"It seems(and to be honest even sometimes for myself it seems) that if to put order with a strong and ironed hand-everyone will live more comfortably, healthy, and safely. But problem is, that this comfort will wither away quickly-because that strong hand, will eventually start to quickly strangle."-Vadimir Putin in conference speech of 1996.
"the imperium of man is like a man hanging from a cliff by one hand. He could pull himself up if he just used his other hand... But he's too busy flipping everyone else off to do so..."
It's like burning everything you own just to keep your fire going. If you don't, you'll die, but in the process you're destroying everything you could use to rebuild.
Very true about the imperium they have clarks in the Adeptus Administratum who are doing task that are no longer necessary and they don’t have an effective means of communication intergalactically
@@dakotaburnside994 yeah but it’s hard to do that when you’re still slowly developing tech which may or may not be stolen, corrupted or blown up by enemies.
Imperium needs only one thing - Emperor who will get up from the Golden Throne and let all know that they are wrong, and starting make everything right
That's precisely what happened when Roboute Guilliman woke up. And it makes sense since he embodied the Emperor's vision for the future and administrative genius the most.
@@gabrielalvespereira3750 the inquisition is absolutely getting destroyed first with how they've went from being an investigative body to basically soft strong arming power for themselves.
For as much the Imperium is a victim of external threats, it is always a victim of itself, showcasing what happens when you put dogma and blind tradition over practicality and nessicity.
I would argue that it's because of its dogma and blind tradition that it has lasted this long. If the imperium was a free thinking collective it would have been snuffed out long ago without big E
@@dbz9393 The Interex would probably like to have a word with you on that. Still though, the stifling nature of the Imperium means that having knowledge of anything, including things that could protect you, is heretical at best. The dogma that the Imperium follows is one that demands suffering for untold trillions for rewards and riches none of them can ever see. That is why they are promised so much in non-material things like faith and purity. I'd argue that Big E isn't quite the ultimate good that some people think he is. While worshipped like a god, he is most certainly not a god in the sense of being omnipotent and omniscent.
@@mr-mr-101 my man big can can materialise warp angels and a legion of the damned out of thin air, he created literal demi god's from his DNA and knows basically everything can see into the future and master everything with ease I'd say he's pretty damn near omnipotent. Look at the primaris marines they would be seen as heresy of the highest order yet still exist. Sure things take a while to change but will change eventually if it suits the survivability of the imperium. Not to mention life outside of hive world's is pretty chill on most planets.
@@dbz9393 On a deific power level sure he is a god, but on an ability to relate to normal humans, I doubt so. He lacks that human perspective even before he threw away his kindness to kill Horus because Hive Worlds were a thing before hand and its not like it was all a utopian ideal during the Great Crusade. Life outside hive worlds might be better but that's because hive worlds are so shit. 0 is still bigger than -100. You would still have the social pressure that the Imperial culture and religion creates, imagine 1984 where you're always on the look out for people who might be heretics, following a religion that preaches traitors are always in your midist and you must always be vilgilent. Any slip up on your end, physically or mentally, can cause you to be damned in the eyes of the Emperor. Read up on stories of cult survivors and people who left fundamentalist sects of faiths, sheds a lot of light on what that enviroment can do to someone, even if they are just living on a peaceful farm somewhere.
@@mr-mr-101 as much as we hate hive world's they are absolutely necessary to the survival of humanity with or without big E. They would still exist. He might struggle to relate to humans because he's not even human himself but a warp entity of immeasurable power. Out of all the things he could be doing with his time he spent it nurturing and uniting humanity under one single banner then expanding their reach into the stars.
The Great Crusade is a perfect example of what they’re talking about, in 200 hundred years the Imperium claimed nearly all of the territory it’s been struggling to hold onto for the last 10,000 years
I am curious. Because you guys mentioned that 90% of fictional empires are based on the Roman Empire. What empires are unique and good for world building and most important what are the pillars that makes an Empire, well, an Empire? P.S. Keep up with the awesome work :)
A lot of fictional empires are based on the LATE Roman Empire. The early Empire had more in common with the Republic. It wasn’t until later in the Empire that the decadence and corruption we think of today became truly commonplace. Not that those things didn’t exist, but they were tempered by ideals of appropriate behavior. Once certain high ranking officials did away with those ideals, and succeeded in their goals, all bets were off. As an increasing range of heinous acts became acceptable, people continued pushing the envelope and crossing the newly drawn lines. It became a race to the bottom, and Rome rotted from the inside.
Persian Empire is obscure and would be more realistic to interstellar governments due to the decentralized nature of the empire. Basically local government does whatever the fuck it wants as so long as you pay taxes, give them your armies, and honor the emperor (obey his representatives and shit).
The Holy Roman Empire would work pretty well for world-building. It was a collection of small dukedoms in central Germany. Each dukedom more or less functioned as an independent state, with the Emperor in charge getting taxes and troops based on how loyal the local duke was. It would work very well for an interstellar empire, because each planet would be able to function mostly independently but still belong to a overarching faction
@@hilkmeister1382 Well, that is more or less how the Imperium of Man works. The planetary governors are obliged to pay taxes and follow certain rules like avoiding Chaos and building thinking machines but other than that, they are free to do what ever they want.
"Why do I still live? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus' ambition than live to see this." -ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN
This guy just denied the existence of the imperial administartum in it's entirety. While it may seem inefficient it's actually very good at it's job. Well, that is until it isn't.
One of the reasons the 40K setting is so interesting is that it mirrors our own world to an extent that it's almost believable. Contemporary human beings have the capacity to solve virtually every problem on Earth, but we can't get out of our own way.
It's a good thing Guilliman was the one that returned first. Once that Bureaucracy actually gets rolling, even without tech man can steamroll most enemies. Even the tyrinids. It's called having more bodies than the enemy has bullets.
I feel like its more about the fact that if you put sufficient amounts of lazguns together it becomes a fucking laser that could potentially delete space marines We need a research & development as well as an industry primarch, fr
Problem is that the Imperium is so screwed up that even Guilliman would require centuries to begin undoing the decay. He just doesn't have the time to do so when he's always got to rush off to put out yet another one of the many fires consuming the galaxy.
When the imperium needed it most. They got the primarch they needed, not the one they deserved. They deserve nothing. But they did get the one they needed. Not a warrior But a beurocrat
Honestly, you can't trust humanity if the Imperium won and peace broke out you would just be heading toward another age of strife as someone safe and with plenty of resources went "I wonder what happens if I do this?"
A sad part of this is that it is all on purpose. The government being at odds with itself, the army broken in half with the navy and guardsmen, splintered apart, the Legions broken into Chapters, knowledge kept in a tight grip. All because they do not want another Horus to rise up. It was designed to be near impossible for another person to wield such might as the former Warmaster once had and bring the Imperium to the brink again.
Part of me is glad that the emperor hasn't come back. I'm sure if he does and points out all the mistakes humanity has done and tries to correct it; they'll think him as a doppleganger due to their arrogance and pride which will cause another civil war that it can't afford to have. The corruption has grown too much
It has been said that Romes greatest strength as well as its weakness was its sheer size. A larger beast requires more sustenance the larger it grows. This is why the Dinosaurs are gone.
The Chaos Gods could only kill the Emperor by putting to death the thing he loved the most: Humanity. The Chaos Gods should of realized that when the Emperor made the deal he made with the Chaos Gods, he did not enter that agreement as the lesser, or the equal. He held and holds the cards that are humanity; the only currency that matters in 40k.
“No effective bureaucracy.” Nope, that’s the opposite of their problem. They are insanely bureaucratic and still rely on base mercantilism, that’s their main problem.
I just come to realise that in Fantasy Men dont need Bolter, Lasguns Chainsaw Weapons and orbital strikes to beat Bloodletters. They use ol good medieval warfare and Hammers.
The Emperor did secretly trust the Dark Angels some technology that surpasses the likes of Mars or Terra. Few other worlds in the Imperium could only rival those two. Not all planets are treated equally.
I would argue vulkan is a better army tactician since he places a value on human life and wants to minimize casualties. The Lion needs to instead reform both ecclesiarchy and inquisition since he is more cunning than guilliman while also being an adept strategist. Which I would argue are as massive of problems as leading the army is. Dorn, strangely enough, solves the most issues currently as he would work on building the best bulwark against The Great Rift. Currently humanity is in a defensive war, not an offensive one.
The sad part is that humanity would be able to take the steps to thrive again if not for the forces of the Imperium constantly stamping out anyone who tries to deviate from their mandates enough to do it. Nobody can get anything of value done without a dying government sending cyborg monster-men to bring them to heel. In a very real sense, it's the biggest enemy of humanity as a whole.
Simple math, just like how you aren't fighting any war but there are people ready to fight that war for you while you call russian soldiers shit as if the ukrainians are angels.
When i read all the books, i realize every victory battle by Imperium of Man not only they keep losing too many of them but also many of their planet destroy or consume by tyranids or warp and they still keep continue losing many planet despite their victory. If this same event keep going, i afraid these sign will lead to another Endtime like from Warhammer fantasy.
This is why the return of Roboute Guilliman is amazing for the Imperium. he is the master of Bureaucracy he is the person who can put all the resources and manpower in the right places.
There's one thing that could technically help. AIs. A high enough powered AI could handle all of the Empires logistical problems. So maybe the Mechanicus got the right idea.
Considering that mankind fell due to the perceived corruption of technology and the near genocide of humanity to tech, it's not that unreasonable for them to take steps against it from happening in the future. I don't think it's ever been shown that the Imperium know that the Age of Strife was caused by the Eldar creating Slaanesh.
What I really love is all if those things that are holding it back are also in place for specific reasons The disorganisation of the military as a cohesive unit is a direct response to the heresy as a way to prevent the possibility of another militaristic civil war happening again The dogma of the ad mech and objection to innovation is due to the inherent lack of understanding of the fundamentals of alot of the tech since almost all of it is discovered and not invented and so adding or taking away from a piece of tech because you perceive it to have no purpose, could be improved, or to be detrimental to the tech you then mass produce it and only when it's in usage across the galaxy does its purpose come to light and the change in the tech you implemented causes massive back lash in the tech as it does not function as expected And you don't have the luxury of years of testing before mass production Its like being taught the details of modern chemistry but not being aware of the structure of atoms and how that impacts chemicals The religious zealots has been shown as one of the best counters to corruption is the worship and belief in the emperor as a god It has been shown to weaken and even repel the effects of corruption and demons Which I think makes it all the more dark
The imperium of man is the most powerful faction in the galaxy except for chaos but it's so fragmented. If they get their sh*t together humanity can can still claim the Imperial truth, the truth that humanity is destined to rule the galaxy
Yes it’s the perfect balance of perfection and corruption. And humanity’s enemies know and fear what will happen if Humanity tips the scales toward perfection which is why they desperately work so hard to push it toward corruption.
As a video talking to people who already know about 40k, this is nice. As an introduction video to 40k, this is terrible, because the very good reasons for the less effective military organization and the less effective civilization/culture that pushes people towards ignorance are not stated. The imperium is organized this way because it is the only way for humanity to survive.
There are other, better, ways for humanity to survive, but they all got wiped out during the great crusade. From a meta standpoint, those empires serve to show that the imperium really isn't the 'only' way to do things, frankly it's terrible at everything and had a complete disregard for human life at every level of government
If the Imperium, Tau and Aeldari would just work together for a while, they could probably muster the spare strength between them to wipe the floor with the main forces of chaos, and possibly the orcs. This would buy each species/empire time to regroup and regain lost ground, and possibly lead to a pushing back against the tyranids, a weakening of the Drukhari and enough breathing room for each nation to fully recuiperate. Not to mention, add in the Votann and you've got enough strength to possibly win out together to total victory (at least temporarily). They might find a way to close the eye of terror or even to pacify the warp entirely (possibly by killing slanesh). This would then allow for them to rebuild against the tyrannids. Thats the sad part - the imperium, to this day, has potential allies; they instead choose to squander what little goodwill they had with these.
The Imperium is starting to get back on its feet with the return of Guilliman and his eye for economics. Though he can't fix it all by himself. Need at least Rogal and The Lion to come back too so the Imperium can really be steady again.
I feel like most of the armies in 40K could absolutely smash the rest if not for them having a big glaring flaw that they arent aware of. each one has their own cruxes which allows them to have crazy potential, but without them being too powerful. like how the orks could jsut win by overpopulation of they werent too busy fighting each other jsut as much as they fight everyone else.
The simple reality is that if “The Emperor” was real he would easily have conquered the galaxy with simple logic (in that settings). If the Primarchs are even necessary is another talk, but the point of most of them is idiotic. The emperor could have pumped all the resources of the legions into just the Ultramarines and the Imperial Fists. Make 10 dorns and 10 girllymans and they would have dominated everything. Emps himself should have waited for the webway project too until the conquest was done. The imperium still lives with chaos now so it’s far to say a United galaxy would also still be alive today against chaos.
Humanity need an outside variable to get them back in gear. whether it's forming with an alliance with Yvraines Eldar, Farsight and maybe the Blood Axes if you promise them a good fight. Or Big E coming back as a Chaos God and getting things back to the way it was
HERESY!!! You lack faith brother. But all in reality it makes me sad that they suppress their knowledge with just the machanicus and allow themselves to be afraid of the golden age tech. I would like to see more knights and titans running around, especially in the chaos realm and destroying the filthy heretics as much as the next guy. I just see more potential with this whole story genre and can't wait for more.
To be fair, at certain times those seemingly dumb issues have a point. The Mechanicum, for example, doesn't let too many people innovate new technologies based off of the technology they find. Sure, you might have a sudden spark of inspiration on a new, potentially life-changing technology, only to realize that you weren't actually the thing to ignite that spark. Tzeentch is always trying to nudge people along to his big plans, and sometimes all it takes is a little whisper into somebody's mind to get the ball rolling. For as many problems the Imperium has, they're also struggling against an esoteric world that is literally actively trying to screw them over.
That last observation is the kicker. The Imperium is constantly trumpeting the value and superiority of humanity while everything about it is fundamentally *dehumanising*.
People keep saying that the T'au can't overtake the Imperium but if we're really talking realistically here. It only took them several millenniums to get where they are now. If you're gonna apply that to real world perspective, the Tau can effectively eliminate the Imperium with general ease in the next 10k years since their technology is at the point where it's rapidly increasing. Its like how we came from musket shooting, armour wearing suicidal maniacs to tacticool, long range ballistics and WMD equipped masters of destruction in just under 200 to 300 years.
The satire of GW has always been top tier, but I have long struggled to decide if making the satire less in your face obvious for the sake of a set of straight faced IP universes was a master stroke in having your cake and eating it or a cop out for the sake of easier sales.
Why can't the imperium gather its forces, absorb loses for a while from other foes as the gathered force destroy one particular foe? Eliminate the enemy one group at a time?
People simply project their in-universe selves. I do it too. In-universe you wouldn't know %90 of the things we know as fans. Even knowing everything , i'd still chug a good loud FOR THE IMPERIUM considering all the horrors that the Impeium protects you from. Civilians are mostly in discontent because they have no idea what the Imperium is protecting them from. You might hate the Kriegers forced to garrison your planet yet those Kriegers are the only thing that keeps you out of a Drukhari's sickening dreams.
@@sophieprime4669 Starship Troopers was bonkers, the book was ridiculous. You could interpret the book in multiple ways and argue endlessly about if it was pro or anti-war... Until you learn more about the author, Robert Anson Heinlein and it suddenly becomes extremely clear that what's written is meant as is and leave no real interpretation. All the possible anti war or even fascist warnings are simply Robert A. Heinlein lacking self awareness. XD
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The Imperium is a perfect embodiment of the term "too big to fail".
“The bigger they are the more food we have”
- Terry the Tyrannid
In a more logical and realistic setting it would be “too big too succeed”
Or if it falls then it takes everyone with it.
Monstrous size has no intrinsic merit unless inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue...
"It seems(and to be honest even sometimes for myself it seems) that if to put order with a strong and ironed hand-everyone will live more comfortably, healthy, and safely. But problem is, that this comfort will wither away quickly-because that strong hand, will eventually start to quickly strangle."-Vadimir Putin in conference speech of 1996.
I don’t remember where but I read a quote something along the lines of the imperium is always expanding but it’s always collapsing at the same time
Yes.
A 1000 worlds are conquered every while also, a 1000 worlds are Lost.
Ever expanding, ever declining.
The Imperium's borders waxe and wane every day
Pretty much. It's just barely growing enough to make it look sustainable to the corrupt high lords and priests.
Byzantine style, baby!
"the imperium of man is like a man hanging from a cliff by one hand.
He could pull himself up if he just used his other hand...
But he's too busy flipping everyone else off to do so..."
no, he is too busy firing a blaster at a demon climbing the same cliff.
Nahhh he's just being a dumbass, and stirring those demons around in the first place
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The absolute description
@@sosig6445 I think xenos (more specifically eldar) would be a better fit.
The demons are waiting for them at the bottom of the cliff.
still waiting for Emperor of Mankind to get out from his room.
The only way to actually revive him to actually kill him
I think he’s getting a text to speech device installed
He talked to Gulliman telepathically so there's a development.
first his sons need to return, not just guilliman
@@irishkimberly7917 little hard when 3 are died, 2 that i know of are just gone
It's like burning everything you own just to keep your fire going. If you don't, you'll die, but in the process you're destroying everything you could use to rebuild.
Very true about the imperium they have clarks in the Adeptus Administratum who are doing task that are no longer necessary and they don’t have an effective means of communication intergalactically
*interplanetary
@@psychetitan3529 that too
@@Darktrooper317 intergalactic means between galaxies. The imperium of man occupies one galaxy.
@@DestructionOfRome regardless the point stands improved communication alone could make a big difference for the imperium.
@@dakotaburnside994 yeah but it’s hard to do that when you’re still slowly developing tech which may or may not be stolen, corrupted or blown up by enemies.
Imperium needs only one thing - Emperor who will get up from the Golden Throne and let all know that they are wrong, and starting make everything right
If the emperor woke up and saw what happened, and how fucked up his imperium had become, millions of heads would roll.
That's precisely what happened when Roboute Guilliman woke up. And it makes sense since he embodied the Emperor's vision for the future and administrative genius the most.
The entire inquisition would eat the flaming sword. Then the ecclesiarchy. And THEN the administration.
@@gabrielalvespereira3750 the inquisition is absolutely getting destroyed first with how they've went from being an investigative body to basically soft strong arming power for themselves.
*billions
For as much the Imperium is a victim of external threats, it is always a victim of itself, showcasing what happens when you put dogma and blind tradition over practicality and nessicity.
I would argue that it's because of its dogma and blind tradition that it has lasted this long. If the imperium was a free thinking collective it would have been snuffed out long ago without big E
@@dbz9393 The Interex would probably like to have a word with you on that. Still though, the stifling nature of the Imperium means that having knowledge of anything, including things that could protect you, is heretical at best.
The dogma that the Imperium follows is one that demands suffering for untold trillions for rewards and riches none of them can ever see. That is why they are promised so much in non-material things like faith and purity.
I'd argue that Big E isn't quite the ultimate good that some people think he is. While worshipped like a god, he is most certainly not a god in the sense of being omnipotent and omniscent.
@@mr-mr-101 my man big can can materialise warp angels and a legion of the damned out of thin air, he created literal demi god's from his DNA and knows basically everything can see into the future and master everything with ease I'd say he's pretty damn near omnipotent. Look at the primaris marines they would be seen as heresy of the highest order yet still exist. Sure things take a while to change but will change eventually if it suits the survivability of the imperium. Not to mention life outside of hive world's is pretty chill on most planets.
@@dbz9393 On a deific power level sure he is a god, but on an ability to relate to normal humans, I doubt so. He lacks that human perspective even before he threw away his kindness to kill Horus because Hive Worlds were a thing before hand and its not like it was all a utopian ideal during the Great Crusade.
Life outside hive worlds might be better but that's because hive worlds are so shit. 0 is still bigger than -100. You would still have the social pressure that the Imperial culture and religion creates, imagine 1984 where you're always on the look out for people who might be heretics, following a religion that preaches traitors are always in your midist and you must always be vilgilent. Any slip up on your end, physically or mentally, can cause you to be damned in the eyes of the Emperor. Read up on stories of cult survivors and people who left fundamentalist sects of faiths, sheds a lot of light on what that enviroment can do to someone, even if they are just living on a peaceful farm somewhere.
@@mr-mr-101 as much as we hate hive world's they are absolutely necessary to the survival of humanity with or without big E. They would still exist. He might struggle to relate to humans because he's not even human himself but a warp entity of immeasurable power. Out of all the things he could be doing with his time he spent it nurturing and uniting humanity under one single banner then expanding their reach into the stars.
The Great Crusade is a perfect example of what they’re talking about, in 200 hundred years the Imperium claimed nearly all of the territory it’s been struggling to hold onto for the last 10,000 years
The irony is the emperor wouldn’t have wanted the imperium to end up this way
"I'm going to drag you into the light kicking and screaming old man!" -Roboute Gilliman, unedited speech proclaiming the indomitus crusade, M41
First day of the Emperor coming back
Emperor: The fuck is corpse starch?!
**THE HOLY INQUISITION WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION**
*RICK HAS ROAST YOUR EMPEROR AND IMPERIUM OF MAN AND ESCAPED UNCATCH*
F*** the Inquisition!
I recommend exterminatus
Videos with this kind of eloquence is why I subscribed to this channel.
In other words, man, despite all the aliens, monsters, demons, etc , is still its own worst enemy.
I am curious. Because you guys mentioned that 90% of fictional empires are based on the Roman Empire. What empires are unique and good for world building and most important what are the pillars that makes an Empire, well, an Empire?
P.S. Keep up with the awesome work :)
A lot of fictional empires are based on the LATE Roman Empire. The early Empire had more in common with the Republic. It wasn’t until later in the Empire that the decadence and corruption we think of today became truly commonplace. Not that those things didn’t exist, but they were tempered by ideals of appropriate behavior. Once certain high ranking officials did away with those ideals, and succeeded in their goals, all bets were off. As an increasing range of heinous acts became acceptable, people continued pushing the envelope and crossing the newly drawn lines. It became a race to the bottom, and Rome rotted from the inside.
Persian Empire is obscure and would be more realistic to interstellar governments due to the decentralized nature of the empire. Basically local government does whatever the fuck it wants as so long as you pay taxes, give them your armies, and honor the emperor (obey his representatives and shit).
The Holy Roman Empire would work pretty well for world-building. It was a collection of small dukedoms in central Germany. Each dukedom more or less functioned as an independent state, with the Emperor in charge getting taxes and troops based on how loyal the local duke was.
It would work very well for an interstellar empire, because each planet would be able to function mostly independently but still belong to a overarching faction
@@hilkmeister1382 Well, that is more or less how the Imperium of Man works. The planetary governors are obliged to pay taxes and follow certain rules like avoiding Chaos and building thinking machines but other than that, they are free to do what ever they want.
@@lorelord2418 An example of this one is Battletech's Free Worlds League. Hell all of Battletech's factions do this well.
The thing that fascinates me about The Imperium of Man is how it's somehow always growing yet also about to collapse on itself at any moment.
Blasphemy, the Imperium shall crush all foes and dominate the galaxy. The Emperor wills it.
It has often been said that the Imperium survives not _because_ of the cruelty it inflicts, but _despite_ it
"Why do I still live? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus' ambition than live to see this." -ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN
This guy just denied the existence of the imperial administartum in it's entirety. While it may seem inefficient it's actually very good at it's job. Well, that is until it isn't.
If only he would wake and be restored. Then he could take this half living corpse of an empire into glory once more
One of the reasons the 40K setting is so interesting is that it mirrors our own world to an extent that it's almost believable. Contemporary human beings have the capacity to solve virtually every problem on Earth, but we can't get out of our own way.
It's a good thing Guilliman was the one that returned first. Once that Bureaucracy actually gets rolling, even without tech man can steamroll most enemies. Even the tyrinids. It's called having more bodies than the enemy has bullets.
I feel like its more about the fact that if you put sufficient amounts of lazguns together it becomes a fucking laser that could potentially delete space marines
We need a research & development as well as an industry primarch, fr
Problem is that the Imperium is so screwed up that even Guilliman would require centuries to begin undoing the decay. He just doesn't have the time to do so when he's always got to rush off to put out yet another one of the many fires consuming the galaxy.
@@Mgauge Agreed, but he is back non the less.
When the imperium needed it most. They got the primarch they needed, not the one they deserved. They deserve nothing. But they did get the one they needed. Not a warrior
But a beurocrat
@@Mgauge Papa Smurf was brought back to life and he immediately wanted to die after seeing the state of the Imperium.
Sir we've been lost in the warp for over 900 years. And literally nothing has changed.
Imperium of Man: At least it can’t get any worse
Angron: Allow me to introduce myself
You mispelt Erebus
Robot Girlyman: Allow ME to introduce myself
@@lilporky8565Guilliman is probably the best thing to happen to the Imperium since the end of the Horus heresy.
@coltonwhite2518 Yeah u right, idk what I was on 2 yrs ago.
The only running thing is Guillimans own little empire, at least in terms of logistic, trade routes and competent bureaucracy
Honestly, you can't trust humanity if the Imperium won and peace broke out you would just be heading toward another age of strife as someone safe and with plenty of resources went "I wonder what happens if I do this?"
A sad part of this is that it is all on purpose. The government being at odds with itself, the army broken in half with the navy and guardsmen, splintered apart, the Legions broken into Chapters, knowledge kept in a tight grip. All because they do not want another Horus to rise up. It was designed to be near impossible for another person to wield such might as the former Warmaster once had and bring the Imperium to the brink again.
Part of me is glad that the emperor hasn't come back. I'm sure if he does and points out all the mistakes humanity has done and tries to correct it; they'll think him as a doppleganger due to their arrogance and pride which will cause another civil war that it can't afford to have.
The corruption has grown too much
It has been said that Romes greatest strength as well as its weakness was its sheer size. A larger beast requires more sustenance the larger it grows. This is why the Dinosaurs are gone.
The Chaos Gods could only kill the Emperor by putting to death the thing he loved the most: Humanity.
The Chaos Gods should of realized that when the Emperor made the deal he made with the Chaos Gods, he did not enter that agreement as the lesser, or the equal.
He held and holds the cards that are humanity; the only currency that matters in 40k.
The blessed imperium is perfect as the emperor himself and his most holy inquisition.
so it's a corpse ?
“No effective bureaucracy.” Nope, that’s the opposite of their problem. They are insanely bureaucratic and still rely on base mercantilism, that’s their main problem.
“Lord Inquisitor, this man right here”
Templin calling out the Grimm Derp and I’m loving it
The Grimm derp?
How does this count as grim derp? If anything the lost potential of the Imperium is way more grimdark than any number of edgy chaos shenanigans
Cadia wasn't just the planet but it's people! Cadia broke before the Guard did!
I just come to realise that in Fantasy Men dont need Bolter, Lasguns Chainsaw Weapons and orbital strikes to beat Bloodletters. They use ol good medieval warfare and Hammers.
The Emperor did secretly trust the Dark Angels some technology that surpasses the likes of Mars or Terra. Few other worlds in the Imperium could only rival those two. Not all planets are treated equally.
And that’s where Bobby G comes into the fray…
The sad reality of the Imperium: it exists.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Logistics: Gulliman
Army: Lion l Johnson
Next question
Vulkan : HR department.
Treehouse Architect: Rogal
I would argue vulkan is a better army tactician since he places a value on human life and wants to minimize casualties.
The Lion needs to instead reform both ecclesiarchy and inquisition since he is more cunning than guilliman while also being an adept strategist. Which I would argue are as massive of problems as leading the army is.
Dorn, strangely enough, solves the most issues currently as he would work on building the best bulwark against The Great Rift. Currently humanity is in a defensive war, not an offensive one.
@@airagog Lion was meant to be the war master instead of Horus
If the Primarchs were so important, why did the Emperor fail to raise them?
The sad part is that humanity would be able to take the steps to thrive again if not for the forces of the Imperium constantly stamping out anyone who tries to deviate from their mandates enough to do it. Nobody can get anything of value done without a dying government sending cyborg monster-men to bring them to heel. In a very real sense, it's the biggest enemy of humanity as a whole.
All the best features of grimdark for me. The answer to peace and prosperity is so close at hand but completely unobtainable.
I like to think the Imperium chose its path not that it was forced to be grim dark
Pretty sure the God Emperor himself would shed a tear at the complete clusterfuck that is the Imperium of Man
The Imperium is built upon a foundation of Irony.
They definitely save mankind while sacrificing billions of shock troops
Simple math, just like how you aren't fighting any war but there are people ready to fight that war for you while you call russian soldiers shit as if the ukrainians are angels.
When you have trillions of shock troops losing only billions isn't all that bad comparatively.
Counterpoint:
HERETIC!!!
(SMASHES EXTERMINATUS BUTTON)
This is why Guilliman is fully aware of and tries to get things back in motion
When i read all the books, i realize every victory battle by Imperium of Man not only they keep losing too many of them but also many of their planet destroy or consume by tyranids or warp and they still keep continue losing many planet despite their victory. If this same event keep going, i afraid these sign will lead to another Endtime like from Warhammer fantasy.
Until imperium have their smurfs wirh plot armor and abaddon is acting like a child playing war i think they are fine :D
literaly discribing our society at the same time
I think if the imperial adopted mechanical automation instead of using servtors there would be no enemy of man
The emperor will ascend to God hood as the God of order!
This is why the return of Roboute Guilliman is amazing for the Imperium. he is the master of Bureaucracy he is the person who can put all the resources and manpower in the right places.
There's one thing that could technically help.
AIs. A high enough powered AI could handle all of the Empires logistical problems.
So maybe the Mechanicus got the right idea.
Considering that mankind fell due to the perceived corruption of technology and the near genocide of humanity to tech, it's not that unreasonable for them to take steps against it from happening in the future. I don't think it's ever been shown that the Imperium know that the Age of Strife was caused by the Eldar creating Slaanesh.
What I really love is all if those things that are holding it back are also in place for specific reasons
The disorganisation of the military as a cohesive unit is a direct response to the heresy as a way to prevent the possibility of another militaristic civil war happening again
The dogma of the ad mech and objection to innovation is due to the inherent lack of understanding of the fundamentals of alot of the tech since almost all of it is discovered and not invented and so adding or taking away from a piece of tech because you perceive it to have no purpose, could be improved, or to be detrimental to the tech you then mass produce it and only when it's in usage across the galaxy does its purpose come to light and the change in the tech you implemented causes massive back lash in the tech as it does not function as expected
And you don't have the luxury of years of testing before mass production
Its like being taught the details of modern chemistry but not being aware of the structure of atoms and how that impacts chemicals
The religious zealots has been shown as one of the best counters to corruption is the worship and belief in the emperor as a god
It has been shown to weaken and even repel the effects of corruption and demons
Which I think makes it all the more dark
The imperium of man is the most powerful faction in the galaxy except for chaos but it's so fragmented. If they get their sh*t together humanity can can still claim the Imperial truth, the truth that humanity is destined to rule the galaxy
They definitely aren’t the most powerful faction lol
The Silent King is literally in motion to *cancel* the warp... Idk chief.
Yes it’s the perfect balance of perfection and corruption. And humanity’s enemies know and fear what will happen if Humanity tips the scales toward perfection which is why they desperately work so hard to push it toward corruption.
Yes, Commissar. It's this one 👆
No need brother I have informed the inquisitor to investigate this heresy
You're pissed because you know they're right.
@@carlost856 another heretic
Rats
@@carlost856 i see ... well boys i see an adept to be a good servitor
Yeah that really is sad. Is that really how a legendary serpent struggle as it's head is cut off.
As a video talking to people who already know about 40k, this is nice. As an introduction video to 40k, this is terrible, because the very good reasons for the less effective military organization and the less effective civilization/culture that pushes people towards ignorance are not stated.
The imperium is organized this way because it is the only way for humanity to survive.
There are other, better, ways for humanity to survive, but they all got wiped out during the great crusade. From a meta standpoint, those empires serve to show that the imperium really isn't the 'only' way to do things, frankly it's terrible at everything and had a complete disregard for human life at every level of government
If the Imperium, Tau and Aeldari would just work together for a while, they could probably muster the spare strength between them to wipe the floor with the main forces of chaos, and possibly the orcs. This would buy each species/empire time to regroup and regain lost ground, and possibly lead to a pushing back against the tyranids, a weakening of the Drukhari and enough breathing room for each nation to fully recuiperate. Not to mention, add in the Votann and you've got enough strength to possibly win out together to total victory (at least temporarily). They might find a way to close the eye of terror or even to pacify the warp entirely (possibly by killing slanesh). This would then allow for them to rebuild against the tyrannids. Thats the sad part - the imperium, to this day, has potential allies; they instead choose to squander what little goodwill they had with these.
It has the resources to provide an abundance for every citizen but refuses to do so? That sounds awful I'd hate to live in a society like that
If anything the imperium is a close reflection of humanity in its current state
The Imperium is starting to get back on its feet with the return of Guilliman and his eye for economics. Though he can't fix it all by himself. Need at least Rogal and The Lion to come back too so the Imperium can really be steady again.
I dunno how ignorant their faith is.
last time humanity got tech-savvy, they created an AI that almost wiped everyone out
I feel like most of the armies in 40K could absolutely smash the rest if not for them having a big glaring flaw that they arent aware of. each one has their own cruxes which allows them to have crazy potential, but without them being too powerful. like how the orks could jsut win by overpopulation of they werent too busy fighting each other jsut as much as they fight everyone else.
Basically, it can become prosperous but pride and corruption hinder this golden era.
And the emperor is stuck watching it all in the worst form of sleep paralysis, forced to do so through even more sacrifices.
This sounds like some heresy Ngl
The imperium: we don’t win we just do a little better each time
Man is spouting some spicy heresy right now
"Mankind must suffer so mankind can survive." - Eisenhorn
The simple reality is that if “The Emperor” was real he would easily have conquered the galaxy with simple logic (in that settings). If the Primarchs are even necessary is another talk, but the point of most of them is idiotic. The emperor could have pumped all the resources of the legions into just the Ultramarines and the Imperial Fists. Make 10 dorns and 10 girllymans and they would have dominated everything. Emps himself should have waited for the webway project too until the conquest was done. The imperium still lives with chaos now so it’s far to say a United galaxy would also still be alive today against chaos.
Not new, that is the reality of the actual world
Oceania (1984) Hey I ve seen that one before it's classic
This feels like a mirror to mankind in our own real lives...
Humanity need an outside variable to get them back in gear. whether it's forming with an alliance with Yvraines Eldar, Farsight and maybe the Blood Axes if you promise them a good fight. Or Big E coming back as a Chaos God and getting things back to the way it was
The chaos god of order
That would either be fucking terrifying or a shotgun to the entire galaxy aimed at anything that moves
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Ngl a simple alliance with the T'au would do wonders
Until now, now that Roboute and Lion are back and others probably on the way and possibility of a rebirth of the emperor things are going to change.
HERESY!!! You lack faith brother. But all in reality it makes me sad that they suppress their knowledge with just the machanicus and allow themselves to be afraid of the golden age tech. I would like to see more knights and titans running around, especially in the chaos realm and destroying the filthy heretics as much as the next guy. I just see more potential with this whole story genre and can't wait for more.
It doesn’t have the ability to move resources anymore. Kind of a giant tear in space-time splitting the Milky Way in 2
To be fair, at certain times those seemingly dumb issues have a point. The Mechanicum, for example, doesn't let too many people innovate new technologies based off of the technology they find. Sure, you might have a sudden spark of inspiration on a new, potentially life-changing technology, only to realize that you weren't actually the thing to ignite that spark. Tzeentch is always trying to nudge people along to his big plans, and sometimes all it takes is a little whisper into somebody's mind to get the ball rolling.
For as many problems the Imperium has, they're also struggling against an esoteric world that is literally actively trying to screw them over.
I know nothing about Warhammer, but this video is fucking beautiful. Subbed! hopefully I learn smth interesting
That last phrase, usually we call it "workdays".
No effective bureaucracy.
Guilliman: Have you met me?!
Feels like he’s tripping from the humidity.
That last observation is the kicker. The Imperium is constantly trumpeting the value and superiority of humanity while everything about it is fundamentally *dehumanising*.
People keep saying that the T'au can't overtake the Imperium but if we're really talking realistically here. It only took them several millenniums to get where they are now. If you're gonna apply that to real world perspective, the Tau can effectively eliminate the Imperium with general ease in the next 10k years since their technology is at the point where it's rapidly increasing. Its like how we came from musket shooting, armour wearing suicidal maniacs to tacticool, long range ballistics and WMD equipped masters of destruction in just under 200 to 300 years.
“Dogmatic and arrogant”
Uhhh the AI that slaughtered countless trillions of humans would like a word.
Star Wars fans: omg Star Wars is so cool!!! I want to be a Jedi
Warhammer 40k fans: I’m good where I am thanks.
Literally actual mankind
The satire of GW has always been top tier, but I have long struggled to decide if making the satire less in your face obvious for the sake of a set of straight faced IP universes was a master stroke in having your cake and eating it or a cop out for the sake of easier sales.
rowboat: let me introduce myself.
Why can't the imperium gather its forces, absorb loses for a while from other foes as the gathered force destroy one particular foe? Eliminate the enemy one group at a time?
God damn bureaucrats
Writers: "See how the stubborn small-minded arrogance of the Imperium makes their facade of-"
Fans: "FOR DE EMPEROR!!!! GLORIOUS ROMAN WARRIORS!!!"
People simply project their in-universe selves. I do it too. In-universe you wouldn't know %90 of the things we know as fans.
Even knowing everything , i'd still chug a good loud FOR THE IMPERIUM considering all the horrors that the Impeium protects you from. Civilians are mostly in discontent because they have no idea what the Imperium is protecting them from.
You might hate the Kriegers forced to garrison your planet yet those Kriegers are the only thing that keeps you out of a Drukhari's sickening dreams.
On god its just like Starship Troopers
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*Laughs in ICOG from Xeelee Sequence*
@@sophieprime4669 Starship Troopers was bonkers, the book was ridiculous. You could interpret the book in multiple ways and argue endlessly about if it was pro or anti-war... Until you learn more about the author, Robert Anson Heinlein and it suddenly becomes extremely clear that what's written is meant as is and leave no real interpretation. All the possible anti war or even fascist warnings are simply Robert A. Heinlein lacking self awareness. XD
@@CataStudies its so bonkers its a warning, at least the movie fixed the cringe.
The emporer of mankind will return and bring humanity back to greatness.