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5 Reasons the .300 Win Mag Rules the Roost
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- The .300 Winchester Magnum is a belted, bottlenecked magnum rifle cartridge manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Introduced in 1963, it is also known as the .300 Win Mag or the .300 WM, and was designed to fit in a standard rifle action. It is based on the .375 H&H Magnum, which has been blown out, shortened, and necked down to accept a .30 caliber (7.82 mm) bullet.
Despite being surpassed in performance by a handful of more powerful 30 caliber rifle cartridges like the .300 Weatherby Magnum, the .30 378 Weatherby Magnum, the .300 Remington Ultra Mag, the .300 Norma Magnum, the .30 Nosler, and the .300 PRC, the .300 Win Mag remains the most popular .30 caliber magnum with American hunters
Here are the top 5 reasons why the .300 Win. Mag. is still one of the best 30 caliber magnum rifle cartridges in the market today.
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.300 WM has been my go to rifle for nearly 20 years. I love it. Though the past few years I have been amazed by some of the newer calibers I will always choose my .300 if I have any doubts in the newer calibers
Well, in 30 cal, ammo availability is#1 308, #2 30-06, #3 300WM. All of the others almost imposible to find. And they are not catching up to the 300WM. 300 PRC,30 Nosler,300 Wby, 300 RUM. The 300 WSM easier to find. No need to look elswere.👍 I have a old 1917 US Enfield that needs rebarelling(But it will be in 35 Whelen) and a project to use a cheap used 300 Weatherby rifle to rebarrel to 300 WM. Then I can use the long 30 cal bullets to make 300PRC performace using the 300WM
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@WillyK51
After 30 yrs of shooting 300 mag I've found it don't kill elk or moose amy quicker or deader tham an 06 and preserved the shoulder much better as well.
Just a fantastic fun round to shoot and knowing you have the stopping power to do the job right the first time !!!
The 2 cartridges, that fill every need are, far better than any cartridge since.
The 300 Win Mag, for the large game.
The 6.5 X 55 for everything else.
The 338 Win Mag is better than the 300 Win Mag, and the 270 is miles ahead of the 6.5x55.
I got my first 300 win mag in 1998 and still my favorite one to use for everything.
I have to say its my go to. Never failed me. Mine is a 1903 Springfield custom build. It truly is a tack driver
I like my 300 win mag for elk hunting . It gets the job done very well .
I still prefer 30-06 for anything inside of 300 yards, but will use my 300 win mag for longer distance on big game.
How much energy at 500 yds do you need to kill an elk at 500 yds ?
Even Most hunting guides would say roughly between 1250-1500 ft lbs. The 30 -06 loaded with 210 grain ablr bullets generates far more than that
At 2600 fps has 1748 ft lbs of energy at 600 yds
How much do you think it has at 500 yds almost 2000 ft lbs of energy
@@jamiehurtt3530 Just a rule of thumb that I've followed over the years.
@@jamiehurtt3530 some people don't know how to handle the bullet drop or truly know the rifle they shoot so they think needing a larger caliber is the way to go. I've taken moose at 670 yards with 30 06 just fine.
@762GhosT0
Why use a 300 magnum after 300 yds when today's modern 30-06 loads are producing up to 1900 ft lbs of energy at 600 yds?t Even a 300 magnum bullet begins to drop
After 300 yds .as well and the 30-06 doesn't drop that much more at 400 500 and 600 yds. To be honest.
So to take a shot at 500vyds with a 300 mag you still have to understand hold over.regaedless.and if someone doesn't can't comprehend a simple ballistic hold over reticle they have no business hunting with that rifle in the woods because a child could master it.
And bullet drop means very little at 500 yds between a 30-06 and a 300 magnum.that just means a 300 winchester magnums ballistic hold over reticle marks are just a little closer together than a 30-06 hold over marks in your scope.so looking through a scope and the differences between both reticles is virtually unnoticeable.
I like the 300 magnum but I'm using it much less today because I believe the advantages are negligible and don't kill big game any quicker.
What kills big game is choosing a properly constructed bullet and accuracy and I am more accurate with a rifle that kicks less .
@@jamiehurtt3530 personally i use .308 for 500 and less.
My old Parker Hale model 1200 in 300 Win Mag is amazing. I reload with H1000, Nosler Partition 180gr, Federal brass and Federal magnum primers. Never lost a moose yet.
A couple video flaws: 30 cal is 7.62 and, Sable are smaller than housecats there wouldn't be anything left if a 300WM hit it
There will be, A hunting 30 cal bullet will punch trough without expanding. Got myself some snow hares with my 30-06 while deer hunting. Didn't pick up pieces
My alaskan 3006 with my 168 accLR at 2950 does the same thing,no belt and with 57.2 gr
The 300 WM will do that velocity with a 190 gr ABLR. Higher BC, less drift, and substantially more energy at range
@@strat1080 while thats true, most people are not shooting at game past 500, so functionally, it doesn't matter. one of those 168's in the bread basket at 600 yards is a dead elk.
@@hotramen5952 and the 190 has better sectional density and a lot more energy to get through a shoulder if you don’t have a great shot presentation or your POI is off a bit. I like that little extra insurance the 300 gives you. I think 600 yards is stretching it a bit for the old ought six.
There isn't any kind of game that hasn't been taken with a 30-06. If K. Bell shot 800 Elephants with a 275 Rigsby(7x57 Mauser) guess T-Rex could be game for the 30-06. Yet on Jurasic a Marlin 45-70 was the choice🦖🤣. My all arround 30-06 is 165 Grns. For something bigger a 180. Hit right they don't go away with either.👍By the way that old 1917 US Enfield will be rebarreled for 35 Whelen next year, And a 7 MM for a lighter rifle for grandson(280 AI, 7RM or loaded down 28 Nosler, still munching on which)
And I can push the 190 close to 2700 in my 308 which doesn't sound like much, however 308 does this with substantially less recoil and almost 20mm shorter case compared to the 300wm
I'm going to get a used 300 Weatherby(about $500 or $700 New) and rebarell(About $600) to 300 Win Mag. Simple 300 PRC ballistics, Plenty afordable Ammo, Cases, Seat out the long or heavy bullets. No mods to bolt face or magazine
That's an interesting take. Why wouldn't you just keep it as a 300Wby? Cost of ammo? If you're going to rebarrel it to seat longer bullets and are concerned with the box length, you may also consider a magnum length 700 or 70 action.
I know, Personally my action choice would be a Controlled round feed SS, But M70 or Others(Montana-Kimber) a bit pricy. And I have a 30-06 that I can push into the 3000Fps, But that old 1917 US Enfield will get a 35 Whelen barrel soon(Have to take a caliper to the magazine and check if it will hold a Mag lengh cartridge) The idea is a 7mm Rem Mag in a Mag action(to maximise the heavier bullets performace, equal to the 7PRC)(Used rifle market for a 7STW or 7RUM). Lighter than ussual for Me and grandson. It's fun to come up with your Cheap dream rifle build. Could buy a Ultralight Savage 28 Nosler for 1.2 -1.5K. A Win M70 SS my dream gun. Might stumble on one and just leave it as is. BUT🤣🤔@@jk-kr8jt
220gr round nose 😮😅😊
Chick got rocked at 311 lol such a beautiful rifle
The .300 WM with 200g soft point boat tail has a superior ballistic coefficient and sectional density. With the additional case capacity and extra powder, it becomes a supremely accurate long range hunting rifle with maximum retained energy and velocity. Characteristics simply not available to smaller calibers and cartridges.
The 300 magnum shoots the same exact bullet as the 30-06 .308 diameter and only about 300fps faster .with substantially more recoil.
How much energy is needed to kill an elk at 500 yds ?
Most guides would say 1500+ and the 06 produces up to 1900 ft lbs with the right bullet and load at 600y yds. Many are not aware of its true capabilitoes they just see the word magnum stamped on a cartrige and are instantly sold
Just exactly which 200 grain soft point boat tail bullet with the superior bc are you speaking of?
@@jamiehurtt3530 Match King. The bullet used to win the Wimbledon Cup 1,000yd. in 7mm at Camp Perry, 1970. The Game King is similar in bc with high sd. Smaller calibers don't have the sd and are at an inherent disadvantage for long range hunting, maybe except for 7mm.
@@johnj5985
And the 300 h&h mag won the 1000 yd Wimbledon in 1935
@@johnj5985 sorry but match king and gameking aren't even I'm the same class as the nosler accubomd
Long range bonded hunting bullet
Heres the biggest reason it dont rule the roost .
Ecessive recoil 😅 and slower follow up shots
And It don kill deer elk or moose etc amy quicker at ethical hunting distamxes out to 500 yds than a 30-06 😅
You can load or buy off the shelf loads that bury most all regular loads of 300 with an 06 and have a lighter, less kick more accessible rifle. Its barrel life is worlds ahead of the 300 and with a controlled expansion ballistic Tip boat tail will smoke the 300 Win ie the 3006 rules.
Name just one that does this.
@@jk-kr8jt Past 100 yds 178 grain ElDX and Hornady High Performance 180 boattail SST Tip
Im talking against the standard like soft point 300 win it's not rocket science.
Off 180 grain Corelokt Tipped. 180 Grain Copper Impact Win. Most all Barnes all copper 180s.
@@charleshuyck6641 Charles, you have to compare apples to apples. To compare the two with different bullets is simply dishonest. Load the same bullet in the two cartridges at max loads and the 300 Win will always outpace the 30-06. With the same bullet the slower bullet can never over take the faster one. Is the extra speed of a 300 needed versus the 30-06? In most hunting situations the game will never know. But please let's keep the comparisons honest.
I always wondered 🤔 what is the difference between 300win mag and 300win short mag??
Case length one is lomg action the other is short action
Ballistically pretty much the same
Both shoot the same exact .308 diameter bullet
So..they both have the amount of of push,,,in the long run!? Thank you for your time!,
@@jeff0nyschuk670
Yep
Balistique pratiquement identique c’était marketing commercial juste avant la crise, très dur à trouver en Europe et plus utile.
What's a " cawtwidge"? And it's not rimless, it's a belted cartridge.
7.62
7.82 is correct, 7.62 is bore diameter and 7.82 is groove diameter. In America we use groove diameter. The video is right if you really know your guns.
Funny. Wondered how many caught that.
It’s a great cartridge, there’s no doubt about that. But realistically it won’t do anything that a host of other cartridges won’t do just as well. Ballistically it’s no better than the ancient 300 H&H (with hand loads, not factory ammo) , and it won’t compete with my 8mm Remington magnum, which is better with a 220gr Sierra than the 300 Win is with any 200.
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It’s popular because it’s cheap and readily available compared to other 30 magnums. Factory ammo is anemic though, I’ll take my 300wby any day with a load of 3115fps with a 195gr
I own allot of Rifle and the 300 Wby mag cartridge I have 2 rifles now in 300 Wby.
The worst rifles I've owned in 300 Wby mag have been a Remington 700 during the time Remington quality went down the crapper.
3 Weatherby Mark 5 rifles have been so lousy made and one with the chamber bored off center .
I was given a commercial Mauser 98 with a new Shelin barrel in 300 Win mag I took to have chambered in 300 Wby mag .
The crappy Weatherby mark 5 rifle I have with the chamber off center will get a new Pac nor barrel in the future in 8 mm RUM a wildcat cartridge.
Both the 300 win mag and 300 Wby mag are supper great 30 cal magnums.
So I understand the liking for the 300 Wby mag you have.
@Lure-Benson
unnecessary powder case capacity with negligible advantage over 300 win mag .only wears barrel throats out in short order and dont kill big game any quicker. scary high ammo prices and low commercial ammo availability here in ak no thank you .
I'll stick with a standard 300 win mag or 06
@@jamiehurtt3530 kills game much farther… unnecessary and negligible? lol that was my light load… I’m getting 3220 with 195s with I’d like to see a .300win mag do that. Throat is still fine after hundreds of rounds, I could care less about factory ammo, I didn’t get a weatherby to depend on store ammo, no true weatherby fans does… but let’s go back to “negligible” advantage in factory ammo. It’s 300fps faster with 180gr bullets or 700 more fpe at the muzzle. I don’t think negligible is the right word.
@eddielombera5862 not true at all
300 win mag can easily kill game out to 1000 yds all day long
Most hunters don't kill game much past 200 yds in reality so you are delusional
The 06 shooting the nosler ABLR 210 grain amd 0.661 bc at only 2625fps is a legitimate 700 yd elk killer as well out to 700 yds with 1900 ft lbs of energy at 600 yds
And that's with an 06
The standard 300 win mag produces
Far more than that .if you need more
Than 1000 yd capability just het a 50 BMG
@@jamiehurtt3530 first of all, no one is talking about 1000yd hunting… and the 300wby exceeds them both… lol your original argument was factory ammo but now you’re throwing hand loading numbers with a 30-06? What are you trying to prove? You’re doing nothing but proving that you need to hand load both the 30-06 or 300 win mag, the 30-06 very hot!, to make it a 600yd elk gun when the 300wby does it with factory ammo not to mention how much flatter it is. 300wby Is the better cartridge period, its only expensive because its not as popular because it was a rich man cartridge since day 1.
.300 Win Mag is a great cartridge and I still love it. However, if you compare it to cartridges like 6.5 PRC, it looks pretty old.
The 6.5 PRC has less energy at the muzzle and up to ~600 yards. Beyond 600 yards, the PRC has an energy advantage. So both cartridges deliver more than enough energy at close range, while the 6.5 PRC has an advantage at extended ranges. Also, 6.5 PRC has much milder recoil.
Better long range performance + lower recoil make the 6.5 PRC a more balanced cartridge in my opinion. I got a Bergara in 6.5 PRC a few weeks ago and I#m more than happy with it.
Still gonna keep my .300 Win Mag, though.
You’re handicapping the 300wm to get those result. Likely comparing a heavy for caliber 6.5 and not a heavy.308 bullet. I own both. 143eldx vs 212eld(just for example) 6.5 isn’t going to provide more energy at any range.
Yes but the 300 prc got the crown now in all aspects compared against the 300 win mag.
If you dont mind recoil and barrel life then get a 30 nosler with 26 inches barrel.
That's funny. Hopefully you don't believe that.
Hopefully you try to justify your empty words
Simple. The PRC,is the new kid in town and not nearly as available. Might never be as available.
If you looking at time speed, forget the 30 Nos and pick up a 30-378, 300 RUM or 300 Wby that all have more case capacity.
Availability is not what decides if one design is better or worse.
We are comparing cartridges, not avalability.
The 30-378 Wea. Is the worst caliber idea Wea. had.
Speed is important but also efficency and that is why the 28 nosler is king in the 30 caliber speed camp.
The 300 win is a fantastic cartridge, i had half dozen of rifles in 300 WM.
But is not the king anymore.
Yeah it rules the roost. Must have a brake or silencer though.
Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as a 3rd party bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! The other source of confusion is “AICS Pattern” magazines. AICS “pattern” magazines is about the design, not the length. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR “match” rifle, to have a match length magazine like the typical AICS 3.850. You would be wrong! The HMR uses Pmags regular AICS pattern Long Action magnum magazine, which has an approximate 3.53” max length. Depending on your intentions with a “Match” rifle, the short magazine could become a very severe handicap. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal. You’re ok with the short actions. Don't take my comments wrong. I really like my B-14 HMR 300 Win Mag! It's always transported in a nice foam lined hard case!
But, the 300 WM has a OAL of 3.35" and fits in a long action. If yours has 3.53" it's suitable for a 300Wby or 300 PRC. My proyect for next year is a donnor 300- 6.5-300 Wby 3.6" action rebarreled for 300 WM with a bit longer throat. Most manufacturers do not publish Action lengh and I have looked. Didn't know they came in 3.85" exept maybe for the 338 Lapua. Want to stick to the 300 WM myself with longer bulles👍On RUclips BLR-X10 has a video about modifying a Browning BLR magazine(I like the BLR) that might apply to you. Google Bergara floor plate for sale
Such a simplistic view on the subject of large .30 caliber rounds. There are many newer .30 caliber magnums that have several advantages over the .30 WM such as the ability to shoot much longer, higher BC bullets with higher velocities and better wind drift. The only disadvantage I see are the availability of factory ammo for those who choose to not handload their ammunition.
I have the .300 NM that is a excellent shooter even beyond 1,500 yards. The 300 PRC and .30 Nosler are also great new 30's.
The disadvantage of the 300 WM is that the long case hinders the ability to load the newer high BC bullets and be able to fit the magazines and the vast majority of all rifles chambered in the 300 WM have too slow of a twist rate to even stabilize the newer high BC bullets.
such a small percentage of hunters need such power or can handle it.
No big deal, If you can handle a 30-06, just a bit more push, depends on the ergonomics of the rifle, same cal will kick a lot more in one rifle than in another. As performace on game about the same as a 30-06. BUT you can reach out a bit more and with the right heavier bullet put down something big with more confidence. For some reason it's the 3RD most popular 30 Cal Cartridge out there. #1 308, #2 30-06 and #3 300WM. All the rest together don't come near(Forgot to mention the venerable 30-30 Winchester #4)
Handling it is key. Precious few can shoot a 300 Win well.
.300 Win Mag is a barrel and powder burning marketing extravagance.
It does not rule anything , 30/30, 30/06, 270 Win do!
Do not leave out the 308 Win. Very underrated, and usually loaded too heavy
30/30 has stopping power, not distance so that's ruled out by 300wm. 30/06 is 500ft/lbs less and more distance drag than 300wm. 270w is flat but stopping power is smaller substantially than 300wm. Remember, it's either you or the bear, and if I ever have to shoot a bear, and not drift a bullet off its skull, it's 300wm all day long. Period.
@@garnettwhite5523 if its me or the bear, im packing the .375. .300 might make you think your thing is bigger in the deer woods, but the front shoulder of a bear doesn't really care about that. the .300 is the jacked up truck of hunting.
and also, you forget that in large parts of the US, 100 yards is long range because of the thick woods and brush. .300 is actually a worse option there.
.270 win, also considered the finest sheep round of all time.
i cant believe you went right to bear, and arent even talking about a good bear stopping round.
@@hotramen5952 you're right. I did go to bear and did talk about stopping power on a bear 😂.
@@hotramen5952 and yes I live in Canada. Where the bush does prevent sight at 50yds. I don't want an expensive, rare caliber like 375 h&h that's gonna be too much recoil. You're forgetting that 300 wm is a 375 casing necked to 30 cal. Same powder volume , higher velocity, smaller diameter bullet that goes through trees like butter and keeps going afterwards. I ain't aiming for a shoulder, I'm aiming for the face. Plus I've shot a bear with a 300wm and a cougar twice because I had too. Not because I was hunting those types of animals. All 3 times it stopped it dead. No movement. If I wanted a rare expensive caliber, which I do have, and I was gonna carry it for protection, it's my 348 Winchester. Still shoots 600 yards. 2800 ft lbs at the muzzle. 4+1 Browning model 71 lever action. Parent case 50-110 WCF. 200gr FTX.
Not fan of computer voices.
Is it ?
The internet has rendered this channel rather useless. This dude doesn't recognize or even seem to know the 300 H&H the original 300 magnum, and arguably the best of the lot. You get 4 in the mag instead of 3 as a bonus. The Win Mag is a good cartridge to be sure. But to leave out the only 300 mag that existed for 40 years is just another example of youngsters who don't do their homework. It is the state of America today.
300 win Mag and 300 wby Mag out perform the H&H by a mile
@@JonRangel87 the Weatherby yup.
The Winchester? Well you better bone up on that one. Maybe by inches lol.
@@JonRangel87The Weatherby? Yes. The Win Mag? Not hardly.
No disrespect to the .300 Winchester Mag, but I'll take 30-378 Weatherby Mag over any other non-military rifle; and even many military spec rifles.
man those things are cannons! weatherby makes a darn fine rifle too.
If you are shooting out past 400 yards at elk , have a 26" barrel and have plenty of cash to practice at 500-600+, it might be worth it.
@@JamesJones-cx5pk
...or, you can get the dies and accessories to reload your own rounds. That'll save a whole lot of ca$h. Of course, the initial investment will co$t a bit, but ammunition ain't cheap anymore. 😋👍
@@MickPsyphon My cousin had one here in Mississippi for about 5 years until he sold it. It just isn't necessary for deer. I shot it and liked it but I had more trigger time on my .308 and could out shoot him to 500 yards.
The ammo is so hard to find
300 win mag is based off of the 300 h&h not the 375!