Regarding the FFB strength usage and the Nm itself, Stronger bases like 16/21 allow you to drive at higher FFB strength without loosing details or causing the FFB to clip....that's why you have bases with those power outputs
That price is honestly very tempting! Btw in Beamng, check your controls and see if you have only one steering axis binding while your wheel is plugged in. I know if I play with a controller and switch to my wheel, the game interprets the wheel steering AND the thumbstick control left over from my gamepad, and it makes that annoying shaking in the wheel you're experiencing because it's basically duplicated the steering inputs. I'm curious if that fixes your problem!
Unlikely. Beamng had a death wobble in all of the cars for years that only went away for me after the latest update. There are still a handful of older cars that still do the death wobble.
the higher FFB moza bases are really nice for circuit racing and stuff, I have an R9 but find myself turning down the feedback a bit when drifting so I don't rip my shoulders out of my sockets
I currently have an R5 and i enjoy it. I keep putting the R9 in my cart. But dont know if its worth it. I usually drift and rally. So seeing your comment is helpful both perspectively and financially lol
@@3.1415Ds yeah I absolutely adore the higher FFB during rally stages. No regrets whatsoever in that sense. And honestly slowly as I improved at drifting I increased the ffb on the more realistic handling cars (I only really do AC drifting). I still don't run it at 100% most of the time, but I think theres a sweet spot on most of the cars I drift around 7-8NM when im in the zone and really feeling how the car will move. But the value of r5 to r9 may not be so great, unless you're sure you can find a buyer at a good price for the r5
wow this is great. i was thinking of getting dd wheel but i wasn't sure due to moza's shipping prices.. but well assuming this one is cheaper too yeah may as well do that eventually. happy there is more options now for this type of stuff it's great.
moza has a small program included with their drivers now for forza compatibility, basically aggregates all your dispositives into one vjoy device I think (forza emuwheel)
Kinda regretting now for buying the T300RS (in a rush) and not waiting for the Moza R3. T300RS is a good wheel tho don't get me wrong, but for the same price range, you get a direct drive wheel, i'ts really great value for money.
@odahvi1216 yea they are just out of stock because of how fast they selled out I have been trying to find info when they will be in stock again some people said this month April I'm waiting as well to get it
The 3rd Car... VF SS... That's the same as my car! LS3 6.2ltr V8 and T56 6 speed Manual (both Corvette parts). It's possibly the best Sedan ever made here in Australia. And it really feels like it's made for the Adelaide Hills. This is the 7th day in a row watching your videos. Subscribed! Love your style mate
the game had changed (for PC players at least). Moza made a new R3 bundle without the Xbox compatibility and brought the cost down even more to just $299, pretty much the same as the G29 bundle
@Goosiest IMAGINE R21 AT YOUR DESK ON 100% FORCE FEEDBACK AND YOU CRASH IN THE AC SHUTOKU MAP. IF YOU HOLD THE R21 BEFORE CRASHING AND NOT GETTING YOUR HANDS OF THE WHEEL, UR GOING TO FLY RIGHT OUT OF YOUR WINDOW😂
Moza is changing the game its awesome i love my R5 it slaughters my g29 and any belt dive out there i highly recommend the moza R5 and Fanatec csl dd but rmoza has better build quality and same same performance pretty much no plastic just metal and a WAY nicr quick release is nice period so glad i chose moza
i went with the fanatec tbh, the ecosystem of all the parts, the prices for wheels and accessories, fanatecs tuning menu and the native wheel support in games can't be overlooked. They're both at a great price and i can get the boost pack whenever too add that little bit more feel if i need to. In the end, the customer always wins with competition
@@andrewdeer6836 I think theyre both amazing and while im saving up for a DD (ultimately my first wheel) I cant help but be torn at which to get. On one hand Fanatec is doing great but its like theyre still in the 90's with their logistical and manufacturing issues. They have HUGE logistical and manufacturing issues to the point where I was going to end up going with moza. Fanatecs Issues: Bunch of boxes for one setup. Horrible if you're expecting to get all your stuff in time or if you live in a neighborhood that isn't great (where people will see a bunch of big boxes being deliver to your place. + too many stories of everything gets delivered except for the QR system that somehow got lost and is delayed 2 weeks to a month making the whole thing unplayable Which the QR....almost as egregious as Logitechs wheel prices. They are now phasing out QR1 but in the implementation of the QR2 they are charging a fairly premium price to roll out the Q2s. For example: If I wanted to buy the 5nm csl dd bundle on a budget as in, buy it lower the torque until I can afford proper rig and buy the cheapest QR and lower torque to like 2.2 to reduce shaft flex then I literally cannot do that because you dont have the option to get the free QR1 lites that came with the bundle. Today on 10/24 if you want to get a csl dd bundle you will HAVE to basically buy the QR2 system for an additional 110 at the least (or was it like 150 to get both pieces I forget). Which means that even though the cheapest csl dd bundle is being marketed for 400 without the boost kit it is actually 500 to get the most updated QR system. Of course you can buy the QR1 metal piece but....like why would you do that you might as well bite the bullet and go for the one that will overfall fix the biggest issues with this bundle which is the flex that can ultimately lead to the failure of the device. With that being said I'm still going fanatec. and Thats because of ALL of those IMMENSE issues going on with the lower end CSL DD bundles it still doesnt have the one major dealbreaking issue that moza has right now Mozas issues: Overheating of the motor.....lol mb kind of a long reply but I've been doing so much research on these products lately and felt like nerding out especially if people might be torn between the moza and fanatec
I've been looking for wheels to get, so that might be a good option to get once I have the money though. Also I love your video's, very fun and entertaining
@Goosiest btw i bought the moza R12 last week and I’m not even using half of the power what it has. I shouldn’t buy moza r12. I should bought the moza racing r3 or r5.
While racing I've noticed i'll turn my FFB up, drifting i'll lower it a lot so I don't have to fight the wheel soo much. Makes it easier to correct my line. Using the 8nm CSL DD.
Bro the CarX Lag is kind of random because CarX is such a Popular Game Its gotta have to fix the "Lag" issue. They Clearly have to step it up a notch because users/people cannot play with this much lag and its also so random like your in a tandem and lag happens than you crash to eachother it just ruins the tandem and also whn you said 'No Lag' then your game lagged its almost like the game heard you lol. Cool video!
When o saw this video on my fyp I thought it was like 3 days ago or something but I watched a video on goosiest from 3 days ago and the video was amazing btw👌💯
On Fanatec's Direct Drive wheel there is a slider in the software called FFI Force Feedback Intensity. Drop that by 10% and 90% of what I don't like about BeamNG on a wheel goes away.
So the reason to get a higher powered wheel is higher dynamic range. Meaning far more detail. A r9 will feel better than the r5 when set at 5nm because it has 4 extra nm and thus causes the r9 to have a higher dynamic range when detecting frequencies related to Force feedback than the r5. So im planning on a R12. SRP loadcell pedals, KS wheel and CSv2 wheel. With my curent thrustmaster TH8a shifter and handbrake. I will only ever use 3 to 6nm when drifting. But racing or rally i will be using 10 to 12nm. Those forces are a different game when racing and not drifting.
I think i might be able to help setup your r9 for forza because mine works and i got the same steering wheel too. Kind of a bummer that direct drive support is horrible in games like the crew 2
Moza R3 is probably what I am getting next once I master my skills, just got a G920, first time driving with a wheel too, got a long road ahead, I am a pretty weak person so 2.1nm is already heavy imagine almost 4nm in a DD wheel haha…
Unless I see their R5 bundle for a good price, I think I found my first steering wheel 😂 I’ll mainly use it for BeamNG and Dirt but man I can’t wait to finally have a setup for streaming.
HEY GOOSE! i know you my not answer this, but, i got a g29 a while ago, absolutely hated it btw, worst mistake of my life trying to get into sim racing with a g29. So, say i have a 1,000 dollar total budget and want to get into sim drifting. What wheel, pedals, and shifter would you recommend? LMK if you can, thanks goose! EDIT: i have an ebay handbrake, but its meh, so maybe if there is some space in the budget you give me, throw a good handbrake in. EDIT 2, I plan on playing forza, WRC 10, beamg, and carx with the wheel. EDIT 3: I have a thinner table, so... if that effects anything lmfao.
I got the G27 (it's manual and comes with 3 pedals etc) for less than half the price of the R3. Only thing is i got it used but i got mine in peak condition, nothing was wrong with it whatsoever. it was about $120 and i got a free Xbox & PS4 USB converter with it
My Fanatec CSL DD (5Nm) just don´t re-center not fast enough or even just doesn´t do it (Forza 8 and AC) i used recommended AC settings (force feedback scale on AC is 75% and 100% on Forza)
They fixed the g29 on pc I was playing CarX for the first time on pc because I just got one I came from a ps4 and it isn’t pound or clunky at all it is almost silent. And it is quite smooth.
Mr.Goosiet you Have Hit Over One Million Subs. I think it's time to your Budget Car. Almost All RUclipsr that are sim drifter or racer Have A budget Car Like Chris Fix And Car Mighty Maitia. PLease Think About It.
What you do with the thrust master i only ask cause im still learning how to play carx but my pc wheel wont work on my ps4 so stuck with a controller and i suck cant tandom and i drift too fast
cant u just take the ebay shifter and put the clamp on the other side and clamp it so its like the clamp is behind and the shifter is torwards u im pretty sure it will stand much much closer than the thrustmaster shifter, if u do that u can combine it with the new budget wheel maybe a next video idea?
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Regarding the FFB strength usage and the Nm itself, Stronger bases like 16/21 allow you to drive at higher FFB strength without loosing details or causing the FFB to clip....that's why you have bases with those power outputs
Fair enough
It's unbelievable that it's so small but it's more powerful than the Thrustmaster T300!
yup...
TRUEE!@@Goosiest
Its just as powerfull
Actually T300 has 4 NM and it's older
no 3.9@@opetrtv9321
That price is honestly very tempting! Btw in Beamng, check your controls and see if you have only one steering axis binding while your wheel is plugged in. I know if I play with a controller and switch to my wheel, the game interprets the wheel steering AND the thumbstick control left over from my gamepad, and it makes that annoying shaking in the wheel you're experiencing because it's basically duplicated the steering inputs. I'm curious if that fixes your problem!
Unlikely. Beamng had a death wobble in all of the cars for years that only went away for me after the latest update. There are still a handful of older cars that still do the death wobble.
So thats why my stering sometimes just go left when using stering Wheel
the higher FFB moza bases are really nice for circuit racing and stuff, I have an R9 but find myself turning down the feedback a bit when drifting so I don't rip my shoulders out of my sockets
I currently have an R5 and i enjoy it. I keep putting the R9 in my cart. But dont know if its worth it. I usually drift and rally. So seeing your comment is helpful both perspectively and financially lol
@@3.1415Ds yeah I absolutely adore the higher FFB during rally stages. No regrets whatsoever in that sense. And honestly slowly as I improved at drifting I increased the ffb on the more realistic handling cars (I only really do AC drifting). I still don't run it at 100% most of the time, but I think theres a sweet spot on most of the cars I drift around 7-8NM when im in the zone and really feeling how the car will move. But the value of r5 to r9 may not be so great, unless you're sure you can find a buyer at a good price for the r5
Yoo goosiest, because of you I've wanted to get into sim racing/drifting in assetto corsa, keep up the great work man!
That is a beautiful wheel, I only hope more games start to support these
That wheel is the pure definition of a compact and perfect wheel❤
But not a good deal
Way too weak
@@RukaGoldhearthigh nm is pointless besides risking your wrists when you crash the car. you absolutely don't need more for steering even in drifting.
@@RukaGoldheartI just bought one and it’s surprisingly strong
wow this is great. i was thinking of getting dd wheel but i wasn't sure due to moza's shipping prices.. but well assuming this one is cheaper too yeah may as well do that eventually. happy there is more options now for this type of stuff it's great.
Thanks for your contribution to budget wheels and testing!!
moza has a small program included with their drivers now for forza compatibility, basically aggregates all your dispositives into one vjoy device I think (forza emuwheel)
Settings on carx and for the r3 would be a lifesaver. I’m so frustrated with not knowing/ getting so many different opinion on RUclips
Goosiest never disappoints us by hes LOVING VIDS 🥰🥰🥰
Yep
Goosiest!! I have been a fan of you since 500k subs, i love your vids im actually sim drifting and racing because of u i have a pxn v9
Kinda regretting now for buying the T300RS (in a rush) and not waiting for the Moza R3. T300RS is a good wheel tho don't get me wrong, but for the same price range, you get a direct drive wheel, i'ts really great value for money.
And you save a ton of desk space
is the R3 out yet or what? I'm looking at it on the website and there's no option for me to buy it.
@odahvi1216 yea they are just out of stock because of how fast they selled out I have been trying to find info when they will be in stock again some people said this month April I'm waiting as well to get it
The 3rd Car... VF SS... That's the same as my car!
LS3 6.2ltr V8 and T56 6 speed Manual (both Corvette parts).
It's possibly the best Sedan ever made here in Australia.
And it really feels like it's made for the Adelaide Hills.
This is the 7th day in a row watching your videos.
Subscribed!
Love your style mate
Pls drift irl
That would be insane
@@AyoSharkyyeah
He already has but he just hasn’t recorded it
the game had changed (for PC players at least). Moza made a new R3 bundle without the Xbox compatibility and brought the cost down even more to just $299, pretty much the same as the G29 bundle
@Goosiest IMAGINE R21 AT YOUR DESK ON 100% FORCE FEEDBACK AND YOU CRASH IN THE AC SHUTOKU MAP. IF YOU HOLD THE R21 BEFORE CRASHING AND NOT GETTING YOUR HANDS OF THE WHEEL, UR GOING TO FLY RIGHT OUT OF YOUR WINDOW😂
Goose you should make a compilation of carx servers lag
Moza is changing the game its awesome i love my R5 it slaughters my g29 and any belt dive out there i highly recommend the moza R5 and Fanatec csl dd but rmoza has better build quality and same same performance pretty much no plastic just metal and a WAY nicr quick release is nice period so glad i chose moza
i went with the fanatec tbh, the ecosystem of all the parts, the prices for wheels and accessories, fanatecs tuning menu and the native wheel support in games can't be overlooked. They're both at a great price and i can get the boost pack whenever too add that little bit more feel if i need to. In the end, the customer always wins with competition
@@andrewdeer6836 I think theyre both amazing and while im saving up for a DD (ultimately my first wheel) I cant help but be torn at which to get. On one hand Fanatec is doing great but its like theyre still in the 90's with their logistical and manufacturing issues. They have HUGE logistical and manufacturing issues to the point where I was going to end up going with moza.
Fanatecs Issues:
Bunch of boxes for one setup. Horrible if you're expecting to get all your stuff in time or if you live in a neighborhood that isn't great (where people will see a bunch of big boxes being deliver to your place. + too many stories of everything gets delivered except for the QR system that somehow got lost and is delayed 2 weeks to a month making the whole thing unplayable
Which the QR....almost as egregious as Logitechs wheel prices. They are now phasing out QR1 but in the implementation of the QR2 they are charging a fairly premium price to roll out the Q2s. For example: If I wanted to buy the 5nm csl dd bundle on a budget as in, buy it lower the torque until I can afford proper rig and buy the cheapest QR and lower torque to like 2.2 to reduce shaft flex then I literally cannot do that because you dont have the option to get the free QR1 lites that came with the bundle. Today on 10/24 if you want to get a csl dd bundle you will HAVE to basically buy the QR2 system for an additional 110 at the least (or was it like 150 to get both pieces I forget). Which means that even though the cheapest csl dd bundle is being marketed for 400 without the boost kit it is actually 500 to get the most updated QR system. Of course you can buy the QR1 metal piece but....like why would you do that you might as well bite the bullet and go for the one that will overfall fix the biggest issues with this bundle which is the flex that can ultimately lead to the failure of the device.
With that being said I'm still going fanatec. and Thats because of ALL of those IMMENSE issues going on with the lower end CSL DD bundles it still doesnt have the one major dealbreaking issue that moza has right now
Mozas issues:
Overheating of the motor.....lol
mb kind of a long reply but I've been doing so much research on these products lately and felt like nerding out especially if people might be torn between the moza and fanatec
Hi goose. Wait this video is so helpful I actually want to get into this stuff but I don’t want to spend way to much money
I've been looking for wheels to get, so that might be a good option to get once I have the money though.
Also I love your video's, very fun and entertaining
Good luck!
@Goosiest btw i bought the moza R12 last week and I’m not even using half of the power what it has. I shouldn’t buy moza r12. I should bought the moza racing r3 or r5.
i think the r3 is for normal steering and the r21 if you want to train your arms
3:23 you jynx yourself lol❤
While racing I've noticed i'll turn my FFB up, drifting i'll lower it a lot so I don't have to fight the wheel soo much. Makes it easier to correct my line. Using the 8nm CSL DD.
Bro the CarX Lag is kind of random because CarX is such a Popular Game Its gotta have to fix the "Lag" issue. They Clearly have to step it up a notch because users/people cannot play with this much lag and its also so random like your in a tandem and lag happens than you crash to eachother it just ruins the tandem and also whn you said 'No Lag' then your game lagged its almost like the game heard you lol. Cool video!
GOOSIEST NUMBER 1 SIM DRIVER
ALWAYS!
@@Goosiest Drifter
Great vídeo! I m from Brazil and subscribe your channel, i Love your videos. CONGRATULATIONS for you great work. ❤
Hopefully they make a pc and playstation budget wheel soon, thats the 1 i want
When o saw this video on my fyp I thought it was like 3 days ago or something but I watched a video on goosiest from 3 days ago and the video was amazing btw👌💯
Isn't the CSL DD cheaper and more powerfull, I mean 5Nm, up to 8Nm? I know, that the pedals are more expensive tho!
have not tried it yet
Moza R3=World's Cutest DD wheelbase.
The r3 gives the illusion of being tiny, great video though!
On Fanatec's Direct Drive wheel there is a slider in the software called FFI Force Feedback Intensity. Drop that by 10% and 90% of what I don't like about BeamNG on a wheel goes away.
@6:39 oh man! Goosiest just witnessed a Four car crashed! R.I.P racers ➕
Gooisiest is the king of drifting
7:28 broo, why i laughed for this xD
I love your vids your my favorite youtuber. You got me into CarX
Did anyone notice the song “The Chase” by Basix started playing as soon as he said “time for me to chase”
So the reason to get a higher powered wheel is higher dynamic range. Meaning far more detail. A r9 will feel better than the r5 when set at 5nm because it has 4 extra nm and thus causes the r9 to have a higher dynamic range when detecting frequencies related to Force feedback than the r5. So im planning on a R12. SRP loadcell pedals, KS wheel and CSv2 wheel. With my curent thrustmaster TH8a shifter and handbrake. I will only ever use 3 to 6nm when drifting. But racing or rally i will be using 10 to 12nm. Those forces are a different game when racing and not drifting.
Your my favorite drift youtuber, You inspired me to get a wheel and to try and start drifting ( im getting the wheel soon)
YOO TYSM GOOSE
there is no way goosiest just replied.
hearted*
i hope i get my wheel soon though.
I think i might be able to help setup your r9 for forza because mine works and i got the same steering wheel too. Kind of a bummer that direct drive support is horrible in games like the crew 2
bro is the best youtuber rn i love your videos!!! keep it up
Blud really said “Budget” with $399 on the screen 💀
For a dd it is the cheapest your gonna get
$399 is cheap for a DD. back then they were way more
2:12 Tenrifle diasaster recreated
i love goose man video👍😎
Great video! I have an Xbox Wheel but no Handbrake or Shifter and only two pedals. But good for £120
Fair enough!
@@Goosiest I may send you a picture if possible
This is awesome! Keep spirit Goosiest buddy 😊😊😁😁
Thanks! Will do!
Moza R3 is probably what I am getting next once I master my skills, just got a G920, first time driving with a wheel too, got a long road ahead, I am a pretty weak person so 2.1nm is already heavy imagine almost 4nm in a DD wheel haha…
2:49 is WILD 💀
Gooseiest why you dont use outro?
BTW Big Fan❤️❤️
Unless I see their R5 bundle for a good price, I think I found my first steering wheel 😂
I’ll mainly use it for BeamNG and Dirt but man I can’t wait to finally have a setup for streaming.
Good video as always keep it up❤️
your my fav RUclipsr
Goose drifting irl? YES PLS!!
That 2 pedal setup will be usefull in two thing: Formula and Gt racing
technically you still need the clutch for starting the race
@@polar_inertia in real life formulas does have only 2 pedals
congratulations man
its a good day when goosiest pose a vid😄😄
goosiest you must make a video where you do clean drifting no talking.
Still waiting for E36 drift project IRL
Why are you still using Thrustmaster? Don't you have a Moza R12?
Hey goosiest. I’m just getting into racing and driving games, is there any like budget wheel that can also be realistic at the same time. Thx 🙏🏻
HEY GOOSE! i know you my not answer this, but, i got a g29 a while ago, absolutely hated it btw, worst mistake of my life trying to get into sim racing with a g29. So, say i have a 1,000 dollar total budget and want to get into sim drifting. What wheel, pedals, and shifter would you recommend? LMK if you can, thanks goose! EDIT: i have an ebay handbrake, but its meh, so maybe if there is some space in the budget you give me, throw a good handbrake in. EDIT 2, I plan on playing forza, WRC 10, beamg, and carx with the wheel. EDIT 3: I have a thinner table, so... if that effects anything lmfao.
*me watching goosiest having the best gaming setup ever while my setup is an iPad*
I got the G27 (it's manual and comes with 3 pedals etc) for less than half the price of the R3. Only thing is i got it used but i got mine in peak condition, nothing was wrong with it whatsoever. it was about $120 and i got a free Xbox & PS4 USB converter with it
Lets appreciate goosiest work❤❤❤❤❤ keep it up
I like your channel❤❤❤your funny😂😂😂
Talented and nice❤❤❤❤❤🎉
try driving force gt and use ur tune that u made with a carx pro (its sooooo smooth)
My Fanatec CSL DD (5Nm) just don´t re-center not fast enough or even just doesn´t do it (Forza 8 and AC) i used recommended AC settings (force feedback scale on AC is 75% and 100% on Forza)
Goose you really said the magic word [ No Lag ]
Goosiest whats the name of that track you were drifting in AC?
Thank u so much for the tip abt moza when I used g29 i kept spun out bc when u use the G29 with force feedback it shakes way to much
You are the best RUclipsr in the whole World❤❤❤❤
THIS IS HUGE!! I might be getting this wheel now! 😆
That boy in the asseto Is represents the Czech Republic❤❤❤
I think it would be cool if u tried some rally games like dirt rally 2.0 or wrc generations
They fixed the g29 on pc I was playing CarX for the first time on pc because I just got one I came from a ps4 and it isn’t pound or clunky at all it is almost silent. And it is quite smooth.
pro sim drifter number 3
I think I found a wheel for when I get my first of setup !!
Mr.Goosiet you Have Hit Over One Million Subs. I think it's time to your Budget Car. Almost All RUclipsr that are sim drifter or racer Have A budget Car Like Chris Fix And Car Mighty Maitia. PLease Think About It.
Do you have to use Moza’s pedals, or can you use another brand?
Its kinda funny how you get sent a bunch of wheels but continue to use the t300
Question for gossiest: Why do u love drifting (Answer my Question gossiest)
Is fun
Thx ☺️
In Los Angeles some people also call it the R Tree.
So goose for moza r3 whole setup including clutch shifter steering wheel and cables.
Overall how much it cost
goosiest u should attempt to make a project car out of the BMW E36 it would be really gud content
can you make a wheel shifter handbrake 3 pedals recommendation video dude please
Another good vid goose keep it up =)
Thanks! 😁
@@Goosiesthello goose :)
@@GoosiestLove ur content ❤
7:24 same 😂
What you do with the thrust master i only ask cause im still learning how to play carx but my pc wheel wont work on my ps4 so stuck with a controller and i suck cant tandom and i drift too fast
I'm so happy
cant u just take the ebay shifter and put the clamp on the other side and clamp it so its like the clamp is behind and the shifter is torwards u im pretty sure it will stand much much closer than the thrustmaster shifter, if u do that u can combine it with the new budget wheel maybe a next video idea?
Hmm
Awesome video as always
Kristaps old car bribgs back memories
Nice one bro 👌 👍🏻 👏🏾
Hey goose you are my favourite RUclipsr keep up the good work
Hey, thanks!
No problem
Goose when you play Forza, can you add a post on the multiplayer?
Hey goosiest love your videos but i have a question does a clamp for the base come too?
No
YOOO! My PXN V10 wheel i bought was absolute trash and broke at the 3rd week. some time later i might buy this wheel!
Goosiest you can get a fanatec csl bundle at that price I think