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I hope Mercedes replace the 1.5 engine 204hp in the C200 ASAP .. even before the facelift , the w206 gained more wight than w205 and that caused the acceleration numbers to be a shame compared with today standards…
You are 100% correct on the capacitive buttons Thomas, they are rubbish! The real reason why so manufacturers are using them is because it is cheaper than quality feeling buttons.
You need to repeat this in every review, Thomas - seriously. These capacitive buttons are just simple crap. And all car makers are using them now... gnargh...!
@@2squared Totally agree. Evolution gave people several channels of perception. Auto makers limit the client experience, keeping aside kinestetics and tactile perception and oveloading the visual channel. Mazda seems to give the exclusive product )
@@jandersen6802 You know what is and feels even cheaper?! A touch screen! Hello, Tesla. Be happy MB is still using buttons, even if they are capacitive.
gloss black everywhere where you touch, capacity touch "buttons", stupid multi"buttons" on a steering wheel, no real HVAC... no! no! no! thomas you are maybe the only one complaining about capacioty touch buttons as a car reviewer, and i thank you for that! what a stupid trend.
I have a GLC as a hire car at the moment and it has just two capacitive buttons that you can swipe in any direction. They can be handy but they also mean you accidentally activate them whilst holding the wheel and invariably it skips your music track.
@@sbomorse For clarification, the complaint is over those haptic keys, that are not true individual buttons, but a single plastic cover cut into fake buttons. Its not only annoying to use, but looks and feels cheap.
I hate to say this, but sadly MB has gone way out of the line (and out of the present times) when it comes to pushing interior tech and such. It's just crazy, and many if us simply reject that kind of pushy approach.......
Forget it! It’s a great approach for the 4/5 lease people or fleet cars! You get the tech and can show it to your mates, and then drop it in 4 years…. I hate it
yeah, I find it disgusting. Artifical leather, piano black, digital gauges, no physical buttons, I really hate this kind of design ideas on newer cars.
Autogefühl videos always provide a lot of technical detail without being boring. I definitely agree with Thomas regarding "real buttons". It nice to be able to adjust functions by feel so I don't have to take my eyes off the road..
Appears that the cost cutting side of things is really important to Mercedes Benz. Comparing to previous models, this one feels very "plastic". Those seat & air-conditioning buttons, general ergonomics seem really bad. 😔
@@Channel_Tube I had a W204. Cost cutting was apparent there as well. Mine had 28,000kms on and was so full of creaks and rattles. A lot more plastic was used when compared to the facelifted W203. My dad has a facelift W203 C220 cdi 2005 model. With 310,000 kms it has no rattles and feels way more solid than any C Class that came after it.
Ciao Thomas, I collected last week my new GLB200d with "full spec" especially for the MBUX system . Normally (before Corona) i used to drive 40/45.000 km a year especially on highway, this year of course things are different . But it's one week now that i drive the car, and I tend to use (to my daughter big amusement) the "hey mercedes" system . Such as "hey mercedes it's too hot" and it lowers temperature one degree , "hey mercedes drive me to...." and it works, the gps is set correctly to that address . Even when i had fisical buttons in previous cars, anyhow you (at least for me) still look at your hands when you touch or move the button (of course not for door mirrors but for example AC system or GPS etc) . One good thing on the GLB is that you still have the touchpad to operate the MBUX and I use that also a lot, I have not seen the touchpad on this C class and I have to admit that would be a "minus" if it was not there, plus, very important there is a "fisical button" for the radio volume (i use that a lot) and for the AC fan speed . But as you mentioned you buy a mercedes most of the times for the way it rides , i came back to Benz after two BMW and a Toyota and it really feels like being "back home" .
Definitely with you, Thomas, on capacitive buttons. Watching the video, I can clearly see how it distracts your eyes from the road. Not good. I like the voice control in my BMW. It (mostly!) works well and stops you fishing around in the menus. If they can improve voice commands further that would be a big help. We need good journalists, like you, telling manufacturers the importance of simplicity and safety and hopefully they’ll change future models.
12:20 ayy, thomas is a fan of dash berlin too, great taste man, not even surprised, trance is exactly the type of music i would imagine him enjoying at moderate volume while driving carefully on german autobahns obeying every rule
I'm missing the conclusion section at the end of each review. They give a good summary of the cars you drive and make a good closure for the review. Somehow the current reviews seem to stop a bit abruptly. Otherwise wonderful job! :)
A very fair review of the new C class and I agree 100% on the excessive driver input required to navigate basic operations. The new 3 series has taken the right approach: give the driver the option to use either traditional knobs/buttons or the screens to access the basic and most used functions. The current B9 generation for Audi’s A4 has the same approach as BMW but I fear that the next generation of the A4 will replicate the all screen approach as the A6 or A8. On another note, Mercedes spends lot of money on focus groups to gauge the receptiveness of their target demographics on screens replacing knob/buttons. Perhaps the majority of potential mercedes buyers want the all screens approach?
Absolutely agree. I like the choice in my 3 series. 90% while driving, I use the iDrive knob. It is the easiest to operate ans doesnt cost me much concentration. In addition, the shortcut buttons around the knob are really good, blindly switching from map to carplay, to the home screen and so on. If youre on a standstill or a passenger you can still use touch easily. Plus: less cleaning!
its funny because mercedes is switching to this tablet capacity touch button interior exactly from the same approach as you are describing... they have it still in a a-b-glb class... thumb pads on a steering wheel, touch screens, voice, and that swiping pad in the middle of central console.
I own a w205 and not buying this car because of the capacitive buttons. I went for BMW g22 which felt more like a real car despite it is now almost 2 years old design. Miss the good old cars, not these ‘engined playstations’
Really dont get this trend. They look ridiculous and every manufacturer seems to have the same idea apart from some exceptions - 3 series as the best / closest example.
can't see my 77 year old mother in law trading her current C class for this. Those haptic buttons are horrid. Will wait fo mid model reverse back to real switches.
Totally agree that some controls need to be kept on physical dials/switches in order to allow the driver to maintain concentration on driving. This mania for putting everything on screens and touch buttons is dangerous.
Yes they are dangerous but so are push buttons like first who gets into the car and drive off and then play with the buttons? If your doing that then boy you should not have a car now if your going to drive you get on and set everything Bluetooth volume and everything not on the road they have button on the wheel which is safe and good now if it was no buttons there that would be different and dangerous. you just want something to complain
such a massive improvement over the current one also while i definitely don't prefer capacitive buttons over traditional ones, i don't find them too difficult to use.
Loved Your insightfulness, Thomas! Which other car-reviewer would notice the inclination of the screen, getting too hot to operate when under direct sunshine. My only advice would be- please integrate textual notifications in the video with a summary of the most important points (price, engine, consumption, acceleration, warranty). Keep up the fantastic work! 👏👏👏😁
Yes, sometimes I wondered if it was coincidence, but it happens too often for it to be by chance! Surprised he didn’t have a blue pocket square or socks to match the blue cars!
The best reviews out there currently. Thomas, excellent job with helpful observations. Just bought an E cabriolet- it’s a beautiful car to drive first and foremost. Keep up the good work.
Totally agree with the “tech overload” over complication comment, I bought a new C class Coupe with all the bells and whistles and 4 years down the road I am still unearthing capabilities which I never knew I had or needed. Whilst some of the tech is great, next time it will be the basic package for me! Great review as always!
Please tell us when cars do not have a spare wheel. At night time in Australia, we can be 200 to 300 kilometres from a service station. Road side assist often does not extend to these areas. We can also be out of Mobile Phone range. A puncture repair kit does not repair all punctures, especially when side walls are slashed by debris or a rock. What is in the car's puncture repair kit? How do we re-inflate the tyre. Getting safely to one's destination is more important the car's speed potential which we cannot legally use anyway, or stereo system and it's controls.
Great review again Thomas! My favourite channel for my lunch break :) I completely agree with your comments on ''feeling home' and 'simplicity'. I have both new B-class and X2 and i feel way better when i drive the BMW, it is definitely a much better car and not being a ''smart phone''. I hate to push a lot of buttons before lunching the car (e.g. de-activating irritating lane assist). However i also recognize the B-class as a much practical and near-luxury level interim quailty. Also my wife doesn't like to use B class because of all those fancy but distracting stuff.
Great job!! This is easily the most superior detailed review of the new C-Class that I've seen. All the others have been fanboy reviews. I'm only finally seeing the cons of this car in this video. Overall great redesign, but some things I don't think I could live with. I'll wait for the refreshes from customer complaints.
It's illegal to use a phone, tablet etc in the UK when driving. I assume many other countries will be the same. This center console is just a tablet and I noted when Thomas was driving he was glancing downwards a lot. (I like the way BMW's have their screen on the dash). This combined with capacitive buttons is very poor design. I have trouble with fine motor control. This is not disabled friendly. Disappointed as I like the car otherwise and was thinking of getting one, currently have an E-class. Great video as always Thomas.
capacative buttons = HORROR. They want you to fiddle with it so you crash your car. As long as they hold on to these buttons, I’ll hold on to my present car with REAL buttons. if they don’t wanna change, I will take the bus. No cheap plastic car for me, thank you very much. Mercedes looks nice from far, but far from nice these days… Uh
18:43 - We do not have air suspension anymore, but the adaptive suspension [...] really combines comfort and sportiness very well". Meanwhile camera shakes like crazy.
In the USA we would rather stab ourselves in the eye before buying a station wagon / estate :) But I guess I can see the charm due to its practicality. The sedan looks superb in my opinion.
In the US all they want is more SUV's. I have the C wagon in Canada and it gives you all the benefits of the GLC but with better handling, gas mileage, quickness, more fun to drive and doesn't look like everyone else. The only thing I don't have is the added road clearance, but unless you are going off road or on un-plowed roads right after a snow storm you really don't need it. The most off road that 99.9% of SUV drive on is gravel driveways or a rural gravel road. Not sure why the hate-on for wagons because SUV are really the family car for the past 20years. Wagons are enjoyed by people that are into sports or have dogs. In F1 the medical car duties are shared with the C63 wagon and the Aston Martin SUV, the MB looks way cooler.
They took the depressed look of their A-class, and smacked it onto their C-class. BMW is doing weird things with their grills, and Audi's design also seems lacking lately. Did the Germans lose their touch?
Thomas, thank you for your honest reviews! Yes, I agree with you that physical buttons are better than software buttons. I received my 2021 E350 this summer and it is a tech overload to drive sometimes. The 2021 E350 has a few real physical buttons,, so that is good.. I appreciate the safety tech, but there is a steep learning curve (for me at least).... I am still trying to learn all of the feature and how to use them safely while driving. Adjusting settings with physical buttons are best in some areas.
Could not agree with this review anymore! Finally someone that’s actually being honest and upfront about this new trend all cars are following, especially Mercedes. Very disappointed with Mercedes as I love the technology in my current W213 E class.
I really like your style of reviewing. You have such a good personality and a good sense of humor ( Autogefühl Police). Keep up the good work with such amazing reviews. And yes capacitive touch buttons are so counterintuitive.
8:58 No man, nobody can complain enough about the capacitive buttons. The warm, cheap feeling freaking finger print magnets without usability and tactile feel. They are 100% cost savings, they improve nothing but the OEM profits, which is the only thing OEMs care about as long as they sell. And if its every OEM who does that, then the consumer has no choice but to go for them, validating the suits' decision. Sad times.
Haven't tried capacitive buttons on cars yet, but I trust your judgment! I think non tech-savvy people might really hate them, while others may just find them "meh".
I am agree with you about buttons. The capacitive buttons that I like are the buttons of Audi on screen with aptic response. It is really well done, seems physical buttons.
I'm a big mercedes fan but making the lineup look the same is something I can't stand by. The lack of distinction is really bothering me, inside and out
Thomas you are correct, radio volume, radio tuning, temp control, fan control are much better with a knob. Don’t understand the loss of knobs and buttons. Leather is a natural fiber, and it’s quite sustainable as it is a byproduct of meat production. Some of your non-animal fibers are actually more environmentally unfriendly when you consider what there made of, and how there produced, and some are very unfriendly to recycle.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: ruclips.net/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/видео.html In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which body part you would murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ruclips.net/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/видео.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. Not using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all just of common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
Great rant Thomas re buttons and infotainment! Having to change temperature and other settings that need to be changed whilst driving should be easy, otherwise accidents will increase. Well said.
Drove it, really nice driving qualities, base models doesn’t have enough power. Engine seems very much tuned to the automatic, so forget the pedal shifters. The screens are fast and bright, the buttons I don’t mind at all. Usable pretty quickly without looking, like the sliding feature for the volume especially. Interior is very beautiful and clean, materials excellent, a very nice place to be, with a crisp and quick but not hectic feeling autogefühl.
Always great rewiews Thomas, great job. I agree 100% about the fake exhausts and the buttons in the stearing wheel, i want them be real. Bye from italy.
It drives better than a 3 series for my taste, I like the looks and everything but I will buy the new 3 series just because of the quality physical buttons and controls in BMW. A lot easier to live with on a daily basis. I will place the order in 2 months from now
it has a extending leg bolsters, it folds up from under the seat. ive tested it and i think its better then the older model where all kind of stuff could fall inside and you must clean it every month
Thomas, that center screen looks ridiculously oversized so the smaller one with physical climate knobs seems the right choice. Good review again as always 👍🏴
Great Review as always. Having taken on extra work during the pandemic I’ve been driving 2 generations of Mercedes Sprinter commercial Vehicles. The newer generation steering wheel and the blue menu screens looked amazing, but The capacitive buttons on the newer generation I found quite frustrating and certainly preferred the click and usability on the previous generation. I really do like the new C class. A shame no coupe in the W206 and I look forward to seeing what Mercedes produce in its place. I agree the best version is the RWD C300. A nicely balanced comfortable luxury car.
You are absolutely correct about capacitive touch A distraction and harder to use in modern cars. Nothing is more intuitive than a button. Mercedes is following VW with the capacitive overload.
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Great video! Interesting material choice on the middle console in both cars. Does this also have the NFC in the middle for phone pairing like the previous ones? Also I played with a configurator, and in my country if you want any extra not in a standard model, you have to get the bigger middle screen unfortunately.
I agree that capacitive buttons don´t make much sense in places you need to adjust something while driving. But tbh you shouldn´t adjust your mirrors while driving - that´s what I learned in driving school! :D
Hey Thomas, You say that it´s not easy to operate the capacitive buttons due to the distraction. I think after 1 month of driving you will be totaly fine with this kind of control. You just need to give it a chance. Why you didn´t try the Distronic Plus with Steering Assistant? The driving is much more comfortable.
Thank you Tomas, i feel the same way about cars currently. The automotive companies should offer a non-technical version of their cars. Electric windows and heated seats are ok...
Hate the capacitive commands. Certain functions must be kept old school. Love that you have the balls to criticize what you feel is wrong and appreciate the purchasing advices. Very different from the usual auto journalists who keep everything they say mild and politically correct. Another thing the makers should bring back is a full size spare wheel for the extra layer of safety and peace of mind. Perhaps you could bring it up more often. I understand weight reduction, costs but still. Or at least create the trunk space for that and let the customers decide be it as an option or bought aftermarket Well done, subbed
After watching several reviews and seeing everyone complaining so much about the capacitive buttons, I have to say that I love the new buttons in my C-Class. Once you understood how they work and how sensitive they are (took me 10 min) you don’t want to go back to your old cockpit. So honestly, I don’t get it. What’s all the complaining about? Maybe all those people complaining are just a little too old for a C-Class? 😅
Great video and execution on a sitcom lenght video. Delivered key information with the just right amount of personal preferences. Your 100% right about the single thin bar under the screen that tiny volume switch and touch screen climate control is not safety foward. The sun roof controls kills me deep inside my soul. Correct me if I am wrong but does anyone intentionally drive with the sunroof screen and or sun roof partially open? (Not referring to the vent tilt) it should be a convenient 4 tap button. Screen is closed... 1 tap opens screen, 2 taps vent, 3 taps fully opens sunroof and vise versa and finally 4 or more quick secussion taps will close sunroof and screen from any position. In the event of rain or a dangerous panic situation it would nice and cost cutting. It also takes the longest to close and should continue to close during and after exiting. Plus no more having to hit the start button because you forgot to close it up. No more sitting and waiting for the screen to close so you can hit it again and wait until it's closed to open your door. (Mercedes if your reading. I have a ton of product innovation experience focusing on functionality, design and future preparedness. I am available for full time employment)
Hi, i'm wondering whether I should get the new C-Class or the BMW 530? I'm not very knowledgable on cars & this is going to be my first car ever sooo please advise what do u think
23:00 " You have more space in an E class" Maybe subjectively but when it comes down to the pure measurements the difference is actually not that big. In the rear the E class offers only 7mm more legroom and in interior width it is only 2cm more...
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00:00 C-Class W206 AMG-Line design
00:50 Avantgarde trim design
01:05 Length, suspension, rear-axle steering
03:09 Fake exhaust alert
03:28 Trunk sedan W206
04:07 Comparison estate T-Modell S206
04:07 Trunk estate T-Modell S206
06:03 Engines with PHEV
06:59 Interior
07:52 AMG-Line interior
08:12 Seats
09:04 Digital instruments
09:24 Comparison bright Artico MBTex seats
11:00 Cockpit overview with MBUX infotainment
13:44 HUD
13:54 Panoramic roof
15:11 Rear seating sedan W206
16:00 Rear seats estate T-Modell S206
16:50 2022 C-Class driving C300 4Matic
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Love your videos!! We need YOU to do a head-to-head comparison of the 3 series, c-class and a4.
I hope Mercedes replace the 1.5 engine 204hp in the C200 ASAP .. even before the facelift , the w206 gained more wight than w205 and that caused the acceleration numbers to be a shame compared with today standards…
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You are 100% correct on the capacitive buttons Thomas, they are rubbish! The real reason why so manufacturers are using them is because it is cheaper than quality feeling buttons.
I agree. They look so cheap. Also those diplays look very cheap. Plasticky and large bezels.
You need to repeat this in every review, Thomas - seriously. These capacitive buttons are just simple crap. And all car makers are using them now... gnargh...!
@@2squared Totally agree. Evolution gave people several channels of perception. Auto makers limit the client experience, keeping aside kinestetics and tactile perception and oveloading the visual channel. Mazda seems to give the exclusive product )
I totally agree. Porsche is going this way as well. Shiny black that you can’t see in the sun. Rubbish.
Hate anything capacitive, you're definitely on point there.
Capacitive buttons feel cheap. They never work as well as intended.
@@jandersen6802 have to use your elbow instead. 💪🏻
Capacitive is better than a touch screen, like in Teslas.
@@jandersen6802 You know what is and feels even cheaper?! A touch screen! Hello, Tesla. Be happy MB is still using buttons, even if they are capacitive.
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Capacitive buttons suck...terrible use of the "novelty" aspect. Buttons were fine, don't reinvent things no-one asked for
Capacitive touch? So, they don't work while wearing gloves?
They're looking at ways to empty your pockets after you buy the product
Agreed. Even Audi has backtracked on all the touchscreen nonsense and put proper buttons in the E-Tron.
gloss black everywhere where you touch, capacity touch "buttons", stupid multi"buttons" on a steering wheel, no real HVAC... no! no! no!
thomas you are maybe the only one complaining about capacioty touch buttons as a car reviewer, and i thank you for that! what a stupid trend.
"Hey Mercedes." "How can I help you?" "SAVE the BUTTONS!" I feel your pain, Thomas.
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i absolutely agree on your thoughts about capacitive buttons!
They make no sense in this use case of a car.
I have a GLC as a hire car at the moment and it has just two capacitive buttons that you can swipe in any direction. They can be handy but they also mean you accidentally activate them whilst holding the wheel and invariably it skips your music track.
@@sbomorse you are confusing thumbpads for infotainment operation in a GLC for a capacity touch buttons...
@@sbomorse For clarification, the complaint is over those haptic keys, that are not true individual buttons, but a single plastic cover cut into fake buttons. Its not only annoying to use, but looks and feels cheap.
Hated it on Teslas and hate it on the new Mercs - remove that giant screen / tablet from the middle of the car. Make physical buttons great again!
That one big button area with several capacitive buttons on it is ugly like hell! Most stupid "cost-cutting" idea ever.
I hate to say this, but sadly MB has gone way out of the line (and out of the present times) when it comes to pushing interior tech and such. It's just crazy, and many if us simply reject that kind of pushy approach.......
Forget it! It’s a great approach for the 4/5 lease people or fleet cars!
You get the tech and can show it to your mates, and then drop it in 4 years….
I hate it
yeah, I find it disgusting. Artifical leather, piano black, digital gauges, no physical buttons, I really hate this kind of design ideas on newer cars.
Autogefühl videos always provide a lot of technical detail without being boring.
I definitely agree with Thomas regarding "real buttons". It nice to be able to adjust functions by feel so I don't have to take my eyes off the road..
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Used to easily watch the near hour long videos. But I really do enjoy the new efficient format.
Capacitive buttons... 🤢
One combined multi-capacitive button... 🤮
looks like a stretched a class, boring
Haptic feedback would help with some sort of brail so u know where ur touching without looking at the wheel.
Appears that the cost cutting side of things is really important to Mercedes Benz.
Comparing to previous models, this one feels very "plastic". Those seat & air-conditioning buttons, general ergonomics seem really bad. 😔
Obviously you haven’t experienced the horrible, creaky gloss plastic dash of the W205.
@@wasdwasdwwasd Agreed, I believe w204 would be the last generation that wasn't built around the 'cost-cutting design language'.
I'm not sure if I entirely agree with the cost cutting. You'd never see stuff like 4 zone climate control on previous C-Classes.
Cost cutting has been happening with the Germans for quite some time, except for BMW
@@Channel_Tube I had a W204. Cost cutting was apparent there as well. Mine had 28,000kms on and was so full of creaks and rattles. A lot more plastic was used when compared to the facelifted W203. My dad has a facelift W203 C220 cdi 2005 model. With 310,000 kms it has no rattles and feels way more solid than any C Class that came after it.
Ciao Thomas, I collected last week my new GLB200d with "full spec" especially for the MBUX system . Normally (before Corona) i used to drive 40/45.000 km a year especially on highway, this year of course things are different . But it's one week now that i drive the car, and I tend to use (to my daughter big amusement) the "hey mercedes" system . Such as "hey mercedes it's too hot" and it lowers temperature one degree , "hey mercedes drive me to...." and it works, the gps is set correctly to that address . Even when i had fisical buttons in previous cars, anyhow you (at least for me) still look at your hands when you touch or move the button (of course not for door mirrors but for example AC system or GPS etc) . One good thing on the GLB is that you still have the touchpad to operate the MBUX and I use that also a lot, I have not seen the touchpad on this C class and I have to admit that would be a "minus" if it was not there, plus, very important there is a "fisical button" for the radio volume (i use that a lot) and for the AC fan speed . But as you mentioned you buy a mercedes most of the times for the way it rides , i came back to Benz after two BMW and a Toyota and it really feels like being "back home" .
Definitely with you, Thomas, on capacitive buttons. Watching the video, I can clearly see how it distracts your eyes from the road. Not good. I like the voice control in my BMW. It (mostly!) works well and stops you fishing around in the menus. If they can improve voice commands further that would be a big help. We need good journalists, like you, telling manufacturers the importance of simplicity and safety and hopefully they’ll change future models.
They should put capacitive controls on Hamilton’s F1 car steering wheel and see what the feedback is from him…
LMAO this quote should make into a car review
12:20 ayy, thomas is a fan of dash berlin too, great taste man, not even surprised, trance is exactly the type of music i would imagine him enjoying at moderate volume while driving carefully on german autobahns obeying every rule
I think some automotive CEOs might disagree with Thomas’s contention that cars shouldn’t be phones.
Specifically from purchase frequency perspective 😂
@@hexensage196 they mostly dream of Apple margins
@@karlieeuh i meant how often we're pushed to move to the next "better" model. Hopefully not the car's case. Yet.
I'm missing the conclusion section at the end of each review. They give a good summary of the cars you drive and make a good closure for the review. Somehow the current reviews seem to stop a bit abruptly. Otherwise wonderful job! :)
A very fair review of the new C class and I agree 100% on the excessive driver input required to navigate basic operations. The new 3 series has taken the right approach: give the driver the option to use either traditional knobs/buttons or the screens to access the basic and most used functions. The current B9 generation for Audi’s A4 has the same approach as BMW but I fear that the next generation of the A4 will replicate the all screen approach as the A6 or A8. On another note, Mercedes spends lot of money on focus groups to gauge the receptiveness of their target demographics on screens replacing knob/buttons. Perhaps the majority of potential mercedes buyers want the all screens approach?
way to go
May be Mercedes interior design team are consulting the young upwardly mobile who want their car interiors to look like their mobile phones.
Absolutely agree.
I like the choice in my 3 series. 90% while driving, I use the iDrive knob. It is the easiest to operate ans doesnt cost me much concentration. In addition, the shortcut buttons around the knob are really good, blindly switching from map to carplay, to the home screen and so on.
If youre on a standstill or a passenger you can still use touch easily.
Plus: less cleaning!
its funny because mercedes is switching to this tablet capacity touch button interior exactly from the same approach as you are describing... they have it still in a a-b-glb class... thumb pads on a steering wheel, touch screens, voice, and that swiping pad in the middle of central console.
I own a w205 and not buying this car because of the capacitive buttons. I went for BMW g22 which felt more like a real car despite it is now almost 2 years old design.
Miss the good old cars, not these ‘engined playstations’
2 year old design its nothing man. Just enjoy it.
@@MrPink- thank you 😊
Love the fake exhausts and air intakes. They ooze quality and social status.
Hhahahahahahaha
Really dont get this trend. They look ridiculous and every manufacturer seems to have the same idea apart from some exceptions - 3 series as the best / closest example.
Kapp
can't see my 77 year old mother in law trading her current C class for this. Those haptic buttons are horrid. Will wait fo mid model reverse back to real switches.
Totally agree that some controls need to be kept on physical dials/switches in order to allow the driver to maintain concentration on driving. This mania for putting everything on screens and touch buttons is dangerous.
Yes they are dangerous but so are push buttons like first who gets into the car and drive off and then play with the buttons? If your doing that then boy you should not have a car now if your going to drive you get on and set everything Bluetooth volume and everything not on the road they have button on the wheel which is safe and good now if it was no buttons there that would be different and dangerous. you just want something to complain
I’ve had virtually no issues with my W205, it’s been a pleasure to own. I’m now debating on this new one or a 3-series
such a massive improvement over the current one
also while i definitely don't prefer capacitive buttons over traditional ones, i don't find them too difficult to use.
I like this guy's honesty that Mercedes is making things unnecessarily complicated with all those screens and capacitive buttons.
"Where is the automotive heading with this touch controls". I love it when you say it. So true. This touch sensitive controls is a real letdown.
Loved Your insightfulness, Thomas! Which other car-reviewer would notice the inclination of the screen, getting too hot to operate when under direct sunshine. My only advice would be- please integrate textual notifications in the video with a summary of the most important points (price, engine, consumption, acceleration, warranty). Keep up the fantastic work! 👏👏👏😁
Thomas is such a gentleman. He always matches his clothes to the car he's reviewing! :)
Yes, sometimes I wondered if it was coincidence, but it happens too often for it to be by chance! Surprised he didn’t have a blue pocket square or socks to match the blue cars!
Car infortainment System have different system requirements ie dealing with heat and vibrations etc. sometimes bezels aren’t a bad thing.
What color is this? Very beautiful n calm
car companies should agree to stop using fake exhausts, fake vents, capacitive buttons.
The best reviews out there currently. Thomas, excellent job with helpful observations. Just bought an E cabriolet- it’s a beautiful car to drive first and foremost. Keep up the good work.
thanks Richard and beautiful choice!
I love the materials Mercedes uses but I feel the C class has too much going on for its own good. Not as clean as I would like. Great video as usual.
Lower parts in interior are from hard plastics, never seen in C-class before.
Totally agree with the “tech overload” over complication comment, I bought a new C class Coupe with all the bells and whistles and 4 years down the road I am still unearthing capabilities which I never knew I had or needed. Whilst some of the tech is great, next time it will be the basic package for me! Great review as always!
Great review and I like how what Thomas is wearing matches the paint. I miss "full screen, full HD and full length - let's go!"
I enjoyed watching the Video 😊. My favourite Is the Estate
I wish they kept the option for the classic grill style
Looks really great but the V8 will be missed. Interior is like a mini S class very nice 👍
Please tell us when cars do not have a spare wheel. At night time in Australia, we can be 200 to 300 kilometres from a service station. Road side assist often does not extend to these areas. We can also be out of Mobile Phone range. A puncture repair kit does not repair all punctures, especially when side walls are slashed by debris or a rock. What is in the car's puncture repair kit? How do we re-inflate the tyre. Getting safely to one's destination is more important the car's speed potential which we cannot legally use anyway, or stereo system and it's controls.
Great review again Thomas! My favourite channel for my lunch break :) I completely agree with your comments on ''feeling home' and 'simplicity'. I have both new B-class and X2 and i feel way better when i drive the BMW, it is definitely a much better car and not being a ''smart phone''. I hate to push a lot of buttons before lunching the car (e.g. de-activating irritating lane assist). However i also recognize the B-class as a much practical and near-luxury level interim quailty. Also my wife doesn't like to use B class because of all those fancy but distracting stuff.
BMW have kept most of their capacitive buttons, so much easier especially when driving 👍
Great job!! This is easily the most superior detailed review of the new C-Class that I've seen.
All the others have been fanboy reviews. I'm only finally seeing the cons of this car in this video. Overall great redesign, but some things I don't think I could live with. I'll wait for the refreshes from customer complaints.
welcome !!
Thomas: Keep conveying to the auto manufacturers that more complicated technology is not better. Simplify the controls and interfaces please!
It's illegal to use a phone, tablet etc in the UK when driving. I assume many other countries will be the same. This center console is just a tablet and I noted when Thomas was driving he was glancing downwards a lot. (I like the way BMW's have their screen on the dash). This combined with capacitive buttons is very poor design. I have trouble with fine motor control. This is not disabled friendly. Disappointed as I like the car otherwise and was thinking of getting one, currently have an E-class. Great video as always Thomas.
No Thomas, you are NOT complaining too much about bloody capacitive buttons.🤬😡🤬👎
As ever, really appreciate the honesty in your reviews.👍
I can't wait for you to review the new C63 hybrid when it comes out. Love your channel!
That center screen has massive bezels, looks like the first iPad form 2010. It's 2021!
capacative buttons = HORROR. They want you to fiddle with it so you crash your car. As long as they hold on to these buttons, I’ll hold on to my present car with REAL buttons. if they don’t wanna change, I will take the bus. No cheap plastic car for me, thank you very much. Mercedes looks nice from far, but far from nice these days… Uh
Dude , you are awesome. Nice review
18:43 - We do not have air suspension anymore, but the adaptive suspension [...] really combines comfort and sportiness very well".
Meanwhile camera shakes like crazy.
In the USA we would rather stab ourselves in the eye before buying a station wagon / estate :) But I guess I can see the charm due to its practicality. The sedan looks superb in my opinion.
I see more lambos than e class wagons or any wagon 😭
In the US all they want is more SUV's. I have the C wagon in Canada and it gives you all the benefits of the GLC but with better handling, gas mileage, quickness, more fun to drive and doesn't look like everyone else. The only thing I don't have is the added road clearance, but unless you are going off road or on un-plowed roads right after a snow storm you really don't need it. The most off road that 99.9% of SUV drive on is gravel driveways or a rural gravel road. Not sure why the hate-on for wagons because SUV are really the family car for the past 20years. Wagons are enjoyed by people that are into sports or have dogs. In F1 the medical car duties are shared with the C63 wagon and the Aston Martin SUV, the MB looks way cooler.
Great review. Your presentations are excellent and honest. We'll done. Real and professional. Thank you.
Welcome 🙏
Totally agree on those capacitive buttons, they're just rubbish. Real and separate buttons are the king, especially for a luxury brand like mercedes.
I love your reviews. Interesting and informative at the same time.
👌👌 please share :)
This C CLASS looks “worried” compared to the “cheerful” looking older versions.
They took the depressed look of their A-class, and smacked it onto their C-class. BMW is doing weird things with their grills, and Audi's design also seems lacking lately. Did the Germans lose their touch?
@@Jeroenneman No way. Audi is improving. They're nailing it lately
@@Jeroenneman German car designs have never really been great. it’s just more obvious now, as other manufactures are stepping it up.
Mercedes is going backwards in quality of the interior. The worse part is they trying to make us think those negativ points are Highlights
That's marketing for ya. But Jedi mind tricks aren't what they used to be.
Thomas, thank you for your honest reviews! Yes, I agree with you that physical buttons are better than software buttons. I received my 2021 E350 this summer and it is a tech overload to drive sometimes. The 2021 E350 has a few real physical buttons,, so that is good.. I appreciate the safety tech, but there is a steep learning curve (for me at least).... I am still trying to learn all of the feature and how to use them safely while driving. Adjusting settings with physical buttons are best in some areas.
Could not agree with this review anymore! Finally someone that’s actually being honest and upfront about this new trend all cars are following, especially Mercedes. Very disappointed with Mercedes as I love the technology in my current W213 E class.
I really like your style of reviewing. You have such a good personality and a good sense of humor (
Autogefühl Police).
Keep up the good work with such amazing reviews. And yes capacitive touch buttons are so counterintuitive.
8:58 No man, nobody can complain enough about the capacitive buttons. The warm, cheap feeling freaking finger print magnets without usability and tactile feel. They are 100% cost savings, they improve nothing but the OEM profits, which is the only thing OEMs care about as long as they sell. And if its every OEM who does that, then the consumer has no choice but to go for them, validating the suits' decision. Sad times.
Haven't tried capacitive buttons on cars yet, but I trust your judgment! I think non tech-savvy people might really hate them, while others may just find them "meh".
I am agree with you about buttons. The capacitive buttons that I like are the buttons of Audi on screen with aptic response. It is really well done, seems physical buttons.
Well, that BMW M3 front end doesn't look so bad anymore...
I absolutely agree with you, Thomas! the capacity buttons nowadays was so backwards!
The estate version looks awesome. We will never see it here in the USA. Bring it here in Thomas Blue!
Hallo Thomas, super Review.
Kannst du mir sagen welche Schuhe du dort trägst.
Vielen Dank
I'm a big mercedes fan but making the lineup look the same is something I can't stand by. The lack of distinction is really bothering me, inside and out
Yup. I won't be selling my W222 anytime soon for this new crap. The only new feature I like is the rear wheel steering.
Thomas you are correct, radio volume, radio tuning, temp control, fan control are much better with a knob. Don’t understand the loss of knobs and buttons. Leather is a natural fiber, and it’s quite sustainable as it is a byproduct of meat production. Some of your non-animal fibers are actually more environmentally unfriendly when you consider what there made of, and how there produced, and some are very unfriendly to recycle.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: ruclips.net/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/видео.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which body part you would murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ruclips.net/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/видео.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter.
Not using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all just of common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
Great rant Thomas re buttons and infotainment! Having to change temperature and other settings that need to be changed whilst driving should be easy, otherwise accidents will increase. Well said.
Drove it, really nice driving qualities, base models doesn’t have enough power. Engine seems very much tuned to the automatic, so forget the pedal shifters. The screens are fast and bright, the buttons I don’t mind at all. Usable pretty quickly without looking, like the sliding feature for the volume especially. Interior is very beautiful and clean, materials excellent, a very nice place to be, with a crisp and quick but not hectic feeling autogefühl.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great review as always T. Keep calling the Autogefuhl exhaust police!
love Thomas,s driving lounge
Always great rewiews Thomas, great job. I agree 100% about the fake exhausts and the buttons in the stearing wheel, i want them be real. Bye from italy.
It drives better than a 3 series for my taste, I like the looks and everything but I will buy the new 3 series just because of the quality physical buttons and controls in BMW. A lot easier to live with on a daily basis.
I will place the order in 2 months from now
Best reviewer around.
Thanks my friend!
The estate / touring looks great 👌👏
I could not agree more Thomas, nothing beats physical buttons, I don't know why manufacturers keep pushing the issue!!!
The front looks like Ford Focus. I still love my W204 C-Class
No extending leg bolsters on the front seats now either. I’ll miss that. Looking forward to trying one but slightly unsure if I will like it.
it has a extending leg bolsters, it folds up from under the seat. ive tested it and i think its better then the older model where all kind of stuff could fall inside and you must clean it every month
Thomas, that center screen looks ridiculously oversized so the smaller one with physical climate knobs seems the right choice. Good review again as always 👍🏴
Great Review as always.
Having taken on extra work during the pandemic I’ve been driving 2 generations of Mercedes Sprinter commercial Vehicles.
The newer generation steering wheel and the blue menu screens looked amazing, but The capacitive buttons on the newer generation I found quite frustrating and certainly preferred the click and usability on the previous generation.
I really do like the new C class. A shame no coupe in the W206 and I look forward to seeing what Mercedes produce in its place.
I agree the best version is the RWD C300. A nicely balanced comfortable luxury car.
Man that whistle is your trademark.. lol
You are absolutely correct about capacitive touch A distraction and harder to use in modern cars. Nothing is more intuitive than a button.
Mercedes is following VW with the capacitive overload.
Great video!
Interesting material choice on the middle console in both cars.
Does this also have the NFC in the middle for phone pairing like the previous ones?
Also I played with a configurator, and in my country if you want any extra not in a standard model, you have to get the bigger middle screen unfortunately.
After watching this i am still happy with my w205 with the specs 😅😅😅
Avantgarde exterior every time! How nice it is to see a Mercedes that isn't suffering from depression.
I love all the new technology the more the better makes it futuristic
Capacitive buttons are rubbish and even dangerous if you lose concentration and crash.
I agree that capacitive buttons don´t make much sense in places you need to adjust something while driving. But tbh you shouldn´t adjust your mirrors while driving - that´s what I learned in driving school! :D
Hey Thomas,
You say that it´s not easy to operate the capacitive buttons due to the distraction.
I think after 1 month of driving you will be totaly fine with this kind of control. You just need to give it a chance.
Why you didn´t try the Distronic Plus with Steering Assistant?
The driving is much more comfortable.
I absolutely agree that current c class is probably the best vehicle ever as regarding interior. I never felt I need any more.
Thank you Tomas, i feel the same way about cars currently. The automotive companies should offer a non-technical version of their cars. Electric windows and heated seats are ok...
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agreed. I for one don't care about all these features that cars have now. I never use them. I don't even use the radio lol.
Hate the capacitive commands. Certain functions must be kept old school.
Love that you have the balls to criticize what you feel is wrong and appreciate the purchasing advices. Very different from the usual auto journalists who keep everything they say mild and politically correct.
Another thing the makers should bring back is a full size spare wheel for the extra layer of safety and peace of mind. Perhaps you could bring it up more often. I understand weight reduction, costs but still. Or at least create the trunk space for that and let the customers decide be it as an option or bought aftermarket
Well done, subbed
After watching several reviews and seeing everyone complaining so much about the capacitive buttons, I have to say that I love the new buttons in my C-Class. Once you understood how they work and how sensitive they are (took me 10 min) you don’t want to go back to your old cockpit.
So honestly, I don’t get it. What’s all the complaining about? Maybe all those people complaining are just a little too old for a C-Class? 😅
Interesting!
How's the build quality? I'm thinking of getting one but I saw a video where it was hella squeaky
Great video and execution on a sitcom lenght video. Delivered key information with the just right amount of personal preferences. Your 100% right about the single thin bar under the screen that tiny volume switch and touch screen climate control is not safety foward. The sun roof controls kills me deep inside my soul. Correct me if I am wrong but does anyone intentionally drive with the sunroof screen and or sun roof partially open? (Not referring to the vent tilt) it should be a convenient 4 tap button. Screen is closed... 1 tap opens screen, 2 taps vent, 3 taps fully opens sunroof and vise versa and finally 4 or more quick secussion taps will close sunroof and screen from any position. In the event of rain or a dangerous panic situation it would nice and cost cutting. It also takes the longest to close and should continue to close during and after exiting. Plus no more having to hit the start button because you forgot to close it up. No more sitting and waiting for the screen to close so you can hit it again and wait until it's closed to open your door. (Mercedes if your reading. I have a ton of product innovation experience focusing on functionality, design and future preparedness. I am available for full time employment)
Hi, i'm wondering whether I should get the new C-Class or the BMW 530? I'm not very knowledgable on cars & this is going to be my first car ever sooo please advise what do u think
5 series is more comparable to eclass
Will it have massage seats? (not seat kinetics)
How come your channel doesn't have a +million subscriptions yet?
And I hate capacity buttons as well.
Your videos are really excellent, the best
I was the first to comment..Thomas is the best...reminds me of the Volvo with the large screen, too many steps to access functions. XC 90
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23:00 " You have more space in an E class"
Maybe subjectively but when it comes down to the pure measurements the difference is actually not that big.
In the rear the E class offers only 7mm more legroom and in interior width it is only 2cm more...