New C200 MHEV Mercedes C-Class FULL REVIEW CClass Estate Wagon C-Klasse T-Modell Kombi - Autogefühl
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2018
- In today’s Autogefühl's episode, we present you the Mercedes C-Class Facelift as Estate / T-Modell with the new C200 Mild Hybrid. As always we cover exterior, interior, engines and driving experience.
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Autogefuhl - probably the only source on the Internet with a review of each single C-klasse model. True to the game.
I've got the C200 Estate from April/19.
Dear Autogefuhl in your test do not mention the combination between the smooth 9G gearbox, the collision prevention, the engine saling mode and the cruise control. In combination with the Eco-mode, the car activates the right gear to economize gasoline and keep response. Sailing mode from 50 km/h to >130 km/h in Eco-mode uses Electric engine to stop completelly the petrol engine. This intelligent system is very quick to react when you released the pedal based on the slope and the environment using the front camera. The engine is stopped to 0 rpm, if no vehicles slowing down in the front, inertial acceleration is not too big and enough battery level. If there is not enough battery then sailing mode goes on with engine at neutral (600 or 700 rpm). I like this sailing mode engineering very much because is very predictable and keeps the car driving safe. If it appears any slower vehicle in the front then the engine is started to retain the car. The start/stop of the engine is very smooth and very frequent in Eco-mode, only possible with a dedicated 48V battery. You can notice that engine is stopped in the display by 0 revs or the D "drive" in green without a gearbox number.
An important remark, the engine start/stop in sailing mode is not active when using the cruise control. I find will be great to be also effective using the cruise control in someway. An alternative is to cancel cruise control during downhills and inmediatelly the engine is stopped. Cruise control enables driving relaxing the legs and feet which is the most tiring for long trips. In this Mercedes it is very easy to speed up and down with the excellent steering wheel controls.
About the rear and lateral collision prevention assist sometimes is activated abruplly by a person moving around the car at slow speed. It is a bit alarming for passengers because it really stops the car abruply but sure that no damage is caused to anybody. Also very confident to blind angle alert signal in the mirrors, it is very useful.
Related to economy of fuel, MHEV solution I agree with you that is not a game changer but enables the driver to relax and drive more smoothly. NEDC medium consumption of 6 liters/100km is possible?. An example of a real trip 1400 kms at an average speed of 112 km/h with full car and a full roof box: 8,0 liters/100km. Not so bad.
Wow. Thanks Thomas and Autogefül team. Waiting for it. You nailed it as always.
And forgot to say, one of the best reviews on RUclips, keep the good work up!
Been looking forward for this review even if it was the T modell.Thanks Thomas!
outstanding review ...very detailed.. Autogefuhl keep it up.. my all time favorite channel 😄😄😄
Fantastic review as always. You talk about things that is important but are easy to forget about because you take it for granted.
You always describe the vehicle in detail without getting enjoying :)
Excellent work, just like Mercedes in this case :)
Appreciated! Please recommend:)
Thanks for the upload. Nice to hear something other than uk or us accent
Great review, elegant car!
Another great video. Thanks.
Cracking car - but I definitely like the coupe the most. Great review - nice quality car - love that interior.
Danke Thomas für Ihren Test! Wunderbar!!
you re welcome =)
Great reviews very informative and entertaining. I love the way you compare the cars to other ones
Thanks 🙏 please recommend 😎
Looks great
Perfect car .. sporty, luxurious, family car.
I had two W123s in the past. There was something special with the star on the bonnet. I still love the star.
Hi Thomas! Awesome review! Yes, my personal preference is an estate/avant model version of either Audi or Mercedes, and after your review, really like the C class. Very nice non-reflective dash. Bravo Mercedes!
👌
if I need an estate to travel with my family I would go for E class with new MBUX, navigation etc. however if I would need a car for myself I would go for C class cabrio. one of the best looking modern convertibles on the market.
The color is awesome
...at 19:42 what was that on the instruments?! Love the philosophical discussion of spring travel with air suspension - typical excellent Thomas commentary! That rear seat space is poor for the price and length - if you have two tall teenage children with long legs - no way! No wonder some punters choose an SUV! Excellent Review, and superb driving part as always - Many Thanks Thomas.
thanks john ! The cars wants me to take the hands on the steering wheel although they are on :)
If I drive very calm, the steering sensor doenst detect my hands.
Ah yes. Actually I suspected that, and thought that was a steering wheel symbol. And yes, I always notice you operate the steering wheel in a very nice linear and smooth fashion, never "sawing at the wheel" as they say in 'performance-driving' circles! (Sawing at the wheel makes passengers very sick very quickly!). It's a good sign to see a driver keeping the steering wheel completely still. It's interesting that you can confuse the steering sensor - good stuff! I haven't tried it on our car because I have Lane Assist switched off - must try it! Many thanks.
+john collymore - Thomas's driving and commentary is the best - "Live on tape"!
Thanks for the review.
I was interested in the mild hybrid advantages - consumption in particular - and you made it clear there’s none! Too bad!
Cheers.
🙏
I think the MHEV is an interesting technology because it further simplifies the electric circuit of the car, since all electric and electronic functions are managed through the small auxiliary electric motor! And there's only a slightly bigger battery needed! But I thought the C200 engine is a 2-litre! But, apparently, the 16hp of the electric motor is added up to the 184hp of the internal combustion engine to perform as much as a normal 2-litre engine!
Good review, mr 6ft 1in!
Cheers!
@@autogefuehl Cheers! Hehe!
Hi Thomas, a good review as always, can you please do a full review of Renault Megane rs.
Great video as usual! What camera do you use?
How much does the air suspension raise? Any news on E400d estate review? Especially in All Terrain trim
There are two designs for the steering; the Avantgarde and Exclusive - has a round steering wheel with trapezoidal spokes finished with gloss black inserts and the AMG Line - has a flat-bottomed steering wheel with sportier grips at 9 and 3 o'clock positions and pentagon spokes with an aluminium finished.
I prefer the basic steering wheel design which looks more refined and represents 'luxury'.
Not a big fan of station-wagon style exteriors, but the interior is very beautiful. Well done Mercedes
I much prefer this grille !
I want to replace my crappy emblem with the one this one has
Very good review !
Thanks 🙏
Dominic Lussier ‘
I wished for a škoda Rapid sportback review and what do I get...... Yes ladies and gentlemen...... Please a big hand clapping for Thomas and Autogfühl team.... Thank you and thank you thank you sooooo much for this one..... What a superb one man job really love it
appreciated! We ll try to bring you the new Skoda Rapid successor as soon as possible
Autogefühl Thank you i'll be one of the firsts to watch it...... Keep up with great job u have my full support
is the c class in this video equipped with 1.5T 184ps engine?
Just got the C200d Estate, 1.6L, 160hp. Very refined engine, quick as well. Coming from a BMW 3 series 318d, the c200d feels a lot more powerful, esp in higher revs. I just need to get used to a different seating position, I'm always struggling with my elbow hitting the center console. Seat at the lowest position, higher feels too disconnected. Otherwise very happy with the car and the new engine.
I've got the C200 Estate from April/19.
Dear Autogefuhl in your test do not mention the combination between the smooth 9G gearbox, the collision prevention, the engine saling mode and the cruise control. In combination with the Eco-mode, the car activates the right gear to economize gasoline and keep response. Sailing mode from 50 km/h to >130 km/h in Eco-mode uses Electric engine to stop completelly the petrol engine. This intelligent system is very quick to react when you released the pedal based on the slope and the environment using the front camera. The engine is stopped to 0 rpm, if no vehicles slowing down in the front, inertial acceleration is not too big and enough battery level. If there is not enough battery then sailing mode goes on with engine at neutral (600 or 700 rpm). I like this sailing mode engineering very much because is very predictable and keeps the car driving safe. If it appears any slower vehicle in the front then the engine is started to retain the car. The start/stop of the engine is very smooth and very frequent in Eco-mode, only possible with a dedicated 48V battery. You can notice that engine is stopped in the display by 0 revs or the D "drive" in green without a gearbox number.
An important remark, the engine start/stop in sailing mode is not active when using the cruise control. I find will be great to be also effective using the cruise control in someway. An alternative is to cancel cruise control during downhills and inmediatelly the engine is stopped. Cruise control enables driving relaxing the legs and feet which is the most tiring for long trips. In this Mercedes it is very easy to speed up and down with the excellent steering wheel controls.
About the rear and lateral collision prevention assist sometimes is activated abruplly by a person moving around the car at slow speed. It is a bit alarming for passengers because it really stops the car abruply but sure that no damage is caused to anybody. Also very confident to blind angle alert signal in the mirrors, it is very useful.
Related to economy of fuel, MHEV solution I agree with you that is not a game changer but enables the driver to relax and drive more smoothly. NEDC medium consumption of 6 liters/100km is possible?. An example of a real trip 1400 kms at an average speed of 112 km/h with full car and a full roof box: 8,0 liters/100km. Not so bad.
Another great review :-) Does this update have more sound insulation ? I wonder if they offer the acoustic package with C-Class now? Many complained about wind noise around the drivers door on the pre-update...
They didnt change that afaik
Would it be possible to create a video dedicated to RWD cars during winter, with winter tyres ? I believe, that if you create one in your in-depth style, it would be really helpful for car shoppers deciding on RWD or AWD for winter.
The air suspension is what attracted me to this car. I was a fan of french cars because of their smooth drive, but today they seem only like bad copies of German cars with stiff suspension. When turning into a Comfort mode, can I expect really smooth drive like cars used to drive in the past? Is it significantly better than DCC system using by VW? In this review Thomas sometimes used the Comfort mode, but it seems that the car is still stiff too much and driving over rough roads is annoyingly audible in the cabin.
I wish we could still order the luxury package with traditional ornament in the states.
Wish the back seat were a bit more spacious. This is supposed to be a great family car.
Congratulations for another great video!👏👏👏 Will you try the new c300de🔋 or the e300de🔋?
thanks! We ll try
Nice review. I love the German accent.
Welcome!
Thomas, thank you for your thorough reviews. I enjoy this variant of the C Klasse. The interior is of high quality, and the hood ornament brings back memories of the W123. Sadly, the Estate is not offered here in the USA. If MBUSA would offer it as an order only, German delivery, I believe it would sell very well. The cachet (and savings) of European delivery and exclusivity of this body style could be a good marketing strategy. MBUSA are you listening? Again thank you Thomas, keep up the good work.
thanks nathan!
Great review, Thomas. How would you compare this vehicle to the GLC in terms of utility and storage space?
Thanks! They should come quite close. The estate trunk is usually longer whereas the suv has more legroom in the rear
I thumbs upped when I saw that jacket.
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What brand is iPhone cable @ 32:59?
I would still call them fake exhausts and I don't like them. Same goes for fake exhaust sound through the speakers on some cars.
Mercedes has done a good giving the C-Class a mild facelift which includes a revamped exterior and interior with vivid tech and updates to the engine line-up.
In my opinion, the C-Class Estate looks better than the Saloon. The Saloon has bulbous rear end with round rear lights which does not appeal to me, on the other hand, the Estate has rear lights that extends into the boot which looks to me classier.
The C-Class Estate may look classier on the outside and vivid on the inside but what puts me off is the annoying fake exhaust tips and the C200 with a 1.5-litre petrol engine needs to be worked so hard to get the best out of it.
Thomas whats is ur opinion about the limousine version?I wanna buy a new c200 bcs of the small engine.Taxes here in Gr is huge for 2 litres engine cars.I wanna add most safety options and airmatic also.what do u think is it worth it?
hey m8, we have several pieces on the C sedan here:
ruclips.net/video/30YX69Oa1FM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/qAl4S12hq4I/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/5HVv5m1vqvs/видео.html
Thomas, does the sensors in the front also work when it is full of dirt/snow/mosquitos?
To some extent, yes. Stops when heavy rain fog mixture
i have the 2016 prefacelift , I do like these 2019 facelift more
4:28 "let's copy Audi matrix interior roof LED but not exactly the same"
"I know, make it in the front seats!"
Thomas another very nice review. But there a something that you should evaluate better. Driving position-pedals setup. Mercedes and BMW and some Audis have the break pedal to the left of the steering wheel that its no natural. And not for your right hip and column. Its a chame because their are great cars.
thanks, I ll take a look !
Very good review! Very nice car but unfortunately no enough space in the rear seats.
Cheers!
Hi Thomas, could you do a review on the c300 as well?
hey, we already did a lot of review with the new c class facelift,
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=autogefuehl+c+class+facelift
That's it for the moment.
classic topical mercedes grill with the mercedes badge. 3 star 3 d logo is the best!!!!
Are you planning to review the Eclass station new Hybrid 300de?!...
It is disappointing once you see the big battery hump ..
@@JohnDoe-vx3z Maybe but the E-class has a bigger booth then the C-Class. Anyway the specs of the new diesel/hybrid looks very interesting....
Get the executive line in the UK please! Not all of us need silly amg bodykits and huge stars!
I feel MB is becoming lazy relaying on Nissan Renault engines to move their cars . A pity . Though not a diesel fan I would probably choose the C300 Hybrid (220cdi + hybrid) .
Why can't we get these in the states!!!!!!!
Hi Thomas! You didn’t compare and mention Volvo v60. Anyway good job. Thanks
cheers!
12:30 but the Passat and Superb are in the class of E-Class, 5 Series or A6... so of course they have more leg room compared to the smaller segment...
No passat and superb are actually midsize models
@@autogefuehl Oh youre right about the passat... but the superb is viewed as Executive (Oberklasse) de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Superb#cite_note-2 altough the Kraftfahrtbundesamt sees it as midsize.
Isn’t this hybrid technology similar to what’s available in toyota hybrids?
that Toyota is using is combined with a even bigger inbuilt battery
I'd go for classic style with a S class but sporty for c and e class
Is this c200 1.5 a Renault engine?
No thats new mercedes downsized engine mhev
Pls try & get your hands on the new Toyota Auris/Corolla hatch to review
We will! Already enjoy this:
ruclips.net/video/HfmgRgF0a-Q/видео.html
a red mercedes is a total NO GO!!!! but I like the classic grill....would prefer this one.
I like the look of this more than the new one. To me, a Mercedes has to have the classic grille and the upright star on the hood. That is how it has been for a century, and I think it's a shame that Mercedes is abandoning tradition.
I prefer the old cruise control system it was mroe intuitive
The ornament on our C-Class hasn’t been stolen yet after 13 years....yet. Haha
Awesome :)
Swap out thomas for a smaller reviewer and this will be s-class wagon review.
i ll buy one in 4 years or so after they depreciate
This front grid is so old... I like the new one much more
Renault Engine and petrol too....the 1.5 dci badged as a 180d is bad enough 😠
Hatte der Testwagen das Akustikglas? Wir haben das pre Facelift Modell mit normaler Verglasung und finden den Wagen nicht besonders leise. Ein Passat Variant mit std. Glas ist etwas leiser. In Anbetracht der Werbung "Das Beste oder Nichts" doch etwas enttäuschend. Auch die Airmatic ist imho ihr Geld nicht wert. Komfortabel ja, aber kein Klassenunterschied zu anderen Autos mit normalen Fahrwerk. Zumal wir bereits vorne links einen Dämpfer tauschen lassen mussten...das schlägt mit 1.600 EUR pro Rad!!! Zu Buche...glücklicherweise hat Mercedes 3/4 auf Kulanz übernommen. Auch die jährliche Wartung, bei anderen alle 2 Jahre, ist ein Grund sich für das nächste Auto woanders umzusehen.
Ja das sind berechtigte Kritikpunkte!
C-Klasse hat kein Akustikpaket soweit ich weiß?
@@autogefuehl doch gibt im sound komfort paket akustikglas mit dem burmester soundsystem. habe es bestellt, weil ich ohne akustikglas den wagen auch nicht leise fand. hoffe, daes mit dem glas besser ist.
ah ok, ja das wird er haben
So the Mercedes MHEV drivetrain is far inferior to Toyota's tech when looking at real-world consumption?
Quite a shame. Toyota has proven in the past 20 years how much potential there is in this area.
Did he mention about the noise of the C200?
Did you watch full length?
Good thing they're finally moving away from that overly cartoony led-filled cockpit and uniscreen
I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but they are not 'moving away' they didn't implement it in C class, yet.
What about 2020 BMW 3 Series 330i M Sport G21 Auto?? this BMW seems legit too and have bigger power to compare with.
a valuable, expensive
E class is better except the price
Kinda looks like a s class at the front
Clever advertising to call it MHEV but this thing is terribly outdated. Both in terms of interior(old style) and the mild hybrid is just a gimmick compared to a true EV, plugin or Hyrbid. Would be mad to buy this.
Mercedes doesn´t call it a MHEV. It´s simply called the C200
Nothing outdated about this car, the S-Class featured the twin-screeens before this C-Class was released, and electric cars are as old as internal combustion cars. Try again. This isn't an Apple marketing gimmick for clueless millennials.
Bring back Kathrina!
I actually rip off one star when i was 6 years old
Shame on you....
Calling Mild hybrids MHEVs is an insult to EVs. They don’t deserve an acronym.
looks like KIA , very plastic !
Such a boring interior now compared to the new 3 series
This is face lift not a new car like 3-series so poor choice of reference. BMW sucks big time, all cars looking the same inside.