Imagine they did it on purpose maybe ? They might had recieved tons of money by who knows who, since the world governments saying we are overpopulated :o
Drunken kids playing with matches next to a gas pump wilde there is a earthquake going on. I cant belive that after what we have see we even need to diskuss this....
@Quarkine I they are the same both is creating viruses that are more infectious to humans and more deadly, if you turn a virus that doesn't effect humans into one that does, isn't that weaponizing the virus and thus a bioweapon?
@@cornebod although I do agree that it is weaponizing the virus in a way, I think that's not the intention of the research. What I mean by that is that it is weaponized, yes, but not in a way that it was intended to be some bio weapon or something like that. It's mentioned in the video that gain of function research is used to better understand the virus and to better prepare us in case the virus causes a pandemic. However, despite the good intention, I don't feel comfortable supporting this kind of thing because this doesn't seem safe. But idk I'm not a virologist so what do I know 🤷♀️
Wrong. You can't just ban stuff. It's like banning guns. Does it mean the police shouldn't have guns? We need to beat bad people. Like China. Doing this research.
If we are trying to play God, then it certainly should be banned. If the purpose is to save lives, then it should not be banned. We have also probably discovered ways of making vaccines better from this type of research too.
As a scientist myself and a medical doctor I see this kind of research dangerous not because it was the possibility to create cheap bio weapons but because there aren't any notable gains.
… dangerous not JUST because it has the potential to create cheap bio weapons. There are gains of infectivity, morbidity, and mortality, of course. But there are almost no benefits for better protection of humanity, yet a very high potential for causing mass casualties worldwide.
It sure lined the pockets of alot of people Big Phama Probably Fauci and others . Not to mention masks and gloves that came from China. Devastating the economy , livelihoods and wellbeing of lives around the globe.
@@r.i.pyoutube6881 Actually that may be exactly what was done with covid 19 . It appears to be in every city and in every city there are people who are failing the test.
@@r.i.pyoutube6881 In fact it works just perfectly, just here. I don't know if we would be involving communities, but it would be really nice to involve the same who write scenarios - what would happen if a bomb exploded, because, you know, the one thing that connects quite a lot topics is being deadly if used in a let's say not good way; and maybe we should the other guys who check if a thing is not instantly causing death, but death could be the indirect side effect of using such thing - like having your bank account hacked - the hacking itself is not what will kill you but starving due to the lack of money will!
Structural engineers do exactly that but with mock up buildings in labs. Just like this gain of function research. Because you are thick and ignorant doesn't mean you know what is good research.
Because the research was payed in part by west institutions. And those same institutions said it was a conspiracy theory. Very little independent journalism.
same people funding this research are the same ones funding big media corporations are the same ones funding big pharma corporations are the same ones funding political campaigns...
I remember when PBS SciShow did a video on RUclips on how to turn an animal virus into a human one in early 2020 and then took it down a few hours later. I wonder why. 🤔
The problem is the ones unleashing these bio-weapons on humanity do not look at the vast majority of humans as there fellow men. They think of us a mere cattle, and we all know what happens to Cattle.
all good, china is being boycotted, they’ll crumble for their societal vision flaws, another nation-state will rise and repeat… after this holocaust ends.
Look at all the viruses they have manipulated and making people get sick and vaccinated. If I did this type of harm to my kids I'd be in Prison for Life.
We are making bullets that penetrate bullet proof vests in order to then look into possible ways to make bullet proof vests that will stop these bullets.
@TheDoubleLibra how do you know that? Even if you had access to the lab's findings, which you probably don't because it's intellectual property, you wouldn't even know what to make of the information. Who are you to say that this research is pointless?
@@UserName-ii1ce lol, ok, so whatever good came out of gain of reasearch on coronaviruses wasn't used when literally a pandemic due to coronavirus is happening, the patent owner is waiting till everyone gets herd immunity and there will be no demand for his covid cure. Perfect 😂
@@spaduke nobody said anything about China 'doing it', it's beyond the point most people wouldn't care about the culprit country. If it's the case that it's because of a lab leak, it really doesn't matter if it happened in China it might as well have happened in the UK, the issue is the same - gain of function research and publication is crazy in a world where, for example, terrorism is a thing.
but the worst part is that Fauci wanted the GOF virus released into the general public for testing. What the!!! No in-lab testing, just throw it out into the population and test it live. Oh boy!
Biowarefare is the ideal weapon for war mongers. In a traditional war scenario there is a lot of destruction of Infrastructure but with biowarefare there is no destruction and the dead are buried by the survivors. Expect more bioweapons to be used, even against animals and plants. The world is going haywire.
@@JCO2002 You can imagine what kind of a man he is, just by the fact that he sees no conflict of interest in funding GoF research in WIV. I don't understand why would WHO send this guy to investigate what he is responsible for.
New virus? They are already here circulating all over the world. Those variants, as claimed, come from mutation. How do you know? Can you believe the media telling you Delta variants are mutation from Covid19?
You mean cure something that causes a patient to take many medications for the rest of their lives and in the process making big-pharma millions? Good luck with that.
Exactly so. There are a ton of viruses that need to be cured, like those that affect nerve roots…why are no one researching a cure for those….I guess big pharma would not have liked that..
Human creates a deadly virus that can destroy their own existence. Aliens be like : Wow , human are so smart but so dumb at the same time. Its amazing!
Well that doesnt make any sense. We're already seeing that GOF was the reason why the bat virus was suddenly able to cross over to humans. The fact that Fauci requested that this GOF bat virus be released into the community for live testing kinda says that it was intended as a biological weapon. Do you not understand that the whole POINT of giving a virus gain-of-function is for bio warefare? I thought that would have been obvious.
Yep! It was Fauci that opened up Pandoras box. And even he is scared at what he has done because he's been telling vaccinated people to wear masks. He knows this thing is now out of control. History will remember this pandemic as the Fauci Pandemic.
But one thing is sure , Nostradamus predicted corona as , Chiron ,Cheryn in many poems. And Baba Vanga foretold EUROPE to be empty due to a chemical war possibility is it's mRNA vaccine. Guys , plz meditate on this. And do the needful things right now ,otherwise it's too late. Prophecy can be changed upto 33.33% is in our hands and efforts.
It's gain-of-function over loss-of-function. A normal virus loses its function over time. A gain-of-function gives the virus greater function. Which is why COVID-19 isnt going to be stopped by the current vaccines. And notice how they're using vaccines that are based off the original variant and not the newer strains? They have NO intention of stopping this pandemic.
The scientists who engaged in the cover-up of the lab-leak hypothesis have so arrogantly damaged the credibility of science in general that they should be put in prison for the rest of their lives.
Agreed, 100%, especially the guy who organised the letter to Lancet, who was involved with funding to the Wuhan lab for GoF. Prison? It should be much worse than that.
There needs to be a 10 year or 20 year ban or suspension on gain-of-function research. There are 2 options per either a 10 year ban or a 20 year ban. It needs to be banned. We've had enough of this malarkey and it needs to be subject to ban. We can easily enough add a instrument & protocol to the BWTC for a ban. Opinions to the contrary are not recognized by the author herein.
conspiracy theorists asked how far is gain-of-function research connected to mega pharmaceutical companies, especially when you see how many M&As have taken place in the last decade for drug industry
I agree. But can you be more specific? Which group (or groups)? I am sure there are some groups understand the importance of living peacefully and in harmony with others. We need to identify this group (these groups) so that we can turn back the Doomsday Clock. We are currently 100 second from mid-night.
Way too late. Bolt, stable and wild palominos. Remember what the IRA told Thatcher after Brighton? We only need to get lucky once. You have to be lucky every time. Biggest failure - the initial risk assessment.
Not to be racist but in China protocols generally tend to be lax or messy. Just go and look at laowhy's video on construction in China. Everything is messy there or "hustle culture". Even their rocket was scheduled to fall down somewhere a few months ago and everyone was bracing themselves lol Don't get me wrong, the Chinese are some of the smartest and diligent people on earth. But they have a culture of carelessness when handling delicate things
@@___________2204 It's not racism. It's a cultural issue. You'd never see e.g. Americans of Chinese ancestry being so sloppy (far from it). The PRC encourages moving as quickly as possible, and safety/security are treated as elements that reduce that speed. China is a menace because it's like an eleven year old determined to drive its parents' car: it's hubristic, and it doesn't yet have the maturity to do so responsibly.
Both the PRC and USA violated the Biological Weapons & Toxins Convention and both should be condemned by the UN General Assembly as well as the Biological Weapons Convention organization. Washington and Beijing are both complicit in violating the Biological Weapons Convention. Opinions to the contrary are not recognized by the author herein.
As someone said in the video, if gain of functions was such benefitial then how come there is still no treatment for covid despite the fact they were working on coronaviruses for ages? Nothing of benefit has come of such research, and already it has caused enough chaos.
Gain of function research should be prohibited. " Not done to increase infectivity but targetted at humans". This is the stuff of nightmares and we are now living in a bad dream with no end in sight. It's scary to think that something so virulent was the creation of biotechnology engineers and researchers. What were they thinking? And what will they think of next? The lesson should have been learned from this experience that there should be limits placed on scientific research.
clearly you dont know anything about gain of function.. go read.. the reason we use gain of function and speed up evolution to make virusus more infectious is so we can creat vaccines and antibiotics.. think of it like this. if we can create and manipulate the most deadly version of said virus, we can create a vaccine and anti viral medication BEFORE it goes on mainstream so to speak.
@@Versac3e this is a very naive view typical of a scientist, who has no clue that there are very shady and powerful people who plan a very different use of such destructive technology...
@@Versac3e That's backwards science. You don't need to create the vaccines or antibiotics if you don't create the dangerous pathogens in the first place. Evolution is a natural process and interfering with it will only bring bad outcomes eventually, for everyone including yourselves. A lot of Frankensteins in those labs obviously.
The main issue, which is not mentioned at all in this video, is that this is clearly related to bio weapons. Now if - say - western countries stop this kind of research, there's no doubt that some other countries (do I need to mention which one in particular?) will keep researching on this and use it as threat. It's a complex subject.
A long time ago when I was a Masters's student, my project was to mix two viruses and make a new one and study the infectivity and other characters of the new virus. We were dealing with the loss of function research where you hope to generate a harmless virus. Recombinant viruses are a core and routine thing for thousands of virology labs around the world and it is an exciting prospect for virologists. The experiments are pretty easy for anyone with basic biology lab experience. Most of the time these studies are done in BSL 2 facilities. I have always wondered, what if we unleashed a monster virus through these studies.
Therein lies a problem the field of virology is ripe for discovery, this translates to doctorates for the picking, the odd Nobel Prize and of course patents. Those who manage to get key patents will become millionaires, even billionaires.
What intention for all this? So that you can get fame and admiration from your colleague? At what cost? The entire human population?…why are we as a scientist even allow it? We have the knowledge and the responsibility to stop this.
@@2003mandiman They also found bacteriums in 4000 meters deep saltmines, They rebuild several extinct virions. How about nuclear fusion? All that people find can attribute to the good of us and for the bad. We exterminated smallpox and polio.
@@NMW80 Seriously??? So Fauci and the CDC fund the scientists and all you care about is stopping the scientists?? What about stopping Fauci, the CDC and Big Pharma that are behind all this???
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Why have a gain of function research lab in the middle of a densely populated city? Antarctica should be the only place this rubbish is done, middle of nowhere, quarantine in and out. This was just lazy and dumb.
Even nuclear weapons are more humane compared to gain of functions, because atleast most of the deaths caused by them are instantaneous, unlike this biowarfare, price of which will only be paid by common people globally for generations.
Bio-Unsafety Level 3: Could the Next Lab Accident Result in a Pandemic? So-called gain-of-function pathogen research will likely receive closer scrutiny after three U.S. biolab incidents By Helen Branswell on July 14, 2014
Is it possible that there is no terminal point in the potential for new variants of the corona virus? Could this thing snowball into an extinction level event?
@@JCO2002 Bit strong. Spot on. In the UK, supermarkets now have unmasked sniffling staff, exercising their choice not to wear the protection that a 2 year old can tolerate. Democracy has weaknesses.
@@gardenjoy5223 Exactly!! It should be banned altogether and not done anywhere. The whole point of GoF research is to make a virus harmful to humans and then release it into the population for testing. Maky - They would never set up labs in the desert away from people. They need people to test the virus. I think thats kinda obvious though.
Banming research on supercharging viruses? That should be left to each individual nation or group of nations. It still won't stop certain governments and/or scientists from trying.
You can sell more vaccines if you make your own viruses. Plus you can customize your viruses to target populations you don't like, and have the vaccine already put aside for your own people.
The WHO has had a deplorable role in this health crisis. Why did they try to cover up chinese errors from the beggining? The US, China and other countries must be absolutely transparent and fully disclose these activities. Next pandemic could be the last for humankind.
@@tnaplastic2182 Do you have a link or source on your claim? I see that you claim the genetic sequence, the nucleotides, some how provide evidence it was made in a lab. Can you share the evidence with me?
@@nosuchthing8 I recommend looking at Li-Meng Yan's recent work! ;) She mentioned pretty much all the things from my list in it and my List is months old. Her newest work just weeks and in early view.
The final sentence, where the anchor makes a presumption that GoF research is being done in good faith for the public benefit, is certainly a dubious one.
@Quarkine I There's no justification whatsoever. It's the same logic that makes nukes deadlier, just to see what would happen. These processes can never be reversed. These mistakes can never be undone
Franchesca has a personal story that opened her eyes to this world of fakery and blind faith in science. She's still alive today due to her faith in God rather than "science". Pay attention
The most important thing is that we lost the chance to restrict spread to the whole world. If they didn't conceal the truth with WHO at the very first time, this kind of pandemic couldn't happen. They should have some responsible for this deadily pandemic.
the problem with 'community consultation' is that you dont exactly get better decision making. who makes the decisions on these matters is a very sophisticated question.
you definitely will get better decision making on this issue. 90% of humans definitely don't want biological weapons that could kill off 90% of humans...
If the US or any country creates superbugs, then other countries must be given the right to sue the US Government if the infection spreads or become a pandemic.
"We need an informed debate." "The more information people are given on gain-of-function research, the less acceptable they find it." Makes it sound like the priority is on getting the public to accept the risk of that kind of research, not to have an informed public.
Put in other words, gain of function means disabling limitations given by nature... compare Goethe "Der Zauberlehrling" (~the apprentice of magic) We do not even manage viruses in PC, we should stick to our boundaries.
Its not in our human nature to be restrained by boundaries. Getting to know things and trying to understand everything starts when youre born and only ends at the moment of death. Research will always be done if youre not being restrained by a power other than possible death from your experiments but by lets say the government. And if theres a use for it, be it for the military or for economical advantages, they wont stop anyone.
Interesting view but not quite correct. Gain Of Function vs. Loss Of Function, means that a harmless to human virus becomes harmful to humans. It's not so much about disabling or even removing limitations but enhancing the virus so that it can work in the human body. Think of it as a fish hook. If a fish hook becomes stretched and straightens out then it loses its function and can no longer hook into fish. This is Loss-of-Function. A normal fish hook will hook into fish. But a Gain-of-Function fish hook will have multiple hooks added to it so that it can hook into more things. The Flu is a loss of function virus. COVID-19 is the result of the bat corona virus being enhanced so that it became infections to humans. It was given gain-of-function. Which is why COVID is known as Gain-of-Function. The fact that it is mutating is also a result of gain-of-function.
This is compelling, but whatever the origins folks, it stands to reason to defend ourselves by measures like social distancing, masks en vaccination, once it is out.
@TheDoubleLibra Yes, I am aware of these things. My point was that we do whatever even is but slightly effective to get the virus down, because we have to, or suffer the consequences of it mutating constanly in the population. And facemasks are worn to protect the community. If two are naked and one starts to pee, the other may get wet. He can put on a pair of jeans, but then still gets wet. If however the one peeing wears jeans, no-one beside the pee-er gets wet.
This is insanity. Anyone with a realistic knowledge of human behaviour would understand that there will be a leak... by accident or not.
I think the people keen on this kind of research think they are too clever to make a mistake
Imagine they did it on purpose maybe ? They might had recieved tons of money by who knows who, since the world governments saying we are overpopulated :o
thanks China!!!! :(
@@cornpop2630 Not to mention how bad trump F'd up the response. approximately 400,000 people died because of that POS.
@@theobserver9131 Trump is the best ever
It’s like letting kids playing with matches next to a gas pump.
Drunken kids playing with matches next to a gas pump wilde there is a earthquake going on. I cant belive that after what we have see we even need to diskuss this....
Should supercharging viruses be banned? yes and should be considered a war crime treated just like nuclear weapons
Just it, we thought when germ warfare was banned world-wide, creating super pathogens & disease organisms stopped. It hasn't.
Meaning only a few select countries can kill others like atom bomb?
It wouldn't be a problem if we go vegan, there is 0 vegans dead from covid or other zoonotic disease
It’s worse than nuclear because it’s self replicating
Yes
WHEN YOU WANT TO GIVE BIOLOGICAL WEAPON RESEARCH A DIFFERENT
NAME.
In the good old days this kind of research would be called bioweapons research, funny what changing a name can do to peoples intelligence
@Quarkine I they are the same both is creating viruses that are more infectious to humans and more deadly, if you turn a virus that doesn't effect humans into one that does, isn't that weaponizing the virus and thus a bioweapon?
Didn't George Orwell call it "new speak", they do it a lot! I remember when people became consumers.
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@@cornebod although I do agree that it is weaponizing the virus in a way, I think that's not the intention of the research. What I mean by that is that it is weaponized, yes, but not in a way that it was intended to be some bio weapon or something like that. It's mentioned in the video that gain of function research is used to better understand the virus and to better prepare us in case the virus causes a pandemic. However, despite the good intention, I don't feel comfortable supporting this kind of thing because this doesn't seem safe. But idk I'm not a virologist so what do I know 🤷♀️
Bio weapon research, which is done everywhere is targetted. However I'm sure virus research could also be co-opted. The lines are blurred.
This research should have been banned years ago
Not like China would comply even if it was
Wrong. You can't just ban stuff. It's like banning guns. Does it mean the police shouldn't have guns?
We need to beat bad people. Like China. Doing this research.
It was that’s why they took it from USA to China where anything goes
Hm. I am torn. You would have to admit any counter measure would need research. Fauci in my opinion believed the same.
If we are trying to play God, then it certainly should be banned. If the purpose is to save lives, then it should not be banned. We have also probably discovered ways of making vaccines better from this type of research too.
As a scientist myself and a medical doctor I see this kind of research dangerous not because it was the possibility to create cheap bio weapons but because there aren't any notable gains.
… dangerous not JUST because it has the potential to create cheap bio weapons. There are gains of infectivity, morbidity, and mortality, of course. But there are almost no benefits for better protection of humanity, yet a very high potential for causing mass casualties worldwide.
Ah hem billions of gains for the pharmaceutical companies and investors
This was not a accidental lab leak. It was totally intentionally released.
It sure lined the pockets of alot of people Big Phama Probably Fauci and others . Not to mention masks and gloves that came from China.
Devastating the economy , livelihoods and wellbeing of lives around the globe.
Why... Why.... How about I test the structural integrity of buildings by causing a 10.0 earthquake in the middle of every city on earth? Brilliant.
That context doesn’t work here.
@@r.i.pyoutube6881 Actually that may be exactly what was done with covid 19 . It appears to be in every city and in every city there are people who are failing the test.
@@r.i.pyoutube6881 In fact it works just perfectly, just here.
I don't know if we would be involving communities, but it would be really nice to involve the same who write scenarios - what would happen if a bomb exploded, because, you know, the one thing that connects quite a lot topics is being deadly if used in a let's say not good way; and maybe we should the other guys who check if a thing is not instantly causing death, but death could be the indirect side effect of using such thing - like having your bank account hacked - the hacking itself is not what will kill you but starving due to the lack of money will!
In New Zealand, we do test upto 8.0 Seismic quake. But only in a computer simulation.
Structural engineers do exactly that but with mock up buildings in labs. Just like this gain of function research. Because you are thick and ignorant doesn't mean you know what is good research.
It was obvious from the start. The big question is why the worlds journalists were quick to call it a conspiracy theory and not actually investigate.
Because the research was payed in part by west institutions. And those same institutions said it was a conspiracy theory. Very little independent journalism.
MSM says what the CIA tells it to say.
There are no journalists they are government employees
same people funding this research are the same ones funding big media corporations are the same ones funding big pharma corporations are the same ones funding political campaigns...
Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you should!
This was a terrific opportunity to quote Jurassic Park.
This was stated nearly 2000 years ago by the Apostle Paul.
I think it's fair to say the origins of the virus are no longer a mystery.
It's not a mystery.. Its deliberate and cover with lies..in the expense of people lives.
I remember when PBS SciShow did a video on RUclips on how to turn an animal virus into a human one in early 2020 and then took it down a few hours later. I wonder why. 🤔
Exactly!
Nwo
The virus hasn’t been purified and isolated so how can one know the source
It's incredible how vicious man can be to his fellow man.
The problem is the ones unleashing these bio-weapons on humanity do not look at the vast majority of humans as there fellow men.
They think of us a mere cattle, and we all know what happens to Cattle.
Sad truth
@@fullboostturbo1 we are quite adept at finding new and exciting ways to kill one another
all good, china is being boycotted, they’ll crumble for their societal vision flaws, another nation-state will rise and repeat… after this holocaust ends.
makes my blood boil with this people who think they are heroes doing such things without remorse
Me too! I’m livid! Shame on them
Wait until God deals with the criminals.
Look at all the viruses they have manipulated and making people get sick and vaccinated. If I did this type of harm to my kids I'd be in Prison for Life.
We are making bullets that penetrate bullet proof vests in order to then look into possible ways to make bullet proof vests that will stop these bullets.
Before the enemy does
The money train has left the station
@TheDoubleLibra how do you know that? Even if you had access to the lab's findings, which you probably don't because it's intellectual property, you wouldn't even know what to make of the information. Who are you to say that this research is pointless?
@@UserName-ii1ce and how's that going? Afaik Chinese vaccines are the worst, and the tech behind them is ancient.
@@UserName-ii1ce lol, ok, so whatever good came out of gain of reasearch on coronaviruses wasn't used when literally a pandemic due to coronavirus is happening, the patent owner is waiting till everyone gets herd immunity and there will be no demand for his covid cure. Perfect 😂
Based on this video, gain of function research should absolutely be banned
Fort Detrick hired "animal keepers" and yet all images in this video imply that China did it.
Ohh no, China did not do it 😂🤣🤣
@@spaduke nobody said anything about China 'doing it', it's beyond the point most people wouldn't care about the culprit country. If it's the case that it's because of a lab leak, it really doesn't matter if it happened in China it might as well have happened in the UK, the issue is the same - gain of function research and publication is crazy in a world where, for example, terrorism is a thing.
remember killer bees?
we didn't learn that lesson
Most countries with advance laboratories did this
GOF is plain madness - it's like playing with matches inside of a gas tank
but the worst part is that Fauci wanted the GOF virus released into the general public for testing. What the!!!
No in-lab testing, just throw it out into the population and test it live. Oh boy!
@@adamgoodword7888 what japanese did to Chinese villages in Harbin during ww2
living in the forest like a hermit without any human contact seems to be a option, the more i watch news
im allready looking for a small plot of land in the farm side of my city
I agree.
Yes. Ban gain of function research. There are other avenues to the knowledge.
exactly, specially with AI techniques for simulations.
@Quarkine I AI and computer simulations
But thats not how you create biochemical weapons, and then release them.
The Chinese will keep doing it
No mention of Fort Detrick? 🧐
Just when you thought that there is nothing worse than nuclear weapons.
Just wait till the MECHADINOSUAR WARS ....OH, BOTHER, NEVERMIND....
Right
Nuclear weapons are the reason why we live today in the most peaceful era in history
@@SegaDream131 😳
Biowarefare is the ideal weapon for war mongers. In a traditional war scenario there is a lot of destruction of Infrastructure but with biowarefare there is no destruction and the dead are buried by the survivors. Expect more bioweapons to be used, even against animals and plants. The world is going haywire.
When scientists start sounding like lawyers, and go into full cya mode, we have a serious problem.
He didn't sound like a lawyer to me. He sounded like a second grader saying "No i'm not; YOU are"
@@haroldwestrich3312 😀😀
@@desmondpun1773 was our military "vaxxed" before the Wuhan Games?
The important question here is who funds this “research”. I wouldn’t doubt pharmaceutical companies are behind at least some of it.
@@desmondpun1773 I’m gonna try
First thing is to put Peter Daszak away from any investigation. That is one dishonest man.
I'm usually a pacifist, but he should made to suffer as much as the millions who died as a result of his involvement and cover-up.
@@JCO2002 You can imagine what kind of a man he is, just by the fact that he sees no conflict of interest in funding GoF research in WIV.
I don't understand why would WHO send this guy to investigate what he is responsible for.
we need death penalty for many things, including mad science
ive though on this a lot. no death penalty. but force them to work McD. whats scarier?
@@Pssst.ByTheWay I bet they'll spread rabies to customers, better get them to a mental asylum
@@pikachu5647 generate your own business.....
its like printing money
Tar and Feathering will become popular again
"Being better prepared for when a new virus hits." Did that include leaking one?
I’m pretty sure she said “pandemic”, not “virus”, and that would include any origin, wouldn’t it? Including asteroid or UFO, I’m sure.
@@g.r.2985 you didn’t get it..
New virus? They are already here circulating all over the world.
Those variants, as claimed, come from mutation. How do you know? Can you believe the media telling you Delta variants are mutation from Covid19?
@@g.r.2985 your comment but even more your “efficiency” playlist tells a lot about your intelligence level
@Monarch
Fort Detrick USA dude
As long as someone earns money. It is a 'Gain..'
U guy's should be busy searching for cancer ♋and HIV and AID medicines, but not to create one..
You mean cure something that causes a patient to take many medications for the rest of their lives and in the process making big-pharma millions? Good luck with that.
Exactly so. There are a ton of viruses that need to be cured, like those that affect nerve roots…why are no one researching a cure for those….I guess big pharma would not have liked that..
@@teesmith5702 exactly 💯..
speaking of HIV...
Send these scientists to work camps to do real work instead of playing with human existence
The only lesson to be learnt from this is that no lesson will be learnt.
Human creates a deadly virus that can destroy their own existence.
Aliens be like : Wow , human are so smart but so dumb at the same time. Its amazing!
Dude you've watch too many Arnold Schwarzenegger movies like I'LL BE BACK
@@lu544 you're absolutely 💯 right
Now our spices finally found a toy which is even more dangerous than playing with nukes 👏👏👏
I don't think the aliens would call humans smart honestly
You didn't know aliens released this virus?
Who is Bill Gates and illuminati.
You forgot to state that gain of function could be use as biological weapon apart from predicting pandemics.
Yes, the Dual Use research of Concern.
But it's DW, they won't talk openly about what's really happening. Don't bother China.
Well that doesnt make any sense.
We're already seeing that GOF was the reason why the bat virus was suddenly able to cross over to humans.
The fact that Fauci requested that this GOF bat virus be released into the community for live testing kinda says that it was intended as a biological weapon.
Do you not understand that the whole POINT of giving a virus gain-of-function is for bio warefare? I thought that would have been obvious.
Yes but how do you protect yourself
Pandora's box has been opened, and no one is capable of closing it.
Zombies are up next
@@darthraider2050 Climate lockdown is next.
Yep! It was Fauci that opened up Pandoras box. And even he is scared at what he has done because he's been telling vaccinated people to wear masks.
He knows this thing is now out of control.
History will remember this pandemic as the Fauci Pandemic.
YEP.
But one thing is sure , Nostradamus predicted corona as , Chiron ,Cheryn in many poems.
And Baba Vanga foretold EUROPE to be empty due to a chemical war possibility is it's mRNA vaccine.
Guys , plz meditate on this.
And do the needful things right now ,otherwise it's too late.
Prophecy can be changed upto 33.33% is in our hands and efforts.
Funny use of the word 'function', I guess gain-of-apocalyptic mutant viruses wasn't as catchy.
It's gain-of-function over loss-of-function.
A normal virus loses its function over time.
A gain-of-function gives the virus greater function. Which is why COVID-19 isnt going to be stopped by the current vaccines. And notice how they're using vaccines that are based off the original variant and not the newer strains? They have NO intention of stopping this pandemic.
The scientists who engaged in the cover-up of the lab-leak hypothesis have so arrogantly damaged the credibility of science in general that they should be put in prison for the rest of their lives.
Who ever thinks about making a thing like this should be locked up.
@@patrickbonney8082 see DARPA
@@DgurlSunshine thanks, be good xxx
Agreed, 100%, especially the guy who organised the letter to Lancet, who was involved with funding to the Wuhan lab for GoF. Prison? It should be much worse than that.
@@JCO2002 Fauci
Gain Of Function Research is just beauracratic jargon for BioWeapon R&D.
Hold china accountable , so as usa also for funding the research in wuhun lab
Couldnt agree more bud
@@Communistbritistan investigate fort detrick. Bioweapon lab.
I wonder why the gain of function funding ban was lifted in 2017
Because the Trump administration allowed it.
There needs to be a 10 year or 20 year ban or suspension on gain-of-function research. There are 2 options per either a 10 year ban or a 20 year ban. It needs to be banned. We've had enough of this malarkey and it needs to be subject to ban. We can easily enough add a instrument & protocol to the BWTC for a ban. Opinions to the contrary are not recognized by the author herein.
As if china will follow the ban
conspiracy theorists asked how far is gain-of-function research connected to mega pharmaceutical companies, especially when you see how many M&As have taken place in the last decade for drug industry
Creators of the weapon for their bosses and they seem amazingly happy and calm in the situation they have lead whole world into.
Humans are the greatest threat to humans, and everything else as well.
ok
Facts
I agree. But can you be more specific? Which group (or groups)? I am sure there are some groups understand the importance of living peacefully and in harmony with others. We need to identify this group (these groups) so that we can turn back the Doomsday Clock. We are currently 100 second from mid-night.
Humans are the greatest threat.
CCP
even if it was banned do you really think china would care, when have they ever followed rules.
Way too late. Bolt, stable and wild palominos. Remember what the IRA told Thatcher after Brighton? We only need to get lucky once. You have to be lucky every time. Biggest failure - the initial risk assessment.
Wow, the lab leak theory seems more credible every day
Why should it not be?
LEAK IN UK - WHO LEAKED THAT TOP SECRET INFORMATION?.
Are you really surprised? Everyone that could think for themselves already knew this.
Not to be racist but in China protocols generally tend to be lax or messy. Just go and look at laowhy's video on construction in China. Everything is messy there or "hustle culture". Even their rocket was scheduled to fall down somewhere a few months ago and everyone was bracing themselves lol
Don't get me wrong, the Chinese are some of the smartest and diligent people on earth. But they have a culture of carelessness when handling delicate things
@@___________2204 It's not racism. It's a cultural issue. You'd never see e.g. Americans of Chinese ancestry being so sloppy (far from it). The PRC encourages moving as quickly as possible, and safety/security are treated as elements that reduce that speed. China is a menace because it's like an eleven year old determined to drive its parents' car: it's hubristic, and it doesn't yet have the maturity to do so responsibly.
Splitting the atom was about science in the beginning too... Remember what happened there.
Can't they run computer models for "Gain of Function" reactions? The virologists are F'n with the world's civilizations!
Both the PRC and USA violated the Biological Weapons & Toxins Convention and both should be condemned by the UN General Assembly as well as the Biological Weapons Convention organization. Washington and Beijing are both complicit in violating the Biological Weapons Convention. Opinions to the contrary are not recognized by the author herein.
The Wuhan lab was also funded by the E.U.
@Usuario Um so there is an "alibi" about creating implant viruses containing cell strengtheners and age reversals. ( oddly may still need a vaccine)..
All of them UN , US, PRC, UK, EU, FRANCE, Canada and Australia they’re all in bed together…They’re all working for the corporations and bankers..,
The question is why countries r making biological weapons ,they all r responsible
Let's not distract from the fact that china and the USA. Specifically dr fauci as the one who provides grants for the research are responsible
As someone said in the video, if gain of functions was such benefitial then how come there is still no treatment for covid despite the fact they were working on coronaviruses for ages? Nothing of benefit has come of such research, and already it has caused enough chaos.
Gain of function research should be prohibited. " Not done to increase infectivity but targetted at humans". This is the stuff of nightmares and we are now living in a bad dream with no end in sight.
It's scary to think that something so virulent was the creation of biotechnology engineers and researchers.
What were they thinking?
And what will they think of next?
The lesson should have been learned from this experience that there should be limits placed on scientific research.
Rand Paul, the US Senator-Dr who exposed gain of function research, should be credited for exposing this
What is the overriding motive for researching into how to make a virus more aggressive? That's a really terrible idea.
Biological weapons 💣
clearly you dont know anything about gain of function.. go read.. the reason we use gain of function and speed up evolution to make virusus more infectious is so we can creat vaccines and antibiotics.. think of it like this. if we can create and manipulate the most deadly version of said virus, we can create a vaccine and anti viral medication BEFORE it goes on mainstream so to speak.
@@Versac3e this is a very naive view typical of a scientist, who has no clue that there are very shady and powerful people who plan a very different use of such destructive technology...
For warfare.
Look for ''Dual Use Research of Concern'' in Google.
@@Versac3e That's backwards science. You don't need to create the vaccines or antibiotics if you don't create the dangerous pathogens in the first place. Evolution is a natural process and interfering with it will only bring bad outcomes eventually, for everyone including yourselves. A lot of Frankensteins in those labs obviously.
The main issue, which is not mentioned at all in this video, is that this is clearly related to bio weapons. Now if - say - western countries stop this kind of research, there's no doubt that some other countries (do I need to mention which one in particular?) will keep researching on this and use it as threat. It's a complex subject.
What is the difference between developing a biological weapon and Gain-of-Function research ?
None
NOTHING...
The name
Not much unfortunately.
It's the same. GOF only serves the purpose of making a harmless virus harmful to humans.
Fauci achieved this with the bat corona virus.
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
-Jurassic Park
A long time ago when I was a Masters's student, my project was to mix two viruses and make a new one and study the infectivity and other characters of the new virus. We were dealing with the loss of function research where you hope to generate a harmless virus. Recombinant viruses are a core and routine thing for thousands of virology labs around the world and it is an exciting prospect for virologists. The experiments are pretty easy for anyone with basic biology lab experience. Most of the time these studies are done in BSL 2 facilities. I have always wondered, what if we unleashed a monster virus through these studies.
Therein lies a problem the field of virology is ripe for discovery, this translates to doctorates for the picking, the odd Nobel Prize and of course patents. Those who manage to get key patents will become millionaires, even billionaires.
Yes they should be "BANNED".
"Should it be banned?". I thought it was already? Humans suck, may we get EXACTLY what we deserve.
What intention for all this? So that you can get fame and admiration from your colleague? At what cost? The entire human population?…why are we as a scientist even allow it? We have the knowledge and the responsibility to stop this.
Their egos and desperation for praise from their scientific colleagues is INSATIABLE
what is the differences between gain of function and bio weapon, this should be clearly be banned.
This research should be outlawed
Australian scientists recently reanimated an ancient corona virus. Lab accidents happen. That’s just asking for trouble.
When? Could you link us the article?
Source...?
As far as I know it was not pathogenic to humans but to amoebas. They got it from permafrost that was ten thousand years frozen.
@@Peter_Scheen right now ... and that fact you can't see what they will make it capable of just as soon as they can, is a huge concern!
@@2003mandiman They also found bacteriums in 4000 meters deep saltmines, They rebuild several extinct virions. How about nuclear fusion?
All that people find can attribute to the good of us and for the bad. We exterminated smallpox and polio.
hilding a match to a gas pipe to look for leaks is such a good analogy!
The most important question is for what purpose it was created.
To kill some people and sell vaccines
To create the situation we are in now!
Gain of profit
Did we learn NOTHING from Stephen King's "The Stand"???!!! We were WARNED...
Someone should send out a few Hitman to finish off this so call scientists. PLEASE 🙏
I agree they are mass murderers and need to be stopped!!’
Steady on, there are incitement rules, folks.
@Abdul Yousif Hi Abdul. Agree with murderering scientists, or agree that incitement to murder is an offense, even within these informal chats?
@@NMW80 Seriously??? So Fauci and the CDC fund the scientists and all you care about is stopping the scientists??
What about stopping Fauci, the CDC and Big Pharma that are behind all this???
@@adamgoodword7888 what are you on about. It came from China stop trying to blame USA.
Definitely! Isnt that hard to think? You are
Messing with nature????
Does ANYONE here support this gain of function research? It sounds incredibly dangerous and might have started this pandemic.
When man (including the most well-intentioned scientists) toys with Mother Nature, we may sow the seeds of the next pandemic.
From a sick bed (not from Covid19) 'Make bugs weaker, not stronger, please'
We can't afford these kinds of so called accidents!If this DID come from a lab then it's downright criminal after 4 million people have already died!
All thanks to all our health practitioners that stood at forefront to sacrifice their time to fight against the pandemic and eternal rest to those that lost their lives as a result of this pandemic. Let's make adequate use of the resources available to us to regain all that we lost to the pandemic for a better future
That is true
It's not whether you're right or wrong that's important, but how much mon'ey you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong. I don't look to jump over seven-foot bars; I look around for one-foot bars that I can step over
Rich people plays the money game to win. Poor people plays the money to not lose. The goal of the truly rich people is to have massive wealth and the poor sees it as surplus opportunity for consumption instead of investing it. change your mindset and do what the rich does, which is investing, investing and investing.
CryptoCurrency might be a gamble but it's a right way to get extra cash.
Everyone knows crypto! currency is not a gamble, It's an invest'ment to compete with the rich and the government. Everyone can do it no restrictions and if you get it right, it can make you wealthy...
Wow! I heard of gain function for the past few months but just looked it up and it is scary and just leads to no good and should be outlawed.
Nice thought, but banning anything is quite impossible as it simply couldn't be enforced.
It can ,but no one will be willing to do the hard WORK.
Why have a gain of function research lab in the middle of a densely populated city? Antarctica should be the only place this rubbish is done, middle of nowhere, quarantine in and out.
This was just lazy and dumb.
Even nuclear weapons are more humane compared to gain of functions, because atleast most of the deaths caused by them are instantaneous, unlike this biowarfare, price of which will only be paid by common people globally for generations.
Bio-Unsafety Level 3: Could the Next Lab Accident Result in a Pandemic?
So-called gain-of-function pathogen research will likely receive closer scrutiny after three U.S. biolab incidents
By Helen Branswell on July 14, 2014
This wasn't leak but it was released
@Usuario Um it is up and running and it is killing people
Is it possible that there is no terminal point in the potential for new variants of the corona virus? Could this thing snowball into an extinction level event?
Not if we can convince the Luddites to get vaccinated. Otherwise, they're walking, sneezing, variant incubators.
@@JCO2002 Bit strong. Spot on. In the UK, supermarkets now have unmasked sniffling staff, exercising their choice not to wear the protection that a 2 year old can tolerate. Democracy has weaknesses.
Gain of function research must be done in an isolated region. We lemurs suggest the middle of the Sahara desert.
nope, i live here. or should have it done in your home?
Banned. Not to be done anywhere. It's absurd.
@@warakaqpachacuti7642Well said, they are people living around the Sahara desert 👏👏
It could be done in space… but criminals will find a way to screw everthing up… So NO!!! Ban the damn thing!
@@gardenjoy5223 Exactly!! It should be banned altogether and not done anywhere.
The whole point of GoF research is to make a virus harmful to humans and then release it into the population for testing.
Maky - They would never set up labs in the desert away from people. They need people to test the virus. I think thats kinda obvious though.
There are no accidents in these lab leaks
It’s a release not a leak
Only God can bring this deception to light and is coming soon
Revelation 18:23-24
Thank you! More of this needs to be shared to inform everyone!
Banming research on supercharging viruses? That should be left to each individual nation or group of nations. It still won't stop certain governments and/or scientists from trying.
Anyone making these viruses should be thrown in jail, for life
You can sell more vaccines if you make your own viruses. Plus you can customize your viruses to target populations you don't like, and have the vaccine already put aside for your own people.
Humans create viruses for "gain of function" arguing to the problem of being problematic:
"Naahh, it'll be fine!"
Humans create gain of function viruses, not viruses for gain of function.
The WHO has had a deplorable role in this health crisis. Why did they try to cover up chinese errors from the beggining? The US, China and other countries must be absolutely transparent and fully disclose these activities. Next pandemic could be the last for humankind.
What can be proven by the genetic sequence is, that it IS FROM A LAB!
No proof.
How do you come to that conclusion
@@nosuchthing8 Just read the comment above yours?!!
@@tnaplastic2182 Do you have a link or source on your claim? I see that you claim the genetic sequence, the nucleotides, some how provide evidence it was made in a lab.
Can you share the evidence with me?
@@nosuchthing8 I recommend looking at Li-Meng Yan's recent work! ;) She mentioned pretty much all the things from my list in it and my List is months old. Her newest work just weeks and in early view.
Australia was punished for asking about the origins of the pandemic.
GOF should be banned.
We have enough health problems for humanity to deal with.
The final sentence, where the anchor makes a presumption that GoF research is being done in good faith for the public benefit, is certainly a dubious one.
'Good faith' 🤔is one helluva broad church.. just saying :)
absolute rubbish statement, lol
They can justify it however they want to but nobody with the sense God gave geese thinks maximizing the lethality of pathogens is a good idea.
@Quarkine I There's no justification whatsoever. It's the same logic that makes nukes deadlier, just to see what would happen. These processes can never be reversed. These mistakes can never be undone
Franchesca has a personal story that opened her eyes to this world of fakery and blind faith in science. She's still alive today due to her faith in God rather than "science". Pay attention
The most important thing is that we lost the chance to restrict spread to the whole world.
If they didn't conceal the truth with WHO at the very first time, this kind of pandemic couldn't happen.
They should have some responsible for this deadily pandemic.
the problem with 'community consultation' is that you dont exactly get better decision making. who makes the decisions on these matters is a very sophisticated question.
Interesting point, well made.
you definitely will get better decision making on this issue. 90% of humans definitely don't want biological weapons that could kill off 90% of humans...
We allow a reasonable amount for human error in many industries. Virology gof research is not one that should allow for any.
If the US or any country creates superbugs, then other countries must be given the right to sue the US Government if the infection spreads or become a pandemic.
"We need an informed debate."
"The more information people are given on gain-of-function research, the less acceptable they find it."
Makes it sound like the priority is on getting the public to accept the risk of that kind of research, not to have an informed public.
Good point, well made.
Put in other words, gain of function means disabling limitations given by nature... compare Goethe "Der Zauberlehrling" (~the apprentice of magic)
We do not even manage viruses in PC, we should stick to our boundaries.
Its not in our human nature to be restrained by boundaries. Getting to know things and trying to understand everything starts when youre born and only ends at the moment of death. Research will always be done if youre not being restrained by a power other than possible death from your experiments but by lets say the government. And if theres a use for it, be it for the military or for economical advantages, they wont stop anyone.
Interesting view but not quite correct.
Gain Of Function vs. Loss Of Function, means that a harmless to human virus becomes harmful to humans.
It's not so much about disabling or even removing limitations but enhancing the virus so that it can work in the human body.
Think of it as a fish hook. If a fish hook becomes stretched and straightens out then it loses its function and can no longer hook into fish. This is Loss-of-Function.
A normal fish hook will hook into fish.
But a Gain-of-Function fish hook will have multiple hooks added to it so that it can hook into more things.
The Flu is a loss of function virus.
COVID-19 is the result of the bat corona virus being enhanced so that it became infections to humans. It was given gain-of-function. Which is why COVID is known as Gain-of-Function.
The fact that it is mutating is also a result of gain-of-function.
This is compelling, but whatever the origins folks, it stands to reason to defend ourselves by measures like social distancing, masks en vaccination, once it is out.
@TheDoubleLibra Yes, I am aware of these things. My point was that we do whatever even is but slightly effective to get the virus down, because we have to, or suffer the consequences of it mutating constanly in the population. And facemasks are worn to protect the community. If two are naked and one starts to pee, the other may get wet. He can put on a pair of jeans, but then still gets wet. If however the one peeing wears jeans, no-one beside the pee-er gets wet.
Who gets the feeling that the Zombie Apocalypse will begin due to Gain of Function Research?
Like looking for a gas leak with a match? More like looking for a gas leak with a match while beating the pipes with a hammer.