@@npai6612 I'm Nigerian and the US is a sad joke. It is true that the founding fathers weren't perfect but they had the right idea about trying their best to pay the foundations of a Republic. That's the joke and it's not funny. I'm Nigerian and not even up to 20% of thought was put into the founding of the country. Nigeria (the Philippines too) isn't the USA and doesn't have such strong institutions trying to defend its constitution (which is even badly written to begin with)
If life starts at conception, then any and all pregnancies qualify for life insurance policies and food stamps. Drain the systems with malicious compliance.
i'm South African and abortions are literally enshrined into our Constitution. we even have the Termination of Pregnancy Act to make double sure. the fact that the most developed country in the world is still battling to ensure safe and accessible abortions for everyone is horrifying.
@@NorthKoreanComedianyou don’t have to support trump to be against the murder of children. And I know “it’s not a child”. Anywhere else in the universe it would be considered life except in a mothers womb. Wild.
What is it we are protecting? Bacteria is "life" and I murder millions when I wash my hands. A cow or pig certainly feels more emotion than a zygote for 6 week old yet we torture and murder them at industrial scale. IVF discards unwanted embryos yet many on the right like Trump are backpedaling to support that@@Will34117
@@agent9alt81How is it different? Abortion restrictions can and do have effects for health care related to miscarriages. Also, the federal government can revoke the approval for the drug. There are many consequences.
@@agent9alt81 Yes but if the medication is being banned, what would I have done? Surgery? I really don’t know what would have happened. This isn’t a black and white area it’s a million shades of grey
Republicans dont wnt small government. They want a theocratic dictatorship where women are property, and the inquisition can burn you for heresy if you are nonchristian. They are straight up mental. Mental I tell you. From outside the USA looking at your conservatives is legit like looking at a parody. It is a joke.
You're right. We shouldn't monitor people on psychiatric medication during abortion, cause who wants to know the potential effects of anti-depressants on pregnancy :skull:
We see what happened with Romania, when there was a control on women to have kids and then there was an increase of orphaned kids as a result in the end during the 60s and 70s
@@8isbirth control was included under the original griswold ban. It’s not a ban on abortifacients, it’s a ban on medicine used to “further contraception” which that’s what birth control is. Using Griswold for enforcement is arguing for the banning of birth control. Sorry.
If they were to go through with this, we will see a massive surge in healthcare tourism to mexico and canada as well as a huge increase in unsafe home abortions.
how about 'if they were to go through with this, we will see a massive surge in marriage and happy, responsible relationships, and fornication will cease to be as rampant.'?
@@sloganreadet1151 i didn't mean it that way. allowing abortions everywhere has the same effect that adding more lanes in a congested highway has on the traffic. it is called induced demand. if women knew that abortion wasn't possible if they did the deed before marriage, they won't do the deed. they will wait till marriage, and not cheat on their husbands, thus eliminating the demand for abortions. they will live happily and be responsible for doing the deed. they'll realize that consent means *knowing* that there is a reproductive system involved and a chance of conception and *agreeing* to it.
Without abortions there are still many pregnancies that don’t come to term, that is why. I believe the solution is not abortion but to put in place government systems to support the mother. 30,000 dollar is absurd to pay for a safe birth. Paid maternity leave should be the legal standard. Person hood is not defined by a number or tax returns but by the potential something has to go through it’s natural processes and become an individual.
@@-mipmap-2091 not all abortions happen for the same reason. There are as many different reasons as there are abortions. Providing childcare support is the right thing to do for its own sake. It is NOT a substitute for a woman’s right to choose.
@nicholastyler3804 … because they’ve directly increased the amount of children who are going to be in those systems. Once you force a woman to give birth against her will, it’s on you to have good care for that child. We’re going to have a bunch of kids now with behavioral issues since they didn’t have their parents, especially if the orphanage system doesn’t improve.
no you are right, it shouldn’t have ever been. but now that it is it HAS to be. we have to educate everyone we possibly can about exactly how this would be an infringement of human rights.
It should not be. Can you imagine if we wanted a law to control a man's body!! But abortion was OK by the religious and the right until a politician Decided to use it to divide us and to get religious people, who mostly voted Democrat to vote for Republicans. It is way out of hand!
@@dsebbebridge2674 Except for the child that is born? Well, that's debatable. But it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss the child if we're imagining what would happen in the scenario in which the child is born. Assuming that most people alive today prefer being alive over being alive, I'd say there's something to gain for the child.
Newborns don't go into foster care nor is adoption it's primary purpose... There's about 2 million couples waiting for adoption. That means for every newborn put up for adoption there are anywhere from 30 to 40 families willing to adopt it. Those children aren't going into foster care. If welfare goes up so be it. That'll give the government more incentive to support those on welfare so they can eventually get off it. The only reason to support abortion is so you can selfishly have pleasure without the responsibility that comes with it
They need the working class too desperate trying to provide for kids we either didn't want or weren't ready for such that we never organize unions to fight for our fair share.
I think billionaires are indifferent to the abortion, it’s just the wacky religious nut minority that are pushing it. Of course there is some overlap there
@@lawrencetchen That's wrong, it's about the right to life. And unions are empirically bad: they're detrimental to long term wage growth and anyone who isn't a member.
They've been a group for decades and have proposed so many different plans, yet now that news told you they're linked to trump (somehow they were missing 4 years ago) they're bothering you? Riiiight.
this video lays out how a republican controlled congress could draft a bill that would ban abortion overriding the states. If he truly wanted states to decide he'd have no problem saying he'd veto that kind of bill.
@@tuckernaughton Why does it matter if he says he’s veto the bill or not? He has no control over it. And he has said repeatedly that he doesn’t agree with banning abortion, but it is up to the state to decide.
Good point. I don't think they're the same, stealing a package delivered by the USPS off a porch is a federal crime full stop, stealing a FedEx or UPS box off a porch is only a misdemeanor unless the value of the package exceeds a certain amount of money. I'm sure someone on the right would find a case of someone staling a UPS package and then take it to the SCOTUS to have them decide if Comstock applies.
As a foreigner, I just don’t understand the obsession of American people have on with pregnant women’body, should it be a choice made by the mother herself?
In europe each country voted their own way about abortion , if trump makes each state have its own independence in this aspect it would be like europe , only around 20% of USA population believes abortion should be illegal in all cases and the pro life stance is losing more and more supporters, it is a inevitably that abortion will be legal everywhere in usa given enough time
Problem is, once they’ve succeeded in America they’ll come after other countries around the world. They have the money and resources to interfere everywhere once their own base is in order. This is everyone’s problem. 😢
Britain has had legal abortion since the 1960s. Almost no one disagrees. The only part of The UK to still ban it until the 2000s was Northern Ireland. It's now legal there too. Women had to go to Ireland or Britain.
@@Waywind420 that's what makes it even more damning. The UK hasn't had a government interested in governing properly in at least a decade and yet somehow someone's doing worse off than us.
There is like 56 offices or so for SPUC around the UK alone. And that is without mentioning social media pages with millions of followers among many different pro-life charities and organisations. What are you talking about? :rofl:
I’m glad the video points out that one side is clearly the majority on this. You’re all entitled to your opinion, but you aren't entitled to impose your will on the majority.
I think it’s called Democracy. Learn it in school. Apparently it’s when the majority votes on a single party that then decide about stuff. Kind of Cool 👍🏻
@@lllluka This is saying abortion will always be difficult to manage and that some people will never see it as a right. It doesn't have a clear answer because people are different and believe in different things.
Good thing will live in a country where the majority doesn't rule and instead is left up to the people who live in a given area to decide what laws and values to uphold in their respective communities and what the Supreme Court did was just that. You may think the majority rules and pure democracy are a good thing, but what do you have to say when you're in the minority and the government is making decisions that directly effects you negatively?
@@christopherv431 You'd have a point except for the fact that allowing abortion doesn't force it on anyone who doesn't want one. If you disagree with abortion then simply don't get one. Whereas banning abortion forces everyone to adhere to that law, even if they disagree.
But isn't it the right that values freedom so much? Why not let a person choose what to do with their own body? The State decides what is best for me? Very controversial...
@@punkmunk8269 the embryo isn't viable before 24 weeks. And most abortions are done WAY WAY before that. Care about the kids? have free maternity care for mothers and free school meals for children instead of penalising disadvantaged mothers for making a difficult decision.
@@coffeemetro viability and moral worth are 2 different things. By this same "viability" argument, old people with dementia are not viable and thus by using this viability argument you have no problem with killing off old people with dementia that need machines and monitoring to survive. Logical fallacy.
Whelp America, it was nice knowing you. Sorry about the suffering the vast majority of people are going to be going through while they keep telling themselves that they're making America great again
George Carlin had this covered years ago, if Foetuses were people the census would count them. It wouldn't be "We have two children and one on the way", it would be "We have three children"
@@karpter9184 I'm a huge Carlin fan and yeah, it's pure language. George was fascinated by language, a LOT of his humor came from his interest in human language. While he was pro-choice and @diekrahe.'s quote comes from a conservative "logic" bashing bit, it ultimately add nothing, it's almost like an AKSHUALLY moment. Good luck to you from Brazil. The USA is sadly a joke.
@@connorhaley3190 To "become a person" is also just pointless semantics. Your comment is no different from who you replied to in that regard. What matters is the positive and negative feelings experienced by sentient creatures. Creatures with more developed sentience of course being able to experience greater positive as well as worse negative than creatures with less developed sentience. The idea is then to maximize the positive experiences, and minimize the negative experiences. "Becoming a person" is just a pointless word game of whatever people want to call a "person" or not. Words are just a medium of transferring information, it doesn't have the ability to determine whether any specific course of action is optimal or not.
The census also counts some illegal immigrants every time so I'm not sure you or Calin (who is dead so he can't) should put a lot of confidence in that. LOL
an unwanted child with two parents who doesnt love eachother and havent got the financial situation to care for you and youre just a burden. america is great again
They never think about how banning abortion will negatively affect women and result in less babies and mothers. Most people don't know they're pregnant until a few weeks in. AND many pregnancies have horrible complications that REQUIRE an abortion to save the life of the mother due to a dead fetus or one that wouldnt survive birth.. yknow, so they can try to have kids again later. Abortion isn't just for party animals it's a serious medical procedure for millions of women that need it to survive. Basically everyone getting an abortion late into pregnancy WANTS to have kids but can't due to complications.
removing a dead fetus is not an abortion. There's also no way to know for certain that someone wouldn't be able to survive childbirth until that person does or doesn't survive. Your positions are hollow and stale
@@bingus4901 but in states with complete abortion bans were already seeing women who miscarry being accused of intentionally trying to abort their fetus, or women with unviable pregnancies being denied healthcare
@@bingus4901that exception would be near worthless in practice. The bureaucracy involved in asking the local government, needing to provide unequivocal proof with a professional’s testimony, and getting the necessary appointment and equipment for the procedure will be too time-consuming, given that most complications happen near the end of pregnancy. And even if the request goes through it has a large chance of being denied because “it doesn’t threaten the health/life of the mother enough”
As the same of the interpretation of second amendment into a practice where everyone can carry very lethal weapon regardless their ability to responsibly handle any of such weapon. American sure like to use their constitution when it's convenient, then twisted and ignore it when it's not
Keep reading. You've missed the argument about personhood by like 2 lines. It talks about depriving a person's life.... Everything you need for personhood is there, it's just an interpretation issue. And when it comes to interpretation, you'll have to argue that the writers in 1868 intended for babies to be terminated in the womb whenever. Good luck with that one.
@@jasontaylor4802 Well, this was before the nonsense idea of fetal personhood came about, and historically abortion has been permitted in many cultures across the world throughout history.
You are bringing a fully theoretical argument that we may never have a definite answer to into real people’s lives, which you know nothing about! Every situation is different, but everyone has a reason which often can be summarized to either it is physically unsafe to have a child and would cause harm to the person, they aren’t even pregnant it’s just a medical procedure, or they know it would be a bad idea to have a tiny person that needs constant care around. and here's a hint: people that don’t want kids usually aren’t good at raising kids!
Oh so if embryos count as a person, is the government gonna give benefits such as; Child Tax Credit (CTC), Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), Dependent Care Credit, Head of Household Filing Status, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Medicaid, Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Maternal and Child Health Services (MCH), Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), Paid Family Leave (State-Specific), Child Care and Development Fund (CCDF), Head Start Program, 529 College Savings Plans, Pell Grants and Student Loans, Section 8 Housing Vouchers, Public Housing, Social Security Benefits for Children, Lifeline Program and the countless other support programs available to parents with baby’s carried to full term? Yeah didn’t think so
I also don't think young men would be ok with being forced to pay Child Support, for the extra 9 months starting from the moment of conception to the birth either. The Republicans have not thought this through to the end results.
@@nicholastyler3804 I was referring to the regular Child Support payments that could also be forced upon men from the moment of conception, AS WELL as the costs. Most men would realize how ridiculous that is. So as the OP made it obvious, the Republicans have not thought about all the consequences of them making a law that states the few cells that exist at the moment of conception, is a "Person".
you know, its been 4 years since biden and kamala could have brought back roe v wade......only reason they havent is so you are still scared of the boogy man.
This could have so many cascading consequences for women's healthcare, not even relating to abortion. I was prescribed misoprostol for the removal of my IUD because I was not a standard removal case. These drugs can have other purposes, and if the Comstock Act starts limiting the distribution of medical instruments that could inhibit doctor's ability to do a number of procedures that have nothing to do with abortion. Politicians have no right to legislate a doctor's ability to practice safe medical procedures and prescribing of drugs because they have no basis for understanding the consequences for the laws their enacting.
@@Chance_Rice Religion is all fantasy and none of you freaks have any business trying to push it onto anyone else in any context. Keep it quiet and to yourselves in your little buildings.
We want small government, except for the government putting 10-60% tax on all imports, and telling you to register your pregnancy, and telling doctors how to doctor. Other than that, small government.
in fact, it's quite the opposite. No one who is anti-abortion should self-proclaim as pro-life, as abortion is a policy to prevent women from dying rather than prevent fetuses (who are not people) from being born.
@@mellamanluiselio6294they are human beings that deserve the right to live like anyone else. It’s not her body either ,humans don’t have owners. It’s another human being.
I don't care if you feel sorta bad about a fetus being killed, it is literally shown around the world in developing countries tbat a lack of access to abortion care and birth control is a characteristic of a third world country, i do not want the U.S. of all places to resemble a third world country 😭🙏
Exactly! It’s unfortunate that Republicans are trying to make abortion illegal. There’s no point in having laws that work against self-interest. As someone who is conservative, I believe abortion is effective in reducing the population of those more likely to vote for liberal policies. The demographics that tend to support them are significantly more likely to get abortions, which has had an impact on various communities and continues to do so today. In fact, the Democrats might have been stronger if abortion had not been widely available, so I don’t fully understand their strong support for it. I hope the Republican Party eventually considers this perspective. The republicans may be unintentionally weakening themselves in the long term. By reducing the number of minorities we can stay a first world country.
@ No probably not but every little bit helps. Think about it if 1,000,000 black babies are aborted in midwestern states like Michigan it can help tilt the elections in our favor. Michigan voted for Trump by just 2% not by much. I love state funded abortion because they’re using my tax dollars to abort people groups I don’t like. I voted for it in my state for that very reason.
@@Karltheknight I mean, it literally is. You're talking about taking away countless people's rights. And for what? Religious beliefs? Tell me again how that separation of Church and State was supposed to go?
just a friendly reminder this whole video is a hypothetical. Trump could or could not do this. Keep up to date on the topic and you will find out but dont take this video as fact on whats going to happen.
@@Legend-28ththe fact that one very unpredictable person’s mind can swing this is chilling enough. Would you plan to have a child with your partner knowing that when the lady is pregnant, she could need the health care but it depends Donald Trump’s thoughts?
Do not worry. Trump does not support a national abortion ban. All he wanted to do has been done already to make the majority happy, which was bring the choice of abortion to the states.
@@kaelaian21 My grandma had several miscarriages and stillbirths trying to conceive, the laws in some states would have put her under a microscope and treat her like a criminal for trying to create her family
@@Karltheknight I've seen a lot of your comments on this video, and you are speaking facts to people who believe abortion is justifiable. Just wanted to say thanks for standing up for my and many others' beliefs.
Wrong! Keyboard warrior. Under 18 U.S.C. 1111, murder is defined as the “unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.” Whether murder will be filed as a federal crime always depends on where and who was killed. Further, murder is a federal crime if it violates federal law or happens while violating federal law.
@@TexasKen There are very specific circumstances under which murder is prosecuted as a federal crime, and the crime has to meet those criteria for the federal government to get involved. If a new mom murders her baby in the crib, she will not be charged with murder federally. This is effectively what pro-lifers see abortion as, if I understand them correctly. On further reflection, it would be more like hiring a doctor to murder her baby in the crib, and if that doctor works somewhere that receives federal funds, perhaps the argument could be made...
@@TexasKen You are thinking about killing your kid before you take a pill or have it ripped from your body. Every single person on the planet knows it's a child. You cannot hide from God's laws and claim you didn't know. You know what you do and what you advocate for.
As was said about the Comstock Act, it regulates INTERSTATE mailing of anything used to cause an abortion. So yeah, it is federal government territory.
Every politician says whatever they need to in order to get elected. The actions in office are almost always different or shy of what they said to get there.
@@NowAndToEternity Trump nor did the Republican part run on banning abortion in 2016. Roe didn't get overturned until later and it has become a central issue in both parties.
I mean in most cases the promises can't even be fulfilled even if they wanted to. I find it hilarious that as a country we accept the same shlock over and over but keep going along with it.
Being shy of what they said or changing their stance after more information is very different from outright lying about what you intend your policies to be for the sake of winning votes (Trump).
His followers will insist that he won't ban abortion, because... He said so. Even though he also took personal responsibility for overturning Roe v Wade 🙄.
Biden and Harris are in office now, they could fix it if they really want to. It’s funny y’all believe the democrats and jump on their bandwagon but do anything than call the republicans the great evils.
If this country was truly "pro-life," we would have Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, gun reform, universal child care, and a living wage. The conservative agenda isn't about "life." It's about control.
@@pimphatwaggoner1655 Cases cannot be elevated to SCOTUS immediately. Lower courts must adjudicate it first. If RBG was still alive or at least replaced by Pres. Biden, CJ Roberts opinion would be the majority opinion and Roe should have not been overturned albeit impaired. And yes, I'm way smarter than you.
Two things: First, he would do against the will of most people. So much for American "democracy", but I suppose it was never about freedom or justice. Second, the abortion ban has already killed women in states with abortion bans because doctors could not operate on women with pregnancies that were not viable and were dangerous to the health of the mother because the fetus was still "technically" alive. So... do you not care about women, am I not picking something up?
@@ppleberrynd You cannot be serious. Anyone who rallies around democracy instantly does not know what they are talking about. This country is not and has never been a democracy, the founders knew the problems with democracy, and that is why they did not design the country as such. Actually study democracy for once and then comment instead of showing your ignorance to the world. You need numbers for your second part of your claim. If there are no numbers to your assertion, then it really does not mean anything. Also, with the numbers, make sure it is official government agency numbers, not some interest/lobbying/thinktank group. Lastly, if the numbers are in the couple of thousands (which I assume it is probably not even that high), then this is a triage issue. There are way larger problems with the U.S. right now and if you cannot see it, then you are totally lost (judging from your initial comment about democracy, it appears to be so).
They do. Judges are not beholden to the president or legislature for anything. While a president does appoint federal judges, all confirmations must be approved by a majority of the Senate, and sometimes they are not. It's hard to see how judges could come into office in any other way except direct election, but that would make them yet another political branch.
We *do.* Judges are appointed by the President and confirmed by Congress. And unless they get impeached that's the only way any other branch is involved.
@@CT-pi2gl As we have seen during the Trump administration, all these components are soooooooo independent from each other, and there is absolutely nooooooooo way that one influences the other or forces it to act differently. Sure.
welll, the most developed and advanced country in the world, understands abortion is killing babys.....imagine your own logic being used against you to prove you wrong.
The U.S. under Roe v. Wade had one of the most extreme abortion laws of any nation in the world. Almost every European country restricts abortion past 12-13 weeks by comparison, whilst Roe had no restriction at all.
Oh yeah, the guy who owned the Miss Universe and Miss USA beauty pageants is gonna force all women to wear ankle length dresses and bonnets. Makes sense 😂
but the problem is that he doesn't want to??? and that trump isn't going to endorse, follow, or include project 2025 in any way if he's elected??? i thought this was common knowledge.
@@AImeria You conveniently left out the context behind those words, and your incomplete interpretation was already debunked back in 2016. From Snopes, a credible and politically neutral fact checking organization: What's True Donald Trump said that if abortion were not legal, women having them should be subject to "some form of punishment." What's False Trump posited women should be subject to punishment for obtaining abortions under current law.
Did you know one of the founders of NARAL and key players in getting abortion legalized in America admitted later on that they grossly inflated the numbers they published of back alley abortions?
If you’re like me and don’t like abortion, you need to understand that a universal ban isnt going to fix anything. We gotta work to remove the underlying issues that lead to needing an abortion, that way abortions don’t have to be banned, they’ll just not happen
"But opponents of abortion don't need Americans to agree with them, they just need the right president". They got it. I do feel sorry for American women.
"No, we will be discussing specifics of it, but generally speaking, no." Translation: I have no idea what the Comstock act is. I'll say something that sounds like I have two brain cells to rub together, then excuse myself.
2:47 Small correction: Project 2025 if a plan for the next Republican president, not Trump specifically. If Trump had lost the 2024 election, we could have expected an updated Project 2029.
this video lays out how a republican controlled congress could draft a bill that would ban abortion overriding the states. If he truly wanted states to decide he'd have no problem saying he'd veto that kind of bill.
@@tuckernaughtonhe would veto it cause he wants it by state. But all this is a hypothetical doomsday scenario for democrats to instill fear so we have another 4 yrs of failure. Even if Republicans got a majority of congress it’s highly unlikely they would propose a abortion ban as it would endanger any swing state seats.
I wonder how many people who voted for the president also voted down ballot in states like Missouri, Montana and Nevada? Trump beat Harris in Michigan by 70k+ votes but Mike Rogers still lost the senate race to democrat Elissa Slotkin by around 20k votes.
Trump never said he would ban abortion. He would leave it up to the States. The Federal Government is meant to only rule on things in the constitution, leaving everything to the states, i.e. closer to the people and therefore a better representation of different people in different areas with different opinions.
In most of Europe abortion is legal up to the 12th week. Being european, I don't mind if someone choses abortion by the 12th weeks. But I'd find it at least awkward that people could go beyond 18 weeks to chose abortin; unless there is a very good reason. Even in France, where they put abortion right in their Constitution, abortion is illegal after 12 weeks.
And yet the election is happening on razor thin margins and the only thing people talk about when asked is "the economy". Americans doesn’t seem to care about democratic backsliding, or school shootings, or LGBT+ rights, or health care, or Ukraine, and certainly not about women’s right and abortion. Clearly, this isn’t as important to folks in the US as one might think.
And that, my friend, is why the entire world is corrupt. It is based off distrust, it is why we need currency. If everyone could be trusted, money would be worthless. LOL and now I'm yapping to a person who thinks that women still don't have enough rights.
if all those states have decided to ban abortion why would trump need to implement a national abortion ban? also why should the decision be removed from the people living in said state and be elevated to a national "one size fits all" "solution"?
The Comstock Act prevents the US Postal Service from delivering abortion medication. Isn't the limitation of the Comstock Act to the Postal Service a problem for it? What about private couriers delivering medication instead? Maybe an enabling statute would be required. But that sounds like the kind of open-market competition that *actual* conservatives (who aren't interested in social control) should be on-board with.
I found a judicial opinion noting that an 1897 congressional act extends the Comstock Act to cover common carriers. (Alliance for Hippocratic Med. v. US FDA, 78 F4th 210, 267 (5th Cir 2023).) So, my position's changed... we need to make an *uncommon* carrier!
But pills can still be delivered across state lines. All 50 states I can order a pill right now in prohibited states and have it delivered to my house and end my kid.
@@tuckernaughton bc he cant now explain how the president can ban something that will be decided by each state individually, he cant just like the president legalized it nationally, the president cant ban it nationally too thats the point
@@antodiyo7523 a Republican controlled Congress could still draft a bill that would enforce a national ban on abortion so that even states like California aren't immune. This video alone talks of a few ways they could do that. If Trump was really against abortion or really thought it should be up to the states, than he'd commit to vetoing such a bill with precisely that reasoning but he can't even do that. So that logic of yours just doesn't hold up I'm afraid.
Oh man, why can't the US just go with the sensible solution and make abortions legal in the first trimester and after that only in exceptional situations.
because that position is not good enough anymore. That position is something you'd hear in 2010, and now, you must be for abortion at any time for any reason or you're literally the Austrian mustache man.
Vox, stop stirring the pot and creating chaos. Trump has said AGAIN AND AGAIN that political topics like abortion should be left up to the states to decide, it is NOT going to be up to him to deny.
Abortion should be banned. I am sorry but life does begin at conception biologically. You can't deny the status of a living thing just because you find it convenient to avoid the consequences of your own mistake. Keep your legs closed and keep your mouth shut.
Anyone who feels ambivalent about abortion. I get that. Just read the Handmaid's Tale. That book is nowadays again as accurate as it was in the 1980s. The book has become a warning once again for things that can very truely happen in the near future. It really shows why you should want abortion. Even when you're as pro-life as they come. The political consequences as shown in the Handmaid's Tale show why you should still want the right for abortion!
That's awfully rude of you, people have opinions now, it's why the word "controversial" exists. Saying that someone who has worked 10x harder than you to get into a position to become president should have never lived is so wrong.
Banning abortions or making it harder to get abortions is such a slap to the face of low income women. Like yes it's bad, but lets not act like abortion bans has equal impact. Even in states where it's completely ban, if you got money you can just hop on a plane to another state for a weekend and get the care. A poor women is stuck with a kid they didn't want and many times their state gets to stuck with that kid too.
Republican politicians will and have campaigned against abortion while flying women in their family to legal states for abortions. It's classism all the way down
@@Greenitthe Do you realize what classism even means, the women who get pregnant by their own will and happen to not be able to support a baby are not justified by their income.
"a kid they didn't want" last time I checked, most people plan to get pregnant when they can afford it and handle the responsibility of being a parent. They wanted that child, or they are unknowledgable.
Trump did what he said he would do during the 2016 debates with Hillary, let the states decide. 7 of 10 states did last Tuesday to allow abortion so seems like a fair policy by Trump to let the people decide.
If this country was truly "pro-life," we would have Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, gun reform, universal child care, and a living wage. The conservative agenda isn't about "life." It's about control.
“My body my choice” doesn’t that apply to a vulnerable baby with a heartbeat just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s now valuable. It’s sad that people think it’s ok.
@@clbbarle9903Call it ridiculous if you wish. It's grammatically correct wording. Fetuses are definitionally babies, objectively alive, and vulnerable because they're in the very beginning stages of life
@@AidanBuelingi think child support laws should increase to 60% wages if men want women to carry children thats okay but lets garnish more of their wages to support that child so if the women leaves she can have most of that guys money. Thats fair
Women get abortions for many other reasons other than babies. You're quite literally asking the government to take away another life saving surgical procedure
America is a joke with no punchline
In the Philippines people can't even get divorced
@@npai6612 I'm Nigerian and the US is a sad joke. It is true that the founding fathers weren't perfect but they had the right idea about trying their best to pay the foundations of a Republic. That's the joke and it's not funny. I'm Nigerian and not even up to 20% of thought was put into the founding of the country. Nigeria (the Philippines too) isn't the USA and doesn't have such strong institutions trying to defend its constitution (which is even badly written to begin with)
@npai6612 FREEEEEDOOOOMMM!!!!!. IIRC they don't even get to vote for the criminals who represent them in the Whitehouse
@@npai6612Dw, project 2025 will fix that too 😅
@@e-ben616 it's kind of funny seeing a Nigerian saying that the USA is sad 😂
If life starts at conception, then any and all pregnancies qualify for life insurance policies and food stamps. Drain the systems with malicious compliance.
Parents should be able to claim them on their tax returns too.
And they should definitely count during the census year too 😂
Oooh, interesting!
@@user-rs3lm1ci6nKatie Hobbes disagrees
@@user-rs3lm1ci6n Absolutely, the less tax, the better.
i'm South African and abortions are literally enshrined into our Constitution. we even have the Termination of Pregnancy Act to make double sure. the fact that the most developed country in the world is still battling to ensure safe and accessible abortions for everyone is horrifying.
Here before the Trump supporters invade the comments 😵💫
South African W.
@@NorthKoreanComedianyou don’t have to support trump to be against the murder of children. And I know “it’s not a child”. Anywhere else in the universe it would be considered life except in a mothers womb. Wild.
@@Will34117 Okay? 😵💫
What is it we are protecting? Bacteria is "life" and I murder millions when I wash my hands. A cow or pig certainly feels more emotion than a zygote for 6 week old yet we torture and murder them at industrial scale. IVF discards unwanted embryos yet many on the right like Trump are backpedaling to support that@@Will34117
I was prescribed this medication during my miscarriage. My body was retaining tissue. It was horribly painful and this medication really helped me
But that’s different. You had a miscarriage.
@@agent9alt81who cares?
@@agent9alt81How is it different? Abortion restrictions can and do have effects for health care related to miscarriages. Also, the federal government can revoke the approval for the drug. There are many consequences.
@@jae52247 I’m agreeing with you
@@agent9alt81 Yes but if the medication is being banned, what would I have done? Surgery? I really don’t know what would have happened. This isn’t a black and white area it’s a million shades of grey
Nothing screams small government quite like a national pregnancy register
Ironic, isn’t it?
Republicans dont wnt small government. They want a theocratic dictatorship where women are property, and the inquisition can burn you for heresy if you are nonchristian. They are straight up mental. Mental I tell you. From outside the USA looking at your conservatives is legit like looking at a parody. It is a joke.
You're right. We shouldn't monitor people on psychiatric medication during abortion, cause who wants to know the potential effects of anti-depressants on pregnancy :skull:
They want to turn America into China
The Republican Party is rotten with hypocrisy to its core
We see what happened with Romania, when there was a control on women to have kids and then there was an increase of orphaned kids as a result in the end during the 60s and 70s
This is about abortion, not birth control.
@@8issame effect.
@@narda1072 No, they're very different.
@@8is Abortion was illicit back then .
@@8isbirth control was included under the original griswold ban. It’s not a ban on abortifacients, it’s a ban on medicine used to “further contraception” which that’s what birth control is. Using Griswold for enforcement is arguing for the banning of birth control. Sorry.
If they were to go through with this, we will see a massive surge in healthcare tourism to mexico and canada as well as a huge increase in unsafe home abortions.
The data doesn't support this tired claim that people love to make.
Nicholas can I see this data and its source?
how about 'if they were to go through with this, we will see a massive surge in marriage and happy, responsible relationships, and fornication will cease to be as rampant.'?
@@GoodMorning-b2wI don’t think women having babies they never wanted is going to raise happiness.
@@sloganreadet1151 i didn't mean it that way. allowing abortions everywhere has the same effect that adding more lanes in a congested highway has on the traffic. it is called induced demand.
if women knew that abortion wasn't possible if they did the deed before marriage, they won't do the deed. they will wait till marriage, and not cheat on their husbands, thus eliminating the demand for abortions. they will live happily and be responsible for doing the deed. they'll realize that consent means *knowing* that there is a reproductive system involved and a chance of conception and *agreeing* to it.
Why aren’t fetuses given social security numbers? Why are they not counted as a “person”? Why can’t parents count them as a child on tax returns?
Because they don't have personhood yet. The goal is to change that.
Without abortions there are still many pregnancies that don’t come to term, that is why. I believe the solution is not abortion but to put in place government systems to support the mother. 30,000 dollar is absurd to pay for a safe birth. Paid maternity leave should be the legal standard. Person hood is not defined by a number or tax returns but by the potential something has to go through it’s natural processes and become an individual.
@@-mipmap-2091 not all abortions happen for the same reason. There are as many different reasons as there are abortions. Providing childcare support is the right thing to do for its own sake. It is NOT a substitute for a woman’s right to choose.
@@daveburke5177 Right to choose for murder
If you were to murder a pregnant woman, even without knowing she was pregnant, you would be charged with a double homicide.
Them wanting to make abortion illegal without establishing a good orphanage system first should be against the law.
That would cost government 💰! But even free lunches for schoolkids would bankrupt the economy & lead to Communism. So tough luck, orphans! */s*
Republican leadership does not want to make abortion illegal nationwide. They want to respect the states right to make that decision
And why should it be the government's responsibility to establish good orphanage systems?
@nicholastyler3804 … because they’ve directly increased the amount of children who are going to be in those systems. Once you force a woman to give birth against her will, it’s on you to have good care for that child.
We’re going to have a bunch of kids now with behavioral issues since they didn’t have their parents, especially if the orphanage system doesn’t improve.
@@nicholastyler3804 why should it be the governments responsibility to ban abortion?
I'll be getting my tubes tied at 30 with no kids
humanity thanks you. probably no need, you're already vaccinated
@@jodioster91 Vaccinations dont make you infertile.
Why?
@aleksandergowacki8637life is already hard without kids ESP in our decade
Yep got my vasectomy in my 20’s and have never looked back
we are nothing but cattle.
This shouldn’t be a subject in politics period! It’s a matter that should be restricted between the patient and medical provider.
no you are right, it shouldn’t have ever been. but now that it is it HAS to be. we have to educate everyone we possibly can about exactly how this would be an infringement of human rights.
It should not be. Can you imagine if we wanted a law to control a man's body!! But abortion was OK by the religious and the right until a politician Decided to use it to divide us and to get religious people, who mostly voted Democrat to vote for Republicans. It is way out of hand!
If you start requiring all pregnancies to come to term, welfare will skyrocket and the foster system will become overwhelmed with new children
Exactly, none will gain from this
The rich will remove welfare. Because it one more thing that their taxes are needed for. Less needs, less taxes, more money.
@@dsebbebridge2674
Except for the child that is born? Well, that's debatable. But it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss the child if we're imagining what would happen in the scenario in which the child is born. Assuming that most people alive today prefer being alive over being alive, I'd say there's something to gain for the child.
Newborns don't go into foster care nor is adoption it's primary purpose... There's about 2 million couples waiting for adoption. That means for every newborn put up for adoption there are anywhere from 30 to 40 families willing to adopt it. Those children aren't going into foster care. If welfare goes up so be it. That'll give the government more incentive to support those on welfare so they can eventually get off it. The only reason to support abortion is so you can selfishly have pleasure without the responsibility that comes with it
lol why would they be abandoned. Almost like their parents are selfish and irresponsible? 🤣
The CDC maintaining a list of every pregnancy is absolutely terrifying.
party of small government, what a joke
@@thunderb00m no mate, it's capitalism with united statesian "characteristics".
I have no doubt that they'll prosecute all the people that got abortions or had miscarriages if they manage to ban abortion.
Cornball welcome to reality
@@yuriyu123 you mean American? Lol.
It's not just trump....include Heritage Foundation & the wealthy billionaire elites.
They need the working class too desperate trying to provide for kids we either didn't want or weren't ready for such that we never organize unions to fight for our fair share.
I think billionaires are indifferent to the abortion, it’s just the wacky religious nut minority that are pushing it. Of course there is some overlap there
@@lawrencetchen That's wrong, it's about the right to life. And unions are empirically bad: they're detrimental to long term wage growth and anyone who isn't a member.
They've been a group for decades and have proposed so many different plans, yet now that news told you they're linked to trump (somehow they were missing 4 years ago) they're bothering you? Riiiight.
Yup
Funny because Trump has said repeatedly he has disagreed with banning abortion out right especially against Florida
this video lays out how a republican controlled congress could draft a bill that would ban abortion overriding the states. If he truly wanted states to decide he'd have no problem saying he'd veto that kind of bill.
@@tuckernaughton He said it's not going to come to him doing that because he wants to leave it up to the states to decide.
How obtuse can you get?
@@tuckernaughton Why does it matter if he says he’s veto the bill or not? He has no control over it. And he has said repeatedly that he doesn’t agree with banning abortion, but it is up to the state to decide.
@@Soh90 because him vetoing it would put up a significant hurdle.
@@tuckernaughton If Trump could veto it, then couldn't Biden have vetoed against the bans in some states?
Legally speaking, does "mail" include things like FedEx and UPS? They didn't exist when the Comstock Act was passed, after all.
True but the supreme court doesn't care about precedent anymore so.
The Supreme Court will decide for you.
Probably yes
Not sure FedEx and UPS can really exist without relying on USPS.
Good point. I don't think they're the same, stealing a package delivered by the USPS off a porch is a federal crime full stop, stealing a FedEx or UPS box off a porch is only a misdemeanor unless the value of the package exceeds a certain amount of money.
I'm sure someone on the right would find a case of someone staling a UPS package and then take it to the SCOTUS to have them decide if Comstock applies.
As a foreigner, I just don’t understand the obsession of American people have on with pregnant women’body, should it be a choice made by the mother herself?
A foreigner? It's not just right-wing Americans who want to ban abortion. It's illegal in Palestine, Nicaragua and Venezuela.
Religious country obsessed with controlling women’s body in general so………
What do you mean you don't understand? It's a broken, racist and misogynistic society over there. They want a Christofascist state
Except, women has same rules as men. No murder.
Besides, why do women even do things that get them pregnant? Why not idk, think twise.
It mainly stems from the evangelical Christians from the south. That have a disproportionate amount of sway in the society.
America is beyond a laughing stock. In most western countries this isn't really even a debate anymore.
Slavery back hundreds of years ago was allowed in most countries, so by your logic, just because everyone else is doing it, it makes it right?
@@tylerh1648 Forcing people to have children is the oppression genius.
@@Slim333yBoi No one is forcing people to have children GENIUS. They are making it illegal to murder unborn children. Genius...
In europe each country voted their own way about abortion , if trump makes each state have its own independence in this aspect it would be like europe , only around 20% of USA population believes abortion should be illegal in all cases and the pro life stance is losing more and more supporters, it is a inevitably that abortion will be legal everywhere in usa given enough time
Problem is, once they’ve succeeded in America they’ll come after other countries around the world. They have the money and resources to interfere everywhere once their own base is in order. This is everyone’s problem. 😢
Britain has had legal abortion since the 1960s. Almost no one disagrees. The only part of The UK to still ban it until the 2000s was Northern Ireland. It's now legal there too. Women had to go to Ireland or Britain.
women would rather travel to another country than close their legs
I wouldn't be heralding Britain as a beacon of how to govern a country.
Absolute shambles of a place.
@@Waywind420 that's what makes it even more damning. The UK hasn't had a government interested in governing properly in at least a decade and yet somehow someone's doing worse off than us.
There is like 56 offices or so for SPUC around the UK alone. And that is without mentioning social media pages with millions of followers among many different pro-life charities and organisations. What are you talking about? :rofl:
@@Waywind420 Wasn't because of people's right to choose when to carry a pregnancy to term.
I’m glad the video points out that one side is clearly the majority on this. You’re all entitled to your opinion, but you aren't entitled to impose your will on the majority.
I mean, they will if we put them in power.
I think it’s called Democracy. Learn it in school. Apparently it’s when the majority votes on a single party that then decide about stuff. Kind of Cool 👍🏻
@@lllluka This is saying abortion will always be difficult to manage and that some people will never see it as a right. It doesn't have a clear answer because people are different and believe in different things.
Good thing will live in a country where the majority doesn't rule and instead is left up to the people who live in a given area to decide what laws and values to uphold in their respective communities and what the Supreme Court did was just that. You may think the majority rules and pure democracy are a good thing, but what do you have to say when you're in the minority and the government is making decisions that directly effects you negatively?
@@christopherv431 You'd have a point except for the fact that allowing abortion doesn't force it on anyone who doesn't want one. If you disagree with abortion then simply don't get one. Whereas banning abortion forces everyone to adhere to that law, even if they disagree.
Thanks for showing the names of the authors of Project 2025. It’s enlightening to know that 90% of them are men
It tends to be that way for documents intended to implement or restore civilization. The Constitution and Bill of Rights were 100% written by men.
When you dont have DEI its normally 90% men for centuries when it comes to politics and those women that are the 10% used to be extremelly memorable
women are busy doing other things like spending their husbands money and sleeping around
Like the men who decided Roe v. Wade. Yuck.
@@MrRafagigapr Men do not deserve any power over abortion discussions.
The fetus overriting the pregnant woman's rights is the most ridiculous thing i've heard in my life.
It's not overriding them, They have.
Equal rights as human beings and women do not have special Murder privileges.
@@TheEverFreeKingfetus and mother have equal rights?
@@pulpficti Yes? They are both human beings.
@@bingus4901nah dawg, one’s a person; one’s a mass of cells
@@SeanMacadelic You know people are also a mass of cells right
But isn't it the right that values freedom so much? Why not let a person choose what to do with their own body? The State decides what is best for me? Very controversial...
The right is slightly more pro freedom then the left
But that doesn't make them pro freedom
Yes we do value freedom. Exactly why you shouldn't commit homicide against an unborn human. Abortion should be illegal. No exceptions
@@punkmunk8269 the embryo isn't viable before 24 weeks. And most abortions are done WAY WAY before that. Care about the kids? have free maternity care for mothers and free school meals for children instead of penalising disadvantaged mothers for making a difficult decision.
@@coffeemetro viability and moral worth are 2 different things. By this same "viability" argument, old people with dementia are not viable and thus by using this viability argument you have no problem with killing off old people with dementia that need machines and monitoring to survive. Logical fallacy.
Just because it isn't able to survive on its own doesn't mean it isn't human. Foolish argument
Whelp America, it was nice knowing you. Sorry about the suffering the vast majority of people are going to be going through while they keep telling themselves that they're making America great again
1:47 that is the answer of a man who has no idea what mifepristone is
He spoke about mifepristone just a day before that interview took place.
@@mistervallus185 So? It's Trump. I wouldn't put it past him. Dude's brain is a swiss cheese
@@mistervallus185Just because he read something about it off a card once doesn't mean he knows what it is
@@coreblaster6809Trump can't read
Lol...yes it was
George Carlin had this covered years ago, if Foetuses were people the census would count them.
It wouldn't be "We have two children and one on the way", it would be "We have three children"
I think you are missing the point. What does one on the way have to do with when a soon to be person becomes an actual person.
This is just semantics that adds nothing to the discussion of reproductive rights
@@karpter9184 I'm a huge Carlin fan and yeah, it's pure language. George was fascinated by language, a LOT of his humor came from his interest in human language.
While he was pro-choice and @diekrahe.'s quote comes from a conservative "logic" bashing bit, it ultimately add nothing, it's almost like an AKSHUALLY moment.
Good luck to you from Brazil. The USA is sadly a joke.
@@connorhaley3190 To "become a person" is also just pointless semantics. Your comment is no different from who you replied to in that regard.
What matters is the positive and negative feelings experienced by sentient creatures. Creatures with more developed sentience of course being able to experience greater positive as well as worse negative than creatures with less developed sentience. The idea is then to maximize the positive experiences, and minimize the negative experiences.
"Becoming a person" is just a pointless word game of whatever people want to call a "person" or not. Words are just a medium of transferring information, it doesn't have the ability to determine whether any specific course of action is optimal or not.
The census also counts some illegal immigrants every time so I'm not sure you or Calin (who is dead so he can't) should put a lot of confidence in that. LOL
an unwanted child with two parents who doesnt love eachother and havent got the financial situation to care for you and youre just a burden. america is great again
They never think about how banning abortion will negatively affect women and result in less babies and mothers. Most people don't know they're pregnant until a few weeks in. AND many pregnancies have horrible complications that REQUIRE an abortion to save the life of the mother due to a dead fetus or one that wouldnt survive birth.. yknow, so they can try to have kids again later. Abortion isn't just for party animals it's a serious medical procedure for millions of women that need it to survive. Basically everyone getting an abortion late into pregnancy WANTS to have kids but can't due to complications.
removing a dead fetus is not an abortion. There's also no way to know for certain that someone wouldn't be able to survive childbirth until that person does or doesn't survive. Your positions are hollow and stale
Any abortion ban would have an exception for life of the mother.
@@bingus4901 but in states with complete abortion bans were already seeing women who miscarry being accused of intentionally trying to abort their fetus, or women with unviable pregnancies being denied healthcare
@@bingus4901that exception would be near worthless in practice. The bureaucracy involved in asking the local government, needing to provide unequivocal proof with a professional’s testimony, and getting the necessary appointment and equipment for the procedure will be too time-consuming, given that most complications happen near the end of pregnancy. And even if the request goes through it has a large chance of being denied because “it doesn’t threaten the health/life of the mother enough”
@@bingus4901nope, not necessarily. You assume that.
The Fourteenth Amendment begins with "All persons BORN..."
Magical thinking is required to protect fetal personhood.
As the same of the interpretation of second amendment into a practice where everyone can carry very lethal weapon regardless their ability to responsibly handle any of such weapon. American sure like to use their constitution when it's convenient, then twisted and ignore it when it's not
Keep reading. You've missed the argument about personhood by like 2 lines. It talks about depriving a person's life.... Everything you need for personhood is there, it's just an interpretation issue. And when it comes to interpretation, you'll have to argue that the writers in 1868 intended for babies to be terminated in the womb whenever. Good luck with that one.
So your definition of life is based off of a law? So with that logic, you don’t have any problem killing a baby in the third trimester?
Abortion bans reduce a womans value to less than that of a fertilized egg and gives it more rights than your husband or other children have.
@@jasontaylor4802 Well, this was before the nonsense idea of fetal personhood came about, and historically abortion has been permitted in many cultures across the world throughout history.
Abortion.. controversial or not.. IS healthcare. And non of your/my business. A healthcare decision had between a woman and her doctor. Period.
The issue is if that is an innocent human life, should it be allowed?
You are bringing a fully theoretical argument that we may never have a definite answer to into real people’s lives, which you know nothing about! Every situation is different, but everyone has a reason which often can be summarized to either it is physically unsafe to have a child and would cause harm to the person, they aren’t even pregnant it’s just a medical procedure, or they know it would be a bad idea to have a tiny person that needs constant care around. and here's a hint: people that don’t want kids usually aren’t good at raising kids!
Why would authorities care about abortion at all? Never hear in a different country.
Poland
Germany, Ireland
@@sandeliaisaksson5027 And how does that work?
south east asia
Its a hot topic to use to get votes, and all civilized nations suffer emensly from lack of new born/young worker
the monitoring pregnancy clause is the most unhinged thing i've heard in a while though that's so messed up.
That monitoring might result in women with erratic periods or early menopause being prosecuted for having an abortion.
Well, the left does invent some unhinged things.
@@tracesprite6078 i guarentee this. The people who want to ban abortin have no idea of how the human body works
The government controlling women's bodies is worse.
Honestly, that monitoring is for a certain type of race, that &hit will backfire on them so hard...
Oh so if embryos count as a person, is the government gonna give benefits such as; Child Tax Credit (CTC), Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), Dependent Care Credit, Head of Household Filing Status, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Medicaid, Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Maternal and Child Health Services (MCH), Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), Paid Family Leave (State-Specific), Child Care and Development Fund (CCDF), Head Start Program, 529 College Savings Plans, Pell Grants and Student Loans, Section 8 Housing Vouchers, Public Housing, Social Security Benefits for Children, Lifeline Program and the countless other support programs available to parents with baby’s carried to full term?
Yeah didn’t think so
I also don't think young men would be ok with being forced to pay Child Support, for the extra 9 months starting from the moment of conception to the birth either.
The Republicans have not thought this through to the end results.
@@kyliepechler Do your research. Those costs can be made liable to the father as well. Nice try though
@@nicholastyler3804 I was referring to the regular Child Support payments that could also be forced upon men from the moment of conception, AS WELL as the costs.
Most men would realize how ridiculous that is.
So as the OP made it obvious, the Republicans have not thought about all the consequences of them making a law that states the few cells that exist at the moment of conception, is a "Person".
I think so i don't get why you think that anti-abortionists hate women instead of detesting the act of abortion itself
Your comment is complete nonsense.
States rights when they are on the back foot, federal bans when they have power.
Spot on.
ITS ACTUAL MURDER, THE GOVERNMENT CAN BAN MURDER 😭
you know, its been 4 years since biden and kamala could have brought back roe v wade......only reason they havent is so you are still scared of the boogy man.
States rights to keep slavery. Federal law to return escaped slaves
Trump has explicitly said he will not do a national ban.
This could have so many cascading consequences for women's healthcare, not even relating to abortion. I was prescribed misoprostol for the removal of my IUD because I was not a standard removal case. These drugs can have other purposes, and if the Comstock Act starts limiting the distribution of medical instruments that could inhibit doctor's ability to do a number of procedures that have nothing to do with abortion. Politicians have no right to legislate a doctor's ability to practice safe medical procedures and prescribing of drugs because they have no basis for understanding the consequences for the laws their enacting.
So use a private mail provider...? Congrats, you have successfully beaten the supreme court decision :eye_roll:
@@jasontaylor4802 No, those were determined in a subsequent ruling to be "mail" for the purposes of the Comstock Act.
@@mkjirak Comstock doesn't apply to private postage. At least, no precedence states that it does.
@@jasontaylor4802 Why does your kind get off to making others (women specifically) as miserable and exhausted as possible?
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316 What do you mean "your kind"? Like humans? I don't think we do tbh.
Church slithering into politics again
Y'all people don't know what a church is, you have the evangelical definition so stay quiet
@@Chance_Rice Religion is all fantasy and none of you freaks have any business trying to push it onto anyone else in any context. Keep it quiet and to yourselves in your little buildings.
“Thou shall not murder”
“STOP ENFORCING YOUR RELIGION ON ME”
@@eiavops4576 It's not murder if it's not a person. Only religious zealots see the cell clumps as people.
oh lord these replies
We want small government, except for the government putting 10-60% tax on all imports, and telling you to register your pregnancy, and telling doctors how to doctor.
Other than that, small government.
Basically small government for the rich and corporations and big government for the rest.
Just because they are anti abortion doesn’t mean they are pro life
in fact, it's quite the opposite. No one who is anti-abortion should self-proclaim as pro-life, as abortion is a policy to prevent women from dying rather than prevent fetuses (who are not people) from being born.
@@mellamanluiselio6294they are human beings that deserve the right to live like anyone else. It’s not her body either ,humans don’t have owners. It’s another human being.
they are pro-forced birth
@@mellamanluiselio6294 most pro-life support abortion in the case of the woman being at risk.
@Heartlocksjs09385 did you even read the comment
I don't care if you feel sorta bad about a fetus being killed, it is literally shown around the world in developing countries tbat a lack of access to abortion care and birth control is a characteristic of a third world country, i do not want the U.S. of all places to resemble a third world country 😭🙏
Exactly! It’s unfortunate that Republicans are trying to make abortion illegal. There’s no point in having laws that work against self-interest. As someone who is conservative, I believe abortion is effective in reducing the population of those more likely to vote for liberal policies. The demographics that tend to support them are significantly more likely to get abortions, which has had an impact on various communities and continues to do so today. In fact, the Democrats might have been stronger if abortion had not been widely available, so I don’t fully understand their strong support for it. I hope the Republican Party eventually considers this perspective. The republicans may be unintentionally weakening themselves in the long term. By reducing the number of minorities we can stay a first world country.
Correlation and causation are not even remotely close in this comparison. Do you honestly think if abortion is banned GDP will automatically plummet?
@ No probably not but every little bit helps. Think about it if 1,000,000 black babies are aborted in midwestern states like Michigan it can help tilt the elections in our favor. Michigan voted for Trump by just 2% not by much. I love state funded abortion because they’re using my tax dollars to abort people groups I don’t like. I voted for it in my state for that very reason.
@@tacotuesday1960 No yeah I agree, was replying to the poster who seems to hold a more dramatic view on the issue.
@@tacotuesday1960Absolute sociopath take. I respect it.
This is literally Handmaid’s Tale
This is literally 1984
No it's not bruh 😂
lItErAlLy ThE hAnDmAiD's TaLe
Liberals are basically incapable of separating reality from their imaginations, which explains so much.
@@Karltheknight I mean, it literally is. You're talking about taking away countless people's rights. And for what? Religious beliefs? Tell me again how that separation of Church and State was supposed to go?
@@Crystan it was never supposed to be separate
Watching this after election night is chilling. Im so scared for my future as a woman in America
just a friendly reminder this whole video is a hypothetical. Trump could or could not do this. Keep up to date on the topic and you will find out but dont take this video as fact on whats going to happen.
vote and advocate, these cooks will kick the bucket eventually. Stay strong. I want a better America for my new born niece.
@@Legend-28ththe fact that one very unpredictable person’s mind can swing this is chilling enough. Would you plan to have a child with your partner knowing that when the lady is pregnant, she could need the health care but it depends Donald Trump’s thoughts?
I feel you. We are planning for parenthood and I feel horrified now.
Do not worry. Trump does not support a national abortion ban. All he wanted to do has been done already to make the majority happy, which was bring the choice of abortion to the states.
Pro tip: there are conservatives watching this video with glee. Some people see this as a bright future that’s just on the horizon.
And?
Indeed i am.
My wife and I watched it together with glee. We held hands it was super romantic :D
@@elijahobviously1288 Oh great! You guys are adopting 6 foster kids soon right?
@@kimberlyquinn8820 how'd you know??
This is sick. I am apalled. In no other developed western democracy would this even be a question.
western democracy is a joke
It influences everyone, including those women who plan motherhood. You cant plan it if you do not have power in your hands
You do have the power. Just close your legs.
@@kaelaian21but why take an extra option away?
@@JCB576 Because that option is murder?
@@kaelaian21 My grandma had several miscarriages and stillbirths trying to conceive, the laws in some states would have put her under a microscope and treat her like a criminal for trying to create her family
@@bingus4901 but the child isnt born so i dont really see a problem
Why even banning abortion in the first place? I really don't understand the logic.
Can anyone enlighten me?
cz its haram in christianity
@@user-cw9zx7lr6r sinful, you mean
Many people view an unborn fetus as being entitled to the same rights as a young child, so they view abortion as murder.
Because it's murder.
@@Karltheknight I've seen a lot of your comments on this video, and you are speaking facts to people who believe abortion is justifiable. Just wanted to say thanks for standing up for my and many others' beliefs.
If abortion is murder the federal government doesn’t have authority over it. Homicide is a state issue. If it’s not murder, why ban it?
Wrong! Keyboard warrior.
Under 18 U.S.C. 1111, murder is defined as the “unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.” Whether murder will be filed as a federal crime always depends on where and who was killed. Further, murder is a federal crime if it violates federal law or happens while violating federal law.
@@TexasKen There are very specific circumstances under which murder is prosecuted as a federal crime, and the crime has to meet those criteria for the federal government to get involved.
If a new mom murders her baby in the crib, she will not be charged with murder federally. This is effectively what pro-lifers see abortion as, if I understand them correctly.
On further reflection, it would be more like hiring a doctor to murder her baby in the crib, and if that doctor works somewhere that receives federal funds, perhaps the argument could be made...
@@TexasKen You are thinking about killing your kid before you take a pill or have it ripped from your body. Every single person on the planet knows it's a child. You cannot hide from God's laws and claim you didn't know. You know what you do and what you advocate for.
@@user-tz5uq2bt1s
I'm pretty sure that's why he said they'd go after doctors, not mothers, with prison time.
As was said about the Comstock Act, it regulates INTERSTATE mailing of anything used to cause an abortion.
So yeah, it is federal government territory.
... and now they got "the right" president😢
Every politician says whatever they need to in order to get elected. The actions in office are almost always different or shy of what they said to get there.
did Trump ban abortion nation wide in 2016-2020?
I couldn't agree you anymore.
@@NowAndToEternity Trump nor did the Republican part run on banning abortion in 2016. Roe didn't get overturned until later and it has become a central issue in both parties.
I mean in most cases the promises can't even be fulfilled even if they wanted to. I find it hilarious that as a country we accept the same shlock over and over but keep going along with it.
Being shy of what they said or changing their stance after more information is very different from outright lying about what you intend your policies to be for the sake of winning votes (Trump).
His followers will insist that he won't ban abortion, because... He said so.
Even though he also took personal responsibility for overturning Roe v Wade 🙄.
They’re definitely backtracking since the majority doesn’t support this. I don’t trust a word out of their mouths
Biden and Harris are in office now, they could fix it if they really want to. It’s funny y’all believe the democrats and jump on their bandwagon but do anything than call the republicans the great evils.
Yeah, to bring the decision of abortion back to the States.
Did he ban abortions in 2016-2020?
@@aprilpower1158 No. Did you have some sort of point?
Imagine valuing the wellbeing of an unborn thing over an actual person
If this country was truly
"pro-life," we would have Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, gun reform, universal child care, and a living wage. The conservative agenda isn't about "life." It's about control.
So called "pro-lifers" don't need to imagine it. That's precisely what they do.
So glad I don't live in such a regressed religious based dystopia where 14 year olds have access to automatic weapons 😅
You do not understand America at all so stay out of it
And where 13 years old have to become mothers
@@Chance_Rice Okay sweetie i'm all the way out of it trust me. Whatever makes you feel better about not having a choice with your pregnancy.
The country that is the only thing stopping China from taking over the world
I wish we could still buy automatic weapons , but they banned them like 40 years ago and mass shootings did not decrease
"States Rights" until they have federal control. It's the way it's always been
then why hasnt he banned it between 2017 and 2021
Murder of a innocent human isn’t a states rights issue
@@pimphatwaggoner1655 RBG was still alive.
@@rainb5987 why wasnt it immediately banned when barrett replaced her, smart guy?
@@pimphatwaggoner1655 Cases cannot be elevated to SCOTUS immediately. Lower courts must adjudicate it first.
If RBG was still alive or at least replaced by Pres. Biden, CJ Roberts opinion would be the majority opinion and Roe should have not been overturned albeit impaired.
And yes, I'm way smarter than you.
handmaid's tale actually
lol
So what is wrong with Trump having this be banned, am I not picking something up?
Two things: First, he would do against the will of most people. So much for American "democracy", but I suppose it was never about freedom or justice. Second, the abortion ban has already killed women in states with abortion bans because doctors could not operate on women with pregnancies that were not viable and were dangerous to the health of the mother because the fetus was still "technically" alive.
So... do you not care about women, am I not picking something up?
@@ppleberrynd You cannot be serious. Anyone who rallies around democracy instantly does not know what they are talking about. This country is not and has never been a democracy, the founders knew the problems with democracy, and that is why they did not design the country as such. Actually study democracy for once and then comment instead of showing your ignorance to the world. You need numbers for your second part of your claim. If there are no numbers to your assertion, then it really does not mean anything. Also, with the numbers, make sure it is official government agency numbers, not some interest/lobbying/thinktank group. Lastly, if the numbers are in the couple of thousands (which I assume it is probably not even that high), then this is a triage issue. There are way larger problems with the U.S. right now and if you cannot see it, then you are totally lost (judging from your initial comment about democracy, it appears to be so).
you are named cornelius sit down
@@j4sp3rl0l Not surprising that the only thing you could contribute to the convo is an ad hominem insult for a silly profile name I created.
Party of small government, eh?
A small government still protects the life of its citizenry, unborn or not.
@@8isa fetus isn’t a citizen. Better luck next time
@@8ishow libertarian of you :)😊
@@8isforcing women to give birth isn’t small government
@@8isa zygote isn't a citizen
Its wild that America doesn't have proper separation of Executive and Judiciary.
They do. Judges are not beholden to the president or legislature for anything. While a president does appoint federal judges, all confirmations must be approved by a majority of the Senate, and sometimes they are not. It's hard to see how judges could come into office in any other way except direct election, but that would make them yet another political branch.
We *do.* Judges are appointed by the President and confirmed by Congress. And unless they get impeached that's the only way any other branch is involved.
@@CT-pi2gl i think he said it in companion with the Collegium System in India which is kind of more independent than the american one.
@@CT-pi2gl As we have seen during the Trump administration, all these components are soooooooo independent from each other, and there is absolutely nooooooooo way that one influences the other or forces it to act differently. Sure.
the fact that the most 'developed' and 'advanced' country is having such a debate about abortion is so tragic and feels so backward
welll, the most developed and advanced country in the world, understands abortion is killing babys.....imagine your own logic being used against you to prove you wrong.
European countries actually have stricter abortion laws than most US States.
The U.S. under Roe v. Wade had one of the most extreme abortion laws of any nation in the world. Almost every European country restricts abortion past 12-13 weeks by comparison, whilst Roe had no restriction at all.
Yeah it shouldn't be complicated. Let the States decide.
@@Karltheknight abortion is a right in the french consitution
but didn't trump say that it doesn't matter since abortion is and always will be a state matter and not a federal matter
The handmaid's tale is getting nearer and nearer as time goes on
Oh yeah, the guy who owned the Miss Universe and Miss USA beauty pageants is gonna force all women to wear ankle length dresses and bonnets. Makes sense 😂
No it's not
So you had Gilead in 2016 - 2020?
If "The Handmaid's Tale" means you can't butcher babies, then good.
@@aprilpower1158 I didn't say it was because of trump, but rather because of the rise in conservative, misogynist people in the country
but the problem is that he doesn't want to??? and that trump isn't going to endorse, follow, or include project 2025 in any way if he's elected??? i thought this was common knowledge.
He said "there has to be some form of punishment" for people who get abortions.
@@AImeria You conveniently left out the context behind those words, and your incomplete interpretation was already debunked back in 2016.
From Snopes, a credible and politically neutral fact checking organization:
What's True
Donald Trump said that if abortion were not legal, women having them should be subject to "some form of punishment."
What's False
Trump posited women should be subject to punishment for obtaining abortions under current law.
@@GdMan11. Just giving you a reply to look at the edit I made to one of my comments
So very soon I won't be able to order coat hangers by mail?
Did you know one of the founders of NARAL and key players in getting abortion legalized in
America admitted later on that they grossly inflated the numbers they published of back alley abortions?
If you’re like me and don’t like abortion, you need to understand that a universal ban isnt going to fix anything. We gotta work to remove the underlying issues that lead to needing an abortion, that way abortions don’t have to be banned, they’ll just not happen
"But opponents of abortion don't need Americans to agree with them, they just need the right president". They got it. I do feel sorry for American women.
seethe child murderer
just really hoping that Minnesota doesn't ban it, worried Minnesotan woman here😓
"No, we will be discussing specifics of it, but generally speaking, no." Translation: I have no idea what the Comstock act is. I'll say something that sounds like I have two brain cells to rub together, then excuse myself.
Then he rubbed those two cells together too hard, and one died.
2:47 Small correction: Project 2025 if a plan for the next Republican president, not Trump specifically. If Trump had lost the 2024 election, we could have expected an updated Project 2029.
It’s mind-boggling how a presidential candidate apparently has a chance while supporting policies vastly unpopular among his people.
new england and west coast are the only decent places left in america
you mean the Woke land
Quite the opposite, say that as a New Yorker myself
Just another way rich people beat down poor people.
Do stand your ground laws apply to fetuses in your house without your permission?
banning abortions but at the same time allowing the tools for 48 month olds abortion
Sorry? 48 months? I'm so confused. What are you saying?
@@Charmanderin They’re talking about school shootings. 48-month-olds being 4-year-olds who could potentially get killed and the “tools” being guns.
@@capncake8837 Thank you for clarifying!
Our right to bear arms is protected by the constitution. Last time I checked, abortion wasn't.
@@maskedrebel9670 Hey genius. The constitution can be changed literally any time.
he said, about 90.000 times, he wants abortion to be a state issue
this video lays out how a republican controlled congress could draft a bill that would ban abortion overriding the states. If he truly wanted states to decide he'd have no problem saying he'd veto that kind of bill.
@@tuckernaughtonhe would veto it cause he wants it by state. But all this is a hypothetical doomsday scenario for democrats to instill fear so we have another 4 yrs of failure. Even if Republicans got a majority of congress it’s highly unlikely they would propose a abortion ban as it would endanger any swing state seats.
that is still not very good, is like passing the issue to somebody else, and that somebody else could not do the right thing
@@NeroDefogger Oh no the federal gov passed the power to the local gov for once the way is supposed to be!
@@NeroDefogger yes, sometimes people decide on something you personally disagree with.
the horrors of democracy, I know
This is a serious concern now… after the 2024 election.
I wonder how many people who voted for the president also voted down ballot in states like Missouri, Montana and Nevada? Trump beat Harris in Michigan by 70k+ votes but Mike Rogers still lost the senate race to democrat Elissa Slotkin by around 20k votes.
Trump never said he would ban abortion. He would leave it up to the States. The Federal Government is meant to only rule on things in the constitution, leaving everything to the states, i.e. closer to the people and therefore a better representation of different people in different areas with different opinions.
Trump also said he would terminate the constitution. Why should anyone trust a single word he says? He lies like he gets off on it.
Amen
Constitutional Representation for the win!
This isn't correct, especially in times of extreme polarization.
@FoxenWulf an uneducated person calling someone educated. The irony would be funny if it wasn't so sad and depicting of your delusion.
In most of Europe abortion is legal up to the 12th week. Being european, I don't mind if someone choses abortion by the 12th weeks. But I'd find it at least awkward that people could go beyond 18 weeks to chose abortin; unless there is a very good reason. Even in France, where they put abortion right in their Constitution, abortion is illegal after 12 weeks.
Why is week 12 good and 18 not?
And yet the election is happening on razor thin margins and the only thing people talk about when asked is "the economy". Americans doesn’t seem to care about democratic backsliding, or school shootings, or LGBT+ rights, or health care, or Ukraine, and certainly not about women’s right and abortion. Clearly, this isn’t as important to folks in the US as one might think.
what rights do the lgbt+ groups not have
@@radar_the_fox exactly, at this point they're treated like a special class in society.
@@radar_the_fox They get their own month, while us men get nothing.
And that, my friend, is why the entire world is corrupt. It is based off distrust, it is why we need currency. If everyone could be trusted, money would be worthless. LOL and now I'm yapping to a person who thinks that women still don't have enough rights.
the economy is by far the most pressing issue for most people, shortly followed by healthcare
if all those states have decided to ban abortion why would trump need to implement a national abortion ban? also why should the decision be removed from the people living in said state and be elevated to a national "one size fits all" "solution"?
He hasn't said he wants a federal ban. Just said a nothing burger answer to whether he would veto a bill doing so.
7:44 "Fetal personhood" : funniest thing I have ever heard.
A Fetus is a person.
@@andreareuter4994 Surely. And CHRIST IS KING. LOL.
Trump didn't say he was going to ban abortions, he said he was going to let the states decide.
Yeah because we all know how honest and truthful Trump is.
@@mudnarchist If he was going to do it, he would have in his first term
this idea that he's going to ban abortions is completely out of nowhere
@@yogun1922Did you not watch the video? The overturning of Roe after he left office allows him to use the Comstock Act to target abortion federally.
@@TheSpartan3669 Will you eat your shoe when that doesn't happen?
@@mudnarchistlol cornball
The Comstock Act prevents the US Postal Service from delivering abortion medication. Isn't the limitation of the Comstock Act to the Postal Service a problem for it? What about private couriers delivering medication instead?
Maybe an enabling statute would be required. But that sounds like the kind of open-market competition that *actual* conservatives (who aren't interested in social control) should be on-board with.
I found a judicial opinion noting that an 1897 congressional act extends the Comstock Act to cover common carriers. (Alliance for Hippocratic Med. v. US FDA, 78 F4th 210, 267 (5th Cir 2023).) So, my position's changed... we need to make an *uncommon* carrier!
But pills can still be delivered across state lines. All 50 states I can order a pill right now in prohibited states and have it delivered to my house and end my kid.
9:45 up until this point (90% in) many will see this video as an argument to re-elect the 45th POTUS
True, these are all good plans
3:00 Trump said he will not ban abortion and Trump distanced himself from project 2025 Now we know who Vox i voting for. Common we trusted you VOX
We trusted Vox?
He refused to say he'd veto a national ban at the debate
@@tuckernaughton bc he cant
now explain how the president can ban something that will be decided by each state individually, he cant
just like the president legalized it nationally, the president cant ban it nationally too thats the point
@@antodiyo7523 a Republican controlled Congress could still draft a bill that would enforce a national ban on abortion so that even states like California aren't immune. This video alone talks of a few ways they could do that. If Trump was really against abortion or really thought it should be up to the states, than he'd commit to vetoing such a bill with precisely that reasoning but he can't even do that. So that logic of yours just doesn't hold up I'm afraid.
Whatever Trump says now will probably not be what happens if he's elected
You build a 20-foot wall, all you do is create a market for 21-foot ladders.
Not everyone can afford 21 foot ladders and a ladder can fall over while being climbed
Yet, walls have protected countless of cities, nations and civilizations for thousans of years.
Oh man, why can't the US just go with the sensible solution and make abortions legal in the first trimester and after that only in exceptional situations.
The country is an idiocracy
because that position is not good enough anymore. That position is something you'd hear in 2010, and now, you must be for abortion at any time for any reason or you're literally the Austrian mustache man.
That’s basically what it was before.
The idea is to stop people from abusing it.
Everything is very polarized in the USA, because of how large it is and how bubbled Americans are in general.
Vox, stop stirring the pot and creating chaos. Trump has said AGAIN AND AGAIN that political topics like abortion should be left up to the states to decide, it is NOT going to be up to him to deny.
Abortion should be banned. I am sorry but life does begin at conception biologically. You can't deny the status of a living thing just because you find it convenient to avoid the consequences of your own mistake. Keep your legs closed and keep your mouth shut.
Yes, you really should lecture young men to keep it in their pants. I agree.
@@Paraphrase1-Z9only blaming men is a childish thing to say
Anyone who feels ambivalent about abortion. I get that.
Just read the Handmaid's Tale.
That book is nowadays again as accurate as it was in the 1980s.
The book has become a warning once again for things that can very truely happen in the near future.
It really shows why you should want abortion. Even when you're as pro-life as they come. The political consequences as shown in the Handmaid's Tale show why you should still want the right for abortion!
@@TikoVerhelst you don't have a right to murder others
@@bingus4901focus on taking care of the living breathing children being shot in schools
@@swara4704 Who is saying they have a right to shoot children?
Donald trump is a living evidence that legal abortion must be allowed.
That's awfully rude of you, people have opinions now, it's why the word "controversial" exists. Saying that someone who has worked 10x harder than you to get into a position to become president should have never lived is so wrong.
Banning abortions or making it harder to get abortions is such a slap to the face of low income women. Like yes it's bad, but lets not act like abortion bans has equal impact. Even in states where it's completely ban, if you got money you can just hop on a plane to another state for a weekend and get the care. A poor women is stuck with a kid they didn't want and many times their state gets to stuck with that kid too.
Republican politicians will and have campaigned against abortion while flying women in their family to legal states for abortions. It's classism all the way down
@@Greenitthe Do you realize what classism even means, the women who get pregnant by their own will and happen to not be able to support a baby are not justified by their income.
"a kid they didn't want" last time I checked, most people plan to get pregnant when they can afford it and handle the responsibility of being a parent. They wanted that child, or they are unknowledgable.
Trump did what he said he would do during the 2016 debates with Hillary, let the states decide. 7 of 10 states did last Tuesday to allow abortion so seems like a fair policy by Trump to let the people decide.
If this country was truly
"pro-life," we would have Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, gun reform, universal child care, and a living wage. The conservative agenda isn't about "life." It's about control.
He already said he’s not banning it.
his vp supports a ban tho
and he lies all the time.. his actions suggest he might
Trump said he would step down peacefully. Trump said he would not replace RBG from the supreme Court if she died. News flash. Trump lies.
@@jeremytine Why didn't he ban it when he was president?
@@HaydenGrunder because he didn't have the opportunity yet... presidents don't write laws, they just pass or veto what congress writes.
Disgusting. I can only hope that my state Massachusetts defies ANY AND ALL federal abortion ban and protects its citizens and doctors.
James Bopp Jr. visited your state last year. Just be aware of him and his strategies.
@@arizvisa Ugh, can't stand that guy... He wants fetal personhood but it's certainly not going to happen here!
Shame on you for wanting to murder children
It's terrifying, let me just say that. Lives have been risked because of this.
@@denisvlonjat822 Fetuses aren't children. They're not even people.
there was a time when any law attempting to ban slavery would have been repealed by the majority of Americans. Slavery was still wrong.
Pregnant people or pregnant women ?
You can tell what kind of "experts" are talking.
Its not that deep
@@GreenittheFor people that can't define a woman its actually very deep.
Unless Seahorses are US citizens, men cannot become pregnant
women are people, are we not?
“My body my choice” doesn’t that apply to a vulnerable baby with a heartbeat just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s now valuable. It’s sad that people think it’s ok.
“Vulnerable baby” is ridiculous wording
We trust women to decide what's best for themselves in freedom and privacy.
@@clbbarle9903Call it ridiculous if you wish. It's grammatically correct wording. Fetuses are definitionally babies, objectively alive, and vulnerable because they're in the very beginning stages of life
@@AidanBuelingi think child support laws should increase to 60% wages if men want women to carry children thats okay but lets garnish more of their wages to support that child so if the women leaves she can have most of that guys money. Thats fair
Women get abortions for many other reasons other than babies. You're quite literally asking the government to take away another life saving surgical procedure
US has a very complex constitution
The trump administration has already stated it would veto this.
Human sacrifice does create economic success. Just ask the Aztecs.