I agree 100 percent with you friend! I am the same as you. I do not want to just sit back and listen to only the bands I grew up with. I truly believe there is brilliant artists and bands today, it is just harder to find them and they are not promoted and played on radio. I will admit that it can be frustrating to seek out new bands because it takes time. Time that I really do not have much of with the craziness of life. But for me it is extremely satisfying to find that next favorite band. To find bands like Nospun and Azure make it worth it! Great video! Sending love!❤
I second this comment as I grew up listening to classic rock and Marillion was the band that got me started me with Prog way back in 1984 and I started heading that way when I was younger, but as Eric said about getting busy in life and forgetting about listening to Prog, but as life has started to slow down (especially during covid) I've been able to get back into prog and it made me remember how I got into it and how good it made me feel back then and now having that same feeling again! And now with new prog bands that I have recently grown to love like Big big train, The Pineapple Thief, The Round Window, Dim Gray and many many more new bands that I've listened to in the last 5 yrs. Are truly amazing! What's so frustrating for me is I try to share these bands with my friends that grew up with Classic rock and are stuck in that mode, and they have no interest in listening to it that's so frustrating for me as I try to share this great music which personally think that Prog bands today take a bit from 60's ,70's, 80's, 90's, and early 2000's rock.... Even classical music and combining it all together to make their mark in the history of music! It's really ashame more and more people don't listen to prog as gives me such a great feeling to listen to a great prog song and afterwards you're saying to yourself "wow what a track"!!! That's my thoughts!! ✌️
Good music is good music! It doesn't matter when it was written or produced. Some new prog is awesome. The Chronicles of Father Robin is as good as any from the 60s or 70s!
Hey Nathan! Thanks for the vid. New or old, there is plenty of music for everyone! Seems as we get older our time to listen to music gets less and less. So much music, so little time.👍🎵🎼🎶😎
You nailed it, we tend to romanticize the music we discover during our developmental ages. That’s why it’s important to keep growing as a person and explore life and music like there’s still everything to learn. I think those who aren’t open to new music are the same who aren’t open to new experiences. Know it all syndrome mixed with comfort zones. As you mentioned though, it can be difficult finding hidden gems or simply music that resonates with you amongst the ocean of content
Just looking through a Sounds Album Charts October 1972, now this is what the great unwashed were buying included are.Catch Bull Cat Stevens, Close to the Edge, Sabbath vol4, Foxtrot, Ziggy, Trilogy, Roxy,Schools Out and in search of space. So yes clearly that is a fine chart, never mind all the ones that miss out..I think I've bought around 100 new Lps and Cds this year, some old but mainly new, some stinkers of course, Albion, Verbal Delerium, Mystery, Cyan, Caligulas Horse ,Orion all recommended.
A lot of my favourite bands continually evolve their sound. That is one of the elements that make a band "progressive" to me. Of course I love to hear what previously ignited my passion, and that will never go away for "classic" "timeless" music. But there is nothing like the excitement of hearing something new. After all that is what got you into that great band in the past. Something struck you that you hadn't heard before and made you think, feel and understand something new. Gotta have novelty.
I think you nailed alot of it. Especially the idea of the first turn on holding a lot of weight through time. Very interesting to think about and appreciate and, I dare say, respect the strength of subjectivity in tastes. I so appreciate how you not only don't perpetuate but fight against the tribalism that can be so sadly present in art. As someone that is making music and trying to find my/our own voice that we hope some will find hits them right, it helps to keep going, even when it gets hard at times.
I genuinely believe that it probably was..but I'm 70 years old so clearly biased. Clearly it was more original when it first evolved, this of course is self evident..I think it was Record Labels and Money, Prog as we know it probably evolved over here in the UK. The prog labels were often owned by guys not much older than the artists.. Vertigo, Harvest Chysalis, Charisma, Island. Nobody needed to be a millionaire, so they were left to create what they liked..but don't imagine it was Cheapskate..Curved Air back in 1970 were given an advance by Warners of £100,000...an unbelievable amount of money! In fairness though alot of bands probably sell more product now than they did back in the 1970s..Certainly, King Crimson, VDGG and Genesis..not so much ELP, Yes and the Floyd?
I have always thought to myself that one of the reasons why there is a difference twixt old school and new is simply down to melancholy. The bands from the UK back in the late 1960s all had experience of deep sadness, be it still the bombed out areas from ww2, relatives or patents who has died, the abject poverty of a completely bankrupt Post War Britain, led to an unmitigated sadness in some of the best Prog, Thick as a Brick, Tarkus, Suppers Ready, Epitaph, Refugees etc.
At least within the progressive metal scene, I try to keep a finger on the pulse of what's happening and approach it from the mindset that... these are bands trying to move a genre forward. So when bands like Periphery and Tesseract came out, instead of crapping on them for being some weird new thing I don't understand, I tried to give it a chance. I think the same with bands like Sleep Token, who are really controversial in the metal scene right now, but I look at it kind of like you do, and same with the bands I previously mentioned - this is going to be SOMEONE's introduction to prog-metal, and they're going to absolutely LOVE it, and then they're going to take the same approach you did, by checking out the bands that influenced them. Maybe that's why people like us are an exception to the rule of growing older and thinking all new music sucks: we remind ourselves what it was like to discover our favourite music - from our era - for the first time and look back at where their influences came from and that gives us the understanding that no matter what we think of the quality of new music, it's going to be someone's foot in the door that gets them checking out other bands and learning.
I will say something as a refutation of Beato's issues with the technological aspects of new music though: Here's the thing, in older times, a musician had to be talented at playing their instrument, for sure. But that's *IT*. They also maybe had to be a good songwriter if they were the primary songwriter of their band or if the band was a collaborative effort. But that's all they had to be good at. Writing songs and performing them. Nowadays, however, even in more mainstream genres, with the advent of home recording and more digital recording and more accessible software, and big changes in the business structure regarding record labels, streaming and more, artists are having to know a lot more about how making an album works than simply writing and playing their songs. They need to know how to produce a record. How to engineer a record in the studio (ie mic placements, setting up the right gear). How to release and distribute a record to the public. Hell, they gotta do their own promotion and work out details for their own tours half the time now. Yes, the process of making an album is easier in some ways, and the tools available to musicians are at a level never seen before, but musicians nowadays have to wear so many more hats and learn so many more things to become successful that it makes up for the lack of difficulty in bringing a song to life.
Old prog is overrated. People need get hell out of past. Only fools listen to top 100 prog archives alblums over and over. There all this new stuff within last 25-30 years. Get out of 70s folks if I got listen to yes or genesis one more time I’ll vomit. How many freaking times must u listen to selling England by pound or in court crimson king before you don’t vomit from it I got alblums memorized I don’t even need alblum or vinyl anymore. I love obscure 70s prog bands like ange and atoll and other unknown bands or ones less talked about. I prefer foreign vocals 70s allt more then same top prog gold fiasco the stuff is boring. People will go the alblums are masterpieces. Really are they really masterpieces? How many times must u oversaturate yourself with same 25 alblums before there not masterpieces anymore? It like superhero movies it good we got Batman and iron man movies now that all we have 25 years later I’m sick of it. Batman 99 iron man 32 etc move on to something new. Gen z is worst generation it like they want eat macaroni and cheese same meal everyday for 10 plus years that what listening to same top 25 prog alblums over and over. It’s also equivalent of super heroes movies how many times must u eat same meal before you fools are sick of it? This is why I sick this generation there stuck on over exposure and over saturation of same thing they don’t want new they just want nostalgia it’s getting old fast.
1960s, 70s to mid 80s 100% 👍🎶
Classic Prog, Rock & Jazz Fusion 🎼
I agree 100 percent with you friend! I am the same as you. I do not want to just sit back and listen to only the bands I grew up with. I truly believe there is brilliant artists and bands today, it is just harder to find them and they are not promoted and played on radio. I will admit that it can be frustrating to seek out new bands because it takes time. Time that I really do not have much of with the craziness of life. But for me it is extremely satisfying to find that next favorite band. To find bands like Nospun and Azure make it worth it! Great video! Sending love!❤
I second this comment as I grew up listening to classic rock and Marillion was the band that got me started me with Prog way back in 1984 and I started heading that way when I was younger, but as Eric said about getting busy in life and forgetting about listening to Prog, but as life has started to slow down (especially during covid) I've been able to get back into prog and it made me remember how I got into it and how good it made me feel back then and now having that same feeling again! And now with new prog bands that I have recently grown to love like Big big train, The Pineapple Thief, The Round Window, Dim Gray and many many more new bands that I've listened to in the last 5 yrs. Are truly amazing! What's so frustrating for me is I try to share these bands with my friends that grew up with Classic rock and are stuck in that mode, and they have no interest in listening to it that's so frustrating for me as I try to share this great music which personally think that Prog bands today take a bit from 60's ,70's, 80's, 90's, and early 2000's rock.... Even classical music and combining it all together to make their mark in the history of music! It's really ashame more and more people don't listen to prog as gives me such a great feeling to listen to a great prog song and afterwards you're saying to yourself "wow what a track"!!! That's my thoughts!! ✌️
Good music is good music! It doesn't matter when it was written or produced. Some new prog is awesome. The Chronicles of Father Robin is as good as any from the 60s or 70s!
Hey Nathan! Thanks for the vid. New or old, there is plenty of music for everyone! Seems as we get older our time to listen to music gets less and less. So much music, so little time.👍🎵🎼🎶😎
You nailed it, we tend to romanticize the music we discover during our developmental ages. That’s why it’s important to keep growing as a person and explore life and music like there’s still everything to learn. I think those who aren’t open to new music are the same who aren’t open to new experiences. Know it all syndrome mixed with comfort zones. As you mentioned though, it can be difficult finding hidden gems or simply music that resonates with you amongst the ocean of content
Just looking through a Sounds Album Charts October 1972, now this is what the great unwashed were buying included are.Catch Bull Cat Stevens, Close to the Edge, Sabbath vol4, Foxtrot, Ziggy, Trilogy, Roxy,Schools Out and in search of space. So yes clearly that is a fine chart, never mind all the ones that miss out..I think I've bought around 100 new Lps and Cds this year, some old but mainly new, some stinkers of course, Albion, Verbal Delerium, Mystery, Cyan, Caligulas Horse ,Orion all recommended.
A lot of my favourite bands continually evolve their sound. That is one of the elements that make a band "progressive" to me. Of course I love to hear what previously ignited my passion, and that will never go away for "classic" "timeless" music. But there is nothing like the excitement of hearing something new. After all that is what got you into that great band in the past. Something struck you that you hadn't heard before and made you think, feel and understand something new. Gotta have novelty.
I think you nailed alot of it. Especially the idea of the first turn on holding a lot of weight through time. Very interesting to think about and appreciate and, I dare say, respect the strength of subjectivity in tastes. I so appreciate how you not only don't perpetuate but fight against the tribalism that can be so sadly present in art. As someone that is making music and trying to find my/our own voice that we hope some will find hits them right, it helps to keep going, even when it gets hard at times.
I genuinely believe that it probably was..but I'm 70 years old so clearly biased. Clearly it was more original when it first evolved, this of course is self evident..I think it was Record Labels and Money, Prog as we know it probably evolved over here in the UK. The prog labels were often owned by guys not much older than the artists.. Vertigo, Harvest Chysalis, Charisma, Island. Nobody needed to be a millionaire, so they were left to create what they liked..but don't imagine it was Cheapskate..Curved Air back in 1970 were given an advance by Warners of £100,000...an unbelievable amount of money! In fairness though alot of bands probably sell more product now than they did back in the 1970s..Certainly, King Crimson, VDGG and Genesis..not so much ELP, Yes and the Floyd?
Great episode!!!!
I have always thought to myself that one of the reasons why there is a difference twixt old school and new is simply down to melancholy. The bands from the UK back in the late 1960s all had experience of deep sadness, be it still the bombed out areas from ww2, relatives or patents who has died, the abject poverty of a completely bankrupt Post War Britain, led to an unmitigated sadness in some of the best Prog, Thick as a Brick, Tarkus, Suppers Ready, Epitaph, Refugees etc.
Nathan, when you guys gonna listen to some Seventh Wonder? :)
At least within the progressive metal scene, I try to keep a finger on the pulse of what's happening and approach it from the mindset that... these are bands trying to move a genre forward. So when bands like Periphery and Tesseract came out, instead of crapping on them for being some weird new thing I don't understand, I tried to give it a chance. I think the same with bands like Sleep Token, who are really controversial in the metal scene right now, but I look at it kind of like you do, and same with the bands I previously mentioned - this is going to be SOMEONE's introduction to prog-metal, and they're going to absolutely LOVE it, and then they're going to take the same approach you did, by checking out the bands that influenced them. Maybe that's why people like us are an exception to the rule of growing older and thinking all new music sucks: we remind ourselves what it was like to discover our favourite music - from our era - for the first time and look back at where their influences came from and that gives us the understanding that no matter what we think of the quality of new music, it's going to be someone's foot in the door that gets them checking out other bands and learning.
I will say something as a refutation of Beato's issues with the technological aspects of new music though:
Here's the thing, in older times, a musician had to be talented at playing their instrument, for sure. But that's *IT*. They also maybe had to be a good songwriter if they were the primary songwriter of their band or if the band was a collaborative effort. But that's all they had to be good at. Writing songs and performing them.
Nowadays, however, even in more mainstream genres, with the advent of home recording and more digital recording and more accessible software, and big changes in the business structure regarding record labels, streaming and more, artists are having to know a lot more about how making an album works than simply writing and playing their songs. They need to know how to produce a record. How to engineer a record in the studio (ie mic placements, setting up the right gear). How to release and distribute a record to the public. Hell, they gotta do their own promotion and work out details for their own tours half the time now. Yes, the process of making an album is easier in some ways, and the tools available to musicians are at a level never seen before, but musicians nowadays have to wear so many more hats and learn so many more things to become successful that it makes up for the lack of difficulty in bringing a song to life.
Old prog is overrated. People need get hell out of past. Only fools listen to top 100 prog archives alblums over and over. There all this new stuff within last 25-30 years. Get out of 70s folks if I got listen to yes or genesis one more time I’ll vomit.
How many freaking times must u listen to selling England by pound or in court crimson king before you don’t vomit from it I got alblums memorized I don’t even need alblum or vinyl anymore.
I love obscure 70s prog bands like ange and atoll and other unknown bands or ones less talked about. I prefer foreign vocals 70s allt more then same top prog gold fiasco the stuff is boring.
People will go the alblums are masterpieces. Really are they really masterpieces? How many times must u oversaturate yourself with same 25 alblums before there not masterpieces anymore?
It like superhero movies it good we got Batman and iron man movies now that all we have 25 years later I’m sick of it. Batman 99 iron man 32 etc move on to something new.
Gen z is worst generation it like they want eat macaroni and cheese same meal everyday for 10 plus years that what listening to same top 25 prog alblums over and over.
It’s also equivalent of super heroes movies how many times must u eat same meal before you fools are sick of it? This is why I sick this generation there stuck on over exposure and over saturation of same thing they don’t want new they just want nostalgia it’s getting old fast.