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Loved the series, as I was retelling the story to a friend I noticed a detail that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere else. After Jeevans near death experience with the wolf he absorbs traits of both of his dead siblings. He becomes a doctor like his sister was and because of his foot amputation he walks with a limp and a cane just like his brother. Just thought that was some beautiful symbolism and wanted to share.
This was my thought on the ending: "I have found you 9 times before maybe ten." Meaning to me that when we lose our loved ones we eventually find people in our lives that resemble the relationships we've lost. 🤷
The Jeevan-Kirsten reunion did not need any dialogue, it was that satisfying and they are the heart and soul of the story. I know they will see each other again, she did invite him and his family to attend their performances when they come around the area.
Not only the scene, but the series-long set up. I wasn’t sure their reunion was even a possibility until the final episode, where Jeevan’s revealed to still be alive. Great show.
I didn’t agree at first. But that was my inner child wanting to yell at Jeevan for abandoning me. But rewatching it, I’m glad it was silent. Nothing needed to be said, they both know what the other sacrifices to get to that moment. And yes, I know they will see each other again.
I've never heard of the source material and I didn't see the marketing for this(if there was anyway) so I went in totally blind. And this show BLEW ME AWAY. I hope they don't try for a season two. Too many shows ruin a perfect story trying for more commercial success.
What I loved about Station Eleven is that although it's a post apocalypse story, the climax is a family playing Hamlet, a reunion at a party and two people connecting on the phone. It was never really about the apocalypse, it's about overcoming trauma and rebuilding. We don't need to know what happens after, because what happens is that Kirsten, Tyler, Clark and Jeevan go on living. Except now, they've overcome their trauma
Enjoyed the video. 😊 I love the theme of being found, and finding. I mentioned on another video how I think it was a nice full-circle moment when Kirsten ‘found’ Jeevan after losing Sarah (in death), and how she found Sarah after she ‘lost’ Jeevan prior. I believe the thing being found is a place of rest and peace- home. So, over the course of these years people may find what they consider ‘home’ many times over.
I like that a lot too! I like that they meet and he guided her through death. It's not explicitly said but I hope Jeevan was able to tell Kristen that he was with Sarah when she died.
i binged this in 2 days. creepy considering we live in a pandemic. i love how everything is intertwined. "to the monsters, we're the monsters" how true does that ring? i loved Kirsten and Geevan. the caring for people in need, even strangers, is something that the world needs to grasp.
Great review as always.. but I don't see what unanswered questions you have. The shows wraps everything up pretty neatly by the end. And some might say too neatly.
Sometimes the world needs something to wrap up too neatly. There are plenty of other movies and shows that don't. It does not always have to be a bad/sad ending. Not everything has to be The Walking Dead.
This show changed my idea on shows forever, and I cannot watch anything else the same anymore. This show changed me, and I can not stop obsessing over it. I love this show and can not say enough to thank the people who made the show.
I saw someone else write this as it fits this tale so well " Symmetrical story told in an asymmetrical universe". Poetic and just, leaving art to its interpretation of the unjustified. Tears sullen and remorseful of a past debt fulfilled...
Just finished this show, enjoyed it a lot. I was very conflicted about Tyler having a happy ending and walking away as a good guy. He still kidnapped tons of kids and strapped bombs to them, he’s definitely a horrible person
He did not strap bombs to them. There is a line that Hailee (one of the children) told the other kids that the bombs were beacons. She told them this when he was sick from his stab wound and he didn’t know
Tyler is definitely a conflicting character, but not for the reasons you state. He tells the story of how he’s lost control of the story before, and that’s when Haily (the girl at the end) came up with the bomb idea and spread it to the other kids. He also mentions that there are a lot of kids out there that have left so he doesn’t know which version of the story the believe. The worst part is how does he end up gaining control of all the kids, and his list of revenge to hurt those in the airport. His revenge was blowing up the museum. If he actually wanted to physically hurt or kill anyone in the airport he had plenty of chances. He had no interest in killing anyone, only hurting them and trying to destroy the remembrance of the past.
I’m so glad i found this series. It’s very touching, thrilling, and good at mixed feelings. It also opens my mind how to dealt with the past and grief. Very good series!
Yeah, I cried as well. Kirsten’s and Jeeven’s reunion was touching. There is a lot to like about this series, I just can’t reconcile Tyler’s getting away with his Manson-like murders. I guess all the kids dropped their bomb packs off. Would any of you be so cruel to recruit children in a delusional plan?
I might be wrong here, but didn't Tyler essentially tell Kirsten he didn't organise the mine murder as he was passed out at the time, so someone else was in charge. "When I was hurt, Hayley told the kids a different story. Let the mines erase the past.". I can't remember other deaths Tyler was involved in.
My husband was like this show did what Game of Thrones wanted to do, and I agree, if this show got the GOT treatment we would have followed these characters for years having them just miss each other, until we have all our favorite characters in one place together. It was very satisfying to achieve that ending in just 10 episodes
The hardest part of being a doctor is right. I went to med school.. 1st year, 1 month in & got really really sick. As the docs were working to get my fever down, a man came in carrying his son who just got into a car wreck with his friends. The sons insides came out and while I could only see a smidge of what was happening-I heard the screaming & the hopelessness of the dad. The ambulances were pulling up with the other kids. And I laid there while they are trying to save me, hysterically crying bc I could feel the pain from the parents. And then to hear a doc tell another parent that their kid didn’t make it while the doctor himself was trying to stay composed was horrific. I dropped out of school the next week. I was so gifted and I would think if I stayed in - could I have gotten over it. But when I went to the vet & heard a lady crying the same way I knew I didn’t have that courage.
Tyler did not tell the kids to suicide bomb. He even makes this clear saying that he “lost control of the story” and that another kid came up with the land mine stuff.
I am so excited to experience a story about humanity. Great stories are few and far between in today's world and even more rare is shared humanity...something that reminds us of how similiar we are.
I loved your use of the Andrew Scott Hamlet! I didn’t even know that had been made. Could you share where to watch it? Some of the confusing parts of this show were interesting and mysterious, and some were just confusing. Thank you for adding some clarity!
I thought in the end Kirsten would let go of her obsession with the book and the symphony and follow jeevan home. Just like she did in the beginning. She left the theater and followed where he led. Im not sure why they separated.
I think this was the best thing that I saw during the pandemic and it bums me out that this got no play. This show goes, "What if you tell a post-apoc story, but you can't do any of the easy stuff? No big, bad, psycho governor, no zombie rehashery, no gun battles when you can't think of a better way to raise the stakes. Also, you have to make Shakespeare in the Dark an ass-clenching story beat, and no tits allowed." Then Station 11 does it HANDILY.
I really liked this show overall, but one part I found unrealistic was everyone just seemingly forgiving Tyler for abducting all those children (and using some as suicide bombers). I would have expected his mother to have insisted he return all of the kidnapped children as a condition of her joining him on his travels, especially as she had gone through all of the pain and anguish of losing her child twenty years earlier. And don't get me wrong, I'm not some naïve optimist, I do realise that bad things happen and people get away with them without consequence. But that blanket acceptance from his mother just didn't seem consistent with the character.
tyler said in the show that while he was passed out from the stabbing, haley organized the bombings. I presume most/all of the children who follow them are kids he found which means they are likely orphans or something similar. I dont think he abducted them
Maybe he only abducted children from places that keep a lot of pre-pan items. He thinks he's saving the children from the inevitable conflict/turmoil/trauma associated with pre-pan adults.
I was thinking samething but he said if u kill me every one u love their lives will end so kids ready been brainwashed if she killed him or any of them killed him the kids will destroy the airport
I tried watching this show but I just can't connect with it, people are saying it's a life altering masterpiece and I just don't see how it is. It's weird and confusing and triee too hard to be artistic and philosophical instead of just telling a consistent story with the characters. I got very attached to Jeevan and Kirsten in the first episode, their relatable dynamic as the world feel apart, it's actually one of the most realistic and human depictions of an apocalypse, and I loved the glimpses into the world years later when everything is overgrown and dilapidated. I've never been one for art or books or theatre, so this whole aspect of the show is lost on me, and I found myself skimming through episodes 2-6 to just get to what happened next with Jeevan and Kirsten, because this show jumps around in time and doesn't fill in the blanks in-between until much later, and I just can't watch and enjoy a show that is structured like that, like a jigsaw puzzle without a picture on the box that only makes sense when you finish it. The story with J&K is amazing and their acting is stellar, especially Kirsten, amazing young actress, but the rest of the show is just weird and whacky and eccentric, and after talking to fans, I realise this show just isn't for me, and even after watching this summary it just doesn't sound appealing, which is a shame because episode 1 really hooked me in, but the tonal shift into episode 2 makes it feel like a completely different show
i got hooked on this show cause the first episode was really intriguing but after that it got super wacky and eccentric like you were saying. felt kinda ripped off but i guess its just not for me. 🤷🏻♀️
So no-one brought up how he killed two little kids by strapping them with mines??? Or how he literally abandoned a whole group of little kids in the woods.....
I think he told her that while he was recovering from his stab wound, one of the other kids convinced the younger kids to strap on the mines. The girl who brought mines to the airport
He didn't abandon the kids, he had already planned with them where to meet up later etc., including coming to the airport once he 'lit the torch' (AKA set fire to the control tower). Don't get me wrong, he was still an evil person for abducting them and using them as suicide bombers!
I have this feeling that whoever made this film, did not like the novel. They loved the story but did not like the fate the original author grabyed to each of her characters. So the maker of this series decided to alter a lot of things, big things even. They made Jeevan and Kristen have this bond and stuff while in the book Kristen looks for Jeevan, the man who was kind to her when Arthur Leander died on stage but she never finds that man. Jeevan finds his meaning in service but just like everyone involved in service, he stays anonymous, just the man who performed cpr on arthur, known for his deed not his name.
I just could not like the adult Kirsten, I don't know if it was the actor or the writing or maybe it's on purpose. The kid version of Kirsten was great! I did like the reunion with Jeevan.
Agreed. She was too cross-eyed-on-purpose-not-by-nature and constantly emoting yet showing no authenticity, insight or connectivity. Young Kirsten was brilliant. I could watch her for days. Maybe that’s the problem, she was too wonderful to let go of. And yeah - maybe that was on purpose? It’s heartbreaking to think the story makes you have to stop loving young Kirsten tho.
if only there were 2 more episodes! I felt there was more to flesh out with many characters. TBH I didn't get the whole Station eleven thing, with the story in the graphic novel and how it corresponded with what was happening. I didn't get the visions of the blue spaceman, or what the graphic novel actually was about. It was only in the last episode when one of the kids says that they landmines were beacons for the ship. so did they think that the ship called station 11 was going to come down and save them? that would mean that tyler was planning to kill all the kids with the mines, heavens gate style.
I gotta say I thought this show was a little corny with the whole traveling symphony thing in a post apocalyptic world. But as the story develops and you start seeing the connections between the characters, it becomes much more. The back and forth in the storylines was done well and the writing was really good. In my opinion there is no need for a second season.
Decent roundup of the show. Great show - very well thought out. I have my peeves and problems with it - but I stuck to the creator's vision and version of the story and ultimately enjoyed the intelligent ride. Many liberties and convenient plot situations and story-telling license are exploited vs what would really happen in post-apocalyptic scenarios - but that just kept me on my toes to try to see if what happened could possibly really happen (especially all these talented people winding up alive - and together). I went with it and didn't let it bother me and trusted the story. Like many question: could these people really really survive - with almost NO FOOD or resources or running water, etc. once the main resources were gone - after some time. And wouldn't there be more danger from the outside - other survivors - regardless of how many people died. Besides those HUGE aspects that weren't addressed that well - I enjoyed 1 of the better series I've seen in years. I like story telling - I just don't like when way too many liberties and plot points are way way too convenient. But I can also still enjoy something for the way it was written - knowing it was a book - then a series - and it's not exactly REALITY. It's based in reality - but is a sensational, interesting, interwoven story - that - is - a - story. So I get that - and many critics do not get that a story is just that - and can still be based in reality and you don't have to always poke holes in things. I can poke holes in other fantastic films - say - Batman lol - but I only do so in the reality that is created within the movie(s). Thanks for the recap - carry on.
Great review of the roundup! I too had some issues with the liberties they took at first, but the story was so eloquently told, that I was able to look past them and see the show for what the writers wanted us to see. I loved it, it was a fresh take on a genre that's done many times.
I don't think this was really meant to be taken as an accurate depiction of an apocalypse...more of like a story within a story...I went thinking this would be another apocalypse type show/movie and yeah I don't think I've seen anything like this...it was like classic literature but on tv...pretty cool take on the genre
I haven't watched this yet because I was worried it wouldn't be faithful to the source. No adaption is perfect but this one seems to be close to it. Thanks for covering it. This convinced me to give it a chance after all 😄
I was expecting this shit to be like The Postman where Kevin Costner was a travelling actor who puts on Shakespeare shows from town to town and The Prophet was like the leader of The Eight.
I forget exactly what he said. But, when he was asked about it in the episode, why he was the only one that noticed. He replied he might not have been. He was just the first one that stood up.
The book did a better job of explaining why Jeevan is the one who knew what was happening. In the book Jeevan catches that Arthur repeats a line from earlier in the play.
I thought it was something to do with his family members being doctors so he knew the signs. That comes back later when he gets mistaken as a doctor and helps deliver the babies. And then eventually, he does become one!
"The Bystander Effect, or bystander apathy, is a social psychological theory that states that individuals are less likely to offer help to a victim when there are other people present." People feel less compelled to act when they expect that someone else will do it instead. He wasn't the only one who noticed.
I actually read Jeevan as a shaman--someone who was very perceptive and sensitive--in the beginning it gets masked sometimes with his anxiety, but in the end, he is steady and sure
Maybe someone can explain this to me... Kirsten calls the wolf Jeevan is slaughtering Big Daddy, and his family, but isn't the wolf who attacked him big daddy, and they were separated? That and the stolen scene from The Stand were my inly two real gripes.
It's not a bad show but some moments are extremely frustrating. Like if you kidnap children, brainwash them and turn them into suicide bombers, YOU ARE A MONSTER! There can't be any redemption for that character on the stage that justify his previous actions. You can't have him and his mommy walking away with an army of kids in the finale and expect me (the viewer) to be satisfied.
But again to the monster we are the monsters. So Clark and the whole community that basically exiled him are the monsters that turned him into a monster
This show was beautiful! I absolutely loved it. And it was not at all what I expected! (This show left you with unanswered questions? We must have watched different shows!)
The Prophet/David/Tyler didn't know anything about the child soldiers. When he was wounded one of the kids developed her own interpretation of his retelling of Station Eleven and acted on it.
Can someone hash out for me exactly why Tyler felt so strongly about having no reminders of before the apocalypse? How is living in a post pandemic world with his mother and a bunch of strangers less traumatic to him than living in a functioning society with two parents, albeit both very distance and now divorced parents, but still, I don't see how the "trauma" we see Tyler experience, coupled with the influence of "station eleven" is enough to lead to a life altering "cleanse the world" complex and his eventual self exile. Also where did this sheltered son of Hollywood types gain not only the skills but the courage to venture out into the wilderness with basically nothing. This part of the show doesn't seem to be developed properly and for me it takes alot away from the big picture. Maybe I missed something, hopefully I did and someone can explain.
Tyler associates everyone who knew what life was like before the Pandemic as people who will kill to cling to the way it was before. They used the "before" to justify destruction. His traumatic moment of helping the one sick man who survived quarantine in the plane only to have someone shoot him in the head quickly rewires him. Pre-pandemic people are monsters. And he associates post-pandemic people as innocent and open to create a future together.
@tspring12 I agree, and that was just one of the many things I found hard to suspend disbelief for in this show. The very fact that he was shot basically without warning and remorse I don't buy at all. I have to say that for the most part, I found this show to be exactly what Jeevan called the book - "so pretentious!". Practically none of the characters felt real. Kirsten didn't kill Alex although she had plenty of opportunities. Alex was actually supposed to be a sympathetic character, despite the fact that he murdered children (via suicide-mines) for his own purposes.
In my view he is gifted. There's no way he's neurotypical. That's why he's been so smart and has such strong opinions since he was a kid. Before venturing out he had already researched everything. It's still a bit unrealistic, but it's the only explanation I've found.
You might want to watch the show again, my dude. Three minutes in and you’ve already gotten SO MANY details wrong. I think someone may need to explain it to you first
maybe they were still with miranda? she seemed to be called to malaysia rather suddenly and was perhaps going to head to whatever cities the people who she wanted to give the other copies to lived in.
Thank you sooo much for this review. You have spared me the disgust of watching a series that is too boring for my taste and that HBO misleadingly described as a scifi adventure
Something I would add that never seems to get talked about would be the different ways these people approach a new society. Severn DOES want to preserve the past, even if a more communal version of it. Traveling symphony chooses to opt out of society. There are small communal villages. And Tyler abducts all the kids to let their imaginations create an entirely new society. The way the final shot was filmed shows that Tyler has the population that will probably win out. Whatever they create, by sheer numbers, is probably going to be the dominant socioeconomic model. AND the fact that they were allowed to be creative in bring the graphic novel (prophecy) to life in their costume means they're going to get real creative with society. Maybe.
I could never get the point. It all seemed like a waste of my time but I held on hoping it might get better. I never did and I found myself wanting them to all just die lol .
I think this show was unnecessarily monotonous, also I felt it was a really slow show. I’m not saying it’s bad, I just think that it could be told in less chapters with the same impact and message
This show seemed like it had elements to be good but never got around to it. Miranda was by far the most interesting character and had the best episodes.
I agree! Kirsten was boring to me except for her knife skills. I like Miranda and Javeen (sp?) the most. The other characters were very unlikeable. The first episode was the best and then episode 3 and5.
Well, I don’t know. Critics loved it , audiences, not so much. I just have a few comments. What happened to the cat in Frank’s apartment? Just left to die? Also, tie it up in a hopeful bow. Tyler murdered the conductor and his grand children. The grief caused the composer to have a heart attack and eventually die. That’s 4 killings Tyler! And he just goes on his merry way, no accountability. Personally, I think he was a psychopath and needed killing. So , no , thumb’s down.
The cat didn't belong to Frank (as far as I could tell), I think it was just a cat left behind after another resident died, and it roamed the building or at least the level their apartments were on. I think that's why Kirsten was calling it through the vents, because it roamed around now to fend for itself. So they likely would have just let it leave through the door after Frank's death.
How is it this Drama club is so successful in the apocalypse? I'd figure they'd be the first to be taken out by some Mad Max style biker gang or a gang of ex military militia
You never know who will survive. Plus society has always used media to make them feel better. And most of the earth's population is gone I can't remember how much exactly but something like 90 or 99% died within a few weeks
I read the book, and loved it. It's a permanent feature on my re-read schedule. (Do I need to state my disappointment and dislike at the story here? The casting, the script, the filming, the pacing, the conclusion?) This is like watching the first Dune movie, and the recent one. This is like watching BBC Survivors 2008. This is trash. As a stand alone thing it may have been fun for people, really good fun even. But it wasn't. It was based on somebody elses idea. Either come up with your own idea or drop that greatness like a hot coal and walk away. This is like watching World War Z, after reading World War Z (and any good screenwriter will tell you just how painful that felt).
Thanks for this summary. I just watched the first 3 episodes and I am sure it's deep and fantastic but I am not really into it. So I started to search some video to understand what is going on and where this show will go. Well I think I stop watching now. I don't think it's bad but it's not for me tbh. Thanks again, You saved hours of my time :)
I love the concept, but as a whole…it had a lot of flaws. Some things that took too much time added nothing to the plot. That’s my biggest complaint personally.
@@Plsbringtea Well I have so many good ( I mean what i think I like) series to watch, so I do not have 24 hrs in a day to watch tv shows, so I need to watch only what I really like. This is why I said this show is just not for me, but it still fantastic for some other ppl.
If the apocalypse occurred and the only survivors were uninteresting drama school people. Also, Not once in the entire shows run, do they show the "traveling symphony's" ability to gather resources to survive
Yeah, this “apocalypse” really sucks, it reminds me of the happy-go-lucky silly side of the apocalypse that is always portrayed in media. I assume 20 years on, the most successful people in the post-apocalypse would how the Amish look today. Though I suppose that wouldn’t be a particularly exciting TV show. But, really? Shakespeare? It’s just so… dross.
I was also wondering how do they stay clean/have new cloths each time, stay hydrated, have enough food to survive, I think they could at least show a glimpse of that.
they never show them poop either! Like, do they just go in the woods? What about when they're in towns? Are there latrines or does everyone just walk out of town to find a place to go? The show really dropped the ball and could have been so much better.
@@blanktom6049 When they new guy who auditions with the Independence Day speech joins, there's a scene where he's given a shovel and gets told to go dig the latrines after they make a stop.
I don't think so. He was just a character in the comic, and then a product of people who had read the comic's imaginations when they saw him in real-life.
I should love the series but I have a big issue with Tyler. What's he? how come he can brainwash the children to do suicide bombing? how come Kristen started wanted to murder him to take revenge for her friends but end up becoming ... friends? With nothing in hand, how can he bomb the museum of civilization? how can he reprogram a 20-yrs-old Nitendo Switch to a remote control?
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Loved the series, as I was retelling the story to a friend I noticed a detail that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere else. After Jeevans near death experience with the wolf he absorbs traits of both of his dead siblings. He becomes a doctor like his sister was and because of his foot amputation he walks with a limp and a cane just like his brother. Just thought that was some beautiful symbolism and wanted to share.
yeah I noticed that too. its almost like they never left him
oh god i just finished reading the book and tv show is so different noooo
Brain and heart exploded
Yep, this is also mirrored in Kirsten/Frank in the final episode as she talks down the suicide bomber kid.
@@monharris28 Exactly. They never did, remember how he used to talk to "himself" hearing their voices in his head
This was my thought on the ending: "I have found you 9 times before maybe ten." Meaning to me that when we lose our loved ones we eventually find people in our lives that resemble the relationships we've lost. 🤷
Wow. I like this interpretation.
Me too
Spot on. Love it. And I’m crying at 8am
The Jeevan-Kirsten reunion did not need any dialogue, it was that satisfying and they are the heart and soul of the story. I know they will see each other again, she did invite him and his family to attend their performances when they come around the area.
So agree! I could watch that scene over and over
Not only the scene, but the series-long set up. I wasn’t sure their reunion was even a possibility until the final episode, where Jeevan’s revealed to still be alive. Great show.
I didn’t agree at first. But that was my inner child wanting to yell at Jeevan for abandoning me. But rewatching it, I’m glad it was silent. Nothing needed to be said, they both know what the other sacrifices to get to that moment. And yes, I know they will see each other again.
I sobbed when Jeevan-Kirsten reunited, sobbed like a baby, the music, the story, their expressions--so incredibly beautiful and poignant
I've never heard of the source material and I didn't see the marketing for this(if there was anyway) so I went in totally blind. And this show BLEW ME AWAY. I hope they don't try for a season two. Too many shows ruin a perfect story trying for more commercial success.
same
Fleabag was perfect. Then they did a second/final season, and that was arguably perfect too.
totally with you on this one
Pretty sure there will be a season 2. They left it way to open and no major characters were killed off except for Sara
@@mikerzisu9508 I dunno this seem pretty tied up to me...no need for a 2nd and it seems there probably won't be one
What I loved about Station Eleven is that although it's a post apocalypse story, the climax is a family playing Hamlet, a reunion at a party and two people connecting on the phone. It was never really about the apocalypse, it's about overcoming trauma and rebuilding. We don't need to know what happens after, because what happens is that Kirsten, Tyler, Clark and Jeevan go on living. Except now, they've overcome their trauma
I loved this show so damn much. I really hope they release the music score!
It’s out on Apple Music! Dan Romer
its on amazon
Enjoyed the video. 😊 I love the theme of being found, and finding. I mentioned on another video how I think it was a nice full-circle moment when Kirsten ‘found’ Jeevan after losing Sarah (in death), and how she found Sarah after she ‘lost’ Jeevan prior. I believe the thing being found is a place of rest and peace- home. So, over the course of these years people may find what they consider ‘home’ many times over.
I really love this interpretation!
@@stephanie_smith, thank-you. 💙
I like that a lot too! I like that they meet and he guided her through death. It's not explicitly said but I hope Jeevan was able to tell Kristen that he was with Sarah when she died.
@@Singalong519, I hope so, too! I know it would be a real comfort to Kirsten to know. 💙
i binged this in 2 days. creepy considering we live in a pandemic. i love how everything is intertwined. "to the monsters, we're the monsters" how true does that ring? i loved Kirsten and Geevan. the caring for people in need, even strangers, is something that the world needs to grasp.
Great review as always.. but I don't see what unanswered questions you have. The shows wraps everything up pretty neatly by the end. And some might say too neatly.
It wrapped it up in my heart just fine.
Sometimes the world needs something to wrap up too neatly. There are plenty of other movies and shows that don't. It does not always have to be a bad/sad ending. Not everything has to be The Walking Dead.
I would pay money to watch that play live. I love this show so much.
Idk why but I cried like a baby when Jeevan and Kristen reunited lol
thought i was the only one lol
I want to punch you for bringing that up again. I’m not crying.
@@Jackie.Daytona i want to punch myself for reading my comment and thinking about it again 😢😭😂
@@taylorsimone3671 nope!!! Lol i was a wreck especially because I thought Jeevan had already left the airport. 😂😂
Me too!
This show changed my idea on shows forever, and I cannot watch anything else the same anymore. This show changed me, and I can not stop obsessing over it. I love this show and can not say enough to thank the people who made the show.
I saw someone else write this as it fits this tale so well " Symmetrical story told in an asymmetrical universe". Poetic and just, leaving art to its interpretation of the unjustified. Tears sullen and remorseful of a past debt fulfilled...
A small correction; Jeevan did not go to the airport for Sarah's heart attack, it was for Clark's burn injury.
I thought Elizabeth tells Kirsten that they had summoned the doctor for Sarah before the fire.
@@colleenkidwell5820 either she was lied to, or covering for Sarah wanting to die.
Just finished this show, enjoyed it a lot. I was very conflicted about Tyler having a happy ending and walking away as a good guy. He still kidnapped tons of kids and strapped bombs to them, he’s definitely a horrible person
Yeah, I too would have liked his mother to have insisted he return all the kidnapped children as a condition of her joining him.
He did not strap bombs to them. There is a line that Hailee (one of the children) told the other kids that the bombs were beacons. She told them this when he was sick from his stab wound and he didn’t know
She is the little girl who brings the mines in the last episode.
Tyler is definitely a conflicting character, but not for the reasons you state. He tells the story of how he’s lost control of the story before, and that’s when Haily (the girl at the end) came up with the bomb idea and spread it to the other kids. He also mentions that there are a lot of kids out there that have left so he doesn’t know which version of the story the believe. The worst part is how does he end up gaining control of all the kids, and his list of revenge to hurt those in the airport. His revenge was blowing up the museum. If he actually wanted to physically hurt or kill anyone in the airport he had plenty of chances. He had no interest in killing anyone, only hurting them and trying to destroy the remembrance of the past.
I’m so glad i found this series. It’s very touching, thrilling, and good at mixed feelings. It also opens my mind how to dealt with the past and grief. Very good series!
Yeah, I cried as well. Kirsten’s and Jeeven’s reunion was touching. There is a lot to like about this series, I just can’t reconcile Tyler’s getting away with his Manson-like murders. I guess all the kids dropped their bomb packs off. Would any of you be so cruel to recruit children in a delusional plan?
I might be wrong here, but didn't Tyler essentially tell Kirsten he didn't organise the mine murder as he was passed out at the time, so someone else was in charge. "When I was hurt, Hayley told the kids a different story. Let the mines erase the past.". I can't remember other deaths Tyler was involved in.
My husband was like this show did what Game of Thrones wanted to do, and I agree, if this show got the GOT treatment we would have followed these characters for years having them just miss each other, until we have all our favorite characters in one place together. It was very satisfying to achieve that ending in just 10 episodes
The hardest part of being a doctor is right. I went to med school.. 1st year, 1 month in & got really really sick. As the docs were working to get my fever down, a man came in carrying his son who just got into a car wreck with his friends. The sons insides came out and while I could only see a smidge of what was happening-I heard the screaming & the hopelessness of the dad. The ambulances were pulling up with the other kids. And I laid there while they are trying to save me, hysterically crying bc I could feel the pain from the parents. And then to hear a doc tell another parent that their kid didn’t make it while the doctor himself was trying to stay composed was horrific. I dropped out of school the next week. I was so gifted and I would think if I stayed in - could I have gotten over it. But when I went to the vet & heard a lady crying the same way I knew I didn’t have that courage.
i stopped being a doctor during the pandemic. i was an intern. i just couldn't take it mentally. i know exactly what you mean.
It’s literature. It has depth that produce a variety of interpretations. Beautiful work.
I was waiting for a video like this! This was great
Tyler did not tell the kids to suicide bomb. He even makes this clear saying that he “lost control of the story” and that another kid came up with the land mine stuff.
He brainwashed them so they would die for him
I am so excited to experience a story about humanity. Great stories are few and far between in today's world and even more rare is shared humanity...something that reminds us of how similiar we are.
Think it’s deeply about our souls and finding those we love again somewhere out there or through others.
I loved your use of the Andrew Scott Hamlet! I didn’t even know that had been made. Could you share where to watch it?
Some of the confusing parts of this show were interesting and mysterious, and some were just confusing. Thank you for adding some clarity!
I thought in the end Kirsten would let go of her obsession with the book and the symphony and follow jeevan home. Just like she did in the beginning. She left the theater and followed where he led. Im not sure why they separated.
because they had their own lives
if she did follow him, THAT would have been an obsession...
I think this was the best thing that I saw during the pandemic and it bums me out that this got no play. This show goes, "What if you tell a post-apoc story, but you can't do any of the easy stuff? No big, bad, psycho governor, no zombie rehashery, no gun battles when you can't think of a better way to raise the stakes. Also, you have to make Shakespeare in the Dark an ass-clenching story beat, and no tits allowed." Then Station 11 does it HANDILY.
Brotha… watching every video. Voice. The time you take on each video. Please keep making these
I really liked this show overall, but one part I found unrealistic was everyone just seemingly forgiving Tyler for abducting all those children (and using some as suicide bombers). I would have expected his mother to have insisted he return all of the kidnapped children as a condition of her joining him on his travels, especially as she had gone through all of the pain and anguish of losing her child twenty years earlier. And don't get me wrong, I'm not some naïve optimist, I do realise that bad things happen and people get away with them without consequence. But that blanket acceptance from his mother just didn't seem consistent with the character.
tyler said in the show that while he was passed out from the stabbing, haley organized the bombings. I presume most/all of the children who follow them are kids he found which means they are likely orphans or something similar. I dont think he abducted them
Maybe he only abducted children from places that keep a lot of pre-pan items. He thinks he's saving the children from the inevitable conflict/turmoil/trauma associated with pre-pan adults.
I was thinking samething but he said if u kill me every one u love their lives will end so kids ready been brainwashed if she killed him or any of them killed him the kids will destroy the airport
One of the few good shows on ❤️ weird to watch it during a pandemic
i absolutely love this series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried watching this show but I just can't connect with it, people are saying it's a life altering masterpiece and I just don't see how it is. It's weird and confusing and triee too hard to be artistic and philosophical instead of just telling a consistent story with the characters. I got very attached to Jeevan and Kirsten in the first episode, their relatable dynamic as the world feel apart, it's actually one of the most realistic and human depictions of an apocalypse, and I loved the glimpses into the world years later when everything is overgrown and dilapidated. I've never been one for art or books or theatre, so this whole aspect of the show is lost on me, and I found myself skimming through episodes 2-6 to just get to what happened next with Jeevan and Kirsten, because this show jumps around in time and doesn't fill in the blanks in-between until much later, and I just can't watch and enjoy a show that is structured like that, like a jigsaw puzzle without a picture on the box that only makes sense when you finish it. The story with J&K is amazing and their acting is stellar, especially Kirsten, amazing young actress, but the rest of the show is just weird and whacky and eccentric, and after talking to fans, I realise this show just isn't for me, and even after watching this summary it just doesn't sound appealing, which is a shame because episode 1 really hooked me in, but the tonal shift into episode 2 makes it feel like a completely different show
i got hooked on this show cause the first episode was really intriguing but after that it got super wacky and eccentric like you were saying. felt kinda ripped off but i guess its just not for me. 🤷🏻♀️
@@lowercornet7162 it became a completely different show after episode one
So no-one brought up how he killed two little kids by strapping them with mines???
Or how he literally abandoned a whole group of little kids in the woods.....
I think he told her that while he was recovering from his stab wound, one of the other kids convinced the younger kids to strap on the mines. The girl who brought mines to the airport
He didn't abandon the kids, he had already planned with them where to meet up later etc., including coming to the airport once he 'lit the torch' (AKA set fire to the control tower). Don't get me wrong, he was still an evil person for abducting them and using them as suicide bombers!
@@LHyoutube he wasn't the one to use them as suicide bombers and child did that
There's no before
The kristen-Jeevan reunion was the best part of the show
The hamlet scene had me undone! Cryin just thinking about it
same
@@monharris28 would love to talk more about it!
I have this feeling that whoever made this film, did not like the novel. They loved the story but did not like the fate the original author grabyed to each of her characters. So the maker of this series decided to alter a lot of things, big things even. They made Jeevan and Kristen have this bond and stuff while in the book Kristen looks for Jeevan, the man who was kind to her when Arthur Leander died on stage but she never finds that man. Jeevan finds his meaning in service but just like everyone involved in service, he stays anonymous, just the man who performed cpr on arthur, known for his deed not his name.
I just could not like the adult Kirsten, I don't know if it was the actor or the writing or maybe it's on purpose. The kid version of Kirsten was great! I did like the reunion with Jeevan.
Same. It's a nice addition to the story that the book didn't have
Agreed. She was too cross-eyed-on-purpose-not-by-nature and constantly emoting yet showing no authenticity, insight or connectivity. Young Kirsten was brilliant. I could watch her for days. Maybe that’s the problem, she was too wonderful to let go of. And yeah - maybe that was on purpose? It’s heartbreaking to think the story makes you have to stop loving young Kirsten tho.
the museum of civilization thing looks exactly like one one featured in Y the last man. Same setup too
Except even the younger Kirsten was far more of a man than Yorrick could ever be! 😂
if only there were 2 more episodes! I felt there was more to flesh out with many characters. TBH I didn't get the whole Station eleven thing, with the story in the graphic novel and how it corresponded with what was happening. I didn't get the visions of the blue spaceman, or what the graphic novel actually was about. It was only in the last episode when one of the kids says that they landmines were beacons for the ship. so did they think that the ship called station 11 was going to come down and save them? that would mean that tyler was planning to kill all the kids with the mines, heavens gate style.
Criminally underrated show right here.
There can't be a Season 2, when season 1 concluded the main story arc.
Great video. Will you be covering Book of Boba Fett?
This was a great Ending explanation! Thank you!!!
I gotta say I thought this show was a little corny with the whole traveling symphony thing in a post apocalyptic world. But as the story develops and you start seeing the connections between the characters, it becomes much more. The back and forth in the storylines was done well and the writing was really good. In my opinion there is no need for a second season.
Decent roundup of the show. Great show - very well thought out. I have my peeves and problems with it - but I stuck to the creator's vision and version of the story and ultimately enjoyed the intelligent ride. Many liberties and convenient plot situations and story-telling license are exploited vs what would really happen in post-apocalyptic scenarios - but that just kept me on my toes to try to see if what happened could possibly really happen (especially all these talented people winding up alive - and together). I went with it and didn't let it bother me and trusted the story. Like many question: could these people really really survive - with almost NO FOOD or resources or running water, etc. once the main resources were gone - after some time. And wouldn't there be more danger from the outside - other survivors - regardless of how many people died. Besides those HUGE aspects that weren't addressed that well - I enjoyed 1 of the better series I've seen in years. I like story telling - I just don't like when way too many liberties and plot points are way way too convenient. But I can also still enjoy something for the way it was written - knowing it was a book - then a series - and it's not exactly REALITY. It's based in reality - but is a sensational, interesting, interwoven story - that - is - a - story. So I get that - and many critics do not get that a story is just that - and can still be based in reality and you don't have to always poke holes in things. I can poke holes in other fantastic films - say - Batman lol - but I only do so in the reality that is created within the movie(s). Thanks for the recap - carry on.
Great review of the roundup! I too had some issues with the liberties they took at first, but the story was so eloquently told, that I was able to look past them and see the show for what the writers wanted us to see. I loved it, it was a fresh take on a genre that's done many times.
I don't think this was really meant to be taken as an accurate depiction of an apocalypse...more of like a story within a story...I went thinking this would be another apocalypse type show/movie and yeah I don't think I've seen anything like this...it was like classic literature but on tv...pretty cool take on the genre
Thank for explaining it because I didn't know WTF was going on.
Same 😂
I haven't watched this yet because I was worried it wouldn't be faithful to the source. No adaption is perfect but this one seems to be close to it. Thanks for covering it. This convinced me to give it a chance after all 😄
Amazing show!!!
Great analysis
I was expecting this shit to be like The Postman where Kevin Costner was a travelling actor who puts on Shakespeare shows from town to town and The Prophet was like the leader of The Eight.
I have a question. When Arthur died, the only one who noticed that something was wrong was Jeevan, why is that?
I forget exactly what he said. But, when he was asked about it in the episode, why he was the only one that noticed. He replied he might not have been. He was just the first one that stood up.
The book did a better job of explaining why Jeevan is the one who knew what was happening. In the book Jeevan catches that Arthur repeats a line from earlier in the play.
I thought it was something to do with his family members being doctors so he knew the signs. That comes back later when he gets mistaken as a doctor and helps deliver the babies. And then eventually, he does become one!
"The Bystander Effect, or bystander apathy, is a social psychological theory that states that individuals are less likely to offer help to a victim when there are other people present." People feel less compelled to act when they expect that someone else will do it instead. He wasn't the only one who noticed.
I actually read Jeevan as a shaman--someone who was very perceptive and sensitive--in the beginning it gets masked sometimes with his anxiety, but in the end, he is steady and sure
Maybe someone can explain this to me... Kirsten calls the wolf Jeevan is slaughtering Big Daddy, and his family, but isn't the wolf who attacked him big daddy, and they were separated? That and the stolen scene from The Stand were my inly two real gripes.
I don't think she calls the slaughtered wolf Big Daddy, although I might be wrong.
And which scene was stolen from The Stand?
It's not a bad show but some moments are extremely frustrating. Like if you kidnap children, brainwash them and turn them into suicide bombers, YOU ARE A MONSTER! There can't be any redemption for that character on the stage that justify his previous actions. You can't have him and his mommy walking away with an army of kids in the finale and expect me (the viewer) to be satisfied.
the book does have a different take for the prophet though.
But again to the monster we are the monsters. So Clark and the whole community that basically exiled him are the monsters that turned him into a monster
He didn’t use them as suicide bombers. There is a scene that explains another kid told them to do it when he was sick from his stab wound
we gotta make moves ,never ever ever could we fake moves!!
This show was beautiful! I absolutely loved it. And it was not at all what I expected!
(This show left you with unanswered questions? We must have watched different shows!)
The Prophet/David/Tyler didn't know anything about the child soldiers. When he was wounded one of the kids developed her own interpretation of his retelling of Station Eleven and acted on it.
The writer obviously likes the book I am Legend
Can someone hash out for me exactly why Tyler felt so strongly about having no reminders of before the apocalypse? How is living in a post pandemic world with his mother and a bunch of strangers less traumatic to him than living in a functioning society with two parents, albeit both very distance and now divorced parents, but still, I don't see how the "trauma" we see Tyler experience, coupled with the influence of "station eleven" is enough to lead to a life altering "cleanse the world" complex and his eventual self exile. Also where did this sheltered son of Hollywood types gain not only the skills but the courage to venture out into the wilderness with basically nothing. This part of the show doesn't seem to be developed properly and for me it takes alot away from the big picture. Maybe I missed something, hopefully I did and someone can explain.
Tyler associates everyone who knew what life was like before the Pandemic as people who will kill to cling to the way it was before. They used the "before" to justify destruction.
His traumatic moment of helping the one sick man who survived quarantine in the plane only to have someone shoot him in the head quickly rewires him.
Pre-pandemic people are monsters.
And he associates post-pandemic people as innocent and open to create a future together.
@tspring12 I agree, and that was just one of the many things I found hard to suspend disbelief for in this show. The very fact that he was shot basically without warning and remorse I don't buy at all. I have to say that for the most part, I found this show to be exactly what Jeevan called the book - "so pretentious!". Practically none of the characters felt real. Kirsten didn't kill Alex although she had plenty of opportunities. Alex was actually supposed to be a sympathetic character, despite the fact that he murdered children (via suicide-mines) for his own purposes.
In my view he is gifted. There's no way he's neurotypical. That's why he's been so smart and has such strong opinions since he was a kid. Before venturing out he had already researched everything. It's still a bit unrealistic, but it's the only explanation I've found.
What a great fucking show.
Thanks for saving Me time only thing that was into was the beginning
I loved it, I simply loved it.
I think I enjoyed this video more than the actual series. Thanks.
❤️❤️❤️ this Show!! Mackenzie is awesome 🥰👍
I haven’t heard anyone else besides me compare this to the OA but damn it’s accurate . Such a complex and beautiful story from both shows.
So the world ends, and this spaceman story lives on.
It would be funny if there was a space man in the international space station.
Can you please do yellow jackets next?🙏🏾
I loved the book. I would like to see the show. They did changed it a lot but seems it payed off.
You might want to watch the show again, my dude. Three minutes in and you’ve already gotten SO MANY details wrong. I think someone may need to explain it to you first
So, in the series we know who ended up with 3 copies of the graphic novel... Who had the other two copies?
maybe they were still with miranda? she seemed to be called to malaysia rather suddenly and was perhaps going to head to whatever cities the people who she wanted to give the other copies to lived in.
Thank you sooo much for this review. You have spared me the disgust of watching a series that is too boring for my taste and that HBO misleadingly described as a scifi adventure
Kirsten says, “hey, don’t take my horse!”
Something I would add that never seems to get talked about would be the different ways these people approach a new society. Severn DOES want to preserve the past, even if a more communal version of it. Traveling symphony chooses to opt out of society. There are small communal villages. And Tyler abducts all the kids to let their imaginations create an entirely new society. The way the final shot was filmed shows that Tyler has the population that will probably win out. Whatever they create, by sheer numbers, is probably going to be the dominant socioeconomic model. AND the fact that they were allowed to be creative in bring the graphic novel (prophecy) to life in their costume means they're going to get real creative with society. Maybe.
I could never get the point. It all seemed like a waste of my time but I held on hoping it might get better. I never did and I found myself wanting them to all just die lol .
That's exactly what this show was -- a waste of time.
I really liked this show!
this show is way more fun for theatre kids
I think this show was unnecessarily monotonous, also I felt it was a really slow show. I’m not saying it’s bad, I just think that it could be told in less chapters with the same impact and message
Maybe I overlooked, but how did miranda know that the plane was infected?
This show seemed like it had elements to be good but never got around to it.
Miranda was by far the most interesting character and had the best episodes.
I COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!
I agree! Kirsten was boring to me except for her knife skills. I like Miranda and Javeen (sp?) the most. The other characters were very unlikeable. The first episode was the best and then episode 3 and5.
Agreed. The book was ok, and this show is over-bloated and pretentious.
"They're on that countertop"
i wanted to here the esoteric version explained not the obvious exoteric version
Well, I don’t know. Critics loved it , audiences, not so much. I just have a few comments. What happened to the cat in Frank’s apartment? Just left to die? Also, tie it up in a hopeful bow. Tyler murdered the conductor and his grand children. The grief caused the composer to have a heart attack and eventually die. That’s 4 killings Tyler! And he just goes on his merry way, no accountability. Personally, I think he was a psychopath and needed killing. So , no , thumb’s down.
The cat didn't belong to Frank (as far as I could tell), I think it was just a cat left behind after another resident died, and it roamed the building or at least the level their apartments were on. I think that's why Kirsten was calling it through the vents, because it roamed around now to fend for itself. So they likely would have just let it leave through the door after Frank's death.
How is it this Drama club is so successful in the apocalypse? I'd figure they'd be the first to be taken out by some Mad Max style biker gang or a gang of ex military militia
You never know who will survive. Plus society has always used media to make them feel better. And most of the earth's population is gone I can't remember how much exactly but something like 90 or 99% died within a few weeks
So we're just gonna ignore the thousands of people spread across the field? I had no idea Tyler already gathered up a colony!
Do you mean when the airport residents left?
I read the book, and loved it. It's a permanent feature on my re-read schedule. (Do I need to state my disappointment and dislike at the story here? The casting, the script, the filming, the pacing, the conclusion?) This is like watching the first Dune movie, and the recent one. This is like watching BBC Survivors 2008. This is trash. As a stand alone thing it may have been fun for people, really good fun even. But it wasn't. It was based on somebody elses idea. Either come up with your own idea or drop that greatness like a hot coal and walk away. This is like watching World War Z, after reading World War Z (and any good screenwriter will tell you just how painful that felt).
Kirsten!! 😍😍😍
Thanks for this summary. I just watched the first 3 episodes and I am sure it's deep and fantastic but I am not really into it. So I started to search some video to understand what is going on and where this show will go. Well I think I stop watching now. I don't think it's bad but it's not for me tbh.
Thanks again, You saved hours of my time :)
I love the concept, but as a whole…it had a lot of flaws. Some things that took too much time added nothing to the plot. That’s my biggest complaint personally.
@@Plsbringtea Well I have so many good ( I mean what i think I like) series to watch, so I do not have 24 hrs in a day to watch tv shows, so I need to watch only what I really like. This is why I said this show is just not for me, but it still fantastic for some other ppl.
If the apocalypse occurred and the only survivors were uninteresting drama school people.
Also, Not once in the entire shows run, do they show the "traveling symphony's" ability to gather resources to survive
Yeah, this “apocalypse” really sucks, it reminds me of the happy-go-lucky silly side of the apocalypse that is always portrayed in media. I assume 20 years on, the most successful people in the post-apocalypse would how the Amish look today. Though I suppose that wouldn’t be a particularly exciting TV show. But, really? Shakespeare? It’s just so… dross.
I was also wondering how do they stay clean/have new cloths each time, stay hydrated, have enough food to survive, I think they could at least show a glimpse of that.
they never show them poop either! Like, do they just go in the woods? What about when they're in towns? Are there latrines or does everyone just walk out of town to find a place to go? The show really dropped the ball and could have been so much better.
@@blanktom6049 When they new guy who auditions with the Independence Day speech joins, there's a scene where he's given a shovel and gets told to go dig the latrines after they make a stop.
@@blanktom6049 - While technically correct, I'm just picturing you dreaming of a post-apocalyptic drama which is just constantly people pooping! 😂
The spaceman was pilot Hugo wasn't he?
I don't think so. He was just a character in the comic, and then a product of people who had read the comic's imaginations when they saw him in real-life.
Rip frank bro
The world ends and NOT ONE MENTION of the international space station.
I was confused until episode 5 maybe I’ was just too high
I found every character in the TV show annoying AF except for The Prophet, which is weird, because even though he was a villain, he was likeable.
This telling is not at all consistent with the book. It is an entirely different telling with same character names.
To the monsters we are the monsters…
An extremely trite idea. It's been beaten to death.
Why don't they want to stay at the airport?!
Can’t wait for Station 12
I should love the series but I have a big issue with Tyler. What's he? how come he can brainwash the children to do suicide bombing? how come Kristen started wanted to murder him to take revenge for her friends but end up becoming ... friends? With nothing in hand, how can he bomb the museum of civilization? how can he reprogram a 20-yrs-old Nitendo Switch to a remote control?
1:15 Miranda is actually this girl from Atlanta. Brilliant. ruclips.net/video/BG5KUrO3sPE/видео.html