Toyota Highlander MISFIRES after fill up! How serious is this?
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My first guess is the vapor canister- user error. If you keep clicking the gas pump to fill up the tank after the first stop, you can fill the vapor canister with gas, which will squirt raw gasoline into the fuel system instead of gas vapor, and cause a way too rich fuel/air mixture. When the canister gets emptied, the car runs normally again.
yep, that's the first thing i though of as well.
100 o/o
I try to tell people who do this not to do it and they wave me off or in one case tell me to eat a d**k
On the evap line to the fuel tank, there should be a float that will close it off if the level gets high enough. They aren't reliable. Just don't overfill people.
Super common on the 2017-2019 highlander 2GR-FKS. Awesome job on the accurate diagnosis and explanation David. Sometimes with this you get a direct injection performance code which can send some mechanics on a loop.
Habibi
car will run normally again but continually allowing fuel into the canister will eventually ruin the charcoal requiring replacement.
AMD, the Toyota GURU
I was suspicious of the evap system. Some people love to top off their gas tank and what they don't know is how much damage that can end up doing. Some evap system repairs can cost a small fortune.
purge valve. i have diagnosed these before.
Especially when people repeatedly squeeze the trigger on the pump after they have filled up. When it clicks once, ITS FULL.
Yes, resist that urge. These days there is no excuse. We are paying with cards, not cash. You don't have to round off the price to an integer. When the pump shuts off, allow a few seconds for the residual fuel to drain out the nozzle, replace the nozzle on the pump, and tighten the fuel cap. You are finished.
Wizard, I finally listened to you and bought my son a Toyota. And I’m going to put your theory to the test……… I bought a 1990 Camry LE 4 dr sedan with one original owner who was I believe a mechanical engineer. For 30+ years this man was meticulous about the care he bestowed on the car! He kept a notebook of every single service record since 1990 until 2021 when he became too old to drive. I never saw so many invoices for oil changes and safety inspections in my life. And except for this past year when his sons began to take care of the car did I see where they had to replace the alternator and the battery, there was seriously little else that needed to be repaired during it’s lifetime except for brakes, tires and a muffler and a windshield. The only thing I would fault with this Camry is two patches of rust in back of both front wheels. And these are pretty good size holes that my son and I will have to address. But underneath the car is completely dry and no rust on the frame.
Well Wizard, was this too risky of a purchase? Or do you think I checked all the boxes necessary to make a well thought out purchase? Oh and BTW, the sons were asking $3500 which I thought was way too high, so I offered $2500 which I thought was still too high but the paint still looks great, the tires have good tread but are on the “oldish” side, but they took $2500 and were very happy.
My son has been driving it for several months now, oh, I forgot, it had 153K on the clock when we bought it.
So thank you for your advice Wiz.
Hi Cindy, fellow Car Wizard subscriber loyal watcher here. 😊 Thank you for sharing the details on your purchase on the 1990 Toyota Camry purchase for your son. My answer is yes, I believe $2,500 is a great price for a car of this description. I live in San Diego, CA and I would be hard pressed to find a good Camry for under $5,000. I’m a big believer in the older cars being much better built, and this being a Toyota that was well maintained, I’d say you struck gold on this one. 153k miles is really low mileage for the age. I have a 2001 Mercedes ML 430 with over 252k miles on the odometer, and it’s still running strong. It needs a repaint since it’s been outside all these years, but mechanically, it’s good. But back to your car, I love those old Camrys. I remember seeing that generation a lot back in the day, but now they are getting very hard to find. And yeah, that rust can be fixed. You’re lucky the rust wasn’t anywhere else. That’s great news! Now I’ve saved the best for last here for you. I also have a Toyota but you’ll never guess what it is. 😉 It is a 1969 Corona sedan with a 2 speed automatic transmission. Pretty cool and funky car. 😆 So by comparison, your 1990 Camry is still a baby! 🤣
So glad you’re on here watching Car Wizard’s channel! Hope I’ve been helpful for you and best of luck with keeping your 1990 Toyota Camry alive and running for many more years!! 😊
If underneath is good, and you got ALL the service records and all, $2500 is honestly a steal even though it's a 1990 Toyota. The mileage isn't bad whatsoever and knowing about every service is so valuable, you can keep it running pretty much forever so long as the underside stays intact and rust free
Sounds like you got a good deal on a good car!
My daughter left the interior light on at the mall in another town. The battery was dead, so she call AAA. The tow truck driver said it was very rare to get a call for a Toyota.
Love the music! My 2.4 Ecotech died a horrible death. I took the Wizard's advice and just bought an 05 Highlander. I'm done with American. Time will tell and fingers crossed.
What year was it and how many miles on it?
05 126K miles@@petercollingwood522
In this video you also touched on the lovely Alfa 75. That vehicle is fitted with a 15-pin plastic connector behind the dash that tends to suffer a slow death due to an undersize pin connector that overheats the plastic body of the connector. It's due to the larger diameter earth (black) wire that draws a lot of current and thus continually overheats - which increases its resistance over time - and then begins to compromise the other adjacent pins/wires within the plastic connector. In the video where you featured the Alfa 75, you stated that you ran separate earth wire to the blower motor which indicates the Alfa 75 has the aforesaid issue. I have viewed many Alfa 75s, and in 19 out of 20 cases all possessed the same overheated (melted) 15-pin plastic connector - all due to the earth wire that draws to much current for the size of the connector pin. In order to address the issue, I replaced the 15-pin plastic connector - it took some looking in wrecking yards (car junk yards US) to find one in decent condition (in only modestly melted form) - and used a seperate (single) large spade connector for the black larger diameter earth wire.
This same issue comes up on the Ford Fiesta ST forum, usually occurring when somebody continues to fill the fuel tank clear up to the neck after the pump shuts off.
EVAP system
I'm thinking that's the only system that is definitely connected to filling up the gas tank.
The other problems although it could be intermittent are not specifically having to do with filling the tank with fuel
Off the bat same thoughts too, lol bad gas cap does that on some too 😅
I agree!
The intro was a big upgrade. Thanks for the change!
Great video. Thanks for real car repair information without silly hype and melodrama. Really appreciate it. 😅
A big thank you, I purchased an 03 Highlander Limited 168k
Super well maintained with documentation
Love that little SUV
It starts and runs like a new car
Why did I even look for such a vehicle, because you Mr Wizard highly recommended that for a budget used car
😊 thank you for all you do
My initial guess was EVAP system either the charcoal canister or a bad gas cap. Purge valve or vacuum leak would have been next on my list.
My old Toyota would need a new gas cap every 2-3 years. No clue what caused that to happen as it was very consistent, I've never had that issue with any other car, but as it was the only issue I had with the Toyota I just accepted it.
My 2002 Lexus ES300 may be boring to some but not to me. Yes it has 16 in rims and cushy sidewalls which absorb the bumps and potholes with ease. The quality of materials and craftsmanship is unparalleled. Everything still works like new. The 4th gen ES (02-06) were the best built ES’s. Best is it was a one owner that I bought two years ago w 160k miles, all maintenance done at a Lexus dealership including timing belt, water pump and valve cover gasket replacement at 88k miles. I did have to replace some 20-year-old original OEM parts (starter, alternator, calipers) since then but now with 179K miles it will last me 10+ years and I don’t plan on selling it.
I have a 2003, just recently rolled over 170k. Fantastic car, I don’t see myself ever selling it
@@spanglish04nice. There’s an 02 like mine posted on RUclips about 4 years ago with 596k highway miles on original engine and transmission. Car is amazing. I also replaced all 4 struts (rears started leaking after I bought it) and OEM AC compressor which started squealing but still worked.
I change my own synthetic oil every 5k miles.
That's easily one of the best cars Lexus Toyota ever made. Well done keeping up on the maintenance! We'd have a lot more cars on the road of that vintage if people were more maintenance minded. I have a 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid with 250k miles on it still going strong after all these years. My dream is to pass it down to my daughter in 5 years, ready to drive for another 100k miles.
@@WorkshopGregthanks ! It’s a beautiful car. You can’t go wrong with a Camry hybrid either
I have an '03 with 275K miles. Bought it 3 years ago with 150K for $3200. I use it for my gigwork side hustle, and put roughly 30K miles on it per year. It's never let me down, and looks and drives like it has less than 100K on it. Best car I've ever owned. I will gladly drop $2K for repairs if ever needed. Maintenance is definitely key.
Intro is great finally the yacht is gone .
Never thought I'd see the wizard yeet something 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yeet? Does he secretly watch Puddins Fab Shop????
I was hoping we would get a second angle of the toss, like Eric from I Do Cars spiking water pumps into the trash🤣
I'm a mechanic myself, and I love watching your videos so much. Thank you for making them!
Funny thing is older subarus (between 92-200X) will have issues with these too. It wont run rough and not start, but what it will do is keep you from pumping gas into the tank... 10-20 cents at a time. 45 mins fuel ups that you only get half a tank before you give up. It can also back up into the charcoal box and actually start to seep out..
My dad has a 2021 highlander. I remember when he picked it up, we were shocked at how nice they were. I had a 2015 Lexus and the Highlander quality was pretty much as good. Nice and reliable cars.
Lexus and Toyota are the same vehicle
Intro is nice, keeps things fresh.
These Highlanders are amazing, they have beautifully proportioned styling and their quality and comfort was almost on par with the more premium Lexus models.
Toyotas are just amazing and I cant stress that enough. It's been almost 3 years since I bought a 92 Corolla wagon 5spd with 143k and it has not let me down at all.
Toyota and Lexus... The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection, period.
man i usually dont comment on videos but i was always interested in how the evap system works. probably the best descriptiion of the purge system i have ever heard. great great job keep up the good work
Had an evap code on my truck recently. Traced it to a leaking gasket on the vent valve. Easy to get to - cleaned it and applied a little silicone grease, problem solved. Gotta love free repairs.
The irony is that, after WWII, as America was rebuilding Japan, the engineers from General Motors were sent to Japan to show Toyota engineers how we engineer and assemble cars. They learned from us. Now the worst cars they make are a billion times better quality than the best cars GM can make.
Don't feel bad, I'm German & won't touch German cars either 😂.
William Deming had a lot to do with how post war Japan developed in terms of industry and quality.
The Japanese philosophy was to take from others and make it better. Back in the 80s, I heard stories of rich Japanese people buying new Cadillacs, having the taken apart and rebuilt correctly.
The irony is delicious.
@@tony_25or6to4 Can you imagine a properly built Fleetwood Brougham? Although in the 80s they’d have had to replace the engine completely because neither the HT4100 nor the Olds 350 Diesel could be “rebuilt” - the 4100s had bad block castings and weak distributor cam drive gears, and the 350 diesel was just junk parts with junk design.
Nicely explained, Car Wizard. Thank you!
You guys implementing a guessing game element is just a genius idea for audience engagement as a cherry on top to already-excellent videos.
Thanks for the video. No time wasted on "this is a steering wheel, this is a seat...."
nd the Figaro looks like a Nash from the 60's awesome.
As a Toyota/Lexus tech, As soon as I read the title I knew what this was, lol. purge valves are a very common issue on early 2GR FKS engines. For some reason on this engine the purge valve failing can set codes and cause symptoms that make it seem like a more expensive issue, like an injector or fuel pump.
My Audi A7 throws an EVAP code whenever I top it off above when the gas pump kicks off. I stopped “overfilling” it and there have been no more codes. Thanks for the lesson on that system!
4 Evap system, I could not think of that on my own! Very interesting
We have a 2015 Highlander. Just shy of 79,000 miles and it is a beast! Except for the typical lousy OEM tires that only lasted about 35,000 miles, normal oil and filter changes, the only other items we've spent money on are wiper blades, cabin air filters and air filters. The rear wiper blade finally gave up the ghost in January 2023. Oh, and brake pads still have approximately 50% life.
I'm so glad you posted this. We have the same year Highlander, and now I'll know what to change if this ever happens.
I own a 2018 XLE AWD. Installed s 2 in lift and Falken Wildpeaks. I love the thing.
Love the videos. I like mixing up the music.
I’m worried about parking the convertible Ferrari under the old car. I’d hate for any oil to drip onto the Ferrari seats.
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for continuing to provide them.
Love these type of videos ! 👍
I’ve been having the same problem with my suburban, I’m so glad I watched this video.
As always, very informative great video. Cool new intro also.
Thanks for sharing this!
I really love the Highlander and aside from needing a bath, it looks beautiful
I think it'd be some king of fuel tank breather issue. Being really full means there's less air, meaning it'd resist fuel level change easier... but since I don't see that on the list, I'd go with evap system maybe?
I was thinking the same
Can we please get an interview with “No Muffler Newton.”😂
Love the new intro. Very chilled and short and sweet!
4:31
Or a Mazda3. They are also really affordable and they are so reliable! I haven’t done anything to it except for regular maintenance like an oil change or replacing the battery.
My '19 Ford Transit Connect van does the exact same thing. Any time you fuel up, car will crank/no start until it sits for approx 30min then it'll hesitantly start and run poorly for a few minutes. Beyond that, it will run perfectly hot or cold.
Thanks for explaining the evap system i didn't understand it i just understood that it burn unburn gases
But that’s the thing about fun cars- you never know if you’re going to get to the destination each time you start it. (I’ve owned two at this point and I know the feeling)
I only knew this problem, because my daughter had a Mazda 323? The little Chevy cavalier size 4 Door when she was in high school.
Basically the same symptoms. My trusted mechanic are very good and similar to your mechanics And were baffled.
I never bothered the Mazda dealer because you know they’re usually idiots. My wife found the answer in a forum online. I like these interactive, guess the problem videos.
Very good point about the Toyota, but you forgot about one of my favorite Toyotas ,the infamous FJ Cruiser
Holy goodness.. your up there with Scotty and the rest that are real mechanics.
Same thing happened on my Buick Enclave with 120k miles. $25 part and a trip to the auto parts store to borrow OBDII scanner to reset code. I felt like a hero.
I would rather see more actual on hands diagnostics and repair episodes. Intro music ok as long as it limited in duration. Thanks for your videos.
grimes needs a fat bonus car wizard! Dude is a car genius!
Like the new intro definitely need more Mrs Wiz
From my similar recent experience with a 2007 with the 2az-fe engine, I was certain it was an evap issue.
Either the purge valve, a vacuum leak, or in my case, the purge valve solenoid was bad.
Once I changed it out, no more check engine light, it idled better, more mpg, and no more hard/no starts after refueling!😊
Funny you mentioned fuel pump fail after fill up. I've had a couple customers that had that happen. It sucks because the tank is full of fuel.
I guessed evap system. I just changed the cartridge/system in my daughters RAV4. It throws up all the warning lights, and I think I learned on this channel, that that is a sign that there is something wrong with the emissions system. Code said something about canister purge valve. On the RAV4 it's hard to get just the valve so I got the whole canister assembly, jacked up one side of the car and the replacement was pretty easy. All fixed. Hopefully it'll go another 150,000 miles.
I know that model very well my mom has the same one same year too lol I first time driving it it had so many bells and whistles that I was just not use to having on my cars a little overwhelming to drive 😅
Excellent presentation!
The opening . . . 3 out of 10
I had this same car and drove it in the ground doing do or dash and multiple out-of-state drives and NEVER NEVER HAD A PROBLEM!
Really love theses series!!!
Dear Mr Car Wizard, love your videos and the new intro. You give me great advice on fixing my 25 year old Mx5. At the end of your video you should touch the car with a magic wizard wand signalling another fixed car🚗
My 2017 Highlander (I4) backfired 2 days ago on the wife in the morning when she started it. Cloud of white smoke. She said it was difficult to start and then got the bang, white smoke. Shut down and had it towed to dealer. They did not see any codes or nothing in history for misfire. Odd. Replaced the plugs, cleaned throttle body, fuel injectors, (don't think they pulled them) and no other problem. But why nothing showed up on the history when they scanned it? Great show, like the cut to the chase videos.
I have an 03 gmc jukon. No trouble at all. I love it.
My guess before you gave choices was the wrong octane gas. Evap system makes more sense after watching the video. Great video.
With newer cars, that's not really a big deal. It might not be ideal, but the computer will compensate for it.
Your regular intro is so far the best.
I never knew I needed Car Wizard's "yeet" until today lol
Hyundai and Kia vehicles are AT LEAST better options still than most of the Chevys, BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, etc...
Like the new intro 👍🏻
One of the most stout SUVs on the market👍You can’t beat a Toyota product! Ask my 2005 RX 330 with 215K on the clock ⏰
Can’t beat Toyota😂 That was a good one
The new intro looks and sounds great.
the intro seem modern and entertaining /i like it
Like the new intro!!! I would suspect a dodgy sensor or valve on the EVAP.
Great information
Jazzy intro! Feelin’ the Wiz’s groove
Ahhh I wish you would go over that Jeep pickup. You don't see hardly any of those anymore that aren't totally rotted away. I'd love to see you go over it even though there isn't anything majorly wrong with it. If nothing else those old AMCs are interesting due to being a mishmash of parts from a lot of different companies.
Intro is much improved, add more flashy cars LOL, good content. If can add more on issues with Honda/Acura I would appreciate it!
I like this generation Toyota Highlander...
This is good info, since we just got a 2019 (after our 2018 got totaled by an 18-wheeler). Quick note about the possible fuel pump: alot of these gen 3 highlanders actually have a recall for the fuel pump. Found that out from a vin search on our 2018. We never had it fail and we had it from 32k miles to 86k, so idk if it was done before then or just never failed, but still possible
Nice intro and always great content.
****Great info, surprised that a 2019 Highlander is got this issue while my 2007 lexus es350 with 104k mikes, which shares the same engine, never malfunctioned. I have always used lucas fuel treatment on each fill up.
Do not top of the gas tank after the pump handle shuts off.
I read that it can cause this solenoid valve to fail and create the problems you described here.
This happened to my 2008 Hyundai Santa fe.
Autozone had the replacement OEM part and problem was solved.The location of the valve is between the firewall and the engine and is a major pain to replace without specal tools.
What's your opinion on reliability now that the Highlander comes with a 2.4 liter turbo engine?
My Ridgeline (1st gen) hates KwikShop gas. It's just consistently sluggish on their gas. I do QT as often as I can, Phillips 66 2nd. People say gas is gas, but this I think is proof yes it is different. At least here.
It may not even be the gas itself, it may be their storage systems. It's generally best to go to larger chains and newer stations. Another thing to consider is the topography of the station itself. If the tanks are in a spot where drainage isn't great, that's an issue.
Love our 2018 Highlander. Only issue is with the Platinum version which has the Smoked Chrome wheels. They will flake apart after a year or two. Mechanical wise, the best car ever.
I much prefer the new intro. The ones going back a year+ were a bit "loud" I guess, especially the early ones.
The new one seems to be a little shorter too. I like it. There’s no need for long intros on YT.
Love that J10. Best looking pickup ever built.
Maybe one last thank you to the guy who wrote your last intro as it set the stage for your current levels of success......?
It's generic copyright free music
LOVE THE INTRO
Having ran many makes of cars over the years and spent a fortune on repairs that didn't always solve the issues
i decided i wanted reliability and not a car that would make the neighbours jealous..
So i worked my way up from a Toyota Corrola and now have a Lexus and fingers crossed other than wear and tear
items they have never let me down unlike the not so great cars from Germany or worse still Italy that spent more
time at the dealers than on my drive.
My Lexus suv is an 03 and does great! Love it
I prefer this intro over the older one 🤔
I love your videos I always learn so much and I own a Toyota Corolla and my dad owns a 2023 Toyota Camry SE all wheel drive and I own a 2020 Corolla wouldn’t change it
I’ve seen GM 3.6 cause fires from bad evap purge solenoid. Backfires and catch the intake on fire.
I had a similar issue to my 2017 Escape. The Evap Vapor Purge Solenoid was bad causing the long hard starts and rough running after every fill up.
I love theses kind of trivia game because im actually learning why it's not a possibility :D
Our 2019 Highlander Hybrid Platinum was a tough one to get rid of. We loved it. Wouldn’t tow our Airstream. 2021 Sequoia Platinum replaced it.
Fuel tank, purge valve or vent valve. I had to replace a few fuel tanks on chargers for that same concern.
I never keep a new car for longer than 3 years and as a result have had many makes and models. I purchased a new 2016 Limited Platinum Highlander and kept it 3 years only to trade it in on a 2019 Limited Platinum Highlander Hybrid in that pearl white with saddle color interior. I've had it four years now which is the longest I've owned a car. They Highlanders handle well, are comfortable and the most important thing is other than routine maintenance and tires, I've never ever had a problem or repair on either of them.