REPORTED! GMRS User Causes Harmful Interference ON THE AIR!
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- This is a new story I found about a GMRS Operator causing harmful interference on a GMRS repeater, and what the FCC is doing (or not doing) about it.
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Its funny that the Hams never think a Ham guys do the same shit.
I've got a couple of stories on this channel about Hams doing the same thing, so I don't know who you're talking to.
Wasn't aimed at you at all, just an observation ive been noticing a lot lately. @@HamRadio2
I've not seen that. Most people I know complain about the idiots on 7.200MHz
There's plenty more stories than the tired idiots on 7.200
Yes I would report somebody for interfering any where.
Absolutely. Hate intentional jammers, don't care what band or service it's on...
I truly don't believe it was intentional jamming on his part. I'm not sure why he didn't notice the malfunction sooner. Maybe he was out of the area for a bit?
Yes. If I went to the trouble of purchasing, installing and maintaining a repeater on my own dime, I would definitely report someone who was abusing it.
I'm both Ham and GMRS licensed. One thing I appreciate about GMRS is that the whole family can operate off one license. If you are lucky enough to have a good GMRS repeater in your area it can be a good thing for families. Some jerk tying up the repeater may just keep someone's kid or spouse out at night with phone issues from being able to contact someone when needed. Yeah, someone deliberately interfering with legitimate repeater operation or proper use of airwaves on any band should be reported.
As a ham, CB`er and GMRS op agreed the family being able to talk under one lic is the only thing that GMRS is good for to me. its nothing special that my CB or ham stuff wont do and really UHF very limited i dont have allot of gmrs rep here and some even have a charge to use it well thats stupid and i wont be paying to use a repeater. but this is the wrong place to go there.. 73 all.
I have two gmrs repeaters on the air. Fortunately I have not experienced interference on either. But my Elmer has a gmrs repeater just south of me and he fights interference all the time. Including someone that only causes interference when he is on his repeater. I am forwarding him this video. Until recently, we just assumed the FCC wouldn’t do anything so it would be a waist of time. But now I believe we both should report the interference. Thanks for the video.
I would definitley report someone if I had spent money on a repeater and they were intentionally causing interference. I wouldn't be able to use my own repeater! Who wouldn't report that?
Exactly
If this is about the guy in Steelton/Harrisburg, PA, it isn't over. The FCC is still in town working.
Now that I got a chance to watch the video (life happens, was busy), there are multiple people in the area doing the same stuff on both GMRS and ham repeaters in the area. They've been doing it for months, if not years. It went from annoying to beyond infuriating.
The guy in the article (don't want to name names) did get on a vhf net a few days after getting pinched, and gave a sobbing apology to the club.
I also heard from a little bird, that linked GMRS repeaters and digital mode stuff (with maybe an exception for gps/aprs) are about to become a huge no-no because that isn't consistent with the intended use of GMRS.
If I was on a jammed repeater and knew where the jam was coming from I would definitely tell the repeater owner
Then gather a posey, and pay that Fk'r a midnight visit!?
Pin through the coax and kiss their finals goodbye?
From time to time there have been a few peskies on ham radio frequencies. GMRS seems to be more casual radio users. It would be good for GMRS users to at least go over the fcc guidelines and also understand there is an etiquette standard on using radios. The radios will be necessary during emergency situations. So respect the radio family. One day they may be your lifeline.
I think most of the complainers are actually making comments online
You need to do a video on Mark Sherman of Fine Tune CB Radio Shop, he has a juiced up base station in NM stepping on everyone in most of North America coast to coast on CB channel 19, hes killing the CB hobby. Hes been doing this for over 2 years and the FCC seems to not be doing anything about it.
Be safe on those highways and byways. I actually had to turn off my cb and kept it off for 98% of my recent trip. It really p’d me off when I had to turn it off because of this guy and then got stuck in a major avoidable traffic jam. When I put the radio back on after I got in the jam. I heard all about it. I believe many other drivers are doing the same thing. Killing CB altogether.
get a scanner,put in local highway patrol,462.650 and 462.675 are used here for some truck traffic@@michaelgraycar444
Appreciate the shoutout with our article from National Communications Magazine, Jason!
If it keeps up, the FCC may require a test as a review for proper operation, and FCC regulations.
They need to do the same for DRIVING A CAR
As much as I think some kind of basic test for GMRS is a good idea, it would not stop people like this guy, he knew exactly what he was doing.
there is no test on GMRS.
@@bradkellison5359 Wow, we did not know that......
My opinion is that if they require a test, then they need to open up the frequency from 461.75-468.99 all frequencies within, allow some sort of text messaging system using a android or apple interface, fm, am, and ssb. I also think at that point 90 watts of power should be able to be used on the high power channels. I mean come on, if they are going to test for the radio license, let us really get use from it. I know , I know, why not ham? Because Ham doesn't seem to have the casual dress code that GMRS has. But if they going to test for it, might as well open it up and allow some of that ham like use.
Amazes me on this attention to GMRS while we have a jammer that broadcasts foul stuff on a VERY high level repeater here in Northern CA for the last 2 years.
Agreed
Yes, a group of us up here in northern Minnesota owns a GMRS repeaters and we are license and we are also Amateur Radio operators and our licensed and we have two more repeaters in the Amateur Radio band 2 m and 33cm repeaters and looking at putting up at 440 repeater as well
Being respectful prevents a lot of problems in this hobby.
👍👍Always! Use your radios respectfully and responsibly! For example If someone is using a UV-5R Ham Radio on GMRS/FRS/MURS (Technically a violation) in a responsible manner, NO ONE CARES. It's the IDIOTS and JERKS that screw over EVERYONE else.
I am just getting my GMRS repeater online and if after a couple of attempts to resolve the situation nicely and the jack***ery continued I would report. GMRS has to continue to self police and report or the regulations will get stricter and testing will be implemented. If that happens one of the best aspects of GMRS (use by immediate family) may go away as well.
Agreed
I'm a HAM, and GMRS licensee, and yes I have a GMRS repeater too.
Greenbrier 675 in north central Arkansas, it mostly for family use, but also open for anyone licenses to use.
Being a rural area, not a lot of traffic, some days none at all. But its part of SHTF plan....
If someone doesn't report then they really have no grounds for complaining that "the FCC doesn't do anything" right.
True
The way I heard about this case was another video refusing to name the individual OR his call sign (both public record) in the interest of not breaking the law..... you read that right.
Was that notarubicon? He did two videos. The first got flagged because he said the name.
@@senseijay51 Two words - *"Public Record"* even YT's lawyers knew when to stop. FCC is a different animal and RUclips knows nothing about it
Looking forward to the 11m video since that's where I started when I was young...and accordingly notified by the FCC for my linear and shenanigans.
I had a GMRS license before my ham license.
A buddy of mine wins the local Fox hunts every time theyre held. His record so far has been 33 seconds. All you need is an sdr with a waterfall display, a driectionsl antenna and a step attenuator. Once you find the perp, a good set of cable cutters right through the coax, removing a 2-3 ft section right in the middle will solve the problem.
Or you could be like me and confront them directly but im not so polite..
We have a local GMRS jammer here. Dude has his mobile radio keyed up non-stop with a siren sound going for hours on end. Part of the reason why I kinda left the GMRS game and been sticking to ham. We tracked him down, told it to stop it. Dude said he wont.
Send me some recordings
This seems crazy to me, what thrill does he get? is it some sort of pay back? what the heck?
I would. If I spent my own money to get the repeater going for people to use for communicating, I would be beyond ticked someone was causing interference.
Same
We don't hear much on gmrs, but my wife and I use simplex in our small town. Everyone else uses the phone.
As both a licensed Ham and GMRS'er if I set up a repeater and somebody started to mess with it, of course I would report it! Now, if I got his call sign and his personal info from the FCC Data Base, like we used to say on CB in NYC in the 1980s "I'd send a Squelch Squad to their house and ________.!" Back then We'll give them a scare and take away or wreck their radios. If we can - a small needle into the coax to short out the cable core with its shielding... We were damn devious. But this is the 2020, and such games are no longer allowed, so yes, I'd report them and keep reporting them everyday until its radio silence from their end.
In fact - This past summer I had to report some idiots on MURS because they were using Ham Equipment on MURS pushing 200+ Watts when MURS only allows 1/2 watt. Furthermore two were over modulating their signals so badly, they were causing TVI.And on top of that, one of them said that a certain Ham Operator (me) was causing them trouble in the air and threatened to come to my place to "Do Me In." Since I was recording their convos, I sent a copy of this threat to the police and to the FCC, With some help with some fellow Hams in NYC, we tracked them down and submitted their location info to the FCC and the police. All this SHI*T started around the end of May. It was Radio Silence by July. In truth I do not know who made the move against them - the NYPD or the FCC, but they were shut down and have not been heard off since.
But the problem here in NYC, there are many operating Ham and GMRS Radio equipment without a license, so unless you fox hunt their tails, without a call sign to find them, it is harder to get them.
There's an individual on a local 2m repeater here in Tennessee that intentionally causes harmful interference. I'd like to know how to get the ball rolling on getting the FCC to do some sort of investigation.
It's annoying that someone will waste time and energy because they have nothing better to do than to harmfully cause interference on a repeater. Honestly, if an individual is caught doing such actions, the FCC should just revoke the individual's license and confiscate their radio equipment.
I would absolutely report it. It’s surprising that no one got together and did a fox hunt.
Thanks for this.
The repeater in question was jamming another repeater in our area. You could not scan with your radio because it would halt on the channel/frequency of the "malfunctioning" repeater. It went on for three weeks to a month, and the transmissions sounded like telemetry data was being sent in bursts (and data other than position reporting is not allowed). One would think, as a repeater owner, that you would check in on the repeater that you are owning and operating on occasion to insure it is not "malfunctioning". It is a shame, as the offending repeater was at a location that would really reach out ("more fars" - Not A Rubicon) and the operator was planning on linking two others with that repeater.
Kinda hard when it is on a mountain top that is not easy accessible. especially when you have to wait til Aug for the snow to melt. I used to be in a club that had a repeater up just under 6,000 ft. we waited to get up there cause a snow cat would not make the trip as the paths were only 1 vehicle wide with no room to spare.
@@bradkellison5359 Not the repeater in question. Late spring on the Oregon coast doesn't leave any snow at all at 1350 feet elevation. Our climate is very temperate here that time of year. I am sad that he took the repeater down. He was going to link two more with it.
Had problems with people constantly kerchunking, went to the repeater and changed the input tones, that took care of the problem, the repeater is solar powered,and is used for short conversations,for local no cell phone coverage areas
If you are the repeater owner and you are getting interference from a user on that repeater. you can ask them to stop and if they do not then you have to alert the FCC as to what is going on so they then can send an NAL to them to stop the activity. if they persist in causing harmful interference then the FCC will take action to it to resolve it. It is up to the users to let the owner of the repeater know if it is getting interference when and for how long. also if you can make recordings of it makes it go faster thru the process. Do not encourage the person causing the interference or keep talking about it as it does nothing to stop it. This works if all involved weither Amateur radio operator or GMRS operators.
I think the first thing is to talk to the person causing the interference, be an adult ask them to stop.
If they don't stop, then gather the evidence and have someone else file the report (wife, friends, etc).
I heard you say that truck drivers are using gmrs- what freq do they use and is this where the dumpster fire are going on?
During my last 2 roadtrips, I have just scanned through channels 1-16 and found them in multiple places. AFAIK, there is no "official" trucker channel
I'm curious what psychological condition people have to cause them to be such a-holes and jam up the frequencies like they do, on any part.
Did you hear about the ATF's kick to the twins, on the Pistol Brace verdict? Its an incredible 2A win!
I believe I heard about that, yes
Yes I do
If owning the repeater you can send kill tone to the offending radio user who is interfering with your repeater
they popped a fella in erie pa in 2022....many charges filed
Under the biker code, we're not allowed to report anybody. What I do is have a fox hunt, then a beatdown.
That is the righteous method to solve this. You don't call big brother govt, you take care of the problem like men. Excellent comment, TNX!
I remember here in Haleyville Alabama the fcc were here a lot they got a guy more than one time for running a lot of power with his Browning golden eagles when he keyed up he would wipe out 23 channels at that time when 40 channels come in he got them all the way up to end the 30s he would walk them with signals will you couldn't talk when he keyed up you just cut your radio off and give up him or his wife either one when they made that Mike squeal that was it you were not going to use your radio to talk to no one they busted him I don't know how many times with a lot of power people claim that you could pull up in his yard take the battery off your car and when he keyed up headlight everything up in the car with all the power he was running this I never seen but I do know when you had your radio on he would cover you up he had a brother that lived in Birmingham had the same setup with the same amount of power I mean they could definitely do some talkin.
People who drive around with antennas on their car reporting people are the same people that were Hall monitors in grade school and high school
I own 2 amateur radio repeaters and a GMRS repeater and you better believe since I open my GMRS to the public that if you cause problems on it you will be 1) asked to leave and 2) if continues you will be reported to the FCC with dates times and recordings of the interference. 3) the fcc will not have to track you down as I will already do that for them since I know the range of my GMRS repeater. Note I said Track you down not confront you on it as that would then be done by the FCC.
If the FCC would crack down on the CB'ers then the angry GMRS crowd would settle down and realize the FCC can reach out and make you comply. I have a feeling they pickup the attitude from hanging around that influence.
Indeed
Jason, is it possible to make GMRS repeaters private like they do with some ham repeaters?
I ...think so... but I am not 100% sure.
@@HamRadio2 Thanks
You do not have to open your repeater up to the public, however with the easy ability to decode whatever tones are used you may get some wise guy that wants to play games. I'm not sure what recourse can be had other than shutting down and re-toning the repeater. Lather, rinse, repeat.
@@manandatractor Right, since many of the radios have the tone scanning to detect what tone the repeater uses.
USUALLY the FCC only reacts to a complaint. Someone complained.
They've also said they are cracking down in places.
I would for sure.
If you really think you need to be malicious on a two-way radio: CB, 27.3850 LSB is the place for you. For decades now, I've not heard ANYONE get in trouble for jamming, playing music, or trying to entertain others because you likely have the people skills that are comparable to a convicted murderer.
27.385 lower sideband has turned into a zoo...
@@larrynorris8775 Yep! And thus it's become a great place to test my EQs and Effects Processors and studio mic that I use on my Icom 7300 while listening to the monitor - err, over-glorified "talk-back".🤣🤣🤣
Yes. I would.
I got my GMRS license for family comms especially in grid down emergencies. It isn't just the repeater owner getting burned, it's also those who have permission to use it. Yeah, I'd report abuse.
Let's say hypothetically there is a emp or collapse what would the call sign do.
In times of a true emergency, you don't need a callsign or even a license to operate a radio. But this isn't an emergency, and during these times of relative peace, it is a good idea to practice radio in the right way, which is where the callsign comes in. Sort-of like taking your pistol to a shooting range and practicing for an emergency that you hope never happens.
@@HamRadio2 true enough I don't have a number but always monitor.
@@HamRadio2 I have never keyed up nore would I unless an emergency arose.
It's completely acceptable to listen and monitor
Notarubicon is the one stirring up the ham hate in the GMRS community. He's manufacturing drama because it appeals to a certain type.
Yes, I would report them. It is simple don't be a jerk.
I too would report GMRS users if they showed any indication that they were more attractive than me, weren't overweight, have made love to a woman, or even suggested that they have better things to do in life than study for and pass an outdated and increasingly irrelevant FCC license exam. Anyone not capable of demonstrating engineering level knowledge of RF should not be transmitting. I'm on the fence if they should even be allowed to receive.
Oh, Villa Repeater ! That's sad ! Yes that's not right ! Glad he was caught. ...Alan in 🇨🇱
A local "repeater association" has reported an issue t the FCC for hunters on the local repeater system. And I am pretty sure they are NON LICENSED Baofeng users and are hunters as it appears to be a problem regularly most years.
Hunters unite against ham nazis!!!
I'll keep using my baofengs!!!
@@MrSiestaFiestanot ham nazis we just want people to follow the sales rules we do ESPECIALLY when they are illegally using equipment that the association has doent thousand and thousands of dollars in gear and man hours installing for people to use that don't think they can do whatever the hell they want.
I'm in the middle of putting together a GMRS repeater in my area, and I would lose my ever living mind if someone was abusing it. 100% would report / record / initiate a fox hunt.
I have a GMRS repeater. I put it up for family but I don’t mind others using it. That said, the couple of times users have been ass**les about it I’ve just shut it off until I needed it again.
Other people using it isn't the same as others abusing it
I would definitely report them.
I would definitely report anyone using my repeater in an unlawful way, I just got back into radio after many years and must say I am disappointed with the things going on.
Agreed
I would absolutely report an abuser of my repeater, or a club's repeater. I already call people out, who are cussing on the radio! (Its Mostly the damn yankees!) If I can't do it, they can't do it! But clean language rules are why people of all ages are encouraged into ham radio. If I wanted cussing trashy people, i'd be into CB!
Was it Randy?
I’ve had my doubts about Randy… wonder, if it’s the same Randy?
Here is something to complain about! How about frs? We have to pay for a gmrs license, to share with frs users. It’s a constant interference on all channels. Sitting there talking on a repeater having to deal with kids, hospitals, schools and their grandma! Way to go FCC!
Yeah that is kinda dumb - but you can always tone them out too.
@@HamRadio2 kinda hard on a repeater. I keep telling the owners of the repeaters that as well 🤷♂️
You can set CTCSS or DCS tones on a repeater.
@@HamRadio2 Exactly. I've been trying to convince the owners of that, as previously stated.
As to accidentally using your "ham" call sign on GMRS, I think THAT should your secondary legal GMRS call sign. It became "muscle memory", And by BEING a "ham", you have shown that you know how to work a radio! 🤷♂️
#HamRadio2.0 Jason like you I hold both a HAM & GRMS license. If I spent the money to put up ANY repeater and someone was being a floater in the punchbowl, I'd make a recording of the interference and report. Now if it was a one off or maybe 2 off, meh I might just ask for common courtesy, yet 3rd TIME your MINE.
Conscious violators of established rules and regulation should be persecuted . . . I mean prosecuted.
Lol
yes i would report them.
If you are not being a jerk and yet doing things that are TECHNICALLY violations (Like using a UV-5R on GMRS/FRS/MURS for comms like a normal person) the likelihood of ANYTHING happening to you is virtually nil. So, Don't be a jerk!
C. B. Operator here, why do ham operators despise us?
What gives you that ridiculous idea? We almost ALL started out on 11 Meters. I still have my Realistic Navajo CB rig. We love radio but we don't respect those who ruin the experience for other radio users. Unfortunately, Ham is at risk of being degraded into chaos too. That's why I stick to CW mainly.
Those of us who aren't 'sad hams' don't despise you. Heck, there are times when scanning through the CB channels, and listening to the conversations there is much more entertaining than listening to the Hams. It's all about radio, and it's all about having fun. So, you do your thing, and I'll be listening. I might even join in from time to time.
I would report infractions on the air.
I would report them it is important for everyone to operate according to the FCC rules. Actually Interfering with part of our governments layered interoperability communications plan by being a jackass on any radio service.
The type compliance complaint is just stacking violations, the same thing DAs do. I still don't believe they're going to hunt down a couple people wheeling a hundred miles into the middle of the desert for using a couple boofwangs running 5wts and breaking no other tenants. Yes - don't be a jerk.
hams are the worst, i enjoy gmrs and the people
Adding negative comments on a video doesn't really help your argument.
I’m glad they are going after these fools who think they won’t be caught.
You're stealing all of @TheNotaRubicon content.
Actually, he is a jeep channel that's "stealing" radio and comms content.
@@HamRadio2 but because he refuses to get a tech license that's all the content he has anymore. 🤣
I like his reviews but damn. How much talk is there about GMRS!
@@Rusted_Link Right - Randy is a good dude and his content is quite funny - but his videos are mostly a schtick to get people to click.
CB Radio should go back to requiring a license ,$35 for 10 years enforce 4 watts FM/AM and 12 watts PEP SSB. THIS is why I stick with GMRS/FRS and NO I do NOT want to get my Ham license so don't try recruiting me into that cult lol
Ham users are the worst. Shove the license up your ss. I'll keep using my baogengs.
Hell yes I’d complain! I’d be pist off!
Right!
I just got me last week gmrs license what is sad I have to watch RUclips channels to learn how to use an operate and program and whatever but I love this kind of shit so I do it lol stand strong keep the videos going 73 WSDH707
Thanks