Thanks for yet another really enjoyable video Bill. A reminder to anyone with £500 lined up for a DCC set up that there must be attics full of locos like this needing fixing. No good complaining that not enough youngsters are joining a hobby dominated by the RTR brigade.
I have a couple of the N2's. One is still in it's box, the other suffered from the same noise as yours. I replaced the motor and gears withe a 16mm round can Mashima motor and a 40:1 NWSL gearbox. I moved the motor up to the smoke box and fitted the new gearbox on the same axle, completely different axle gear, and used a tube coupling between motor and gearbox with a torque arm on the gearbox. This allowed me to fit a decent representation of a backhead, cab interior and most of all crew. I think it took me about 6mths on and off what with making chassis changes, axle bearings, new wheels, and making new weights. I think I'll find a simpler solution next time.
Lovely model a long way from home! The condensing pipes running from the cylinders to the tanks indicates that it was intended for use on the 'widened lines' between Moorgate and Kings Cross in London.
Wow. What a good job! I enjoy your skill and your presentation is one of the best on the Interweb! I like the N2 as well. Reminds me of the days at Kings Cross suburban services. Well done.
Historically, that model did start life as an Airfix/Mainline release. I've still got mine (Mainline box but stamped Airfix underneath) and it still runs well. No doubt Hornby have updated things but possibly not for the better! Keep the great videos coming!
Excellent idea to swap the worm gear. I do love the N2. I took a gamble and bought the Mainline version in LNER apple green, mostly because it is just so pretty. The tooling and detail looks almost identical to the Hornby but the Mainline version is very noisy and I hardly ever run it. I think the Hornby is definitely an improvement in that regard. Good to have though. 😊
I have to say I love your tenacity to find a solution to a problem and this video shows that aspect clearly. I also think you should accept all the donations and sell them on, after they had your magic touch, to offset costs. Great work.
Lovely model! I picked up this very one at a toy fair some years back and it's always been a consistent and smooth runner. Not bad for a slightly retooled Airfix model that's pushing 45 years old. I believe it was Airfix first, then Mainline bought the tooling but it was never actually released and went to Dapol when Mainline folded. Hornby aquired it in the 90s I think, and the newer motor they added was a big improvement when it comes to noise!
Enough oil and grease here to solve the oil crisis 😅 I agree with others, perhaps you should sell them on to keep your funding going. Hope your lovely lady wife is progressing well Happy New Year, and keep well.
It's absolutely insane that they would put THAT MUCH oil and grease in a model, just because brass on brass gearing is noisy. Glad to see you back Bill, hope the Mrs. is doing alright!
Great Job Dr Bill - well worth the Effort She’s a Beaut and no mistake. I’m gonna be investigating this Method and applying to some of my noisy ones. Great to see the innards of this N2 and I may be encouraged to get one as long as it’s not a split chassis. 👏🏻✨
Yeah good deduction . The N2 was originally Airfix . It was in the catalogue but I’ve a feeling it came out as a Mainline model , then onto Dapol and then to Hornby . It is a nice model . I have an LNER black one which is pretty smooth and silent .
I really like the chunky shape of the N2 and the curved cab. I've got two of these a br black one from the breakdown set and one in GNR livery both smooth runners though the black one has a bit of a swagger.
Nice video on a lovely loco ,I've got a old mainline one and a good runner still but a bit noisy, also iam over In the USA at present , and been watching some ' mile long ' goods trains with 2 to 4 locos up front , which makes a change from our trains in the uk.
Bill do you have more details on the solder sucker? I need to remove excess solder from some track dropper wires that are fowling the tops of the rails on a double slip of mine.
James if you don’t mind me jumping in - synthetic lubricants last a lot longer without breaking down and solidifying. Silicone grease is also safe for use with plastics.
@@dj_efk That is useful to know, thank you. That, I think, deals with synthetic vs. mineral oils/greases, but what are the relative merits of grease in general as against oil in general for model railway lubrication?
Grease will stay where it’s placed more readily than oil, for this reason it’s best to use grease for applications where you’re able to place it directly where you want it to stay, like gears. As you can’t do this for bearing surfaces then these have to be oiled instead.
A new lease of life for another classic loco! It looked great hauling those bloof & custards, too. I have one, and a couple of V1/3s, all with condensing gear. Not particularly aesthetically pleasing, IMO, but essential for a GER/LNER/BR(E) (not to mention GWR/Western) Region fan such as myself.
24:27 Interesting all the same to work on something you haven't worked on before, apart from ruclips.net/video/lHQkxc6p33Y/видео.html (though that was in its Dapol guise, as you mentioned it's the same model passed down through the manufacturers). By pure coincidence I watched your previous video last night as I was considering buying one of these, decided against it because I don't have the means to correct its issues like you have. Well done!
This model is as old as the hills! My friend had a Mainline one in LNER green looked good then but he has passed away 30 years ago. Its a terrible model, chunky, poor pick ups and definately NOT super detail wih that motor in the cab . It either needs to go in their railroad range of a complete re tool by Hornby or other manufacturer. I have the same one. Max patience there Bill well done kee them coming thanks
Thanks for yet another really enjoyable video Bill. A reminder to anyone with £500 lined up for a DCC set up that there must be attics full of locos like this needing fixing. No good complaining that not enough youngsters are joining a hobby dominated by the RTR brigade.
I have a couple of the N2's. One is still in it's box, the other suffered from the same noise as yours. I replaced the motor and gears withe a 16mm round can Mashima motor and a 40:1 NWSL gearbox. I moved the motor up to the smoke box and fitted the new gearbox on the same axle, completely different axle gear, and used a tube coupling between motor and gearbox with a torque arm on the gearbox. This allowed me to fit a decent representation of a backhead, cab interior and most of all crew. I think it took me about 6mths on and off what with making chassis changes, axle bearings, new wheels, and making new weights. I think I'll find a simpler solution next time.
Well I never did. That's the first time I've seen earwax used as a lubricant.🤣
Nice work Bill & another beautiful loco running well. 👏👍
Lovely model a long way from home! The condensing pipes running from the cylinders to the tanks indicates that it was intended for use on the 'widened lines' between Moorgate and Kings Cross in London.
Yes, I wondered about that. I think it looks better without them but most of the models seem to have the pipes.
For years I had a die cast three-rail N2 in LNER colours, made just before Nationalisation (also an LMS Duchess of Atholl).
Wow. What a good job! I enjoy your skill and your presentation is one of the best on the Interweb! I like the N2 as well. Reminds me of the days at Kings Cross suburban services. Well done.
I too remember them at KX. As to the grease, I should have taken them with me when I had my ears done at the clinic.
Another great repair. What's special is your determination to find a solution. The finished loco looked good running. Cheers, Jim L
Quality repair.... quality layout....
Nice little running sesh....
Thanks OO Bill.....🙏🙏👍👍✅✅🙂🙂🇳🇿🇳🇿
Historically, that model did start life as an Airfix/Mainline release. I've still got mine (Mainline box but stamped Airfix underneath) and it still runs well. No doubt Hornby have updated things but possibly not for the better! Keep the great videos coming!
Great work bill 👏 at least you will not be short of grease for a few years bill 👍 😉. Good to see you back my friend 👍
Can you go into more detail on fixing an oversize/ thread stripped hole with Super Glue and Baking Powder?
Nice job Bill, I thought it was a dud there for a while.nice little loco
Wonderfull to watch your skill on servicing the locomotive and repairing it back to running beautiful again , well done
What a superb restoration Bill it looks and runs like a new. Well done that man.
Excellent idea to swap the worm gear. I do love the N2. I took a gamble and bought the Mainline version in LNER apple green, mostly because it is just so pretty. The tooling and detail looks almost identical to the Hornby but the Mainline version is very noisy and I hardly ever run it. I think the Hornby is definitely an improvement in that regard. Good to have though. 😊
Hi Bill. I have one of these loco's. I will have to give it a run and see if it has the same problem. Cheers for the heads up. Regards.
I have to say I love your tenacity to find a solution to a problem and this video shows that aspect clearly. I also think you should accept all the donations and sell them on, after they had your magic touch, to offset costs. Great work.
Lovely model! I picked up this very one at a toy fair some years back and it's always been a consistent and smooth runner. Not bad for a slightly retooled Airfix model that's pushing 45 years old. I believe it was Airfix first, then Mainline bought the tooling but it was never actually released and went to Dapol when Mainline folded. Hornby aquired it in the 90s I think, and the newer motor they added was a big improvement when it comes to noise!
Enough oil and grease here to solve the oil crisis 😅 I agree with others, perhaps you should sell them on to keep your funding going.
Hope your lovely lady wife is progressing well
Happy New Year, and keep well.
It's absolutely insane that they would put THAT MUCH oil and grease in a model, just because brass on brass gearing is noisy. Glad to see you back Bill, hope the Mrs. is doing alright!
I was left wondering if the previous servicer worked for OPEC.
Great Job Dr Bill - well worth the Effort She’s a Beaut and no mistake. I’m gonna be investigating this Method and applying to some of my noisy ones. Great to see the innards of this N2 and I may be encouraged to get one as long as it’s not a split chassis. 👏🏻✨
Yeah good deduction . The N2 was originally Airfix . It was in the catalogue but I’ve a feeling it came out as a Mainline model , then onto Dapol and then to Hornby . It is a nice model . I have an LNER black one which is pretty smooth and silent .
Another good piece of detective work to get to the bottom of the problem. I like the N2 - not as good looking as some, but very purposeful. Cheers
I had two Mainline ones. They were terrible.
Hi bill
Great video i used have one off those models
Never ran well at all
Great repair Bill 👍
The donations sent to you are insanely good. Best man for the job I guess.
The `genious` at work again ,,,nice one bill ..👍👍
Very enjoyable video. Another successful fix. Thank you.
I really like the chunky shape of the N2 and the curved cab. I've got two of these a br black one from the breakdown set and one in GNR livery both smooth runners though the black one has a bit of a swagger.
hi Bill, great video, still got a wrenn N2 which is good, hornby one looks ok , hope your wife's arm is getting better,
Wow what a load of gunk to clean off another informative repair
I’m aware Dapol owned this tooling at one point, but I don’t know if they made it or inherited it from another manufacturer
Nice video on a lovely loco ,I've got a old mainline one and a good runner still but a bit noisy, also iam over In the USA at present , and been watching some ' mile long ' goods trains with 2 to 4 locos up front , which makes a change from our trains in the uk.
Bill do you have more details on the solder sucker? I need to remove excess solder from some track dropper wires that are fowling the tops of the rails on a double slip of mine.
Very lovely 👍
Yes the N2 was Airfix
Very nice fix.
Always wanted one of these 😭😂
There’s less grease on my ford ranger than that loco Bill 😂
Lovely Loco
Nice repair! Out of interest, what are the advantages of silicone grease over oil such as that sold by Peco or Dapol?
James if you don’t mind me jumping in - synthetic lubricants last a lot longer without breaking down and solidifying. Silicone grease is also safe for use with plastics.
@@dj_efk That is useful to know, thank you. That, I think, deals with synthetic vs. mineral oils/greases, but what are the relative merits of grease in general as against oil in general for model railway lubrication?
Grease will stay where it’s placed more readily than oil, for this reason it’s best to use grease for applications where you’re able to place it directly where you want it to stay, like gears. As you can’t do this for bearing surfaces then these have to be oiled instead.
Very useful - thank you!
cool vid
A new lease of life for another classic loco! It looked great hauling those bloof & custards, too.
I have one, and a couple of V1/3s, all with condensing gear. Not particularly aesthetically pleasing, IMO, but essential for a GER/LNER/BR(E) (not to mention GWR/Western) Region fan such as myself.
24:27 Interesting all the same to work on something you haven't worked on before, apart from ruclips.net/video/lHQkxc6p33Y/видео.html (though that was in its Dapol guise, as you mentioned it's the same model passed down through the manufacturers).
By pure coincidence I watched your previous video last night as I was considering buying one of these, decided against it because I don't have the means to correct its issues like you have. Well done!
This model is as old as the hills! My friend had a Mainline one in LNER green looked good then but he has passed away 30 years ago. Its a terrible model, chunky, poor pick ups and definately NOT super detail wih that motor in the cab . It either needs to go in their railroad range of a complete re tool by Hornby or other manufacturer. I have the same one. Max patience there Bill well done kee them coming thanks