bryokyo Say Bryokyo, I'd like to know who was the returning champion for this episode and who of these 3 players(including your dad) won this main game overall and based on the bonus prizes, I believe this was from the week of March 1-5, 1993. Correct me if I'm wrong but the week of March 1-5, 1993 week of episodes was when your dad was on.
IvoryM1986 haha, I'm not too sure when it is, but you seem like a very devoted player if you guessed that correctly! One things for sure, and that's that I know my dad got last place xD haha
@@HarrisonPeloso How sad does your life have to be that you reply to a three-year-old comment just to call someone an insult that you'd hear on the elementary school playground?
I say no. The only way he could have cheated would be if he actually touched the wheel. Not only that, but the wheel is a separate part from the scoreboard. Plus, the wheel is suspended off the ground slightly on some type of pendulum, allowing it to be spun. The force of hitting his fist on the top of the scoreboard would have to be strong enough to either shake the floor or move the whole scoreboard podium to the point where it hits the wheel base (keep in mind, there's 3 other people already standing on it). Besides, if this was enough to cause it to flip, you would see a lot more of this from people jumping up and down. But you don't.
Omega, there is no way something as small as a fist could create "pressures waves" with enough force to move the wheel with resistance of the peg thing.
cheating is when somebody does an unfair advantage but if the advantage was never said in the rules its not cheating unless its like changing the rules of the game or something like that
GMA did a game show behind the scenes thing and the reporter doing the story mention how heavy the wheel was when she tried to spin it herself so based on that. I have a difficult time believing he moved the wheel by pounding on the table. I didn't think he really hit it that hard either. But I'm not willing to discount the possibility either. Somehow that very last golf shot at the end of Caddyshack comes to mind with the ball teetering on the edge of the cup.
Given the circumstances, I'd say he didn't cheat. By definition, to cheat is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination." He wasn't being dishonest. He wasn't being unfair, as that would have had to be intentional. If the producers wanted, they could have just said to move it back to the 550 wedge. But in the end, even if he did it intentionally, since he didn't end up solving the puzzle anyway, it didn't really affect the game.
Magic Class He was lucky that the peg moved. He did not cheat because he did not physically move the wheel. It just happened that it was close enough to move and when he hit the table, it moved.
there is, In the backstage of every tv show, a bailiff. He gives decisions in case of doubt. If they accepted this, then, you're father's not a cheater ! Sorry if my english is bad (French mate ;) )
Tizzy Allan Yes, but you aren’t under hot lights and intense pressure to solve a puzzle and try to win money... Check out the video on the “Clam Digger” answer! There’s no way the guy wasn’t in a state of shock and too frozen to think
I'd say no, he didn't cheat. The host clearly saw it happen, along with the judges and they let it slide. It doesn't matter anyway because he failed to be the one to solve the puzzle and as such, lost the surprise.
Absolutely no cheating has gone on here. That fuckin needle was beyond the border pin. Even if it didn't pop into place I would have still considered it to have been in the "Surprise' slot.
Looks like he got the answer wrong on purpose because he didnt want to get any backlash from others thinking he cheated even tho it was an accident to beging with
I like how it was in slow-motion. That was awesome. Anyway, I don't consider cheating. He just hit the counter with his fist. I'm totally blind, so my mom told me what happened. And I've been reading the comments, (in braille.) I'm hoping to be on Wheel Of Fortune. But I'd have to do Family Week. Unless I can work on this Braille Letter Board. It will be a device for the blind so blind people can be on Wheel Of Fortune.
That is a tough call. I don't think he intended to move the peg on the wheel if that's the case. He just got frustrated and it happened to move the peg over. Honestly, they shouldn't have given him the SURPRISE. But that was more of the fault of Pat and/or the judges. They should have just went with the $500, or was it $900? I'm too lazy to play back, but you know what I mean. But since he didn't solve the puzzle in that round, it's really not an issue anyway. It's convenient when errors like these don't affect the game's outcome.
The flipper was on $550 when the wheel stopped, so I was surprised they let him pick up the Surprise. The irony is he landed on the same spot the very next spin.
Technically, No. The force of his hands (in rage) had MOVED it slightly to the surprise, and obviously hit it. If he WERE to cheat, he would've probably moved it ON PURPOSE to the surprise. I honestly think it was a mistake. Like: Mistake Comment: On purpose
Haha, at first I thought there was some mini-scandal and dude was trying to exonerate his dad, but actually clearly just trying to give the old man a hard time. Well played.
I think they switched to the computerized board in 1997, where Vanna only has to touch the screen. This allows them to do more puzzles, as they used to have to wheel the puzzle board offstage, take out the letters, put new letters in, and turn them all back to hide them. They also had to reset the board lights every time.
The hit on the beam above the wheel is what sent a vibration toward the wheel and anything else attached to it - that is what unexpectedly moved the pointer into SURPRISE.
Do you and your dad not get along or something? You seem to be raking your pop over the coals quite a bit. He's probably glad to know you have his back. 😒
Haha, no its quite the opposite! He's the one that told me to edit and upload his footage from Wheel of Fortune, and we joke around about this all the time:D
the wheel is an independant movable structure from the platform where the contestants are. It would be almost impossible for vibration. the only time he touches the wheel is to initiate the spin. If he was bent over the wheel at the time someone from the audeince, other contestants or the production people would have seen it. The last thing any game show needs is a cheating scandal. Pat has nothing to do with a decision. There are people offstage that would make that decision and signal Pat. The people lin the best position to see anyone cheat would have to tell Pat to let it go. You can even hear Pat say he needs to check
Pat & The Judges made the right & the only fair call by crediting Rob with "The Surprise Wedge". I've watched "wheel" enough during my lifetime so far to know a legitimate decision when I see one. No need to explain my reasoning. I'm both a faithful "Wheel Watcher" & a "Loyal Friend in True" of "The Price is Right". I watch "The Price is Right" every weekday morning Monday - Friday & I watch "Wheel of Fortune" every night including Saturday night reruns too.
In the 2007 reboot we had in Italy, sometimes the flipper stopped between two spaces. It was ruled that the "good" space is the one the flipper was coming from.
lmfao Nah, that's not cheating. I mean, unless he knew that would happen if he hit the podium, but that is sooooo much of a stretch, the level of plausibility is far less than considerable. But the real question is if that is actually your father, or are you just trying to get attention like a weasel?
He was just frustrated that it missed the "Surprise" space by a fraction and expressed it by pounding the table. He can't help it that it made the wheel go on to the surprise.
I believe he knew the force of his fist hitting the banister at 862 PSI (pounds per square inch) would shift the balance of the peg, creating a divergence field without derivation, thus causing the peg to slip into the surprise slot. So then, yes he cheated.
I'm going to have to say No he didn't cheat. If he DID cheat he would have gotten every answer correct and would have bee solving them left and right. Judging by his facial expressions it was not his intent to move the wheel, it was simply gravitaional friction waves vibrating through the desk and through the floor.
He didnt cheat that was an act of random chance. Or cause and effect. For instance my dog farted so loud she scared herself which is the same as he hit the table and the peg moved.
He called the wrong letter afterwards. But had he solved that puzzle and gone on to the bonus round, he would've have kept all of his winnings, but the lady who did win that night would probably have been brought back on a later episode.
If anything, it was on accident. You can see it in his face that wasn't his intent
Haha, yeah it definitely was, but it was still funny to get his confused reaction
bryokyo Say Bryokyo, I'd like to know who was the returning champion for this episode and who of these 3 players(including your dad) won this main game overall and based on the bonus prizes, I believe this was from the week of March 1-5, 1993. Correct me if I'm wrong but the week of March 1-5, 1993 week of episodes was when your dad was on.
IvoryM1986 haha, I'm not too sure when it is, but you seem like a very devoted player if you guessed that correctly! One things for sure, and that's that I know my dad got last place xD haha
bryokyo What'd he win?
Greg Palmer Lol, I'm not sure exactly how much, but he didn't place first.
I clicked on the video because I thought he literally broke the wheel by spinning it too hard or something
@Matt Owens funny I didn't know Rosie O'Donnell was from quahog 😂
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I wouldn't call it cheating...he had no idea that was going to happen.
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@@HarrisonPeloso How sad does your life have to be that you reply to a three-year-old comment just to call someone an insult that you'd hear on the elementary school playground?
I say no. The only way he could have cheated would be if he actually touched the wheel.
Not only that, but the wheel is a separate part from the scoreboard. Plus, the wheel is suspended off the ground slightly on some type of pendulum, allowing it to be spun. The force of hitting his fist on the top of the scoreboard would have to be strong enough to either shake the floor or move the whole scoreboard podium to the point where it hits the wheel base (keep in mind, there's 3 other people already standing on it).
Besides, if this was enough to cause it to flip, you would see a lot more of this from people jumping up and down. But you don't.
Have you ever heard of preassure waves in the air? Huh?!?!
Omega, there is no way something as small as a fist could create "pressures waves" with enough force to move the wheel with resistance of the peg thing.
Vibration
Have you ever heard of that?
OMEGA ARCHER FILES Would the argument change if I say my dad was a very strong body builder?? ...because he wasn't...
I don't think it was intentional so I wouldn't call it cheating
cheating is when somebody does an unfair advantage but if the advantage was never said in the rules its not cheating unless its like changing the rules of the game or something like that
Doesn't matter cuz he lost
EqualsPeach Wtf EqualsPeach this is like the last place I would expect to find you lmao
Me too thanks.
So did Hillary
Angry Dergon just shut up
RUDY MINOR no
I can see how they though he was cheating, but it's their fault for having such a sensitive wheel.
Broth same
What do you expect from old mechanics back in a day ?
Tenichly the prize should have been his from the get go. It was clearly a inch from going in the wedge
The wheel weighs 2400 pounds so he must have a really strong arm
Nice double entendre
I think it was completely accidental.
Not really, he hit the table in slight rage and accidently moved the peg.
GMA did a game show behind the scenes thing and the reporter doing the story mention how heavy the wheel was when she tried to spin it herself so based on that. I have a difficult time believing he moved the wheel by pounding on the table. I didn't think he really hit it that hard either. But I'm not willing to discount the possibility either. Somehow that very last golf shot at the end of Caddyshack comes to mind with the ball teetering on the edge of the cup.
Given the circumstances, I'd say he didn't cheat. By definition, to cheat is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination." He wasn't being dishonest. He wasn't being unfair, as that would have had to be intentional. If the producers wanted, they could have just said to move it back to the 550 wedge. But in the end, even if he did it intentionally, since he didn't end up solving the puzzle anyway, it didn't really affect the game.
I'm sorta surprised they did not go back to $550 honestly.
Nope, your dad didn't cheat. It was a normal reaction to the situation. Your dad seems like a good guy. 👍👍👍
@Joe Casson yes, yes it is
@MasterSeel no he doesn't
Exactly! It was a perfectly normal reaction.
It looked like an accident, and there is not enough evidence to prove he was cheating.
Eric Maltbia did you check for his smirking expression?
Eric Maltbia yeah but there’s actually no “evidence” at all. A hunch isn’t “evidence” of cheating
Well, let's put it this way:
Are you allowed to hit the table in rage while playing Jenga?
yes because if you're hitting the table in rage, it's probably because you already knocked the tower down
XD OMFG
Noobbrosif well put
258th Hi Guy Yeah, totally the same thing. You fucking idiot
Yes, If you want to destroy the jenga tower
That was your dad? I thought it was my dad? Are we brothers?
... "as a matter of fact" it was the kids mother he cheated on all those years ago
Your joke was way too unappreciated!
ABHORRENCE You got a thumbs up from me.! ;-)
Your mom bitch
Mark Wise Because it wasn't funny and shouldn't have been appreciated at all.
He did not cheat, just got very lucky.
RockyRoad88 Lucky how? Did you watch the video? Stop please I beg
Magic Class He was lucky that the peg moved. He did not cheat because he did not physically move the wheel. It just happened that it was close enough to move and when he hit the table, it moved.
I hope you bug him every Mother's day about gifts.
CMPunk99 haha
I'm late, but why the heck were you looking for a hockey fan in a comment section for Wheel of Fortune?
Hey Dad, It's Mother's Day... could you give me a lift to the mall?
I hope I can afford to get my mom a nice Mother's Day Lift this year.
Or any woman that matter 😁if you know what i mean?!
The CGI on that intro is pretty good for '94
I was thinking the same thing lol
It’s actually 92
@@MorganNye - this. If it was the syndicated version’s 10th anniversary, it would be the 1991-92 season (season 11)
@@DJParticle actually the show with Pat and Vanna was 9 years old at the time in 1991-1992.
@@MorganNye - Oh! You're right. I was confusing the start date of the syndi version (1983) with the date Sajak started hosting (1981)
no, sajack went to the judges on it. The hit was out of frustration without thinking about the wheel.
Agreed
Not cheating freak accident. The host decided he would let it slide.
not necessarily. after all Pat DID check with the production staff and THEY allowed it.
im guessing he was frustrated and didnt got SURPRISE so he hit the table in frustration and bingo SURPRISE
Completely unintentional! Your dad is off the hook. Plus, since the producer made the call, he's fine.
there is, In the backstage of every tv show, a bailiff. He gives decisions in case of doubt. If they accepted this, then, you're father's not a cheater ! Sorry if my english is bad (French mate ;) )
This was an accident, not intentional. I don't think anyone knew this would happen, especially him.
your dad looks like the dadest dad of all dads gg
lol
He is the dad of all dads
That’s not cheating, that’s just a reaction! Look at his second reaction as soon as the arrow moves to ‘surprise.’
Dad, you are not guilty. 🧑⚖️
Looked like an accident
Louie V. Baby Looks like your username was a mistake
Yours isn't any better Mr.Josh hal.
*+Josh hal,* lol, you liked your own comment!
Ivan Salmoran - You liked your own comment too tho...
*+MarioManTj,* not really, but thanks for noticing lol
He's kinda look like Michael Larson from that classic game show " Press Your Luck" but only younger
he coudn't guess "mothers day gift" with 3 letters left but could get "as a matter of fact" with almost nothing???
what the actual fuck?????
Pat: We are the most popular game show.
Price is right: Are you sure about that?
Who else is here from game grumps?
I don't think your dad cheated.
He never touched the wheel
idk, there have been weirder accidents in the modern WoF. I'll call him innocent
The wheel weighs 2000 pounds, it needs even more force than that in order for the peg to be far enough from the pointer.
source?
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/wheel-of-fortune-trivia_n_6157918.html
Loses the easiest word but gets the next one. Geez.
Ive watched this over 765 times since its been posted. I still wouldnt of got a mothers day lift.
Tizzy Allan Yes, but you aren’t under hot lights and intense pressure to solve a puzzle and try to win money... Check out the video on the “Clam Digger” answer! There’s no way the guy wasn’t in a state of shock and too frozen to think
The shock wave from him hitting the desk probably upset the perfect balance of the needle. After all, just yelling can cause an avalanche.
He didn't cheat, it was a lucky coincidence.
That looks fine to me
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It wasn't intentional, and they allowed it
He guessed L ...... He cheated himself out of a win if you ask me
I'd say no, he didn't cheat. The host clearly saw it happen, along with the judges and they let it slide. It doesn't matter anyway because he failed to be the one to solve the puzzle and as such, lost the surprise.
That's what you'd need to do to get it off of Bankrupt.
Nope not a cheater. Not even close. He was just a surprised as Alex.
wrong show. pat not alex
You mean Regis.
Johnny McConnell its pat not regis
It's Pat hun. Alex is jeopardy, Pat is wheel of Fortune.
Pat sajack. Can't spell
Absolutely no cheating has gone on here. That fuckin needle was beyond the border pin. Even if it didn't pop into place I would have still considered it to have been in the "Surprise' slot.
He is Fonzie
Ayyyyy!!!!!!!!
Who?
*hits jukebox
Looks like he got the answer wrong on purpose because he didnt want to get any backlash from others thinking he cheated even tho it was an accident to beging with
I don't think that he cheated. It was just that the wheel was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
In this case I think you mean the RIGHT place at the RIGHT time. LOL.
Maybe that too!
I like how it was in slow-motion. That was awesome. Anyway, I don't consider cheating. He just hit the counter with his fist. I'm totally blind, so my mom told me what happened. And I've been reading the comments, (in braille.) I'm hoping to be on Wheel Of Fortune. But I'd have to do Family Week. Unless I can work on this Braille Letter Board. It will be a device for the blind so blind people can be on Wheel Of Fortune.
Nothing broke.
That is a tough call. I don't think he intended to move the peg on the wheel if that's the case. He just got frustrated and it happened to move the peg over. Honestly, they shouldn't have given him the SURPRISE. But that was more of the fault of Pat and/or the judges. They should have just went with the $500, or was it $900? I'm too lazy to play back, but you know what I mean. But since he didn't solve the puzzle in that round, it's really not an issue anyway. It's convenient when errors like these don't affect the game's outcome.
The flipper was on $550 when the wheel stopped, so I was surprised they let him pick up the Surprise. The irony is he landed on the same spot the very next spin.
Technically, No. The force of his hands (in rage) had MOVED it slightly to the surprise, and obviously hit it. If he WERE to cheat, he would've probably moved it ON PURPOSE to the surprise. I honestly think it was a mistake.
Like: Mistake
Comment: On purpose
He cheated but not deliberately. In the end it was the judge's decision and he ended up losing anyways, so it all worked out fine.
I say no, anybody could have done that. Even the host!!!
He didn't cheat, it was the vibration from when he hit the table to make the wheel hit the next spot which was the "surprise" one.
the wheel weights 2 tons and. that is like jumping next to a car and setting off the alarm
punker4Real I mean I walked by a car and it set off the alarm, lol
Haha, at first I thought there was some mini-scandal and dude was trying to exonerate his dad, but actually clearly just trying to give the old man a hard time. Well played.
How many years ago did this happen and why are we still debating it?
+Mike Newton lol
he said 1986 in the video
It said in one of the comments this was around March of 1993 wqhen this aired. based on formaT of the show and prices involved.
That was when he started his company.
I think they switched to the computerized board in 1997, where Vanna only has to touch the screen. This allows them to do more puzzles, as they used to have to wheel the puzzle board offstage, take out the letters, put new letters in, and turn them all back to hide them. They also had to reset the board lights every time.
It was unintended, but he went with it, so I think he cheated
That's some crazy luck, I think.
The hit on the beam above the wheel is what sent a vibration toward the wheel and anything else attached to it - that is what unexpectedly moved the pointer into SURPRISE.
Do you and your dad not get along or something?
You seem to be raking your pop over the coals quite a bit.
He's probably glad to know you have his back. 😒
Haha, no its quite the opposite! He's the one that told me to edit and upload his footage from Wheel of Fortune, and we joke around about this all the time:D
pem1974
What?
bryoko, just wait til hes on his deathbed and shocking admits to actually cheating, Boom baby... lololol
the wheel is an independant movable structure from the platform where the contestants are. It would be almost impossible for vibration. the only time he touches the wheel is to initiate the spin. If he was bent over the wheel at the time someone from the audeince, other contestants or the production people would have seen it. The last thing any game show needs is a cheating scandal. Pat has nothing to do with a decision. There are people offstage that would make that decision and signal Pat. The people lin the best position to see anyone cheat would have to tell Pat to let it go. You can even hear Pat say he needs to check
That peg wasn't hanging on by much, so when a prize like that barely slips through your fingers, I'd slam my fist too.
no he did not cheat
That's gotta be the most embarrassing thing to happen where you cheated, but still lost.
Pat & The Judges made the right & the only fair call by crediting Rob with "The Surprise Wedge". I've watched "wheel" enough during my lifetime so far to know a legitimate decision when I see one. No need to explain my reasoning. I'm both a faithful "Wheel Watcher" & a "Loyal Friend in True" of "The Price is Right". I watch "The Price is Right" every weekday morning Monday - Friday & I watch "Wheel of Fortune" every night including Saturday night reruns too.
He didn't cheat, he was just caught up in the excitement. He didn't win and in the grand scheme of things it's fun to watch.
at least he didn't won that ugly car
Skyline583 how old are you? If you are young then of course, that makes sense!
He has a car for a profile picture this comment is poetic
"didn't won"
If you noticed the wheel isn't stable anyway, so the peg pushed it over there. Sometimes the wheel reverts backward in some cases if you noticed.
I Wonder If Pat Would Of Let Pops Slide If He Had Some Big Money At Risk?............hhhhmm..
Pat wouldn''t make that decision the judges off stage would have to say yes. The amount of the prize is irrelevant
He did not cheat. It's called physics: he rapped on the table, the energy transferred to the wheel which made it move.
Accidents happen so he didn’t cheat
No I don't think he cheated....he didn't touch the wheel to make it move after it stopped.
It was fair
*+Tylur Medeiros,* lol, you liked your own comment!
In the 2007 reboot we had in Italy, sometimes the flipper stopped between two spaces. It was ruled that the "good" space is the one the flipper was coming from.
GREAT START KIM
I mean, he probably didn't intended to cheat, but he just happen to see an opportunity there when he saw how close it was.
lmfao
Nah, that's not cheating. I mean, unless he knew that would happen if he hit the podium, but that is sooooo much of a stretch, the level of plausibility is far less than considerable.
But the real question is if that is actually your father, or are you just trying to get attention like a weasel?
He was just frustrated that it missed the "Surprise" space by a fraction and expressed it by pounding the table. He can't help it that it made the wheel go on to the surprise.
Top ten questions science can't answer
Look how easy it is to put text over a game show recording, claiming a contestant is a relative.
No he didn’t mean for it to make it land on surprise
sounds like someone who just hated their father. sad.
I believe he knew the force of his fist hitting the banister at 862 PSI (pounds per square inch) would shift the balance of the peg, creating a divergence field without derivation, thus causing the peg to slip into the surprise slot. So then, yes he cheated.
“Great start Kim”
No. It's not like he expected the wheel's peg to give him the 'SURPRISE' when he hit the table.
Who accused him of cheating? It doesn’t matter anyway. He lost!
The only crime i see are those 70's serial killer glasses he was sporting
He didn't cheat, he just fixed the wheel.
I'm going to have to say No he didn't cheat. If he DID cheat he would have gotten every answer correct and would have bee solving them left and right. Judging by his facial expressions it was not his intent to move the wheel, it was simply gravitaional friction waves vibrating through the desk and through the floor.
I’m not going to say he plain cheated, but skillfully cheated.
He didnt cheat that was an act of random chance. Or cause and effect. For instance my dog farted so loud she scared herself which is the same as he hit the table and the peg moved.
no he learned the strategy of the patterns of the game
It was unintentional, but Pat could have just moved the wheel back, and explained that the producers felt the hit changed the spot.
The caption says he broke the wheel. I was waiting for it to come flying off its support and roll across the room.
He called the wrong letter afterwards. But had he solved that puzzle and gone on to the bonus round, he would've have kept all of his winnings, but the lady who did win that night would probably have been brought back on a later episode.
It was just an accident. Bob didn't know the peg was gonna move.