"The use of heaters, windshield wipers, and radios has further increased and complicated the electrical work of the service man." I wish things were still this 'complicated'.
Nowadays: Backup cameras, heated seats, power windows, mirror de-frosters, CD players, GPS, rear window de-froster, power mirrors, and air conditioners have even further complicated the electrical work.
I had a broken alternator bracket on my 01 v6 accord yesterday. Part stores dont sells this part by itself. My buddy from high school looked at it, he said let's take this off, I handed him the two broken pieces. He said "oh yeah, I'll be back in about 20 mins. This thing was no bigger than 2 inches in any direction. Multiple holes and 2 different sized bolts welded to it and the whole thing was an L shaped beam. He came back and it looked like a brand new part.it was even painted black. I was super impressed. Put it back in and my belt doesnt squeak anymore. The spirit of this time is still alive and well but it's not in the corporations and franchisees. It's in your home town, your city. Everyone has something they are good at. Build yourself a network in your local area and you'll never have to scrap a car.
I am a heavy diesel mechanic of 10 years and this is seriously an amazing no nonsense video of what it’s like to be a mechanic in todays world. If you take pride in your work and are always hungry to learn even off the clock you will go far. This is an amazing video!!
My grandfathers tank crew were all killed by a German fighter plane somewhere in shit hole France and the Army command pulled him off tanks to work on tank engines in the rear because he was an EXCELLENT mechanic. All his buddies got blown up by Panzers and Germann 88s. Being an excellent mechanic saved his life.
@@colemancalgary5260 Takes one to know one. Only a cowardly piece of shit hiding in the internet would call a ww2 combat vet that went through hell and back a coward you're probably a bottom dwelling shit bird civilian too that never ever served a day in the military!
2:05 - "A coil and condenser is necessary to step up the current enough to jump the spark gaps" - Wrong - The voltage is stepped up, the current is reduced. Your supposed to put a large resistor just before the coil to 1. Stop the coil from over heating 2. Prolong the life of the spark plug ground electrodes. If anyone was interested.
interesting film. it's weird cause there are cases in the film where the mechanic's job was simpler (cars were simpler and a lot more straightforward), but in other cases harder (you had to know everything from mechanical work to body work in order to be successful). makes me almost wish I was a mechanic back then instead of being one now (which I am).
Stealerships have no interest in paying the salaries of competent technicians. They want young & inexperienced warm bodies that will work cheap. The best technicians left dealerships in the 80s to open their own shops. Now, thanks to over regulation and the costs associated with running up to date shops, those old guys are getting out and few are interested in learning. I can’t blame them. The money just isn’t there like it used to be.
To be fair, being an automotive technician back then was a different job entirely than it is now. It's not that they don't machine their own parts anymore it's that you go to a different kind of auto mechanic to have that done. If you want something machined you go to an engine guy who machines engines and parts. They just seperated the machining from the auto repair because it's a specialized trade in itself and with cars being more complicated nowadays, they seperated the industry into different aspects. It's exactly the same as how auto body repair is its own specialized business from mechanical repair. In some ways, having replaceable parts instead of having to machine new ones has made car repairs a lot cheaper and faster nowadays.
machining really isn't even done much with auto repair today an engine will last the life of the car if taken care of properly or if one does blow up its cheaper to swap in a used engine from a smashed up car than it is to have an engine rebuilt. Most of the work machine shops do now a days is for hot rods, classic restorations, or race cars.
I wish the auto industry was like this still there isn't one shop out there that cares more about speed and getting the customer away than giving them a good experience and doing the job right
Yeah, that's why cars weighed four tons and got five miles to the gallon at 120 horsepower. Thankfully we have composite parts nowadays that outlast metal, weigh a fraction of what cast iron or steel weighs and help cars get 400hp and up with stellar fuel mileage. But keep rebuilding that carburetor if it makes you feel better; my plastic injectors never need maintenance.
@@RockandrollNegro Cars back then were generally lighter than modern cars, sometimes a lot lighter. Composite parts do not outlast metal at all lol. They just figured out that many of the parts don't need to be metal. Give them a couple of decades and many of the invocations and technologies developed in ww2 were passed down to the automotive industry and they started making massive gains in power. The only thing modern cars have over old, is safety and reliability(to a point). A modern car is a lot more likely to start, and needs much less tuning and babying. With those older cars, the average joe could pick up a socket set, wrenches and service manual and have his car fixed within the afternoon. With modern cars, if anything attached to a sensor brakes, you need a thousand dollar scan tool just to get started.
This is not the mechanics fault. Most parts are too complicated to fix or its much cheaper for the customer (you) having parts exchanged rather than paying for several hours of work. If something is faster to change than fix, its better to change it.
@@joshbarth9469 My experience is that many shops don't diagnose to any degree, they just keep swapping parts that may be at fault until they finally replace the defective one. The owner of the car has to pay for all the unneccessary labor and parts.
José @ newton la mecánica antigua era una de la mejores con poca herramienta pero muy sofisticada con exactitud la decana de los tiempos, ahora mas facil con la tecnología q casi el hombre no las repara sino las máquinas, mis respetos al mecanico antiguo que con poco hacia demasiado
That's for sure. My husband was lead tech in Northern California for diagnosing Subaru. Subaru would come to him for some of the cars no one else could diagnose.
‼️‼️‼️ can someone point me in the direction of who this guy is, so I can go and binge watch all his mechanic videos at once?! Please and thank you, it would be much appreciated!
At one time a mechanic was a respectable job and they generally earned decent money. In today's world a mechanic that has all of the skill shown in this video plus so much more now that we have to be able to serve electric cars to and the pay is dog shit even holding 10 state certifications and 5 ASE Certifications! Wtf
Coleman Calgary never seen or heard that. Frankly I like older craftsman tools all mine have held up just fine and I don’t see the need in paying big bucks for a snap on tool that will do the same job as my USA made craftsman
@@colemancalgary5260 New guys are more prone to injury due to their inexperience or the nature of their work. Has nothing to do with the tools. The mechanic who can afford a big shiny box full of Snap On generally doesn't get stuck with the shit work that new guys get stuck with because they've been around long enough to not have to break their backs any longer.
No the mechanics we have now have far more tools and technology to do our job. Back in the day they had far less cars on the road so they had time to do all the machining. Theres alot of shops now we call them machine shops if u wamt transmission re built u go to a transmission shop if u want an alignment u go to a tire shop if u want paint u go to a body shop if u want classic restoration u go to a restoration shop if u want upholstry u go to an upholstry shop. If u want computer programming u go tl a tuner shop if want a windshield or window tinting u go to a glass shop if u want a stereo or radio u go to a audio shop. imaging trying to fit all those tools and equipment into a single shop. That would be one big ass shop!!!! Nd the stuff listed is only a few things i mean if u wanted emissions checked or inspected u would go to a smog shop. Thats alot of stuff to know i mean alot pf equipment alot of tools alot of knowledge is required to do this stuff. Basic tools can u get u far but some tools u absolutely need of u want to be efficient in getting the job done in a timely manner nd the diagnostics tools can only do so much i mean we need the internet nd sometines even the internet dont got information. Like wiring schematics or voltage references nd parts testing procedures. At the shop i work in we got all data mitchell pro demand chilton haynes everything for information the funny thing os when theres a 2019 car coming into the shop cus its out of warranty cus someone voided warranty nd we gotta figure out shit with no information.
Sounds nothing like Gary Cooper. Did you just pick a random old movie star out of the air? "This sounds like Lair Cregar to me."
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What makes this video so believable is the 'technician' making 22 cents an hour in the sanitary white lab coat.Because that's how a guy preparing to work on your seldom maintained vehicle with grease,road dirt and oil would dress.
It was both. Many of the dealerships worked off flat rate estimates but independents were usually parts plus hourly labor Even flat rate shops had to charge additional hourly labor if the job was more difficult that shown in the flat rate book. Really, nothing much has changed since then in terms of shop charges. What changed is the simplicity of how cars were built. Almost every part of a car could either be cheaply replaced or was able to be repaired in the shop. For example, it was rare to actually replace a whole generator unless it had some kind of physical damage like from a collision Everything from the generator case to the windings could be rebuilt in the shop or from some inexpensive parts kept in stock. When I was a helper in the early 60's, I don't remember us replacing a whole generation with a new one. Now, if the right error shows up, you alternator gets trashed and is replaced with a new one. The days of the shade tree mechanic are just about gone.
imagine the "rat's nest" of wiring their will be in cars in the future. people in future maybe looking at our cars today and saying how simpler it was.
"The use of heaters, windshield wipers, and radios has further increased and complicated the electrical work of the service man."
I wish things were still this 'complicated'.
Nowadays: Backup cameras, heated seats, power windows, mirror de-frosters, CD players, GPS, rear window de-froster, power mirrors, and air conditioners have even further complicated the electrical work.
I had a broken alternator bracket on my 01 v6 accord yesterday. Part stores dont sells this part by itself. My buddy from high school looked at it, he said let's take this off, I handed him the two broken pieces. He said "oh yeah, I'll be back in about 20 mins. This thing was no bigger than 2 inches in any direction. Multiple holes and 2 different sized bolts welded to it and the whole thing was an L shaped beam. He came back and it looked like a brand new part.it was even painted black. I was super impressed. Put it back in and my belt doesnt squeak anymore. The spirit of this time is still alive and well but it's not in the corporations and franchisees. It's in your home town, your city. Everyone has something they are good at. Build yourself a network in your local area and you'll never have to scrap a car.
I am a heavy diesel mechanic of 10 years and this is seriously an amazing no nonsense video of what it’s like to be a mechanic in todays world. If you take pride in your work and are always hungry to learn even off the clock you will go far. This is an amazing video!!
As a new mechanic is so interesting to watch how it was done years ago, and with older tehnology
My grandfathers tank crew were all killed by a German fighter plane somewhere in shit hole France and the Army command pulled him off tanks to work on tank engines in the rear because he was an EXCELLENT mechanic. All his buddies got blown up by Panzers and Germann 88s. Being an excellent mechanic saved his life.
Sounds like he was more of a coward to me!
@@colemancalgary5260 Takes one to know one. Only a cowardly piece of shit hiding in the internet would call a ww2 combat vet that went through hell and back a coward you're probably a bottom dwelling shit bird civilian too that never ever served a day in the military!
2:05 - "A coil and condenser is necessary to step up the current enough to jump the spark gaps" - Wrong - The voltage is stepped up, the current is reduced. Your supposed to put a large resistor just before the coil to 1. Stop the coil from over heating 2. Prolong the life of the spark plug ground electrodes. If anyone was interested.
Yes thank you!
interesting film. it's weird cause there are cases in the film where the mechanic's job was simpler (cars were simpler and a lot more straightforward), but in other cases harder (you had to know everything from mechanical work to body work in order to be successful). makes me almost wish I was a mechanic back then instead of being one now (which I am).
Stealerships have no interest in paying the salaries of competent technicians. They want young & inexperienced warm bodies that will work cheap. The best technicians left dealerships in the 80s to open their own shops. Now, thanks to over regulation and the costs associated with running up to date shops, those old guys are getting out and few are interested in learning. I can’t blame them. The money just isn’t there like it used to be.
Those gadgets added around 7 extra wires to the whole car. I'm sure guys complained back then about the "rats nest" of wires under the dash. LOL.
To be fair, being an automotive technician back then was a different job entirely than it is now. It's not that they don't machine their own parts anymore it's that you go to a different kind of auto mechanic to have that done. If you want something machined you go to an engine guy who machines engines and parts. They just seperated the machining from the auto repair because it's a specialized trade in itself and with cars being more complicated nowadays, they seperated the industry into different aspects. It's exactly the same as how auto body repair is its own specialized business from mechanical repair. In some ways, having replaceable parts instead of having to machine new ones has made car repairs a lot cheaper and faster nowadays.
machining really isn't even done much with auto repair today an engine will last the life of the car if taken care of properly or if one does blow up its cheaper to swap in a used engine from a smashed up car than it is to have an engine rebuilt. Most of the work machine shops do now a days is for hot rods, classic restorations, or race cars.
Film was made in 1940 Automotive machinists were very busy in the next few years after you couldn't get a new car or tires etc .
When Scotty Kilmer says, “back when i was a young mechanic” I imagine this
I believe scotty’s era would’ve been the 70s
OAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I wish the auto industry was like this still there isn't one shop out there that cares more about speed and getting the customer away than giving them a good experience and doing the job right
Nice to see this little lovely snippet from about the time my Grandfather started driving.
NO PLASTIC PARTS to throw away- had to learn to repair the old ones.
They did----starters, generators, carburetors, etc.
Yeah, that's why cars weighed four tons and got five miles to the gallon at 120 horsepower. Thankfully we have composite parts nowadays that outlast metal, weigh a fraction of what cast iron or steel weighs and help cars get 400hp and up with stellar fuel mileage. But keep rebuilding that carburetor if it makes you feel better; my plastic injectors never need maintenance.
@@RockandrollNegro Cars back then were generally lighter than modern cars, sometimes a lot lighter. Composite parts do not outlast metal at all lol. They just figured out that many of the parts don't need to be metal. Give them a couple of decades and many of the invocations and technologies developed in ww2 were passed down to the automotive industry and they started making massive gains in power. The only thing modern cars have over old, is safety and reliability(to a point). A modern car is a lot more likely to start, and needs much less tuning and babying. With those older cars, the average joe could pick up a socket set, wrenches and service manual and have his car fixed within the afternoon. With modern cars, if anything attached to a sensor brakes, you need a thousand dollar scan tool just to get started.
Most "technicians" nowadays are glorified parts swappers. A good diagnostician is a rarity.
Lol
This is not the mechanics fault. Most parts are too complicated to fix or its much cheaper for the customer (you) having parts exchanged rather than paying for several hours of work. If something is faster to change than fix, its better to change it.
Very very true!
You sound stupid as fuck. What part needs swapped if you can't diagnose?
@@joshbarth9469 My experience is that many shops don't diagnose to any degree, they just keep swapping parts that may be at fault until they finally replace the defective one. The owner of the car has to pay for all the unneccessary labor and parts.
quite an amazing trip back in time
This is so cool to see how basic simple things ones was 🤷 not anymore 🤯
José @ newton la mecánica antigua era una de la mejores con poca herramienta pero muy sofisticada con exactitud la decana de los tiempos, ahora mas facil con la tecnología q casi el hombre no las repara sino las máquinas, mis respetos al mecanico antiguo que con poco hacia demasiado
That's for sure. My husband was lead tech in Northern California for diagnosing Subaru. Subaru would come to him for some of the cars no one else could diagnose.
‼️‼️‼️ can someone point me in the direction of who this guy is, so I can go and binge watch all his mechanic videos at once?! Please and thank you, it would be much appreciated!
my shop teacher said he knew guys who gave up turning wrenches for a living when the alternator replaced the generator!
At the time this was cutting edge. So cool
Most people today just jumps on utube to see how it's done.
At one time a mechanic was a respectable job and they generally earned decent money. In today's world a mechanic that has all of the skill shown in this video plus so much more now that we have to be able to serve electric cars to and the pay is dog shit even holding 10 state certifications and 5 ASE Certifications! Wtf
I would give anything to be able to go back to THAT time!! I was a Service Tech from 1977-1997... Possibly the WORST period in U.S. built cars...
Not worth the paper they're printed on.
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They forgot the part where you HAVE to buy Snap-On!
A Toolbag it’s not the wrench it’s the wrencher. My dad was a mechanic for twenty years and he used craftsman and sk tools
I know a lot of mechanics who use craftsman they also make less and are more prone to injuries compared to someone who uses snap on tools
Coleman Calgary never seen or heard that. Frankly I like older craftsman tools all mine have held up just fine and I don’t see the need in paying big bucks for a snap on tool that will do the same job as my USA made craftsman
@@colemancalgary5260 New guys are more prone to injury due to their inexperience or the nature of their work. Has nothing to do with the tools. The mechanic who can afford a big shiny box full of Snap On generally doesn't get stuck with the shit work that new guys get stuck with because they've been around long enough to not have to break their backs any longer.
@@rickygarrett8695 he sucks
Oh, wow...That was back when the United States existed.
And spoke English
Back when the United States wasn't circumcised.
In other words, back before liberalism become the disease it is today.
The job of the service manager is to sell you crap you don't need😂
Back in the day when all you needed was fuel, compression, and spark
I want to live back then!!
So you are telling me that they where more prepared man than the “mechanics” we have now
No the mechanics we have now have far more tools and technology to do our job. Back in the day they had far less cars on the road so they had time to do all the machining. Theres alot of shops now we call them machine shops if u wamt transmission re built u go to a transmission shop if u want an alignment u go to a tire shop if u want paint u go to a body shop if u want classic restoration u go to a restoration shop if u want upholstry u go to an upholstry shop. If u want computer programming u go tl a tuner shop if want a windshield or window tinting u go to a glass shop if u want a stereo or radio u go to a audio shop. imaging trying to fit all those tools and equipment into a single shop. That would be one big ass shop!!!! Nd the stuff listed is only a few things i mean if u wanted emissions checked or inspected u would go to a smog shop. Thats alot of stuff to know i mean alot pf equipment alot of tools alot of knowledge is required to do this stuff. Basic tools can u get u far but some tools u absolutely need of u want to be efficient in getting the job done in a timely manner nd the diagnostics tools can only do so much i mean we need the internet nd sometines even the internet dont got information. Like wiring schematics or voltage references nd parts testing procedures. At the shop i work in we got all data mitchell pro demand chilton haynes everything for information the funny thing os when theres a 2019 car coming into the shop cus its out of warranty cus someone voided warranty nd we gotta figure out shit with no information.
Sounds like the voice of Gary Cooper to me.
Sounds nothing like Gary Cooper. Did you just pick a random old movie star out of the air? "This sounds like Lair Cregar to me."
What makes this video so believable is the 'technician' making 22 cents an hour in the sanitary white lab coat.Because that's how a guy preparing to work on your seldom maintained vehicle with grease,road dirt and oil would dress.
And the cars were only worth a few dollars so they would be scrapped on a scale if the repair was over $15 dollars.
Lots and lots of mechanics wore white, and it was still really common even through the 1960s.
Was it flat rate back then or hourly ?
It was both. Many of the dealerships worked off flat rate estimates but independents were usually parts plus hourly labor Even flat rate shops had to charge additional hourly labor if the job was more difficult that shown in the flat rate book. Really, nothing much has changed since then in terms of shop charges.
What changed is the simplicity of how cars were built. Almost every part of a car could either be cheaply replaced or was able to be repaired in the shop. For example, it was rare to actually replace a whole generator unless it had some kind of physical damage like from a collision Everything from the generator case to the windings could be rebuilt in the shop or from some inexpensive parts kept in stock. When I was a helper in the early 60's, I don't remember us replacing a whole generation with a new one. Now, if the right error shows up, you alternator gets trashed and is replaced with a new one. The days of the shade tree mechanic are just about gone.
When they were built right!
Now, just buy a new car. Ohh wait it's 2022 and they cost 50k.
No TPMS sensors.....niceee!!!
This from a time where the error code you pulled had anything to do with the cause of the fault you were chasing...
Sarcasm intended.
I can dig it!
It's sad that today's "mechanics" are really just parts replacers. I don't know any mechanics that can machine a part on the fly.
they're still out there
Most I know can...
EETechs i know zero that machine parts
You won’t find a good machinist period that can produce most parts on modern cars
imagine the "rat's nest" of wiring their will be in cars in the future. people in future maybe looking at our cars today and saying how simpler it was.
Electrical Physics = Electrical Engineering?
That machinist is not going to last in that job without SAFEY GLASSES !!!!!
I doubt if the tubby sales guy could have squeezed himself under the dash or the car without a hoist.
I'm cringing at the machinist not wearing his safety glasses!