I absolutely love that you test old gardening methods with current scientific methods! This is a progressive movement….it needs new data. Upwards and onwards!
Ok. That was officially my favorite video pod cast. 1) great practical content blah blah blah 2) intermittent kevin robot voice added nice texture and makes me suspicious of the matrix as did not affect Jacques for unknown reasons? 3) got to see real time chemical high from kevin - teeth went green and we suddenly got some real philosophical moments. 4) more if an editorial - not ice cream, unclear if technically classified as food/usable nutrients. More of a thrice inbred then cloned dirty cousin to food. I absolutely adore y’all thank you for working so hard to help me have a healthy hobby and stay engaged! -G
Thank you so much for your deep dive in the beet. I am a 70 yr old indoor (9th floor apt) gardener. I grow a tomato in a grow tent, lettuce, and other greens on shelving. These are kratky style hydroponic. I also have many large and medium houseplants, with a water one week and weak fertilizer with water the next. I have learned a lot from you. Some is knowledge I had from years of gardening. Thanks again! BTW my Grandma grew rhubarb and strawberries under her apple trees.
Okay, that made me smile and laugh out loud. Grown men sitting in the sun, having a friendly conversation about a common interest while eating nostalgic childhood treats from the ice cream truck imparted a communal moment of joy.
OMG, watching the 2 of you nerd out over gardens is how I think my brothers would look doing the same...right down to your style choices. 😂 Y'all are hilarious! But on a serious note, just like Jaques, my squash had done poorly this year. Zone 8a south of Atlanta, GA. This has been a year of highs and lows for us.
Jacques, for sideways tomatoes, you could try laying the plants down sideways a few days before you plant them. Whenever my tomato seedlings fall over for a day the tip always turns up. Might be a way to get the bend naturally before planting them. Thanks! 🍅🍅
Great episode, Guys. Jacques getting all caked up and Kev 1v1ing Leonardo while talking about big squashes and going deep made me wanna go out in the garden, in this brutal SoCal heat and do some serious cranking.(I swear I'm a mature adult. ) 😅😅😅
My garden I started from scratch there was nothing growing in the backyard when I bought this house except for a little orange tree and a little lime tree March /April 2023 14:49 and you're right I am on my second year and I'm amending the soil like crazy after I planted all of these trees and plants also I Did plant underneath my peach tree and the peach is doing amazing. First year I had peaches and now 10 to 11 feet tall and I bought it when it was 4 feet tall last April underneath I planted strawberries nasturtium hollyhock Fox glove & a few potted plants it's growing faster than my other trees!
I was glad to hear Jacques say that you need to initially dig in a new bed. I watched Charles Dowding for years, but I always have some doubts. My hard clay that was scraped clean of any nutrients and texture, when the house was built, just insures that whatever compost or potting soil that goes on top never, ever really gets worked down into the depths. I have so many tree roots that are on the surface. Also, your experiments with potting soil a few months back was really interesting. I have bought some real duds.
Trees close by might cause issues regardless. I do just add compost on top of heavy clay soil and add mulch on top when I make a new bed. Over the years the soil gets better and better.
My whole yard is clay and I've got a lot of trees throughout and surrounding. If I had to wait years to amend the soil I'd never get anything done and I'd lose focus so fast.some areas I've used thick mulch and top dressing with sandy loam/compost mix for ornamentals but where I wanted to grow vegetables I initially tilled twice to break up the massive clay lumps. I've converted to all raised beds for vegetables nowto make life easier. Charles has such a refined compost system that he's worked on for decades. It's fantastic and all but since my garden isn't my whole life and job (and just my lifestyle and retreat from my job) it's just not super realistic. Definitely love the validation that it doesn't have to be perfect, just aim for better.
A beet logo. so innovative :P My understanding of the tomato roots is that they are more for structural soundness than for nutrient uptake. Like corn's alien foot roots. I didn't trellis or stake anything this year. My pumpkin and tomato are hugging around my broccoli. I'm going to have a pumpkin right in the middle of that lmao. I also have a cucumber hugging around another set of tomatoes. I like the idea of okra above and things below. For my 2nd year I did a no-dig garden. Let cardboard and mulch sit for fall, summer, into spring. Threw triple mix on top. Then I just used all-purpose fertilizer and keep it mulched. Been cranking :P I have no issue with tilling initially or to restart. Alternative being to broad fork, but its a lot more work and i don't think its qualities have been studied compared to tilling. In a big area, tilling a few seasons is one of the best ways to snuff out the weed population. Though with some it makes it worse. I look forward to catching more of these vids.
Luv strawberry shortcake 2. ;) My raised beds r over hard clay soil n 1st few yrs of having filled them w peat n chkn manure, i got ave crop yield. But now over time w addition of gypsum, azomite, organic fertilizers, native worms n mulch, i get a more healthy plant n harvest (usually). This yr i have white moths n june bugs came ladt 2 wks of july n even though i put h2o out in pans in beds 4 birds they were pecking holes in green tomatoes so ive resorted to covering them w tuile n picking slicers as soon as they have any color. I only have tomatoes, strawberries, beans n dahlias n sunflowers this yr. Not sure if i could keep up w harvest, maint if my garden actually "cranked" like ur corn n jaques tomatoes.
Love these conversations between you guys, CRANKING! Watching Kevin destroy Leonardo was equal parts hilarious and disturbing. All podcasts need an ice cream truck break from now on
I'm an OG podcast listener but signed on just to tell you how much I LOLOLOLOLed through this one. And to leave one tip. I have a new no-dig garden that was languishing in its first year for a variety of reasons. I did what Jacques did and whacked in a bunch of soybean meal and micronutrients. The one other thing I did is that, for all new transplants, I dug holes into the compost and added a good potting mix. I've found that once transplants are big enough to go through the potting mix, they can handle everything else just fine. It seems to give them just enough buffer to get going. That's how I've gotten a "meh" garden into crank-mode in Year 1.
As for the tomato planting experiment, it shows again that long-accepted dogma that sounds great theoretically may not pan out in real practice. This does not just apply to garden stuff and it is why knowledge is always accumulating and isn't stagnant - new experiments, new observations, new information - that is what I actually love about science while others may find it frustrating that there is so much we don't know. I am amazed by how much we do know now compared to when we first climbed down out of the trees and began roaming the earth.
I almost gave up gardening. I've learned so much for all of you at Epic (even Eric ;) I know this is a business for you, but it feels like I'm learning from friends. I so appreciate all of you and the investment of time and energy you put into sharing gardening with all of us. I got my first cherry tomatoes to grow this year!! I've got dwarf lilacs in your 60 gal grow bags - my favorite flower. Just really thankful for all of you.
On your tomato depth growing experiment. It occurred to me that you may have irrigated not deeply enough. So, if you bury more deeply, you need to water more deeply too. Consider if your watering only impacted the top 3" of the soil, then how much of the roots were penetrated given each plant's root depth in the experiment.
The soil is important but I used shredded leaves, miracle grow garden soil, and black cow compost. Which the inputs were cheap but grew amazing plants.
Plant your toms with a trench on a single stem. Once they get to the top you can just remove the support strings, slide them down the pole, then re-support. Using twist ties works well for this.
Thanks for putting me on the ez Flo fertilizer injector. Never heard of such a thing until now. Can’t wait to try it since I prefer a liquid fert but get a bit lazy on keeping my fert consistent
Huh, I've been doing double leader tomatoes since I started (letting the first sucker grow), mostly because I was greedy and thought I could squeeze more tomatoes out of two and not take up much more space. It's like a jungle, and I get soooo many tomatoes, just buckets and buckets of them. Thanks for this, love these podcast chats you've started doing!
Thanks so much gentlemen, I am going to comment now about shade. My potatoes are currently shading a my few radish plants, which seems to be helping 🤔, this was your advice to us a few months back, thank you!😁
It sounds on my end like Kevin's mic was weird in this one -- like maybe his voice is getting picked up in both his mic and Jacques' mic, creating a like reverb effect. It's very Max Headroom.
@The Beet,hey Kevin- I think the term you used "classic" would not fit the Turtles,more fitting term is "retro" if you were being watched by kids of this 2024 generation?. The term retro applies to the cartoons& toys as well?.
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I love these real gardening conversations with real problems. No sugar coating what so ever.
the key to gardening with energy? crank
truly enjoy listening/watching Jacque and Kevin...and even better when the two are together...on video thank you for cranking on the podcasts...
I absolutely love that you test old gardening methods with current scientific methods! This is a progressive movement….it needs new data.
Upwards and onwards!
Appreciate the comradeship during this video 👍🏻, sharing information instead of “beating” your chest
Ok. That was officially my favorite video pod cast.
1) great practical content blah blah blah
2) intermittent kevin robot voice added nice texture and makes me suspicious of the matrix as did not affect Jacques for unknown reasons?
3) got to see real time chemical high from kevin - teeth went green and we suddenly got some real philosophical moments.
4) more if an editorial - not ice cream, unclear if technically classified as food/usable nutrients. More of a thrice inbred then cloned dirty cousin to food.
I absolutely adore y’all thank you for working so hard to help me have a healthy hobby and stay engaged!
-G
😂
I think jacques’ mic picked up kevin’s voice
Watching Kevin's teeth going green from the food colouring, gold... interesting conversation guys, cheers from South Australia.
I'm in sa too! What are you growing and sowing right now ?
Love a Great Garden Chat 💚I can talk about plants and gardening all day 🥰🪴Truly enjoy 🤣 the crank mode 😂 chat
Thank you so much for your deep dive in the beet. I am a 70 yr old indoor (9th floor apt) gardener. I grow a tomato in a grow tent, lettuce, and other greens on shelving. These are kratky style hydroponic. I also have many large and medium houseplants, with a water one week and weak fertilizer with water the next. I have learned a lot from you. Some is knowledge I had from years of gardening. Thanks again! BTW my Grandma grew rhubarb and strawberries under her apple trees.
The Ice Cream stop in the background with the beautiful flowers is such a vibe!
Okay, that made me smile and laugh out loud. Grown men sitting in the sun, having a friendly conversation about a common interest while eating nostalgic childhood treats from the ice cream truck imparted a communal moment of joy.
OMG, watching the 2 of you nerd out over gardens is how I think my brothers would look doing the same...right down to your style choices. 😂 Y'all are hilarious! But on a serious note, just like Jaques, my squash had done poorly this year. Zone 8a south of Atlanta, GA. This has been a year of highs and lows for us.
Jacques, for sideways tomatoes, you could try laying the plants down sideways a few days before you plant them. Whenever my tomato seedlings fall over for a day the tip always turns up. Might be a way to get the bend naturally before planting them. Thanks! 🍅🍅
Great episode, Guys. Jacques getting all caked up and Kev 1v1ing Leonardo while talking about big squashes and going deep made me wanna go out in the garden, in this brutal SoCal heat and do some serious cranking.(I swear I'm a mature adult. ) 😅😅😅
I was going to be so upset if you guys didn't get ice cream when I heard that song in the background.
This podcast was awesome!!! Loved the ice cream break!
My garden I started from scratch there was nothing growing in the backyard when I bought this house except for a little orange tree and a little lime tree March /April 2023 14:49 and you're right I am on my second year and I'm amending the soil like crazy after I planted all of these trees and plants also I Did plant underneath my peach tree and the peach is doing amazing. First year I had peaches and now 10 to 11 feet tall and I bought it when it was 4 feet tall last April underneath I planted strawberries nasturtium hollyhock Fox glove & a few potted plants it's growing faster than my other trees!
I was glad to hear Jacques say that you need to initially dig in a new bed. I watched Charles Dowding for years, but I always have some doubts. My hard clay that was scraped clean of any nutrients and texture, when the house was built, just insures that whatever compost or potting soil that goes on top never, ever really gets worked down into the depths. I have so many tree roots that are on the surface. Also, your experiments with potting soil a few months back was really interesting. I have bought some real duds.
Trees close by might cause issues regardless. I do just add compost on top of heavy clay soil and add mulch on top when I make a new bed. Over the years the soil gets better and better.
My whole yard is clay and I've got a lot of trees throughout and surrounding. If I had to wait years to amend the soil I'd never get anything done and I'd lose focus so fast.some areas I've used thick mulch and top dressing with sandy loam/compost mix for ornamentals but where I wanted to grow vegetables I initially tilled twice to break up the massive clay lumps. I've converted to all raised beds for vegetables nowto make life easier. Charles has such a refined compost system that he's worked on for decades. It's fantastic and all but since my garden isn't my whole life and job (and just my lifestyle and retreat from my job) it's just not super realistic. Definitely love the validation that it doesn't have to be perfect, just aim for better.
This is the bro chat we need 🙌🏽
Y'all'r so forking funny. I'm so glad you got a treat from the ice cream truck. 😂 🍦
A beet logo. so innovative :P
My understanding of the tomato roots is that they are more for structural soundness than for nutrient uptake. Like corn's alien foot roots.
I didn't trellis or stake anything this year. My pumpkin and tomato are hugging around my broccoli. I'm going to have a pumpkin right in the middle of that lmao. I also have a cucumber hugging around another set of tomatoes.
I like the idea of okra above and things below.
For my 2nd year I did a no-dig garden. Let cardboard and mulch sit for fall, summer, into spring. Threw triple mix on top. Then I just used all-purpose fertilizer and keep it mulched. Been cranking :P
I have no issue with tilling initially or to restart. Alternative being to broad fork, but its a lot more work and i don't think its qualities have been studied compared to tilling. In a big area, tilling a few seasons is one of the best ways to snuff out the weed population. Though with some it makes it worse.
I look forward to catching more of these vids.
Luv strawberry shortcake 2. ;) My raised beds r over hard clay soil n 1st few yrs of having filled them w peat n chkn manure, i got ave crop yield. But now over time w addition of gypsum, azomite, organic fertilizers, native worms n mulch, i get a more healthy plant n harvest (usually). This yr i have white moths n june bugs came ladt 2 wks of july n even though i put h2o out in pans in beds 4 birds they were pecking holes in green tomatoes so ive resorted to covering them w tuile n picking slicers as soon as they have any color. I only have tomatoes, strawberries, beans n dahlias n sunflowers this yr. Not sure if i could keep up w harvest, maint if my garden actually "cranked" like ur corn n jaques tomatoes.
Love these conversations between you guys, CRANKING! Watching Kevin destroy Leonardo was equal parts hilarious and disturbing. All podcasts need an ice cream truck break from now on
I'm an OG podcast listener but signed on just to tell you how much I LOLOLOLOLed through this one. And to leave one tip. I have a new no-dig garden that was languishing in its first year for a variety of reasons. I did what Jacques did and whacked in a bunch of soybean meal and micronutrients. The one other thing I did is that, for all new transplants, I dug holes into the compost and added a good potting mix. I've found that once transplants are big enough to go through the potting mix, they can handle everything else just fine. It seems to give them just enough buffer to get going. That's how I've gotten a "meh" garden into crank-mode in Year 1.
As for the tomato planting experiment, it shows again that long-accepted dogma that sounds great theoretically may not pan out in real practice. This does not just apply to garden stuff and it is why knowledge is always accumulating and isn't stagnant - new experiments, new observations, new information - that is what I actually love about science while others may find it frustrating that there is so much we don't know. I am amazed by how much we do know now compared to when we first climbed down out of the trees and began roaming the earth.
Have you guys ever considered doing a video on korean natural farming? 🤔
I almost gave up gardening. I've learned so much for all of you at Epic (even Eric ;) I know this is a business for you, but it feels like I'm learning from friends. I so appreciate all of you and the investment of time and energy you put into sharing gardening with all of us. I got my first cherry tomatoes to grow this year!! I've got dwarf lilacs in your 60 gal grow bags - my favorite flower. Just really thankful for all of you.
You can do it - just keep on growing!
I’d love more videos on pumpkins👀
On your tomato depth growing experiment. It occurred to me that you may have irrigated not deeply enough. So, if you bury more deeply, you need to water more deeply too. Consider if your watering only impacted the top 3" of the soil, then how much of the roots were penetrated given each plant's root depth in the experiment.
Love the Jacques Beet episodes!
The soil is important but I used shredded leaves, miracle grow garden soil, and black cow compost. Which the inputs were cheap but grew amazing plants.
Herbs grow nice around fruit trees
Plant your toms with a trench on a single stem. Once they get to the top you can just remove the support strings, slide them down the pole, then re-support. Using twist ties works well for this.
Thanks for putting me on the ez Flo fertilizer injector. Never heard of such a thing until now. Can’t wait to try it since I prefer a liquid fert but get a bit lazy on keeping my fert consistent
Love both of your videos! The video quality seems so much clearer in this video for some reason!
Great convo guys. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Huh, I've been doing double leader tomatoes since I started (letting the first sucker grow), mostly because I was greedy and thought I could squeeze more tomatoes out of two and not take up much more space. It's like a jungle, and I get soooo many tomatoes, just buckets and buckets of them. Thanks for this, love these podcast chats you've started doing!
Thanks so much gentlemen, I am going to comment now about shade. My potatoes are currently shading a my few radish plants, which seems to be helping 🤔, this was your advice to us a few months back, thank you!😁
Whatever happened to your tomato grafting experiments? Have you considered rooting your tomato suckers at this time of year to get another harvest?
Hmmm, these are in my 30 litre pots which Tony O'Neil highly recommended.
Sorry jacques, but your not the first to grow cucumber under the okra! I love that you are both exploring a diverse companion planting method.
crank it, mr. roboto
It sounds on my end like Kevin's mic was weird in this one -- like maybe his voice is getting picked up in both his mic and Jacques' mic, creating a like reverb effect. It's very Max Headroom.
We'll keep an eye on that in the future!
not the blue #1. For me it was the pink panther.
Interesting pod cast. Just don't agree with planting tomatoes at the base only.
@The Beet,hey Kevin- I think the term you used "classic" would not fit the Turtles,more fitting term is "retro" if you were being watched by kids of this 2024 generation?. The term retro applies to the cartoons& toys as well?.
60 fps
Slippery slope to 'garden' people😅
My corn also fruiting early, but I put the seed in timely, so annoying...
dude! creamsicle waayyy better
I love this video but keeps making me laugh with Kevin and his Turtle dyed mouth.
I don't think the term crank is going to stick you say it way too much it sounds lame