I'm rolling the camera forward while turning the zoom back. It's was difficult to get both the rolling and then zoom twist smooth at the same time along with the auto focus staying locked on but a couple of the "many" attempts turned out pretty good. Thanks
What a great way to solve our perennial problem of pipes never quite matching with dust collection. Your method is SAFE, accurate and repeatable. Great problem solving.
Also it might help to tilt the blade slightly, because vacuum hose fittings have a taper, so having at least some taper might be helpful? I'm interested to see how this could be done on a radial arm saw haha.
Another option for pvc is a heat gun. Heat up the pvc until it is soft, then you can push it into the shop vac fitting. Once it cools, you can pull it back out and it will stay conformed to the shop vac fitting.
I had a bunch of great quality attachments from a dead Dyson vacuum that I did the heat gun trick. Just needed to pick up the Ridgid orange hose to make it work.
I made this jig and it works very well, but I made one modification to the system. I made an adaptor that fits into the inside of the pipe that fits tight and added a 1/4” bolt through the adapter. Put the adaptor in my battery drill and go to town making adaptors. No more tired fingers. I also make adaptors on longer pieces of pipe say 8 “ to 12” long and reduce both ends. I found that I needed some of them a little longer. Saved me a coupling or two on a few projects. Thanks for that.👍
This is a great tip video! While watching this video I was already seeing a "better way" by cutting them to 5" and doing both ends and then cutting them in half to length. This way I'd have more to grip (above the fence) while turning. But then... you whipped out the cordless drill idea and BOOM! Mind blown! Clearly, I didn't know who I was dealing with - lol. What a game changer. Genius idea brother!
Dude....this stuff must keep you up at night! Regardless, and since I don't have a 3D printer, I'll be making my own adapters with this technique. Very creative and well done. Thx
Definitely agree with the use of PVC fittings as alternative to the over priced vacuum fitting. I have to say though that this is the most intricate alternative to a lathe I've ever seen. The PVC turns/machines very nicely with basic tools.
while true, most people do not have a lathe in their shop. That is certainly a luxury item unless you make your living producing table legs and similar items
Good morning again. As a quick follow up to my comments yesterday, I found that my hand held jig saw didn’t quite get the desired true hole I had hoped for. I don’t have a spindle sander but plan to pick up a 2 1/4 hole saw today then “ sneak” up on the perfect 2 3/8 hole I need. Though my first attempt wasn’t as neat, the outcome still yielded 4 usable adapters. Many thanks again
You are very welcome! Stayed tuned for the rest of the series. Part 2 has a few cool tips if you haven't seen it ruclips.net/video/CEouFGfZzEg/видео.html and more to come :)
I like you style! You made me smile at the end, when your were saying “make it rain! I’m following you because I like your style and killer positive attitude and I look forward to seeing you more 👍
I clicked on your video because your title told me what your video was about and you got right to the chase. I'm so sick of these videos "OMG you won't understand this until you see it." Usually they are bad videos with really no substance. Good on you sir, good video.
Absolute genius!! I’m redoing some of my sawdust collection and this is perfect for my needs. I really appreciate such a down to earth way of making these adaptors. Heading to the shop soon to make your jig. Many thanks
Ingenious! I like how you think! A very creative and easy solution to a problem we all face with any dust collection system. The tool manufacturers really need to get on the same page and make tool ports all the same. It's just another way they force us to either buy adapters like Rockler's tool adaption hose kit or go to the drawing board and create our own adapters. In this case, your solution which I just may have to try myself! I currently use a big garage wall type of vac for all my tools and it works great for my handheld power tools, but not so much for my larger tools. I have a large Rigid shop vac in my basement that is practically brand new that may get added to the system until I can get a 2 or 3 hp DC. My only dislike of using either is the noise they make. The spring project of 2021 is to build a DC "closet" off the back of the shop. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Well that was a fantastic creative video on how to make a 2" inch PVC pipe fit your shop vac! Now I have to scour RUclips for DIY Shop Dust Collection Setups! I thought I had to go thru life hooking up my vacuum cleaner to each one of my shop equipment that throws up dust and debris. Thanks for enlightening me to the next level of dust free efficiency!
Thanks Tuck! This was the first in a series on shop vac dust collection. More ideas on the way including set ups on table saw, miter saw, drill press, dust collection cart and more. Thanks for watching! :)
Very clever and worth it if you are running a lot of shop vacs as you do. One suggestion: sharp 90 degree bends cut airflow by some amount. I would try a longer radius 90 degree sweep elbow and see what effect it has.
Thanks Jim! The sweep is always a great option. I usually choose the small form factor of the street 90's to try to keep things tight and close to the vac. It would be neat to do an airflow test somehow :)
Shop Vac fittings are tapered to give a seal when they are seated. Tilt the blade 1* and do everything else the same. They won't pull out or vibrate out when in use and the little twist at the end makes it secure.Good video and Good Luck!
That looks like the best way I’ve seen to make a few inexpensive, but we’ll make adapters. It didn’t seem like you needed it, but thought some paraffin rubbed into the inside diameter of the jig might help reduce friction in the jig. I just retired and need to set up my dust collection system. I will be using your method to make adapters, since I think $7-$15 each for commercially made ones is ridiculous. Since we have an irrigation supplier less than a mile from my house, getting all the right sizes and fittings is zero issue. Thanks again for a great and very practical solution to a real issue for hobby shops!
Great idea, well presented, thank you. My suggestion to make it a little easier to do by hand is to machine the recess in the end of a longer tube then cut it off to required length.
I really wish I had seen this video yesterday! I spent over 3 hours between Home Depot, Rona and Lowe's trying to find something that would fit my ridgid shop vac and my dewalt table saw. Ended up paying over $25 for flexible couplings, when I could have bought a pvc pipe and made this jig! Well, at least I know now. Thanks, you are awesome!
Maybe you can take the flexible couplings back. They take anything back no days! I just uploaded the second video in this series and it's all about the hoses. There's a few cool ideas in that one too! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment :)
Such a Great idea on making the fittings. A slight degree of tilt in the table saw blade and you can make tapered fitting connections for a snug fit with some range. Now I’m thinking this could be useful for tapering round wooden legs to be but into holes for chair leg joinery.
Wow! This was great! RUclips popped you into my suggested feed and by gosh.. they DO know what I like! Greatly enjoy your presentation, editing, and of course the project. SUBBED!!!
I been trying to get this done for 10 yrs. now. It reached the level of a short story. Trifling. Haven’t been able to stay put long enough to put a shop together. Maybe this year- 2020. Your stuff is cool. Over used word for sure, except for you. Thanks, yah I subbed.
Pure Genius. Thank you. I never thought to use my table saw like this. I made drill rig like yours, thinking i was original and really making an annoying dusty mess because I would use sand paper for the adjustment. Now I know better, thanks again.
I've been wanting to make a stacked dust separator using a shop vac so I'll give these a try. Thanks. On a side note I've used the drill method for cleaning the end of copper pipe before soldering by running a bolt through the cleaner. First time I did it I burned the hell out of my thumb, forgot about friction. Lol, lesson learned...
Great video. You could also do it on a router table with just the fence and a stop block. Use longer pieces then trim to length. You would get better precision.
Thanks Steve! The router table will work too. Some of my commenters recommended tilting the blade on the table saw to create a slight taper and I have found 1 degree to be the sweet spot for the perfect fit if you do make this jig. This makes for a perfect fit every time with some tolerances. Something to consider when working out the router table version. Be sure to check out the next video in the series and if you just need a few adapters you can always get them from me. B3G1F Links in the description :)
Super job Tony. Excellent 'how to' and really entertaining vid. I liked the round-the-table shot at two minutes forty-ish but I don't think I'd have noticed the dolly zoom if you hadn't mentioned it. Oh well, that shows what a philistine I am. Good job mate, thanks for all the effort you put into your vids.
I do this kind of pipe reduction all time. I just us my wire wheel that’s on the other end of my 6” grinder. It is very fast, but not as perfect as using a table saw as a lathe type result.
Omg I’m shook! SHOOK. Found you yesterday and I’ve been watching your vids. This is just some next level MacGyver ingenuity. You’re awesome, my man!! So glad I found you. 🙌🏼✌🏼
This is called "Imagineering." Too bad the dust collection industry cant standardize dimensions. I have used my lathe, though your solution has some advantages over the lathe. I will build a jig like yours, however, I will drill the hole with a Forstner bit. Think outside the box. Great Idea!
I just stumbled across your video and immediately thought of using my lathe as well. Good idea. Just subscribed and going to check out your other videos.
Seems as though using a very small angle to the blade, 3-4°, may help the friction fit seal, if done correctly. Extra taper may help account for variance in different manufacturers and stretching or contraction from wear or temperature. To much may result in lack of sealing surface though... Will be trying in the coming weeks myself. Will report back if I recall too.
This was a great video when I first saw it, some years ago. It's still a great video because I can't find my adaptor for my Ridgid 12" sliding compound miter saw. So glad I found it again!!
Great tip and jig. Just trying to figure out why so many shop vacs for dust collection. With what you have invested in shop vacs you could have bought a shop fox dust collector and plumed it with pvc
Hey Slow and Expensive, thanks for taking the time and effort to make this excellent video tutorial on making adapters from PVC pipe to fit the Rigid shop vacs.
For that final touch, spray some slightly diluted acetone on the rough cut. It will soften the PVC a bit and as it dries out it should leave a very smooth finish. (or if you have it, you can use PVC primer and let it dry)
You have solved the problem the dust collection industry created - even staying with the same brand I can't get hose couplers to work (solution is miles of duct tape - don't laugh you use it too) - great, simple and cheap jig/solution - very much thanks for sharing
Great idea!! I have a lathe and have had to make custom adapters and did some for under the house. Cool camera work. Sah-weet video!! Thanks for sharing.
Lol, we all know it doesn’t matter what’s easiest,😁 looks likes a fun little project. Appreciate the idea. I’ve seen people just heat up the pipe and reshape them but like this idea better, kinda cool. Thanks.
That was beautiful , like other comments on here saying you should use a lathe, not everyone has a lathe but have the tools you have. I just stumbled along this video and it was an eye opener, I have modified mine with electrical tape every time, and it sucks. Thank you for teaching this trick, great video and good vibes.
Don't only that; they make EVERY POSSIBLE EFFORT to make their vacuum UN-Compatible with every other Brand too. I've a DeWalt that I cannot connect easily even with some of their own tools!
This is a genius idea and deserve to have a patten for the design. If you could design one that can modify different sizes of pvc pipes, it would be totally awesome 👏👍
Thank you, problem solved and pretty easy. Took my time making the jig and still got it a bit oversize. Simple fix, used some packing tape inside the opening and it not only tightened the fit, the smooth tape made the PVC turn very easy. Counting the turns to raise the blade is genius. Actually, this idea is ingenious.
Kudos by the way. My dad had a cabinet shop so I grew up in it. I thought I had seen every jig known to man and have built many myself as well. Never would have come up with your solution even if my life depended on it. Lol You are one savvy guy or you have no life and live in the shop!🙏🙏🙏
How have I not seen your channel before today. You remind me of myself except you have a RUclips channel and a good personality and good ideas. Other than that practically the same person.
@@tonmage29 I have seen the pipe extenders up to 4", used many times. Don't know if plumbing supply houses stock them- know pool supply companies do though..
I just made one of those adapters. It was pretty easy using your instructions. With that adapter, 3 elbows and 2 ends as shown in your short hose video, I shortened the hose to my Dust Deputy cyclone by about 3 feet.
This method would probably come in handy for making one of the bucket cyclone collectors, where there pipes don't exactly fit the vacuum. Great idea! Thanks.
Excellent point considering those bucket cyclone collectors supposedly work great but has one of the highest mark-ups I've ever seen in comparison to the cost of materials to build it. HD wants like $50 or something nuts like that for a plastic funnel with a somewhat unique shape that couldn't have cost more than $5 and that is being extremely generous. I can't bring myself to pay that much for something I could reasonably fashion myself for pennies. If someone ever starts making these adapters and selling them on eBay they'll make a mint. Slow & Expensive should make an adapter and call it the Cheap & Fast Vacuum Adapter by Slow & Expensive. (You can use that if you want to.) Great content. Novel and interesting which is not easy to find these days on the YT.
Great idea. I have a bunch of stationary and hand power tools with different sized dust ports. I have a ryobi battery rolling vacuum. No one seemed to make all the adapters I needed so I finally figured out to use the rubber pipe adapters that have metal bands you tighten around each end. Was able to order all the different sized ones I needed off Amazon and weren't expensive. They work great!
Hey Bro. Thanks for uploading your video. Your cool attitude and positivity shines through. Please continue making helpful videos! You gave me a whole new set of ideas. All the best...
Man, this is a little weird. I literally was in my shop last night eyeballing my shop vac/cyclone setup pondering how to replace the hose from the vac to the cyclone with PVC pipe since the corrugated hose connecting them now is probably reducing the efficiency. I pulled up RUclips this morning and bam. This was the first recommended video. Big thumbs up for sharing.
Great out of the box thinking. With 3D printers everywhere any size adapter can be knocked out pretty quick. I recently made a 4" adapter to fit PVC, 3D printed.
That is a cool idea for a jig. I noticed that you have 5 or 6 Ridgid shop vacs, that I can see. Those start out at 80$ and go can double depending that depending on what vac you get. That's 500$ on the low end in shop vacs. You can buy a standalone dust system for that and not only save a lot of space but have a better system. I built a dust system with a shop vac (gift) and made it into a standup cart so I can move it around. It works great but couldn't imagine using that many vacs.
I built the jig. When I went to raise the blade for the first time to set the blade at the right height and the blade was really hard to raise. I took it apart looked at everything. It all seemed right. Tried it again and same thing. It was trying to raise the wood up as if it was binding and the blade would not raise. For sake of not having it all self destruct or sending out a projectile or ruin the saw or blade I had to abandon the project not ever knowing exactly why it failed. Took me 3 hours and it was a bust. Oh well.... Thanks for taking the time to post it.
I don't know either. If your blade is good it should cut into it with ease. The board should be clamped tight enough that it will not move. You'd have to have a very dull blade or have the blade on backwards to not get a cut or for it to push the board up. Probably a lot of burning and smoking as well. If you can't get the blade to move up and down easily on the saw in the first place you probably have a gob of dust binding up the works. If this is the case blow it out good and lube up the lift with some WD40 or 3 in one oil. It should cut into the board with similar ease as raising the bare blade.
@@SlowandExpensive Thanks for the quick response. We were definitely on the same brainwave as far as trouble shooting. The blade is nearly new and did all the cuts for the jig with no smoking, binding, or tear out. The saw is less than a year old and is clean and goes up and down with ease during the whole build process including while using my crosscut sled. The moment I try to raise it with the jig clamp down I go from silky smooth to having to use both hands to raise it just a 1/4" and then binds and lift up on the board even with 4 clamps where it seems something is going to break. The only thing that is not perfect is that the board does have a slight bow to it although it meets the fence straight. Still doesn't explain why the blade can't go up. I'm baffled. I ordered a new hose kit. Hopefully it come with a coupling that will work while I figure something else out since I'm sure that it's something wrong on my end and not a flaw in your design. Keep up the amazing job man. I am truly marveled by your ingenuity and craftsmanship both in your projects and in the filming. Nice bug btw. I had an old 62 with ragtop 1600 back in the day. Cheers
Great idea mate!! Always "Vork 'Schmarter', nodt Harder", Yah. It is my belief that a LOT of engineers get paid OVERTIME, just to make sure that Plumbing Stuff does NODT interchange! Gb
I know that I'm late to this, but, when I made mine I tilted the saw blade very slightly so they are small at the starting end. I found this made them slide in easily and then lock on the larger part of the taper. Thaks for the tip.
what a great method for trimming the outside of the pipe! this gives me an idea for using the same concept with a router table when the inside diameter of a pipe needs to be increased. great video. thanks for sharing!
Perfect craftsmanship! I used to have a lot of troubles when trying to fit home depot pipes using cutting approaches, until I got a cheap 3D printer. It prints precisely accurate adapters with different angles, different sizes, and with flanges. It can also make flexible parts with elastic filaments. That said, it is so entertaining to watch what you are doing.
I have two workbenches in my basement that's divided into two sides with a center wall. One side for electronic and electrical things, and the other side for fabricating wood and metal things. I converted one window into a spray booth and also used to vent fumes from soldering. I mounted a vacuum cleaner motor (similar to a Shop Vac type) on the top of a cardboard 22 gallon can. I wired the motor to two two way switches, to turn the vacuum on/off from either side of the basement. I did use black plastic pipe and has three ports from the original vacuum and salvaged from a dead shop vac and used PVC glue to connect them to the pipes to the vacuum , two on one side of the basement and one on the other and the exhaust piped to vent out where the spray booth is. It did come in handy to collect saw dust from my radial arm saw, metal chips from my drill press, and dust from my bench grinder, and all around cleaning in the basement. I did make round wood plugs with a bolt handle to cap the ports not being used. Thanks for making this video. I may eventually run pipes over to the work benches and hang the flex pipes closer to where I can use them, instead of putting several together to get them to reach where needed.
Thanks! Sounds like you're getting some good use out of your setup! I find they work well and can be a very affordable solution for dust collection. This video is the first in a series of videos to share a bunch of helpful tips, ideas, and discoveries about them. Hopefully there will be even more good ideas and suggestions in the comments during the series.
At first I thought this was a lot of effort when you could have just used a heat gun. But the finished product was so satisfying I guess it was well worth the effort. 👍🏻
Definitely a slick and ingenious jig. Could see other applications. Another way would be to drill out a die of the proper diameter, dip one end of the blank into boiling water, softening it enough to press into the die. Not saying it’s a better way, just an alternate method. As they say there’s more than one way to skin a cat, although it never ends well for the cat. Count me a subscriber.
And not only this, but many other things can be easily done with a drill, thanks to its ability to turn slowly. I often use my hand drill to spin a small part while using a Dremel or a sander to perform some cut or sanding. The drill keeps the part centered and turns it to achieve an uniform material removal!
I've used a rubber coupling on many projects to attach a vacuum hose to abs pipe... I like the drill he is using near the end of the video.. otherwise I would not have cut them to final length until after the process, seems like it would be easiler to turn..
Okay, I'm impressed, but... as a newbie who is still terrified of a table saw, I realize projects like this are definitely for the more skilled among us! When I watch you guys who know what you're doing, it opens up different avenues of tool usage that I wouldn't have considered and helps me see the possibilities. Still not going to use a table saw, but.... LOL Thanks for sharing your skills!
I do not know what you specialise in, but after watching this video, I am subscribing! Bloody beautiful! Keep up your great stuff, you furry faced genius!
Let me know if you liked the dolly zoom shot at the end? First time doing one. It took several tries but I thought it turned out pretty cool. :)
Slow and Expensive it looked dope! Keep it up, great idea btw...it got my wheels turning, I’ll be adding this to my shop
Thanks man! Much appreciated
Are you backing up the camera while zooming in at end? Background came into focus...cool
I'm rolling the camera forward while turning the zoom back. It's was difficult to get both the rolling and then zoom twist smooth at the same time along with the auto focus staying locked on but a couple of the "many" attempts turned out pretty good. Thanks
Slow and Expensive that was really cool! I was going to message you asking how you pulled that off. Awesome!!
Sir , you make the best videos ever . You talk at a great pace and show your work with detailed video and pictures .
Thank you so much!
What a great way to solve our perennial problem of pipes never quite matching with dust collection. Your method is SAFE, accurate and repeatable. Great problem solving.
Thank you Philip! I appreciate the comment :)
Also it might help to tilt the blade slightly, because vacuum hose fittings have a taper, so having at least some taper might be helpful? I'm interested to see how this could be done on a radial arm saw haha.
Some would highly question the safety. Regarding several of the steps. Although... using a router has similar safety concerns. At least the jig helps.
Another option for pvc is a heat gun. Heat up the pvc until it is soft, then you can push it into the shop vac fitting. Once it cools, you can pull it back out and it will stay conformed to the shop vac fitting.
I had a bunch of great quality attachments from a dead Dyson vacuum that I did the heat gun trick. Just needed to pick up the Ridgid orange hose to make it work.
I made this jig and it works very well, but I made one modification to the system. I made an adaptor that fits into the inside of the pipe that fits tight and added a 1/4” bolt through the adapter. Put the adaptor in my battery drill and go to town making adaptors. No more tired fingers. I also make adaptors on longer pieces of pipe say 8 “ to 12” long and reduce both ends. I found that I needed some of them a little longer. Saved me a coupling or two on a few projects.
Thanks for that.👍
Cool! I ended up doing the same thing with the drill, you may have missed it if you didn't watch the whole video. Great minds think alike :)
This is a great tip video!
While watching this video I was already seeing a "better way" by cutting them to 5" and doing both ends and then cutting them in half to length. This way I'd have more to grip (above the fence) while turning.
But then... you whipped out the cordless drill idea and BOOM! Mind blown! Clearly, I didn't know who I was dealing with - lol. What a game changer. Genius idea brother!
Thanks Tee Jay!
Dude....this stuff must keep you up at night! Regardless, and since I don't have a 3D printer, I'll be making my own adapters with this technique. Very creative and well done. Thx
Thank you!
Definitely agree with the use of PVC fittings as alternative to the over priced vacuum fitting. I have to say though that this is the most intricate alternative to a lathe I've ever seen. The PVC turns/machines very nicely with basic tools.
A breakthrough in low technology :)
while true, most people do not have a lathe in their shop. That is certainly a luxury item unless you make your living producing table legs and similar items
Good morning again. As a quick follow up to my comments yesterday, I found that my hand held jig saw didn’t quite get the desired true hole I had hoped for. I don’t have a spindle sander but plan to pick up a 2 1/4 hole saw today then “ sneak” up on the perfect 2 3/8 hole I need. Though my first attempt wasn’t as neat, the outcome still yielded 4 usable adapters. Many thanks again
You are very welcome! Stayed tuned for the rest of the series. Part 2 has a few cool tips if you haven't seen it
ruclips.net/video/CEouFGfZzEg/видео.html
and more to come :)
I like you style! You made me smile at the end, when your were saying “make it rain! I’m following you because I like your style and killer positive attitude and I look forward to seeing you more 👍
Thanks Mark! I appreciate the support :)
I clicked on your video because your title told me what your video was about and you got right to the chase. I'm so sick of these videos "OMG you won't understand this until you see it." Usually they are bad videos with really no substance. Good on you sir, good video.
Thanks
Absolute genius!! I’m redoing some of my sawdust collection and this is perfect for my needs. I really appreciate such a down to earth way of making these adaptors. Heading to the shop soon to make your jig.
Many thanks
Thanks Phil! Running the jig with the blade tilted 1 degree adds a nice taper that makes an even better fit.
Ingenious! I like how you think! A very creative and easy solution to a problem we all face with any dust collection system. The tool manufacturers really need to get on the same page and make tool ports all the same. It's just another way they force us to either buy adapters like Rockler's tool adaption hose kit or go to the drawing board and create our own adapters. In this case, your solution which I just may have to try myself! I currently use a big garage wall type of vac for all my tools and it works great for my handheld power tools, but not so much for my larger tools. I have a large Rigid shop vac in my basement that is practically brand new that may get added to the system until I can get a 2 or 3 hp DC. My only dislike of using either is the noise they make. The spring project of 2021 is to build a DC "closet" off the back of the shop. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Thank you!
Very precise and safe way to mill your own reducers out of PVC, Thanks for Sharing 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Thanks John!
Well that was a fantastic creative video on how to make a 2" inch PVC pipe fit your shop vac! Now I have to scour RUclips for DIY Shop Dust Collection Setups! I thought I had to go thru life hooking up my vacuum cleaner to each one of my shop equipment that throws up dust and debris. Thanks for enlightening me to the next level of dust free efficiency!
Thanks Tuck! This was the first in a series on shop vac dust collection. More ideas on the way including set ups on table saw, miter saw, drill press, dust collection cart and more. Thanks for watching! :)
Very clever and worth it if you are running a lot of shop vacs as you do.
One suggestion: sharp 90 degree bends cut airflow by some amount. I would try a longer radius 90 degree sweep elbow and see what effect it has.
Thanks Jim! The sweep is always a great option. I usually choose the small form factor of the street 90's to try to keep things tight and close to the vac. It would be neat to do an airflow test somehow :)
you can get a similar effect with two 45s and they will have a shorter overall length
Just came across your adapter from 2" PVC...AWESOME. Just what I've needed as commercially made adapters aren't cheap.Well done and thanks!!!!
Awesome, thank you!
Shop Vac fittings are tapered to give a seal when they are seated. Tilt the blade 1* and do everything else the same. They won't pull out or vibrate out when in use and the little twist at the end makes it secure.Good video and Good Luck!
Thanks Randell! You can taper the fittings slightly when you sand them too, although I'm getting a pretty tight fit without any tapering.
@@SlowandExpensive can it be air tight if its not water tight? it would be cool to test it. i guess it doesnt matter too much.
That looks like the best way I’ve seen to make a few inexpensive, but we’ll make adapters.
It didn’t seem like you needed it, but thought some paraffin rubbed into the inside diameter of the jig might help reduce friction in the jig.
I just retired and need to set up my dust collection system. I will be using your method to make adapters, since I think $7-$15 each for commercially made ones is ridiculous. Since we have an irrigation supplier less than a mile from my house, getting all the right sizes and fittings is zero issue.
Thanks again for a great and very practical solution to a real issue for hobby shops!
Thank you! There will be more
Great idea, well presented, thank you. My suggestion to make it a little easier to do by hand is to machine the recess in the end of a longer tube then cut it off to required length.
Thank you! Good idea
I really wish I had seen this video yesterday! I spent over 3 hours between Home Depot, Rona and Lowe's trying to find something that would fit my ridgid shop vac and my dewalt table saw. Ended up paying over $25 for flexible couplings, when I could have bought a pvc pipe and made this jig! Well, at least I know now. Thanks, you are awesome!
Maybe you can take the flexible couplings back. They take anything back no days! I just uploaded the second video in this series and it's all about the hoses. There's a few cool ideas in that one too! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment :)
Such a Great idea on making the fittings. A slight degree of tilt in the table saw blade and you can make tapered fitting connections for a snug fit with some range.
Now I’m thinking this could be useful for tapering round wooden legs to be but into holes for chair leg joinery.
Interesting thought! I've not tried any tilted cuts.
Now that is an outside the box way of turning a cylinder without a lathe, thanks for innovating!
Thank you!
Wow! This was great! RUclips popped you into my suggested feed and by gosh.. they DO know what I like! Greatly enjoy your presentation, editing, and of course the project. SUBBED!!!
Thanks Green Acre! I really appreciate it :)
I been trying to get this done for 10 yrs. now. It reached the level of a short story. Trifling. Haven’t been able to stay put long enough to put a shop together. Maybe this year- 2020. Your stuff is cool. Over used word for sure, except for you. Thanks, yah I subbed.
Thank you!
Probably one of the best tips I’ve seen in quite a while. Awesome job!
Thanks John! Best comment ever award! :)
Pure Genius. Thank you. I never thought to use my table saw like this. I made drill rig like yours, thinking i was original and really making an annoying dusty mess because I would use sand paper for the adjustment. Now I know better, thanks again.
Thanks! I'm glad that it helped
I've been wanting to make a stacked dust separator using a shop vac so I'll give these a try. Thanks.
On a side note I've used the drill method for cleaning the end of copper pipe before soldering by running a bolt through the cleaner. First time I did it I burned the hell out of my thumb, forgot about friction. Lol, lesson learned...
Thanks Bob! :)
Bob O'Connor I’ve just made one of the best stacked dust collector builds I’ve seen and is works a treat 👍😎🇦🇺
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Experience is a great teacher, but we've all been reminded that her tuition fees can be expensive. :-)
I may try this project in the future, but I am short on time, atm, so I am glad you offer them on eBay. What a great idea!
Great video. You could also do it on a router table with just the fence and a stop block. Use longer pieces then trim to length. You would get better precision.
Thanks Steve! The router table will work too. Some of my commenters recommended tilting the blade on the table saw to create a slight taper and I have found 1 degree to be the sweet spot for the perfect fit if you do make this jig. This makes for a perfect fit every time with some tolerances. Something to consider when working out the router table version. Be sure to check out the next video in the series and if you just need a few adapters you can always get them from me. B3G1F Links in the description :)
Don't have all the stuff you do, and this was a great idea...I would like to purchase a couple - please make them available. Have a great SHOP day!
Thanks! Okay, I'll have some ready soon :)
They are now available. Link is in the description if you ever want some. Thanks :)
Super job Tony. Excellent 'how to' and really entertaining vid. I liked the round-the-table shot at two minutes forty-ish but I don't think I'd have noticed the dolly zoom if you hadn't mentioned it. Oh well, that shows what a philistine I am. Good job mate, thanks for all the effort you put into your vids.
Thank you very much Mark! I really appreciate it.
I do this kind of pipe reduction all time. I just us my wire wheel that’s on the other end of my 6” grinder. It is very fast, but not as perfect as using a table saw as a lathe type result.
That sounds like another way to do it! :)
Omg I’m shook! SHOOK. Found you yesterday and I’ve been watching your vids. This is just some next level MacGyver ingenuity. You’re awesome, my man!! So glad I found you. 🙌🏼✌🏼
Thanks a million! More cool stuff to come :)
This is called "Imagineering." Too bad the dust collection industry cant standardize dimensions. I have used my lathe, though your solution has some advantages over the lathe. I will build a jig like yours, however, I will drill the hole with a Forstner bit. Think outside the box. Great Idea!
Thanks Tom!
Imagineering love that word
I just stumbled across your video and immediately thought of using my lathe as well. Good idea. Just subscribed and going to check out your other videos.
Seems as though using a very small angle to the blade, 3-4°, may help the friction fit seal, if done correctly. Extra taper may help account for variance in different manufacturers and stretching or contraction from wear or temperature. To much may result in lack of sealing surface though...
Will be trying in the coming weeks myself. Will report back if I recall too.
This was a great video when I first saw it, some years ago. It's still a great video because I can't find my adaptor for my Ridgid 12" sliding compound miter saw. So glad I found it again!!
Great tip and jig. Just trying to figure out why so many shop vacs for dust collection. With what you have invested in shop vacs you could have bought a shop fox dust collector and plumed it with pvc
Thanks Butch! It looks like a bigger investment that it really is.
If you mean the system I think you do, that's several thousand dollars! You can buy 5 gallon shop vacs $49.95 all day long!
Hey Slow and Expensive, thanks for taking the time and effort to make this excellent video tutorial on making adapters from PVC pipe to fit the Rigid shop vacs.
Thank you!
For that final touch, spray some slightly diluted acetone on the rough cut. It will soften the PVC a bit and as it dries out it should leave a very smooth finish. (or if you have it, you can use PVC primer and let it dry)
You have solved the problem the dust collection industry created - even staying with the same brand I can't get hose couplers to work (solution is miles of duct tape - don't laugh you use it too) - great, simple and cheap jig/solution - very much thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Great idea!! I have a lathe and have had to make custom adapters and did some for under the house. Cool camera work. Sah-weet video!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks David! Much appreciated :)
Loved your creativity and practical solutions. Great idea seeing your version of dust collection for individual tools in the back ground. 👍👍👍
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Lol, we all know it doesn’t matter what’s easiest,😁 looks likes a fun little project. Appreciate the idea. I’ve seen people just heat up the pipe and reshape them but like this idea better, kinda cool. Thanks.
When you said "Look at that", it was a Bob Ross moment.
Thanks for watching!
That was beautiful , like other comments on here saying you should use a lathe, not everyone has a lathe but have the tools you have. I just stumbled along this video and it was an eye opener, I have modified mine with electrical tape every time, and it sucks. Thank you for teaching this trick, great video and good vibes.
Thanks for watching Thad! I have some more helpful tip videos on the way :)
Awesome idea and execution. Too bad shop vac manufacturers don't make their fittings according to PVC pipe standards.
Thanks Guy! I appreciate it
Don't only that; they make EVERY POSSIBLE EFFORT to make their vacuum UN-Compatible with every other Brand too. I've a DeWalt that I cannot connect easily even with some of their own tools!
Great idea and well executed. Looks like it took 4 years for this to finally find me. I subscribed
Thank you, and welcome! There are several more in the series :)
Some one who knows how to edit themselves and great pictures.
Thank you!
This is a genius idea and deserve to have a patten for the design. If you could design one that can modify different sizes of pvc pipes, it would be totally awesome 👏👍
All that work just heat up and shrink just bottom half bam,done!!
Table saw vs. heat gun challenge video! :)
exactly what i thought... damm this guy knows how to make more work for himself
Would that not also reduce the inner diameter of the pipe, constricting flow?
@@walthodgson5780 It would restrict flow a bit but this is a shop vac not the air supply on the space shuttle.
Thank you, problem solved and pretty easy. Took my time making the jig and still got it a bit oversize. Simple fix, used some packing tape inside the opening and it not only tightened the fit, the smooth tape made the PVC turn very easy. Counting the turns to raise the blade is genius. Actually, this idea is ingenious.
Perfect!
Using a2 ft piece long is easier just cut to length after turning each piece unless you use the drill method
Randy Wells brilliant suggestion rw
You are the Dust Sensei. I appreciate your quality videos and education!! Extremely helpful. I bought a Ridgid shop vac and so far very happy. thanks.
So, are you going to sell these? Lol
I would buy half a dozen!
Didn't plan on it but maybe! :)
Kudos by the way. My dad had a cabinet shop so I grew up in it. I thought I had seen every jig known to man and have built many myself as well. Never would have come up with your solution even if my life depended on it. Lol You are one savvy guy or you have no life and live in the shop!🙏🙏🙏
Thanks!
Hey Hagen! They are available if you still need some. Thanks :)
How have I not seen your channel before today. You remind me of myself except you have a RUclips channel and a good personality and good ideas. Other than that practically the same person.
Haha! Good stuff Larry :)
If you have that much invested in tools then you probably have a lathe. No jig to build. No trying to get a round hole with a jig saw.
Tom Zorba true but I think this was to show it can be done by people that don’t have a lathe.
...I don't have a lathe.
...I DO have a lot if dust.
I liked your jig. I also use PVC to make adapters. I've found a heat gun will let you stretch or shrink the PVC size to fit most times.
Thank you! Yeah, heat gun works too. It takes a bit more patience but in the right hands it's a solid method.
Hate to rain in your parade, there is a fitting called a pipe extender, will save you from having to manufacture the fitting. They cost about $3.00
Sounds too good to be true!
The name of the channel is slow and expensive.
Yeah but the sizes are less than 2 inch. And besides this idea can be adopted for different project. So don't be a cloud on a sunny day.
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I have seen the pipe extenders up to 4", used many times. Don't know if plumbing supply houses stock them- know pool supply companies do though..
Just makes me so happy I have a lathe to do stuff like this lol
I just made one of those adapters. It was pretty easy using your instructions. With that adapter, 3 elbows and 2 ends as shown in your short hose video, I shortened the hose to my Dust Deputy cyclone by about 3 feet.
Very cool! Thank you. I'm always glad to hear the videos are helpful.
Brilliant! An innovative way to solve an annoying lack of product (or at least replace an unreasonably expensive product)!
Thank you!
Thanks alot, hate to admit that. I' ve struggled w/this fitting problem...but you shareing your method is fantastic. Thanks again 😎
Thanks for watching!
I like your method, better than heating, or spindle and turning on sandpaper. I'm going to try this. This was great.
Thanks! Glad it helped
Man you cut circles by hand better than I do with a hole saw... Feeling dejected lol. Great idea to make pipe adapters
Thanks!
This method would probably come in handy for making one of the bucket cyclone collectors, where there pipes don't exactly fit the vacuum. Great idea! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent point considering those bucket cyclone collectors supposedly work great but has one of the highest mark-ups I've ever seen in comparison to the cost of materials to build it. HD wants like $50 or something nuts like that for a plastic funnel with a somewhat unique shape that couldn't have cost more than $5 and that is being extremely generous. I can't bring myself to pay that much for something I could reasonably fashion myself for pennies. If someone ever starts making these adapters and selling them on eBay they'll make a mint. Slow & Expensive should make an adapter and call it the Cheap & Fast Vacuum Adapter by Slow & Expensive. (You can use that if you want to.) Great content. Novel and interesting which is not easy to find these days on the YT.
Thanks so much TD Smith! :)
Half way through the video I realized that I have a lathe and I don't need to build this jig, but never the less I'm impressed with the idea! :)
Thanks!
Great idea. I have a bunch of stationary and hand power tools with different sized dust ports. I have a ryobi battery rolling vacuum. No one seemed to make all the adapters I needed so I finally figured out to use the rubber pipe adapters that have metal bands you tighten around each end. Was able to order all the different sized ones I needed off Amazon and weren't expensive. They work great!
Thanks!
Hey Bro. Thanks for uploading your video. Your cool attitude and positivity shines through. Please continue making helpful videos! You gave me a whole new set of ideas.
All the best...
Thank you! More on the way
Man, this is a little weird. I literally was in my shop last night eyeballing my shop vac/cyclone setup pondering how to replace the hose from the vac to the cyclone with PVC pipe since the corrugated hose connecting them now is probably reducing the efficiency. I pulled up RUclips this morning and bam. This was the first recommended video. Big thumbs up for sharing.
Awesome! I'm glad it was helpful. I will be sharing some more shop vac dust collection tips soon.
Hmmmm... You might need more Ridgid shop vacuums, man.
Great out of the box thinking. With 3D printers everywhere any size adapter can be knocked out pretty quick. I recently made a 4" adapter to fit PVC, 3D printed.
Thanks!
That is a cool idea for a jig. I noticed that you have 5 or 6 Ridgid shop vacs, that I can see. Those start out at 80$ and go can double depending that depending on what vac you get. That's 500$ on the low end in shop vacs. You can buy a standalone dust system for that and not only save a lot of space but have a better system. I built a dust system with a shop vac (gift) and made it into a standup cart so I can move it around. It works great but couldn't imagine using that many vacs.
I built the jig. When I went to raise the blade for the first time to set the blade at the right height and the blade was really hard to raise. I took it apart looked at everything. It all seemed right. Tried it again and same thing. It was trying to raise the wood up as if it was binding and the blade would not raise. For sake of not having it all self destruct or sending out a projectile or ruin the saw or blade I had to abandon the project not ever knowing exactly why it failed. Took me 3 hours and it was a bust. Oh well.... Thanks for taking the time to post it.
I don't know either. If your blade is good it should cut into it with ease. The board should be clamped tight enough that it will not move. You'd have to have a very dull blade or have the blade on backwards to not get a cut or for it to push the board up. Probably a lot of burning and smoking as well. If you can't get the blade to move up and down easily on the saw in the first place you probably have a gob of dust binding up the works. If this is the case blow it out good and lube up the lift with some WD40 or 3 in one oil. It should cut into the board with similar ease as raising the bare blade.
@@SlowandExpensive Thanks for the quick response. We were definitely on the same brainwave as far as trouble shooting. The blade is nearly new and did all the cuts for the jig with no smoking, binding, or tear out. The saw is less than a year old and is clean and goes up and down with ease during the whole build process including while using my crosscut sled. The moment I try to raise it with the jig clamp down I go from silky smooth to having to use both hands to raise it just a 1/4" and then binds and lift up on the board even with 4 clamps where it seems something is going to break. The only thing that is not perfect is that the board does have a slight bow to it although it meets the fence straight. Still doesn't explain why the blade can't go up. I'm baffled. I ordered a new hose kit. Hopefully it come with a coupling that will work while I figure something else out since I'm sure that it's something wrong on my end and not a flaw in your design. Keep up the amazing job man. I am truly marveled by your ingenuity and craftsmanship both in your projects and in the filming. Nice bug btw. I had an old 62 with ragtop 1600 back in the day. Cheers
Great idea mate!! Always "Vork 'Schmarter', nodt Harder", Yah. It is my belief that a LOT of engineers get paid OVERTIME, just to make sure that Plumbing Stuff does NODT interchange! Gb
Thank you!
I know that I'm late to this, but, when I made mine I tilted the saw blade very slightly so they are small at the starting end. I found this made them slide in easily and then lock on the larger part of the taper. Thaks for the tip.
Yes, this is a great idea! Others pointed this out early on. It’s a one degree tilt on my saw.
what a great method for trimming the outside of the pipe! this gives me an idea for using the same concept with a router table when the inside diameter of a pipe needs to be increased. great video. thanks for sharing!
Excellent! Thanks for watching! :)
Perfect craftsmanship! I used to have a lot of troubles when trying to fit home depot pipes using cutting approaches, until I got a cheap 3D printer. It prints precisely accurate adapters with different angles, different sizes, and with flanges. It can also make flexible parts with elastic filaments. That said, it is so entertaining to watch what you are doing.
Thanks Shawn! The 3D printer sounds like a great method for sure :)
I have two workbenches in my basement that's divided into two sides with a center wall. One side for electronic and electrical things, and the other side for fabricating wood and metal things. I converted one window into a spray booth and also used to vent fumes from soldering. I mounted a vacuum cleaner motor (similar to a Shop Vac type) on the top of a cardboard 22 gallon can. I wired the motor to two two way switches, to turn the vacuum on/off from either side of the basement. I did use black plastic pipe and has three ports from the original vacuum and salvaged from a dead shop vac and used PVC glue to connect them to the pipes to the vacuum , two on one side of the basement and one on the other and the exhaust piped to vent out where the spray booth is. It did come in handy to collect saw dust from my radial arm saw, metal chips from my drill press, and dust from my bench grinder, and all around cleaning in the basement. I did make round wood plugs with a bolt handle to cap the ports not being used. Thanks for making this video. I may eventually run pipes over to the work benches and hang the flex pipes closer to where I can use them, instead of putting several together to get them to reach where needed.
Thanks! Sounds like you're getting some good use out of your setup! I find they work well and can be a very affordable solution for dust collection. This video is the first in a series of videos to share a bunch of helpful tips, ideas, and discoveries about them. Hopefully there will be even more good ideas and suggestions in the comments during the series.
At first I thought this was a lot of effort when you could have just used a heat gun. But the finished product was so satisfying I guess it was well worth the effort. 👍🏻
Thanks for wathcing!
You did not have to freely give of your time and experience to help us...for that, I thank you most sincerely.
Thank you! There will be more :)
Definitely a slick and ingenious jig. Could see other applications. Another way would be to drill out a die of the proper diameter, dip one end of the blank into boiling water, softening it enough to press into the die. Not saying it’s a better way, just an alternate method. As they say there’s more than one way to skin a cat, although it never ends well for the cat. Count me a subscriber.
Thanks Phil! Cat's beware :)
My first thought when I saw that jig was “what in the Izzy Swann” is this?! Haha nice job!! Great solution!!
Thank you!
I love your enthusiasm and camera work
Thank you!
Tony, this is a bright exmple of thinking outside the box. I'm totally impressed by the drill rotation improvement
Hey Alberto! Thank you
And not only this, but many other things can be easily done with a drill, thanks to its ability to turn slowly. I often use my hand drill to spin a small part while using a Dremel or a sander to perform some cut or sanding. The drill keeps the part centered and turns it to achieve an uniform material removal!
I've used a rubber coupling on many projects to attach a vacuum hose to abs pipe... I like the drill he is using near the end of the video.. otherwise I would not have cut them to final length until after the process, seems like it would be easiler to turn..
Thanks! I'm scoping the build for this tomorrow. Should let me make the missing links in my dust collection barrel.
Look out dirt! Here I come!
Nice! This is the first in the series. Short hose is next. Thanks for watching!
Okay, I'm impressed, but... as a newbie who is still terrified of a table saw, I realize projects like this are definitely for the more skilled among us! When I watch you guys who know what you're doing, it opens up different avenues of tool usage that I wouldn't have considered and helps me see the possibilities. Still not going to use a table saw, but.... LOL Thanks for sharing your skills!
Thanks for watching!
probably could use a band saw. about the safest power tool there is. might even be easier. I might try that actually.
I do not know what you specialise in, but after watching this video, I am subscribing!
Bloody beautiful!
Keep up your great stuff, you furry faced genius!
Thank you! :)
*Slow and Expensive* thank *you*
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That worked so well you made 10 adapters and only needed two.....😂 super safe way to make those👍
Hey daversj! Thanks man :)
It took me way longer than it should have to understand what you were doing. Great idea, I think it will help me.
Cool! There will be a few more helpful tips in this series. Thanks for watching!
I’m in the process of building my shop dust collection system myself. This will surely come in handy. Thanks so much! Great spirit!
Thanks for watching! More on the way :)
Brilliant idea!! I'm grateful you shared it. Some companies will lose some $ after this jig goes around the world.
Thanks Paul! I'm glad you enjoyed it
A very clever way of using a table saw as a lathe. Well Done!
Thank you!
Very clever, I like your shop ingenuity and kind enough to share. Great job!
Thank you! There will be more
Now if that aint one of the slickest shop hacks I've seen in quite a while. Outstanding! Subbed. Just because of this!
Awesome! Thank you :)
Great video! I am going to try that, but will place a slight angle on the blade to get a taper fit. Cheers.
Thank you! Tilting the blade 1 degree works great!
How simple is that! Brilliant! Thanks for showing this technique.
Thank you!
Great video of an excellent idea. I particularly appreciate your attention to detail. The PVC cut was a beautiful thing to see.
Thank you!
Really inventive solution Tony :) The camera work is superb and the lighting looks spot on to me now :) ॐ
Thanks so much Chris! I appreciate it. :)
What a genius, genius at work. some peoplw have all the brains...thx man for the upload of your fantastic idea
Thank you!
First and foremost, thank you for demonstrating your crafting with affordable tools. VERY useful idea and subscribed.
Thanks Michael!
Very Cleaver...Thinking outside the box...Well DONE
Thanks!
The best ideas are usually also the easiest. I subscribed to see what else you might offer.
Awesome!