What Happened to WU TANG Best Lyricist GZA? Stunted Growth Music
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Today’s feature is a guy that was not only known to the world as a genius, but he really was one. A musical one. Not to limit him, because he may be more to the people that know him closer, but to hip hop fans, especially in the 90s, GZA was a lyricist’ lyricist. A rapper’s rapper. Not many rappers period have ever been as good as The GZA. So why then is he often one of the ones not mentioned, even at times by hip hop heads when Wu-Tang is brought up? What Happened to the GZA that caused him not to about to what his talent suggested?
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Simply the best ever. DOOM up there with him
Stunted you are bugging. He's top 50 maybe top 20.
GZA should be in the top 10 or 20 lyricists of all time but he was too advanced for most audiences...they wanted to be spoon fed junk food...instead of enjoying gourmet 5 course meals because they ate veggies...anything that will elevate the mentality of the youth...the Rap music industry does not promote it!
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You said Meth was a ladies man back when Lightskin was in? What does skin complexion have to do with anything? Meth is not lightskin and if he was why is that soo much of an issue? Black people are so damn obsessed over minor exterior things like skin complexion which is one reason why Black people are so disunited as a race
GZA wasn't stunted. He never wanted to be an industry puppet after learning his lesson from Cold Chillin. He was always about being a lyricist. No he isn't flashy or flamboyant like his other brothers but his pen was always sharp. He was for the purists of hip hop who emphasized the talent over the appeal. Beneath the Surface, Legends of the Liquid Sword and Pro Tools all are incredible works in spite of not getting the same attention as Liquid Swords. GZA wasn't for the mainstream and he was fine with that. He found and strived in his own lane.
Facts ✌🏼
Truth✊🏾
Cold world a song that’s always in my head
His deep lyricism ain't gonna make a radio hit sadly
@@Agentunderfire I meant to include that too. Another classic
I will always remember GZA for reminding me to diversify my bonds
Goated moment
Bong. Bong.
Underrated? Pretty much any hip-hop fan worth their salt rates GZA as one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
GZA is sales wise underrated. His talent is on top…
Much respect, but I don't think GZA's growth wasn't stunted. I think the path he took was the one he wanted his legacy to be and in his eyes he did what he set out to do. Plus he's part of the greatest Hip Hop groups ever. Animal Planet off of "Legend of the Liquid Sword" is one of the most creative songs ever made in my opinion.
That track is absolutely bananas.
Liquid swords by Gza is still one of the classic LP
Animal Planet, Fame, Labels & Queens Gambit....he has that "Word Association" style on lock! ✊🏽🙂❤
@@greggpoppabich9281 Don't forget the song Publicity.
@@1978pq Yeah bruh, I really don't think GZA qualifies 4 "Stunted Growth" but, I git that he prolly wantd 2 touch on his career & contributions 2 hip hop & wuzn't tryn 2 change tha name of his show 2 do it. GZA is uh legend wit tha Wu & on his own. That Grandmasters wit DJ Muggs wuz dope! GZA had me pumped up w8n on "Dark Matter" & well....✊🏽🙂❤
GZA is for the hip hop heads. I couldn't ever see him appealing to the pop charts....
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So true. I don’t think any serious hip-hop fan would want him any other way. Liquid Swords is like some hidden scroll only the enlightened can appreciate.
Very much.
Big facts it wasn't like wu was big on radio appeal and videos the most marketable ones were meth, ghost
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Actually it was Meth and ODB.
I'm calling it now: Liquid Swords will be inducted into the Library of Congress in the future...that is how much of a CLASSIC that album is....#GZA
GZA content is way above the comprehension of the average radio listener. Most can appreciate his craft but have the slightest clue as to what he's talking bout. And, that does nothing for ratings.
Gza is a good artist but not the best out of the clan . Monotone never did fast rap word play , never added melody , limited with style .
The GZA doesn’t need all the fame. Liquid swords is platinum and his other albums did well. The guy is lecturing in universities. He has bigger fish to fry
GZA has a classic wouldn't say his growth was stunted...
You need to do Wu Tang's most overlooked member that wrote what I think is the greatest opening verse ever. On Triumph...Inspectah Deck.
"I'm the obscene slang kicker with no parental sticker/ Advisin ya'll that wise words is much slicker" - GZA from the song Knock Knock
GZA is definitely a Genius. Dude is definitely underrated. Great video.
Nothing stunted about GZA. Not everyone is meant to be or wants to be a mega star. He’s exactly where I bet he wants to be and he has a devoted following on his own without the Wu.
Always considered him the best pure lyricist of the Wu. He's like that guy on an NBA team who's not as flashy as say, an MJ, Kobe, or Iverson but is probably the most fundamentally sound player on the team. Basically like the Tim Duncan or Larry Bird of Wu-Tang.
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“Like getting smashed by a cinder block
Pow! Now it's all over! Nigahs seeing pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers” definitely slept on
GZA predicted the SKITTLES aka COCO PUFF movement that's turning MEN into RUPAUL'S
his clan is thick like plaster
Liquid Swords will always be a classic album
GZA 93-00 is still my favorite MC of all time. Not only his lyricism, but his voice and flow is just mesmerizing to me. A verse like his on As High As Wu-Tang Gets is just perfection in my book
Same with ODB..it was getting harder to market the 'rugged' look..Liquid Swords is my top 3 favorite Wu-Tang solo artist albums
I think odb legal troubles were his downfall
@@terucks All of this was mentioned in a previously made "Stunted growth" video...im just going straight to what him and ODB had in common
@Wil Paul They have money, wear designer, flex, talk they shit and some actually have game/gems in their raps.....GZA/WU TANG version of rugged is NOT the same level of marketability of someone like Dababy/lil baby/Drill Rap..but I do agree its hard to fool people who really know what it is
Dope GZA Bar Quote !
"NO MATTER WHAT I'M THROWIN' A ILLER DART, I GOT THE WORDS THAT COULD SOFTENS A KILLER HEART. !
Song off Dj Muggs Vs GZA -"Grandmaster" album ...💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Don't think GZA should be on stunted growth.
Gza was making music for adults.
And back in those days it was mostly teenagers listening.
Once the Bling era came in in the 2000s a lot of hip hop acts was phased out unless you adjusted to the era like ghost face and method man and to an extent raekwon those are the only ones out the group that smoothly transitioned into the 2000s.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that the 90s acts that stuck around were the ones who adapted even busta started making songs like break ya neck n started rocking golds n shi+ around that time lbs
@@KobaniacMinded facts I forgot to mention Busta he transitioned into the 2000s effortlessly, some hip hop acts can just adapt better.
Swear it was hard for alot of groups and acts that had this lofi or smooth hip-hop sounds Busta rhymes switched up and gave a whole new sound method man gave out judgement day and red man collab
This sounds like a preferential choice - GZA is notoriously introverted and wasn't as flamboyant as other Wu members, but stunted? Dude was highly cerebral and never compromised his style - I still blast GZA and even his collabo with DJ Muggs -- I wouldn't say he was stunted, he just wasn't as popular as the other clan members - and how you make this video about GZA and skip over U-God or Masta Killa or Cappadonna? Your videos are great, don't get it twisted, I enjoy them, but you gotta take a fat L for this one. GZA is a legend.....
Bumped "Liquid Swords" front to bac,just last week. 🤷🏽♂️🔥
@@x_VineM_x I listen to that every few weeks - I still have a copy of LS on cassette! Not one wack or skippable track on that album, every song is a banger....
The gza/muggs collab was pure classic
Agreed 💯
Masta Killa
Capadonna
To me were stunted on
The Pillage is classic dropped in that insane spring of 98 Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Its Dark and Hell is Hot
Capital Punishment
N.O.R.E
Also released at that time and got all the attention (as they shouldve bought them all day 1 back then)
GZA's Pro Tools album birthed the underground sound today with drumless loops and features from Roc Marciano and Ka
I don't know if Gza neccesarily qualifies for a "Stunted Growth". I don't think he actually cared to be a big pop star. If that wasn't his aim, I don't know how his career could be considered stunted
Flood during rza basement should be stunted growth especially inspectah deck and mastah killah.
Aint nothing stunted about GZA, he was part of a legendary group with a classic album, and put out a solo classic album.
You're buggin' now. This guy did not have a stunted growth as he is a revered MC. I don't see how a legend had a stunted growth. Otherwise, he wouldn't be a legend. I like your work nevertheless, but GZA didn't deserve this. I can see you doing one on ODB, but this one here wasn't worth it.
Well said! To us 90s teenagers in the Germany who are in love with Hip-Hop Wu-Tang is like a religion…
@Anthony Mcken sure fans outside of the USA still got so much love for them. Wu Wear and Wu-Tang logo drawn on Eastpak backpack with Eddings were the thing to do back than.
This is probably the only Stunted Growth that I disagree with you on
GZA was always the quiet type -- he never switched his style to sell records and keep up with the times
He stayed true to himself and his core
You gotta respect that
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I absolutely love the GZA, he is a pillar of real hip hip just like KRS-1. Thank you for your sacrifice and dedication to keep it lyrical a.k.a. REAL.✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💪🏾💪🏾
GZA had a solid career and reach his peaked. It will be unfair to say he stunted his career. If it wasn't for the flood in rza basement it would've prolong wu tang and every members time in the industry into the early 00s.
You should do killah priest after heavy mental, inspectah deck and mastah killah unreleased album lost from the flood in rza basement.
Yes! And the 10 year radio ban contributed to their decline
@@ADyani6 yes, and the same commercial on repeat every single day.
Not underrated or stunted… Top 20 for me of all-time! Real hip hop heads know! Top 10 pure lyricist of all-time! IYKYK!
As the comments by many already mentioned that Gza should not be characterized as “Stunted Growth.” Like few of his songs, Protect Ya Neck to Labels to Fame - you could tell where he was coming from as an artist. That’s like saying MF DOOM, Madlib, and other in that lane are stunted because they aren’t mainstream artists.
I hate to say it but if it wasn’t for the Gza l would not bad as huge of a Wu-Tang Clan fan as l am. It all started with “I gotcha Bac”!! That’s when the Hook went in my mouth and l was caught like a fish and a Wu-Banger 4Life!! His style blends with certain personalities and the Gza gelled with mine!!
He’s in my Top 3 of all the Clan and l just wanted to give the God some Luv and Props!!
Peace!!
#Salute!!
#Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!
I'm sure GZA doesn't give a fuck too much about sales. Anyone who knows anything about rap has mad respect for him. If it wasn't for Deck, he'd be my favorite from the Wu. And his appeal was a slow burn. I didn't really pay that much attention to him initially, but upon multiple listenings, his "genius" really started to shine through.
His growth was never stunted
Considering his lack of commercial appeal, he actually overachieved. There are a lot of lyricists who would kill to have his record sales.
Always love your content BUT you got it wrong with this one. His growth was never stunted.
Gza still a beast
Holy shit man. Beneath The Surface is why I started rapping. Definitely didn’t see this artist being featured on your series, but glad to see him. Thanks for everything man.
GZA is the purest lyrics in the Wu-Tang Clan
“Beneath the Surface” song and album was amazing.
Legend of the Liquid Swords was great too, in the same vein of Stillmatic, simply naming an album similar to a 90s classic really helped a lot of 90s rappers, including Raekwon with cuban Linx 2.
I didn’t even watch the video because I don’t wanna think about how GZA fell off it isn’t really necessary.
Hip-hop is the only music genre that has an age limit
Nah The GZA is a legend
On a Man-made Lake there's a sheet of thin ice where unskilled skaters couldn't figure 8 twice - GZA
All I need is a beat on a continuous loop n a live vibe that can hypnotise like a flute 🎤
Forget "hit em up" because "paper plates" is greatest diss track of all time.🙌
GZA was never underrated. His album is one of the best albums in hip-hop history. You forget that the 90's wasn't really a longevity era, too many label politics. Technological restraints made the process of creating an album more of an art form. His 1st solo studio album was the Eiffel Tower. That's more than good enough.
Liquid Swords was his 2nd solo album.
Bruh “Liquid Swords” is Godly, your brothers failed you for not playing that for you. “Beneath the Surface “ was really really solid at that
Gza Has a better catalog than most rappers. All his albums bang.
"Why waste the slot time on a ridiculous rhyme/ That's only excused by a generous mind?"....
One of my all-time favorite bars.
The BLACK community will never consider this man stundet
GZA is one of the greatest ever lyricists for true purists his growth wasn't stunted.
Paper Plates, the 50 cent diss track, was a surgical demolishing of Curtis Jackson....Who agrees with me???????
Liquid Swords is in my top 5 of best 90s hip hop albums
Hardcore lyricists don’t get stunted. In order to go mainstream they have to give up their hardcore lyricism. Those who choose to remain lyrical don’t rise because the industry would require them to dilute their art.
the boy who cried wolf but no one was convinced • the man who hit the lotto , but lost his ticket • in a rain storm struck by lighting trying to get it
... NOPE.
Dude was, is, and remains a monster of a rapper.
From what is seem GZA is the realest WU member
Liquid Swords, my 1st hip hop album i ever bought with my own earned money....I was 11 at the time. Still have that original CD
The man that did "Queens Gambit" is stunnted.....WOW!🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️......
Ether is the best all-around diss of all-time, but Paper Plate is the most hard-hitting, direct and surgically crafted diss ever. He slaughtered Fif on that joint.
There was no crossover appeal to him.
Thats why the Cold Chillin album flopped.
He was too rugged for pop sounds.
"Come do me" was Right time, Wrong artist. Thats a Father MC track.
LMAO @ GZA trying to be a ladies' man.
I really got to disagree with The Gza being stunted he had a good career he put out numerous Albuns he had gold and platinum albums solo and with the clan he is one of the most popular members of the clan so to say he didn't reach his full potential in a sense but he by no means was stunted
Gotta love the GZA!
I was stationed with the GZA's late brother on the USS Nashville in Norfolk, Virginia in the early 2000s.
Instead of The Genius Wish You Could've Done Akinyele or Jus Allah From Jedi Mind Tricks ( Jus Could've Been The Hottest Underground Hip Hop Artist Yet He Never Achieved Such Question Is Why ?)
Yes I would like to see one for Akinyele he got some good features and some hit singles but faded
Inspecta Deck Never Took Off 😩😭😥💔
I dont think GZA's growth was stunted
GZA did exactly what he came in the game to do...RZA being a control freak kinda messed up the overall WU group trajectory but GZA played his part to the fullest...he might be underrated as an MC but many WU members are vastly underrated as solo MCs
"Sumtimes I feel like my lifes uh movie!! I don't like tha film!!" Thats my sh1t off Pro Tools....✌🏽😅❤ Tha GZA's been dope since Words frum tha Genius! ✊🏽😐❤
Do Asher Roth!!!!
Stunted? Wtf is on this guys biscuit? You better put some respect on the GZA name he's a living legend. Stunted lol you need to be slapped up for this one
Nothing stunted bout Gza the man put out Liquid swords arguably too 10 album of the 90s
GZA is the second best in the group Inspecta Deck is the best rapper in the group
Inspectah Deck definitely was better
aint nobody better than nobody, it’s the Wu.
@@lightskindisgrace son let's not pretend that Masta Killa is as equal as Ghostface
@@maximbelmont4641 I’m young, and I grew up on the Wu straight up ignoring Masta Killa’s verses and the last two months I went back & revisited the albums, hes way better than I thought, especially since he never wrote beforehand.
U God is another one a lot of people underrate cuz they only hear the first album, U God will probably be on here soon
No question! I bomb atomically
@@lightskindisgrace all the cats are talented but I just don't agree with the idea that they all equal. Yes they own have their own style.
He's not underrated. Growth wasn't stunted. What are we talking about?
As of recently, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon and Gza have did a tour as a trio called "3 Chambers"... Pretty dope.
Best lyricist? Maybe, Wu has so many can’t really say who’s best.
Anyone who underestimates the Gza is "weak, like clock radio speakers!"
My favorite Wu member!!
I was just listening to the Legend of Liquid Swords last week. GZA's problem was not having that stand out single. Granted Liquid Swords is classic but he just didn't stand out like the others. Deck and GZA were both the nicest out the Wu but their beat selection hurt him too.
Their beats were perfect period smh
I don't think MCs like the GZA were meant to be stars. Add the fact they have no desire to be stars and we have a serious MC's whose priority is just the core artform. Liquid Swords is still a prized listen Approaching 30 yrs since its release. Nothing stunted about that.
beneath the surfacewith killah priest is in my rotation to this day
My favorite member of Wu Tang. Inspectah Deck is the same class as GZA. If he would’ve released his first album early (thanks to the flood in RZA house) Inspectah Deck would’ve been super star like Raekawon, Method and Ghostface
Everyone knows GZA was nice and that Liquid Swords is a classic.
Deck is the underrated one, even Stunted Growth didn't mention him!
Y’all need to stop saying who shouldn’t be stunted and who doesn’t. I didn’t understand at first neither, but the point of these are, these artists should’ve been bigger than what they are.
The shit he did with dj muggs too sheeeesh str8 fire
"The GZA the Genius. We formed like Voltron and he the head"
This video is some hating bs. GZA isn't a commercial sellout. He kept it real and will always be respected for what he did and does.
Not forgetting he's a lecturer
Gza's worth 20 million and more or less retired from the music industry at 41. That puts him in a tiny group of like 200 rappers or less.
That's probably about what Method man is worth, but no one would say he was stunted.
Gza is A Master Swordsman A Shogun his students are platinum artist and very serious lyricist The Reason why The Wu is so lyrical Peace to The god
He never could recapture the magic of Liquid Swords
All his albums are good.
Peace to gza but Inspectah Deck was the Best lyricist in WUTANG Mr. Bomb Atomically
A nerd ( with all due respect) with impeccable rhyme skills will never have a stunted growth… in my humble opinion
"When Light skin was in"??? Really? What exactly did that have to do with GZA not becoming a bigger artist than he was? lol
GZA didn't blow up, because he was far too complex of an emcee. Plus, his beat picking skills faltered after 'Liquid Swords'. He's one of the greatest emcees ever, easily. But, greatness doesn't always gather superstardom. Enjoyed the video, nonetheless.
Stunted growth nah bro 💯
I know this got thumps down
"Stunted Growth Music" is the wrong choice of words for your channel. Especially when you're describing artists like GZA, AZ, etc. Stunted means having been prevented from growing or developing properly. Just because you decide to take a different path then what the "masses" want, it doesn't mean you're not growing or developing properly.
The GZA is the first emcee that I can honestly say I related to directly. I didn't care too much about the popular flashy music in the 90's, so Liquid Swords was right up my alley. His lyrics make you dive deep into each verse in order to fully understand and appreciate the where he's coming from with his subject matter. I do agree that he deserved to have more support for his albums when it came to record sales, but I loved the fact that he was about the power of lyrics and not about watering down his product in order to be popular. I HATE that fact that I don't hear people talk about his joint album with DJ Muggs "Grandmasters".
"Welcome to the Jungle where the cat loves to scratch
The rat squeals
And the polar bear feasts on the blubber of seals
The pack of wolves be scheming on a bunch of gazelles
Here the leopards grab the wilderbeast down by it's tail
You see the chimps they grow hips they hustle and sling in trees
Elephants for security that move tons of leaves
The bluebirds arrest parrots that love to talk
Or eagles that stalk fresh-water trout under the wing of the hawk" - GZA
For me had he Gza been able to be himself in 1991 he cudda had a Classic Album and in his 3rd Album Beneath the Surface he shudda got Production from Pete Rock & DJ Premier and had Collaborations with the likes of Nas