
Great in depth comparison and built video. I also have individual shop vacs by chop saw, drill press/sander. Currently it makes no sense for me to pipe everything to big cyclone that my table saw uses. Also, it's much cheaper to replace a shopvac then cyclone. I consider wear and tear on the cyclone since I'm a DIYer and it's a lot of quick short cuts so dust collector only runs for few minutes at best. Take care
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Awesome very in-depth analysis of the difference and the need of both set-ups of dust collection systems.
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Exceptional lessons, man. Thank you! I've been in residential construction for years, but new to the shop life. I appreciate you, brother.
Great build! Shop furniture is fun to build. I seriously considered building the same setup and the only reason I chose to build a stationary cyclone was because of space. I had an unused dead corner that works great for the big cyclone and I use my shop vac with cyclone for mobile cleanup.
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Awesome, exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much for the in depth review and the tips regarding construction and uses of the system! Im a one man shop just getting started and this really helped solve my dust collection "issues" ...
Thats some good looking pine. Good idea buying the bigger stuff and cutting out the pith
Thanks for all your research. Saves us all time, so we can get to designing, and building our projects.
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Don’t forget masking tape when glueing miter joints. Open the joint onto the masking tape(upside down on the bench) and when hinged closed, the outside of the joint closes tightly first and the masking tape holds its form very well. Excellent results using simple pine lumber. Looks great!
If your tower were 6-8" higher and you hung your Dust Rite that much higher, you wouldn't have to pinch your flex hose coming out of the box. Tight curves are the enemy, and pinched hoses are tight curves taken to the next level. I have the same basic setup as you (though not as elegant), but with the HF DC upgraded to the larger impeller, along with a larger plastic bin beneath the Super Dust Deputy. Your tower is awesome and an inspiration. Keep up the good work!
High center of gravity could make it tippy when pulling on hose. Goal was to keep cg low.
Truly a soldier's death. Old man Hoover salutes you!
Your building methods are so thoughtful. Using wood on wood to bear the weight instead of just binding everything with fasteners. Totally enjoyed your video and hit the SUBSCRIBE. Looking forward to seeing more.
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About time you got some recognition from the suppliers. Is it a sell-out as some commentators would have it? Of course not. That 45 minute video, shared for free, took you how long to edit? Many hours I suspect. I'm glad that at least two companies have woken up to your worth, may many others follow. Good luck to you.
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Dennis Hughes I agree. I buy from companies that sponsor good You tube video creators. I appreciate the knowledge that they share.
Love it. Your meticulous attention the the finest details inspires me!
Thanks, but don't kid yourself. There are lots of gaps here and I didn't bother sanding or finishing so....
Thanks, good build, great content. You look like Sam Kenison😀
Hey me amico, Even though I think me paisan (Carl Guinesso) deserves a reply to his motor cooling statement, I gotta say I absolutely love it and all the (just for fun & practice) joinery! Allotting time for self gratification is far more enjoyable than time spent keeping a profit margin. Best of all it doesn't go out the door with nothing more than your profit, photograph and memories left behind.
If you have kids, it's worthy of being a family heirloom! thanks, Wakodahatchee Chris
Your video was instructive. I will be building a new woodshop, small 18x24. I'm researching for a dust collection system that will do the job and not break the bank. I was looking at the Rockler 750 CFM . Thanks again for the video,
Watching you run that router along the edge of a board you were holding in your hand gave me anxiety. Next build: workbench! Keep up the great videos!
For the bandsaw: 4 inches of volume splits into two 2 1/2 hose's worth of volume. Go to Rockler and get the 4in to 2x 2 1/2 splitter. Then run one 2 1/2in hose into your main port and then get a flex-form hose that is more rigid and run the other half up the top of the table and set it right behind the blade above your work. I have that set up on my bandsaw and router table.
this looks and feels more like art than a DIY project. Great video, thanks!
MASTERPIECE.......totally intimidating for beginners...I have a loooong way to go....Great video thank you
I resemble that!
Thanks for all the information.
I completely agree on the practice and learn philosophy . You can’t nail and screw all your home projects then expect to have top notch joinery on a client project.
Very informative little project - I'm so glad I don't rent, and can plan a ducted system for my dream shed. I've been looking at ducted vacuum systems as I design my dream home, and a shop vac system just uses bigger pipes and more definite closure valves.
I'd suggest with your bent hose, if you can get an elbow for where the pipe exits the top of the machine, that will help, particularly if the elbow has a bit of a sweep to it, and ideally the opening that the hose goes into wants to be the same height as that elbow so that you have a much shorter hose run and less bending.
I love the way you explain everything. Really clean work.
To be honest, I've never seen your vid's before and I thought this would be another crap video about dust collectors. I'm happy I stuck around. You built a good system here. Thank you for sharing. Looks good.
I have that exact same shop vac and I feel obligated to recommend the 2.5" hose on it ASAP. The tiny hose it comes with clogs on EVERYTHING. But as cheap as it was (mine was $40 on Black Friday), it's still well worth it even after figuring in the cost of the 2.5" hose
Really good vid. I had already determined to enclose the shop vac and cyclone into a single unit. The discussion about 2" vrs 4" were very enlightening as well. The cabinet can roll up to what ever machine I was going to use as well as allow me to connect the tool to the vac using an I-vac switch. My deviation will be that I plan on installing a small air induction fan on one of the lower sides of the cabinet to make sure I don't burn up the vac prematurely. Subbed and belled for any future vids. Appreciate the effort.
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I had the little dust deputy and it inspired me to build something bigger. Their products are just that good! I like where you're going and not picking or anything, but something I found along the way was maximize tube size at every possible point. I realize your concept is portability but even the downsizing of the hose out of the top of the separator matters as larger spaces allow the particulate matter to reduce it's speed, making it easier to fall down into the first stage. Also, Your set up is begging for a third stage and it would get rid of that kink you don't like much anyway. Mines a lot different but in many ways similar to yours. Check it out if you want, you'll see what i mean on that third stage thing. Mine's just crude construction, but it was an experiment. Nice job, you got some great results! Thanks for helping the rest of us!
I like the mobile tower design, but my shop is so tiny can use a stationary wall mounted collector, hanging in a closet lined with sonopan instead of your cardboard. I'll have a 4" or 5" thick door constructed of over lapping baffles of sonopan.
I'd design a tower system with an upper and lower end louver system with sonopan baffles behind them. I am sure than major improvements can be made in the decibel levels. Thanks for the inspiration.
Damn dude! That was awesome! My wife is sitting on the couch over there so im watching with the sound off. I got to watch this again with sound!
Another great build, Shawn. I love my Super Dust Deputy. I have it paired with a HF DC and it works really well. To smooth out the steep curve from your Dust Deputy (DD) into the DC you might consider running a short piece of hard pipe (thin walled sewer pipe is more than sufficient and it is less expensive) up from the DD to a 45. Then over about a foot to another 45 and flex hose into the DC. Just one of many options.
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Wouwh! That monster looks really a bit oversized for being just a dust collector. But the work you did by itself was really awesome. What an esthetically nice woodwork! Not to mention the great outcome of that craft!
Not much more space than parts by themselves. It's just all lumped together. But with the cyclone you could mount the collector high up because you don't empty that bag often.
I learned more from this video than almost any other I can think of - thank you.
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Great job Sam! Your work is outstanding, you really take time to pay attention tot he details and make a beautiful piece of furniture...not just a shop cabinet! I hope one day I can be as talented as you. Thanks for sharing.
Great informative video! There are so many different camps regarding the use of dust collectors and shop vacs. Having you talk about taking a 4" hose down to 2" still does not suck out the volume needed for miter or table saw. We have very little room for our future woodworking area in our garage but seriously debated to set up our shop vac or to invest in a dust collector. Since we only have a miter and table saw and no space, shop vac it is! Thank you!!
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Very nice workmanship! Fine Shaker cabinet for dust collecting!
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Good work!
Regarding the need for the second, the small vac... you really do not need it :D
The point is to properly understand how the cyclone dust separator works - it just needs the air with dust coming with the proper speed exceeding some threshold value at it's entry point. To do so you just need to replace your huge sucking tube with the smaller one fitting to your tools - for example when your tool has 2" port then you need 2' tube delivering air with dust directly to your separator with the proper speed - the reduction must be done at cyclone entry point, the best with the small tube ending just at the cyclone circular wall. Actually going with smaller sucking tube gives you the benefit of greater speed so the separator will be more efficient :D I think the enhanced design of the next cyclone separators will have slightly reduced entry port diameter compared with output one so the airflow on output will be slower, not taking so many dust particles to the next stage. And maybe the good idea would be to have a fan speed control so in the case of the smaller entry tube you can limit its power and airflow to the just enough level. Diameter reduced by 2 means cross-section is reduced by 4, same airflow! Another thing - avoid airflow resistance points: short tube is better, if you need long tube use smooth PVC pipe (corrugated has 9 times more airflow resistance!), avoid square angles - use two 45 degrees instead, avoid sharp edges (turbulence make resistance and noise), reductions should be in cone shape. The proper design is key!
I agree to one of the comments that you are a really fine teacher I really enjoyed the video and was enjoy learning much more from you
What a great job.This will last a lifetime. You really do good work.
I've never written in comments before.
I really loved your eye for detail in the wood grain and your joy in doing something right the first time.
I do have one concern.
Air flow to cool the motor.
I'm 66yr old, self employed Handyman for 25 yrs, but just a Mr fixit all my life.
About 25+ yrs ago, I lived in a small apt and tumbled agates. To quiet down the sound of the tumbler, I draped a towel over it. I woke in the morning to silence. The motor had overheated and quit.
About 20 yrs ago, I replaced the motor in my Shop Vac with a canister vacuum motor. The motor on a shop vac has a fan on top to cool it. The canister vacuum motor drew the air through it to cool.
When I switched it over, there was longer air going threw it, because of the design of shop vaca, so it just overheated, smoked and ...
I enjoyed the whole video, but when I saw you inclosing the motor, a red flag went up. You would be opening the top, and sooner then expected, to replace the motor.
You may have done this already and, "hopefully" not the hard way.
Keep up the good work and your quest for quality.
God Bless. JIM P.
Machelle Palmi you forget the bottom is open. Ran all day, never got more than a arm to touch. Plenty of airflow.
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Thank for getting back to me.
You may have figured out I'm not Machelle, I won't go there.
I missed the bottom was open.
I also want to say, I really appreciate people like yourself, putting out these videos, sharing your experiences with verious products, how todo stuff and most of all, "Quality workmanship"
I've watched some videos and ask myself, "Why are they showing this, but then there's a lot of good quality ones, your included, that are very educational and showing, not just pride, but quality in what you do. Actually, showing their God given gifts.
There's a difference between someone showing you how they do something, and someone showing you a part of who they are, being true to themselves and others.
I appreciate what I saw and keep up the good work.
God Bless. JIM
Great attention to your building methods!
I use auto-start/stop switches on my 120V tools so I do not have to listen to the vac or dust collector running when the tool isn't. I too learned that lesson about inlet restriction and also the need for immediate spool up of suction that a miter saw requires. A shop vac can't be replaced! I also have introduced blast gates to redirect my collection use on 2-1/2" and 4"" as well. Points to consider. ..
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great job an great use of jointery to your advantage in certain situations for structural support an integrity. Great job over all.
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As so many others have stated - BEAUTIFUL AND BRILLIANT ! This is my first visit to your channel. You have gained another subscriber.
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On your jet band saw, take that 2" port off and make a plywood box with a 4" hose adapter to pull from the big hole the jet has where the port is you cannuse foam tape to seal up the gaps but this way your pulling down from the table top cut out hole, now to let more air in the incert drill a bunch of holes into it like Swiss cheese to let air pull in from the top, thats going to give the bottom of the cavity a negative presure letting the dust collector pull dust from inside that cavity, you can add foam tape to the door and see if that helps.
The jointer its got a perfect ramp so chips slide down and get drawn into the hose you can close it off that will give a lot of airflow off the top, becuse you've created a negative presure area. So it will pull air right around the blades.
On the chop saw you want a large mouth opening like you'd use on the lathe.
Then box in the sides.
That is a beautiful piece of shop furniture!
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Great Video! Appreciate The Info!!
I was checking out the dust stopper and your webpage popped up and I'm sure glad that it did. 😁
You got some very valuable information and insight into the passion that you have for it.
I am a bass player musician for the past forty three years, but I've always loved woodworking, my father was a carpenter by trade and had been employed by many carpenter construction companies in erecting buildings in the downtown area where I lived when I was a little boy, he has since passed away some 25 ago but I still remember all that he taught me about ruler measurements etc.
I enjoy watching your programs and all your building tips and tricks that you have, but you also remind me of my favorite comedian the late great Sam Kinison, the facial expression that you made when you said you had to buy an extra shop vac and how much more money you had to spend that cracked me up.
I had to go back and rewind it a couple times just to get the laughs out I'm still laughing about it. 😂🤣
Keep up the good work bro.
Best regards
Richard. 😉👍
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The quiet, thoughtful, creative side of Sam Kinison . . .
That’s some good looking pine! Nice design
Can't take credit for the pine. The tree did that work.
Don’t forget to mark the bolts before & after the hot glue. Using different colors to more quickly identify any movement. 🤓 Just say’en. 🤓😎😜🤣
That’s the cyclone I want to get (someday). Right now all I need is for my lathe. 🙏 Hopefully I’m looking at a grizzly @ a ridiculously great price through their own site. 🤯 like I said, I’m about to order it. 24” x 48” with a swing-away bed section for the tail stock. 🤯 Seriously, my mind is seriously blown.
We’ll see. 🙏💰🙏 hopefully. I’m unfortunately dependent upon others at the moment so I’ll ask, but my brother just got me my current lathe for my b-day last month (basically) 😉🤓👊🤙 It wasn’t all that expensive $158, and works great, but if I could possibly get a much larger/more powerful/more capable/safer/I could actually make pieces worth some decent 💰💰😎,.... Then I have to try.!..!... 😉
I want to hit up some local art markets and maybe even a farmers market here & there. But.... I really need a bigger machine with more power. (Also a set of carbide bit tools would be awesome . At least would make sharpening so, soo, sooooooo much easier (also cuts easier too). Wish me luck. I’ll take any prayers (put in a good word for me. 😉🙏) y’all may gracelessly offer on my behalf for my dreams, ...😔... would be much appreciated. 🙏 👊🙏🤙
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Gryphon WoodWorks
Excellent video and process
Thank you pointing out the need for quiet dependable Dust Collection
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Is it me or is this guy crazy good job bud
Thank you. This video answered all my questions on dust collection in my small shop.
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I have been trying to get something together for my Shopsmith equipment. I purchased a Shopsmith DC 330L dust collector to replace the original one that came with my Shopsmith package, DC 3300, it worked well for the saw dust but not for the jointer and the planer. I am constantly getting hose blockage from the shavings and from hand plane shavings. I guess I definitely need a cyclone to separate out the larger stuff. Thanks for all the Information and the help. I am definitely going to be building both versions of these systems.
Cyclone (or seperator) will make a huge difference.
I envy Muricans...all this kit in UK is a kings ransom....the Dust Deputy as shown is about 220 bucks the Dust Right impeller unit is 500 bucks...add more for shipping and import tax...900-1000 should cover it.....Jeezus...I would be better off buying three separate canister vacuum cleaners and fixing them up one per work station. Also...we just don’t have cheap ‘do everything’ hardware outlets like your Lowes and Harbour Freight, where you can buy just a length of hose or single sheet wood at less than a small fortune. Our hardware retailers like to sell everything in packs or under brand names where you are paying more for the name label than the cost of the item! Then.....Wow! what a nice big workshop, my little craft room is like 7x10.....Sigh! Good job I don’t build wardrobes huh! Lol. Anyway...good video👍 and interesting/useful techniques.
It's always greener on the other side. Y'all have lots of stuff we're envious of in the craft. Namely some of the best educators.
Great build! I love the beauty of your work.
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You kinda look like Sam Kinison. Good info. Thanks
I just love your channel. Informative and entertaining No Bullxxxt.
Nice work. I also love yellow pine.
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Excellent video and process
Nice Job. I went looking for dust collection but I think I learned more about wood Joints and for that I thank you.
SOLVING THE SHOP VAC. There is a possible way to use the dust collector with a 2" port. you can create a venturi effect with a 2" wye and a 45 elbow. Connect them together to make a tee fitting, connect the 45 end to the equipment, then put the 4 to 2 reducer on the outlet side of the wye. as the dust collector pulls the air thru the wye, this should create a vacuum on the 45 side as well.
This doesn’t increase the pressure issue.
Blower can be mounted above the dust deputy. Eliminates a section of flex hose.
Nicw build. Anything that improves your craftmanship is not a waste.
When it comes to small dust ports you need to open two ports so there is enough air flow so the fan does not cavitate. try that and you may not need the shop vac
Yep this is the answer. Of course there are plenty of other good uses for a nice shopvac.
I use a lot of construction pine too. I've gotten critical comments from a few friends about it. "Why are you wasting your time using cheap wood?" is the most common. 1) I'm learning and honing my skills, 2) for many projects it make perfect sense to build it using a lower cost material especially if it isn't used outdoors, 3) I sometimes use pine as my proof on concept to model in pine then repeat using hardwood. The biggest downside to pine is the sap build up on my blades and tools. Otherwise pine is fine.
Pine is Fine
Wow! A lot of crafting going into such a utilitarian thing but as you say, why not practice your joinery skills on it. I too like fiddling with designs when I come up with an idea but I do it by taking measurements and putting the information into CAD software. There is a free 2D-CAD program called libreCAD available on the internet that performs well enough for my needs. I would have created a way of mounting the fan inside the box to the point that the intake going to the separator would have come out closer to the corner of the box, hopefully with enough clearance to allow for PVC piping between the fan intake and the exhaust of the separator. One thing I saw in the comments was about providing fresh/cooling air to the fan motor. Maybe ducting inside your "sound box" could be put in place to make sure that a small amount of the air coming out of the filter bag would be routed through the top of the box. Or maybe all that random air movement inside the "sound box" is already sufficient. Only testing would tell.
An idea I have is that if this was an installation with piping mounted to the walls (with "blast gates?") at the end of the run of piping a 90 degree elbow pointing down could be added and then a weighted flue dampener could be added and set with sufficient weights that no matter how small of a vacuum hose you attached, the dampener would always open enough to let an appropriate amount of air pass through to keep the impeller from cavitating and preventing the system from generating any vacuum.
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Thank you so much for a great video! I really like the way you explain things
Thanks