S10 V8 Stock 5.3 LS / Vortec 1/4 Mile Times
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This is a video of me running my V8 S10 on the track. 1/4 mile runs. 98 S10, 5.3 Vortec from a Tahoe with over 270,000 miles. Stock motor, just new gaskets and oil pump. 4L60E from a V6 S10, Ford 8.8 rear end.
3 of the 4 runs I got a ton fo wheel hop. I run I got it to hook, and it ran a decent time! Watch the video to see it!
Also, a little nugget of useful info: I weighed the truck while out there, and it came out to 3375 pounds. Without me in it.
I just finished up my 5.3 swap in my 98 s10. It’s a night and day difference from a 4 banger to a v8. Very happy with mine. Daily driver. It’s not a hellcat, but it goes quick. Way better than before. I’ve got about 5k in mine. Low mile engine and upgraded 4l60. Stainless shorty headers and 2 1/2 full stainless true duals with a stainless borla muffler. Current performance motor mounts, custom harness and computer program with the downstream o2 delete, evap delete, and security disabled. Everything in the truck and gauges work like factory. Ac works. I put a cluster from a 99 blazer to get a tach. Steering column with shifter from an 02 s10 auto 4cyl. Patched the floor where the shifter used to be. New carpet and newer seats. Entropy radiator and electric fan combo. Shortened driveshaft. 3.42 rear end. New rims and 255/60/15 cooper cobras. Smoked head and taillights. About 5 months of fabricating and working on it for a few hours after work almost every day. Thinking about putting one of those stage 1 drop in cams in and having it tuned. I’ll really need a posi then. Kinda hard to find a 3.42 posi in Florida I love it though. It’s everything I always wanted it to be.
You just got my subscription, will definitely be following along with this truck. I'm building the exact same thing right now
I got a 2005 GMC Sierra ext cab with a 5.3
-227/238 BTR Cam with .660 dual spring ext.
-3200 FTI Stall
-stock 3.73 open diff
-1 3/4 long tubes
-mail order base tune not dyno/street tune
-truck is mad slow off the line
And everything else is stock even injectors and I ran a 14.4 at 89 idk if that’s good or not but it was one run only and it spun a tad off the line plan on getting TBSS intake bigger injectors and throw a shot on it it’s a fresh rebuild with ARP hardware throughout and my rings are gapped for a shot just don’t got the money right now
I know that track, congrats, I am also doing a 5.3, LS on 95 Sonoma. I am from central florida, the trac is 20 min away from me. Again I have been following your channel and bought a gm performance oil pan because of your video, thanks again. Keep doing your vids.
I’m by Avalon park area, so you’re right by me!
Yes!, East Orlando, Union Park.
Nice runs! Truck does good to be completely bone stock! I have a 5.3 in my S10 with some nitrous on my channel.
Thats a great sleeper you have started there. I have a video of what i started on my youtube channel lol of like 7 subscribers!!!! Anyway you just gained another
That’s my blue mustang you ran I blew up my engine that day
Dang!
Cliff's How To Channel I bought a 5.3 out of a Tahoe I’m going to put in the mustang
Whaaaaaaaaaat! That’s crazy! Good luck! What happened with the mustang motor by the way?
The cam phaser failed came apart whit h took out my right side cam and a valve hit a piston Started knocking pretty bad then wouldn’t run anymore So I thought about it and decided to put a 5.3 in it It’s going to cost me allot of money but at least I’ll have a punch rod engine instead of a modular
I for real had to google what a cam phaser was!
I have a 15 sho ran 13.3 stock but definitely making this 5.3 s10 swap soon love how they sound
fun little ride man, a set of cal tracks and your good to go
awesome video - lotsa fun factor - i put hellwigg traction control on mine wheel hop gone
LOL , I love how you were sawing the steering wheel back and forth during the burnout even though I am unsure of what it accomplished....I'm just messing with you a little. Good video
Keeping the thing straight! Thanks!
Stay ahead of the curve.
Nice truck! Get some E/T streets for the rear! I bet you knock a second or more off the time.
My home track! Bad ass video!
Try some moroso traction bars and sandbag your bumper. Thats What I did with my '92 with my ls swap. Nice truck...
I have an 03 Envoy 5.3, completely stock, and makes me sick that it's so sluggish. Can't wait to start modding her up. Good video. If you ever come across any 03-04 Trailblazers / Envoys / Rainiers / Ascenders with the LM4 5.3, these are all aluminum engines.
ChillCosmos 4.2 is good for boost, 5to 600hp on stock unopened 4.2 vortec
Even with the wheel hop I was expecting a faster ET.. But You don't have a lot of money in it so just have fun with it.. We have some older square S10's with 5.3's and they're running low 12's.. But they're just drag trucks only so I'm sure they don't have Highway gears in there either.
What gears come in the 8.8 A 2.90?
@@skrip2143 it really depends. but stock not too good explorer rear ends have a good one most of the time
That's a lot heavier than I expected for a regular cab, the stock curb weight I've seen on various spec sites was ~3,000lbs and I know a LM7 swap doesn't add 300lbs, an LM7 with its AL heads weighs about the same as a 4.3 with its iron heads... Why is it so damn hard to find weight specs of cars and trucks that aren't complete trash?
I'm about two hours south of you. Also have an s10 with a 5.3, never ran it at the track. I have CalTrac bars, they stop wheel hop real good.
How much were those cal-tracs?
400.00
@@cliffweatherbee6914 I have a parts list on my desktop for this build. I paid $369 for them, the 3700 drag profile. I also run summit 2" lowering leafs and 28" tires.
I've got a GMC Jimmy, it weighs about 4300 with me in it. I've got a 5.3, and I'm just getting way too much squat and axle wrap. I think I'm just going to make a bastard pack from a 52" main leaf from a square body (full size) pick up. They're an 1/8" thicker and should curb the squat for now.
I haven't had any luck lowering my truck. It's four-wheel drive and the alignment gets skewed way off if I go any farther than 1/2 inch on the torsion bars.
Rear and front swaybars from S-10 with ZQ8 package some have a anti hop shock
If you can't find that package. IDK why you wouldn't. Yard's are littered with S-10's. Blazers have larger diameter sway bars than trucks. ZQ8= 1 1/4" approx. Regular = 1" approx , pickup 7/8" approx
It leaves the line like a slug but it picks up on the big end
You know, add a set of traction bars to stop the wheel hop. That will cut some time off
Everybody likes Cal tracks but I've used slapper bars and they'll make you hook up pretty dang good.
Cal tracks, slicks and 150 shot.
Cal tracs are expensive thoo. Got yourself some cheap 60$ generic slappers, take offs from a shop, and spray away
Cal tracks, mono leaf, will take off anywhere you want
For the price, miles, wheel hop and being a stock engine it did well. I'd be happy with it, especially on the street. Wouldn't take much to get in the 12's.
A cam and a 150 shot with a tire and some caltracs with a 2 step to launch will put him into the 10s easy
@skrip2143 only if it was that simple....everybody would be running 10s!!!!!
Nice truck good Time
You probably know this but the later model s10s had a horizontal shock on the axle that cut out the wheel hop maybe it's something you want to add if you don't have it
I didn’t know that actually! I think I want to do a 4 link. Either with coilovers or bags, not sure yet.
@@CliffsHowTo yep much better
Im working in my 5.3 swsp im doing the cluster gauges to work as soon as im done and make sure they all work i will share how to get your cluster working in yoir s10
are you gonna have a wire diagram or a video, I really need to get the gauges working in mine haha
Shimzon follow me i have some for you
Seems like something isn't right.. I have a 1st gen. S10 with a mild build 305, 4 speed T-10, and 8.8 rearend 3.73 gears, did a 14.4.. that I had to baby off the line due to wheel hop.. I'm needing some suspension changes and cal-tracs, hoping to break into the 13's, with a 305 that everybody trash talks ..
Yeah, traction and wheel hop was a real issue!
Thank you for making this video. It’s allowed me to realize I do not want to do this build.
Mmmmm, okay. I think it’s pretty good for a $350 engine with 270,000 miles on it! Within 1.1 seconds of my corvette! That’s not too shabby in my opinion!
Great econo build. Crazy potential
Wheel hop is easily cured bud
My ol ladies Toyota RAV4 3.5L V6 runs 15.40’s with the AC on, full tank of gas and 100 lbs of tools in the back.....
Nice! Yeah, the newer engines are definitely putting out more power per liter than the old engines.
Should look into some Caltracs to stop that wheel hop.
It's the pinion angle
Just wondering how the cooling system is holding up now that it's getting warmer out and you have the fans up front. I'm currently running a much more aggressive LQ9 with working a/c here in Texas using the Superior radiator and their fans. I can tell right now the fans won't be able to keep up with the a/c on once full swing summer gets here. Considering going to the Intrepid fans and curious about the success you're having. I know you don't have your a/c working yet though.
I don’t have the a/c working yet... it seems to be okay so far, but not a good metric.
Cliff's How To Channel I went ahead and ordered the Intrepid fans today. I have the Superior rad already recessed fully into the core support and the condenser mounted in front. So I’ll be replacing my current fans and shroud inboard on the motor side with these. Wiring them together to run on high speed when fans are commanded on. We’ll see how they work.
that was some good runs.....
Just found this if someone can just tell me the camera he is using with the heads up driving display? Thank you for any info you guys can get me. P. S. This video is making me want to move forward on putting an LSA into a S10
David Castro seems like just a GoPro. I forget how to get to the telemetry settings but just search GoPro telemetry on here and I’m sure you will get your answer
It's an app called track addict
ton of wheel hop, get some traction bars and you should get a better hole shot.
I had an 02 s10 stepside and a 10 bolt posi, with a fat sway bar and 265’s was solid and stiff as can be
I’m new to this sport. Would tire pressure help? If so, up or down?
I’m trying to build an extra cab s10. SBC carb.
Lower pressure typically. But you don’t want to go too low on street tires.there’s a lot more you can do besides that for traction/weight transfer.
I honestly don’t go to the track too often. Just once in a while. Mainly after doing some work, to see if I’ve improved at all.
Try long tube headers,retune,sticky mickeys on the back.
I’ve got the mickeys on now, just need to get it to the track and see what happens!
Do you know what rpm the trans is shifting at. It sounds like the trans is shifting early
Wheel hop is killing your time
Nice truck. I am in Orlando as well.
What size tire? And what's your gear ratio?
Thanks! It needs some work... Interior is crap, and paint is crap. But at least it runs now!
3.73 gear, Ford 8.8.
235/60/15
@@CliffsHowTo nice. Going to 8.8" mine. We're you able to get away with just shortening the one side?
Future plans for turbo?
Yeah, just shortened one side. No plans for turbo.
@@CliffsHowTo What about the 4-3/4 chevy bolt pattern did you drill your axles ?
I had a machine shop do that.
How did you make the 5.3 so slow? They'll run those times in lightly modified 4x4 silverados.
It’s 1.1 seconds slower than my 2005 corvette, and it has 115 less horsepower. I don’t think that’s too bad.
A lot of my issue is that I can’t powerbrake it from the launch without roasting the tires. If I could get it to hook, it’d be faster for sure.
@@CliffsHowTo there's been guys make bolt on 5.3s run 11s. Ls1s can easily run 11s. My bolt on ls6 ran 10.7@130ish....in a heavier camaro not even a vette. Lots of potential left in it.
I guess this is a old vid. I didn't look and see if you've done any more with it. Hopefully so!! It's fun
Does this swap still have power steering and A/C? I want to to the same thing to my 01’ regular cab.
Yes, although I don’t have the lines made up yet for the compressor. The compressor is in place.
How did you manage to make the fuel level indicator work?
I have no gauges yet. Just took it out and ran it!
I will definitely update everyone when I finally figure it out.
Fuel level goes through the PCM on the LS computers. Then a serial data wire to the gauges.
Hey this is Paul I just want to know what year the Ford Explorer was that the 8.8 come out of thanks
2002-ish I believe
IS A STOCK REAR 8.8? OR YOU CUT IT? OR SHORTED? OR OEM WIDE 8.8 FROM EXPLORER?
From explorer, shortened.
O THANKS,AND NICE TRUCK
You're running a truck intake on a compact?
I got it with the engine…
Nice runs man! Hey next u should get the s10 extreme suspension for better handling. U can buy traction bars to stop that wheel hop i installed them in my s10 an man it makes a diffrence ! I bet u can get into high 13's with a Power programer! Maybe do bigger tires on the back 17's
I have a v8 swapped 2nd gen Sonoma with a pretty hot 350 vortec. Its old school but i still feel like i could keep up with these 5.3 trucks. Never had it on the track but its pretty quick on the street. Head over to my channel to check it out.
Hell yeah man, good shit on street tires without caltracs! Get a few traction mods and you'll easily be in the 13s without any engine mods!
Congratulations on the good pass! I can't wait to see what my truck will do! I'm about 6-700 heavier, no posi (7.5 diff with 3.42 gears), and crappy passenger car tires. But, I have an engine with 133k and a rebuilt 4L60E. What gears are you running?
P.S. I ran a 14.01 when I had my 4 spd C4 Corvette. I hope to be in the 14s as well!
I have 3.73. My 2005 corvette does 13.1, so the truck is only 1.5 seconds off that! I’m happy!
I think we have had this discussion before, but what do you use for your telemetry??
What's your last name so I can find you on Facebook.
Nice video.. just put a 4.8 together, hopefully i can get out there to see what my times are. Headers ,cam,pp heads, Daily driver
What are your engine temps with that fan set up
Just took it for a drive. 84 degrees out, several burnouts and redline pulls. Hottest it got was about 215.
If you can improve that launch, you'll get much better times. Some traction bars, better shocks and sticky tires and practice, get that 60 foot down to 1.8 or so.. you could maybe see some 13s
I added traction bars and got it down to 14.2. I am about to order new wheels for my corvette, then throw my corvette wheels on the S10, with some drag radials.
That should help!
Hell yeah! Budget builds like that s10 are FUN.
You ever run it with slicks?
I have not.
Nice runs 👍💪 I wanna do this .where too begin ? Please help
I have like 15ish videos on my channel showing the process. Check it out.
Also check out s10forum.com, and lt1swap.com. Lots of info!
Buy the engine first before the shell
Traction and slappers and gears I see 13s
Gear the rear end
What kind of exhaust did you do?
You can see the full parts breakdown here:
S10 LS Swap Parts List and Total Cost! Everything You Need To Know! ruclips.net/video/KfKKb5Uuzvo/видео.html
so it ran about as good as a old BOSS 302
Maybe? But it most definitely ran better than the crappy little 2.2 that it came with!
Need to run lower gears
Did you had to cut that diff or it fit perfect?
Had to narrow the rear.
You dont have to narrow it but you should cut and relocate the spring perches on the diff and set the pinion angle that's why your getting nasty wheel hop
What is your horsepower numbers?
I’ve not dyno’d it. It’s just a stock motor, stock tune, headers, and over 270,000 miles!
I’m doing the exact build can you tell me how you did the wiring?
So. There’s a reason I’ve not done too much video on the wiring harness. It’s because how the wiring is done is very, very dependent on the year of the motor, year of the computer, and year of the car it’s going into.
The wiring varies quite a bit from year to year for each parameter. Also, it varies depending on your setup: drive by cable, drive by wire, how many o2 sensors, transmission type, etc.
That being said, lt1swap.com is where I got most of my information. That site has tons of info on each year, and has instructions to go from drive by wire to drive by cable.
The harness is a pain, and takes a lot of time. If you can afford to buy one already done, I would!
Bet preciate it man ‼️
What gear are you running in the rear?
3.73
Is your motor a vortec ?
Yup. 2001 5.3 from a Tahoe.
You need cal tracs on that truck bad your time will improve by Atleast 1 second without that wheel hop
I put traction bars on it, and gained nearly a second and a half!
I’ve also added corvette 10” wide wheels, but haven’t been back to the track yet. (I need to go back!)
@@CliffsHowTo yup I got A true 94 ss that I dropped a 5.3 LS making 400+ to the wheels an 8.5 rear end built 4l60e it should run low 11s
C5 z06 wheels on the stickiest tires I could find running 305 35 18in the back and coil over leaf in the rear with coilovers in the front
10:13
6:59
Did you have to change anything on the 4l60e cause ive heard there's some differences from a s10 v6 4l60e and a full size 4l60e
All I did was slap a corvette servo from amazon in it... and used a different flexplate.
Cliff's How To Channel what type of flexplate did you use?
The differences are internal, the v8 4l60e’s have a stronger input shaft and more clutches, also if your taking one apart it’s very highly recommended you throw a heavy duty sun shell in. You will thank me later, also I’m not really sure but I think the v6’s had a higher stall converter too
What shifter you have
I just grabbed a floor shifter from a blazer at the junk yard. It probably would have been cleaner to get a column shifter and use that...
@@CliffsHowTo how about your stall I’m doing a ls swap on my s10 to did you use the 4l60e?
I don’t even know to be honest with you! I just grabbed an 4l60e from a 2001 V6 s10 for $200, and slapped that bad boy in there! It came with a converter, so whatever the stock V6 s10 stall is.
Is that a 342 gear?
3.73
@@CliffsHowTo im building a first gen , its gonna have a small block for now because i have a 2 year old G.M crate motor with a new 700r4 I got the doner truck with the new motor and trans for $900. I plan to go with a procharged 6.0 . I have an lq9 that needs gone through. Do you think a 4.10 would be enough with a th400 or should I go with a 4.56 or a 4.88? We only have 1/8 mile tracks around here.
Was that a manual s10 before automatic
Yes
Cliff's How To Channel Do you have all the manual parts?
So you may have a factory 8.5" reae
Title of this video says "Stock". Truck is clearly NOT stock. First is the rev limiter...not "stock". Second is, listen to the chop of the cam...definitely NOT stock.
I’m not sure what you mean about the rev limiter… I don’t even have a tach on this thing!
And cam? I bought this engine for $350 on Craigslist. The guy told me it was stock, and said he owned the tahoe it came from, since new. I didn’t add a cam, so as far as I know, it’s all stock. The here are headers on it, in full disclosure.
@CliffsHowTo a "rev" limiter keeps you from going above a certain "revolution" (rpm). When you pull up to the line, in this video, you can clearly hear the lope of your cam...it's choppy. If the guy that sold it to you said it was "stock", then he didn't know either. I have a mild build 5.7 votec 1983 S10. Yours has a similar sound to mine.
@CliffsHowTo okay...I watched your other vids on the build. It all looked "stock" as you said. Maybe when they tuned your engine they tweaked on the timing to get that little lope I'm hearing. Good build and good luck. You did a great job and spent a lot of time on the project.
Thanks for watching! For the tune, I just sent it out to lt1swap.com, and had him flash it. Nothing special.
I’m happy with the build though! Little fun to drive truck now!
“That mustang” is heavier and has a smaller motor
That mustang is ls swapped now. I know that because it's my mustang
@@Hotdog_pimpin He's still not wrong. Unless you did some weight reduction, 3700lbs+ lbs is heavier than 3300+. I cant tell the exact year/trim of your mustang from this video though.
@@sylumgand at the time of this video 2006 gt 4.6 3v 5spd car weighed 3600
Now it's got a 5.3 big cam 317 heads headers
Built 4l60e 3600 stall car gets down the road pretty good now
Get the reaction time down and quit smokin the tires in the water. If you’re running street tires
So I shouldn’t do a burnout with street tires?
2:42 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
Crazy wheel hop!!!
these ls truck engines are dogs on the bottom end.im so pissed,because i spent tons of money and got a 6.0 cammed it tuned it caltrac's,373 gears,5 speed and its a dog,back in 98 i had a s10 with a LT1 and same 5 speed stock manual like now and that thing was fast as hell,i was blowing away mustang's,camaro's and ss impala's everything and it only made like 300 hp,im making a lot more than that now in this blazer and its nothing compared to the lt1 damn i wake up every morning bummed out,i had one chance to do this because i sold this car and got a ton of cash so i was like im going to do what everyone is talking about and man every one sucks ass haha on here and tv.now maybe a super charger but damn thats money and no room for one unless its top mounted but yea im broke now and tired of fooling with it.DO YOUR HOME WORK BEFORE YOU DO THIS SWAP GUYS.even if he had caltracs and hell lets throw in a set of drag radials he wouldnt have done anything impressive anyways.think about it.damnnnnnnn
After only adding traction bars, this truck runs 14.2, which is 1.1 seconds slower than my 2005 corvette.
I wouldn’t call that slow. It’s not a drag monster, but it is fun to drive. Much more fun to drive than the 4 cylinder that was in there!
I think my swap was worth it. I spent just over $4,000 total I think.
I’ll continue to spend more, as I do more to the truck, but that’s what the swap itself cost me.
I’m happy with my result!
Cal trac
Jesus Christ a 15 sec et with a stock 5.3 in a S10 is horrible lol that's about what a stock 1500 can do
A. I doubt a stock 1500 can go that fast. Highly doubt it.
B. I think that’s pretty decent, given I bought the engine for $350, and 275,000 miles on it, with a 4l60e with unknown milage, from an S10, that I bought for $200, on stock 7” wheels and tires…
I did a similar swap a.few years ago ..mad wheel hop , call tracs fixed it ..here's a video of its first start
ruclips.net/video/tlN3h6gFKbo/видео.html
Run them gears my guy manual shift it lol
He got smoked bad by them Ford's pretty sad
I think it did pretty good for a 270,000 mile motor on crappy tires... I am most definitely happy!
Hey that blue mustang has a 5.3 vortech in it now
Slow
It’s no funny car, but it’s a whole lot more fun now than when it had the 4 cylinder in it!!!
I’m happy!