Powering An Old Mill - 1.5 Kw Lake District Overshot Waterwheel Project Part 2

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2023
  • After all the hours of work in the workshop and two years in planning and design we finally go to the location of the waterwheel and get it installed. In this video you will see the now galvanised and painted wheel get installed in it location and some initial testing done. We will go back to it in a few weeks once the proper cables have been run and make some final improvements and do some more test.

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  • @SkyDenali
    @SkyDenali 7 месяцев назад +678

    Hi Kris, regarding the water splashing over the wheel, years ago when I was working at a small gold mine, we would attach a heavy rubberized tarp (maybe 8mm thick) to the top of the trough which draped over the top of the sluice to prevent splashing, essentially creating a cowling. The tarp was the same width as the sluice (or wheel in this case) and maybe a meter long and rode on top of the flow of water. It created a really smooth delivery.

    • @KrisHarbour
      @KrisHarbour  7 месяцев назад +305

      I have seen that before actually. I might give that a try when I back there next. it will be interesting to see if that would help. thanks for the comment.

    • @PeterLee-zn3jl
      @PeterLee-zn3jl 7 месяцев назад +30

      Maybe alroper screw driven sluice gate...and an adjudtable spillway lip that will stop side losses and aim at correct angle and depth onf water drop...why not make a curved corner out of ss steel and ckntain overslill ..?

    • @markschattefor6997
      @markschattefor6997 7 месяцев назад +25

      @@KrisHarbour I'm wondering if it is necessary that the spillway they build follows the original flow.
      What would be the problem if you would make it straight and adjust the wheel to the right angle?
      Okay, maybe you have to put new footings in the riverbed.
      But it is also possible with a few beams and glueclamps on the existing structure to straighten the spillway,
      and with two planks you could support the wheel temporary, after all it is an experimental setup.

    • @wendyandgeoffpattison2610
      @wendyandgeoffpattison2610 7 месяцев назад +18

      I can't help thinking that for longevity it would be better to make the whole thi thing from gal coated steel.

    • @EuroWarsOrg
      @EuroWarsOrg 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@KrisHarbour Any idea what the flow rate is in metres / second?

  • @yoyopg123
    @yoyopg123 7 месяцев назад +185

    The best 47:10 I'll spend all day. What a wonderful project with beautiful workmanship. This turned out even better than I imagined it would. Congratulations, Kris.

  • @markwilson7788
    @markwilson7788 7 месяцев назад +18

    In a world where fewer and fewer of us are in work that does anything very useful, it is great to see someone doing something so inventive and clever.

  • @_CAT-lg4sr
    @_CAT-lg4sr 7 месяцев назад +11

    Met a man who was a retired attorney from New York city. He bought an old ( 1800's ) mill and 30 acre millpond with a high flow rate in a rural part of Connecticut, USA. The property included a dozen or so workers cabins. He restored all the cabins to rentals and converted the mill into his private residence.
    He converted the site of the old rotted out wheel to a down draught 6 foot diameter vertical shaft turbine with about a 20 foot head column over top of the turbine. The 2400 volt 3 phase 250KW alternator was mounted in a generator house over top of the turbine. Power went to an electric distribution building and transformed to 120/240 for the residences and another transformer for 120/208 3 phase for his shop building. Excess power feeds into the grid.
    Hydro electric power rocks!

  • @ryanzanow8221
    @ryanzanow8221 7 месяцев назад +160

    Your quality and workmanship absolutely amazes me!!
    Found you just a couple days ago with the “1.5kw” build, and started “binge watching”.
    Just finished the water wheel part 1, and was bummed I had to wait for part 2….but obviously you just needed a couple minutes , because here I am!
    Thanks for documenting all of this, man!

    • @Ian_Christensen
      @Ian_Christensen 7 месяцев назад +5

      Craftsmanship like in the 50/60's

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool 7 месяцев назад +11

      Same I went full rabbit hole on his channel the other day. Ended up pinching myself at 2am and telling myself off to go to bed. He's the British Andrew Camarata!

    • @ryanzanow8221
      @ryanzanow8221 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@tbrowniscool so true!!

    • @Ian_Christensen
      @Ian_Christensen 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@tbrowniscool you've got alot of content to look 4ward 2

    • @cfnorg5308
      @cfnorg5308 7 месяцев назад +4

      oh boy, I wish I were you... then I could binge watch him all over again. :D

  • @om617yota7
    @om617yota7 7 месяцев назад +53

    Ahhhhhhhh so excited to see this, but I'm AT WORK and can't watch it right now! I'll let it run and just listen so you get more play time out of it.
    Kris, you really are living the dream. Out of all the RUclipsrs I follow, you are my absolute favorite, and building a life that's closest to my own definition of utopia. Thank you for all that you do, thank you for sharing it with us and taking us along for the ride. Really looking forward to making a cup of tea, relaxing after work, and watching this properly.

    • @xisssd
      @xisssd 7 месяцев назад +1

      Where do you work?

    • @you-know-who.
      @you-know-who. 7 месяцев назад +2

      Bet ur sick of hearing about the ring piece audio only😅

    • @jbuckley2546
      @jbuckley2546 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@you-know-who. And sitting on his....

  • @jimmyfavereau
    @jimmyfavereau 6 дней назад

    God Bless

  • @Obermuhle
    @Obermuhle 7 месяцев назад +42

    Hello Kris, great project :)
    I built a water wheel with an electrical output of 13.5kW. Runs 24/7 since 2012 at up to 40,000kWh/year.
    What I notice about your water wheel is that the water falls too far into the wheel and you haven't provided any ventilation. The water jet hits the blade at almost a 90 degree angle. It is recommended to make the wheel slightly wider than the channel so that air can flow away to the sides. The kink in the channel creates a wave that swirls the water as it flows into the wheel, this should be fixed.
    The water should flow into the wheel just before the upper apex at as shallow an angle as possible to avoid this impact effect.
    You can make the side rim a little wider than the effective diameter of the wheel, which acts as a side splash guard.
    You should keep the bearings well covered as they rust fairly quickly. Use a fat that does not combine with water, otherwise an emulsion will quickly form.
    Many greetings from the upper mill
    HUBI :)
    ruclips.net/video/J5GHMzIQGA0/видео.html

    • @mx96288
      @mx96288 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tag Hubi, hatte auch an dich gedacht beim Video schauen :)

  • @rgr3427
    @rgr3427 7 месяцев назад +66

    WOW ! These people truly went all in for their water wheel. As others have said; absolutely love your content PLUS watching you go from building your first power system and house to THIS, outstanding sir. What a beautiful life you have created. Be Safe Out there

  • @johnhampson7
    @johnhampson7 7 месяцев назад +15

    Absolutely marvellous piece of work there, and there was me thinking there aren't any engineers out there anymore. I don't think there's anything more thrilling than to watch a waterwheel come to life and supply all that much needed power. Congratulations that man.

    • @daveturnbull7221
      @daveturnbull7221 7 месяцев назад +1

      I could honestly spend an entire day just watching that wheel

  • @user-zc5qy2sr1c
    @user-zc5qy2sr1c 24 дня назад

    Very interesting process. I would have never guessed there was as much calculation and adjusting on such a project as this. I appreciate the idea of harnessing clean energy.

  • @davea1771
    @davea1771 7 месяцев назад +5

    Hard to believe the amount of power in such a small amount of flowing water. First rate job of capturing and harnessing what Nature provides. It will be interesting to see how well the tuning process goes.
    Water wheels like this one are what powered the Industrial Revolution in the 1800s using belts and pulleys to transfer the power to where it was needed. Your creation proves that good ideas are timeless and never get old.

    • @eyesuckle
      @eyesuckle 7 месяцев назад +3

      Interesting! I was very impressed with the thought, skill, and labour that clearly went into this project. Loved watching the video. But once the wheel started turning and the power was measured, my reaction was quite the opposite of yours: "That's it. . . ?" I thought, "All that effort and the result is about enough power to run a toaster oven?"
      I know this is just my own ignorance showing, but I thought it was going to power at least a single household!

    • @davea1771
      @davea1771 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@eyesuckle 1 kilowatt is enough power to lift 2,200 pounds 1 meter in the air every second. One hour of running that waterwheel provides enough power to lift a ton about 12,000 feet in the air. "That's it."

  • @MarkJordan1968
    @MarkJordan1968 7 месяцев назад +47

    Kris. What can I say. I love these engineering videos. Highlight of my RUclips week. Thanks so much for the balance between doing and the reasons why. It’s spot on

  • @sporranheid
    @sporranheid 7 месяцев назад +8

    Top notch. Not only doing all that work but then filming and editing on top of it! Hats off. 👍

  • @katherinekinnaird4408
    @katherinekinnaird4408 7 месяцев назад +3

    Kris thank you for the great explanations and video. Even a 65 years young Grandmother like me can understand and learn from you.Yet it's obvious that you are brilliant. Good fortune to you and your customers. God bless and stay safe. From Bakersfield California USA.c

  • @JF-fx2qv
    @JF-fx2qv 7 месяцев назад +1

    The need for a third video exist. Hope to see the tweaks done. Looks great! Thanks.

  • @69Buddha
    @69Buddha 7 месяцев назад +25

    That whole system is so intelligently designed, and I love how you put it together like it's an art piece -- because it IS that too!

  • @davidkettell5726
    @davidkettell5726 7 месяцев назад +3

    I have finally come up with the right word to describe your endevours .GENIUS ,take a step back Leonardo.

  • @helplmchoking
    @helplmchoking 7 месяцев назад +27

    Damn, that's pretty impressive for a fairly small wheel! I did the numbers, the average domestic rooftop solar array here in NZ is around 3kW, at a cost of ~£‎4,000 and obviously isn't super consistent. So this one wheel is running half of that on its own, with no need for consistent sun, no downtime at night and all the rest is amazing - and easily enough to run my house by itself

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ 6 месяцев назад +1

      3-4kw would cost about 28-35k installed in the US. >.>

  • @YellowSn0man
    @YellowSn0man 7 месяцев назад +12

    A couple vanes in the sluiceway will solve the spillage issue and get a more even flow of water entering the wheel. Vanes will increase the likelihood of clogging though. To help alleviate this, make the leading edge of the vane taper up like a ramp. The water flow will help push the debris up out of the way. Thank you for the fantastic video!

  • @jameswigginton5509
    @jameswigginton5509 7 месяцев назад +19

    That's what i'd call a good job Kris. A keeper plate is good practice to retain the driveshaft key,I've seen them work themselves out and it damages everything, a belt and braces approach and you'll not have to go back to it,do the same with the belt pulleys. Cracking job, want to watch the next installment now...

  • @Dave64track
    @Dave64track 7 месяцев назад +8

    Wow I've been looking forward to this what a lovely piece of engineering it sounded like a steam train you could feel the energy. It looks brilliant and works really well like you said it might need a bit of tweaking but for a first setup it's just fantastic. Free Energy who would't want one of these. Looking forward to the final setup and overall performance what ever it gives is green energy. Thanks for sharing this build and to the owners for letting you film the setup.👍

  • @kjbaran
    @kjbaran 7 месяцев назад

    Hey I’m Kris too! I’ve absolutely loved watching you guys put this wheel together, amazing job!

  • @frankiepitt9135
    @frankiepitt9135 6 месяцев назад +6

    I’ve been reading the comments on this video and I’m amazed just how many water wheel experts there are out there.

  • @Jerbod2
    @Jerbod2 7 месяцев назад +10

    This is bloody awesome Kris! One of my favourite projects at the moment.

  • @darwinsfish
    @darwinsfish 7 месяцев назад +42

    More to the dynamics of a waterwheel than you first think! Enthralled by the whole process and Kris’s unfaltering enthusiasm. Can’t wait for the next instalment.

    • @bekzodsabitov3699
      @bekzodsabitov3699 6 месяцев назад

      Hydroelectric power plants from 5-100 kW and more. efficiency-99%. ruclips.net/video/EdnCo9rOVao/видео.html

  • @user-ug2wk7db2g
    @user-ug2wk7db2g 2 месяца назад +1

    From experience you need a feed trough that goes completely over the wheel. You feed the wheels buckets courtesy of a trap door which you can adjust. This eliminates loss and splash and acts as the last fine tune.This also allows you to stop a wheel locally by closing the trap letting the water continue on.
    Brilliant job. Well done.

  • @winstonwong3326
    @winstonwong3326 7 месяцев назад +2

    I’m sure vertical vanes would smooth out the flow in the corners and rectangular nozzles pointed tangentially would calm the splashing and quiet the noise. Great start. 👏👏👏

  • @bobflores
    @bobflores 7 месяцев назад +9

    That is a thing of beauty. Looking forward to the final tweaks and testing to see final numbers. Thanks for the video.

  • @rosewright9451
    @rosewright9451 7 месяцев назад +23

    Has anyone told you that you are brilliant. I have been watching you since just after the start of the first layer of earth bags, you are very inventive. I hope your mum and dad are proud of you.

  • @andymccabe6712
    @andymccabe6712 7 месяцев назад

    Ha!....I just LOVE the way that, the second a film like this is uploaded HUNDREDS of 'water wheel experts'...whom nobody know existed(imagine that...!!!) suddenly 'out' themselves....
    .....and they ALL know how to do a better job then the person who actually DID the job.....!!!
    SO funny....and so, so SOO predictable....!!!!!
    It's what keeps me coming back for more.....keep it up, guys.....!!!!!

  • @fortytwo8388
    @fortytwo8388 7 месяцев назад +14

    Thats so cool and interesting to see the details of the waterwheel being installed and running. Waterwheels always fascinate me.

  • @chimpongo
    @chimpongo 7 месяцев назад +30

    Great episode, I think because the video editing was so good. I´m sure the gradual process of problem identification and resolution was a lot more stressful than you made it appear, but the consistent progress made this very satisfying (and exciting!) to watch. What a great accomplishment - like all your projects, well researched, planned and executed. Well done!

  • @1kreature
    @1kreature 7 месяцев назад +2

    Brilliant!
    Looking forward to the new pulleys!

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 7 месяцев назад

    The most efficient use of a water source for the cleanest electrical energy you can harness through human technology !
    Makes me want to live by a stream or brook for many reasons , besides it’s natural beauty . ❤️

  • @CollinsRealty
    @CollinsRealty 7 месяцев назад +6

    You’ve got to be very happy with the first run Kris. Well done!

  • @BreakingBarriers2DIY
    @BreakingBarriers2DIY 7 месяцев назад +3

    Having watched all the other builds and lumber work and then watching the effort needed to fit the gearbox…if Chris is struggling with that…it is heavy. Depleted uranium lol.
    This build is so exciting!
    Never a dull moment!

  • @Alecks1990
    @Alecks1990 5 месяцев назад

    One of my biggest dreams is, to own land, where i can use a river, just like that.
    Get some free energy, live more and more off grid.
    Astonishingly beautiful, natural, peaceful and useful aswell.
    Love it.

  • @markblix6880
    @markblix6880 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a retired bricklayer, I approve of this project.

  • @daverichardson5861
    @daverichardson5861 7 месяцев назад +8

    Thats incredible Kris, to see it been made and then put into situ and working, well done you! Super vlog and work undertaken. Its in a beautiful setting too. Can’t wait to see final check out. You were beaming ear to ear and so you should. Stay well.

  • @5gadget5
    @5gadget5 7 месяцев назад +13

    What a great install Chris, fantastic work. Like all things there will be a bit of trial & error to get it all working how it should, nothing that a bit of head scratching won't sort out.

  • @gscott1604
    @gscott1604 7 месяцев назад +1

    Top class video, this is why i don't watching conventional TV anymore.

  • @canadiannaturalist6369
    @canadiannaturalist6369 20 дней назад

    I hugely admire your workmanship. The concept popped into my mind when I was watching your "flow slow-mo" and I'm absolutely sure that if you get the water input closer to a laminar flow, you'd have way more efficiency. turbulence=efficiency loss.

  • @jimvincent6408
    @jimvincent6408 7 месяцев назад +11

    I enjoy your content with the hydro generation and also the barn build! Keep up the excellent content!👍👍

  • @mvanvelsen
    @mvanvelsen 7 месяцев назад +9

    Impressive work you have done - these water videos are my favorite - looking forward to part 3.

  • @poowg2657
    @poowg2657 7 месяцев назад

    Here in America there would be a 10 year multi million dollar environmental study followed by another 10 years of court battles after which time the whole project would be too expensive and would then be cancelled. I got to tour the working grist mill in Pickwick Minnesota and the whole building shook and rattled as the machinery ran. Excellent video, glad I stumbled on to it.

  • @Classiccarbscouk
    @Classiccarbscouk 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thoroughly enjoyed that, from start to finish!

  • @avyitis3425
    @avyitis3425 7 месяцев назад +7

    I'm so glad you got it up and running already cause I couldn't wait to see it in action, after your last video! Well thought through, as always, you're a true inspiration. Thank you also for contributing to the independence of so many others, through your videos and work.

  • @markalton2809
    @markalton2809 7 месяцев назад +12

    I had the thought that if the bucket angles were a few degrees more "open", you'd lose water a little earlier at the bottom, but get better bucket filling, therefore more torque where it counts.
    Really enjoying your videos, Kris. Your ingenuity is most impressive.

    • @szolanek
      @szolanek 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I think if this thing would be more popular, they would come up with something without buckets. Similar to the "take in" he has at home. The goal is to catch as many water we can and drop it on the bottom. I don't think the buckets were the best solution.

    • @Finnspin_unicycles
      @Finnspin_unicycles 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@szolanek If you want the most efficient solution for hydropower, you don't build an overshot waterwheel. But waterwheels are great to look at, fairly simple to run and this place looks like it has been setup for one in the past.

    • @szolanek
      @szolanek 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Finnspin_unicycles Sure, as long you have distances, drops and earplugs :)
      // This one is nice, and nobody can complain. Fish might swims back for one more round //
      Btw, do you know about bottom powering, is it inferior to this?

    • @AkkerKid
      @AkkerKid 7 месяцев назад

      @@szolanek Among water wheels, undershot is the lowest efficiency. A type of wheel called "pitch back" is most efficient since it combines the positive aspects of each other type.

    • @szolanek
      @szolanek 7 месяцев назад

      @@AkkerKid Thanks!

  • @MagnaMater2
    @MagnaMater2 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much for showing this. We have an old mill-rivulet in our neighbourhood, and there is an old artificial waterfall right under the bridge at the corner to my property. If I get the neighbours fixed on this idea, we might be able to install and power roadlamps. But we need some winter-version when the top five centimeters of the rivulet might get frozen.
    I have to check on local legislation, but it seems to me, that private electricity-mills were actively stopped by our regional government when they built the larger river-dams in the 1950's and centralized electricity-production. Only a stubborn family in the next village downriver clinged to their old mill, all the others were demolished.

  • @matthewmcclay
    @matthewmcclay 7 месяцев назад

    I like the mix between modern design, tools and materials and old techniques.

  • @justlooking4202
    @justlooking4202 7 месяцев назад +55

    If Kris went and became a fully qualified Electrician, with the skills he has in building water wheels and hydro turbines etc he'd be able to provide a full service with this stuff. Definitely something worth thinking about.

    • @theDLebon
      @theDLebon 7 месяцев назад +6

      Yes. De facto, the most qualified electrician is the one who adjusts the power. The other one will pose the cables.

    • @unhippy1
      @unhippy1 7 месяцев назад +4

      4 year apprenticeship to become a sparky

    • @om617yota8
      @om617yota8 7 месяцев назад +2

      I'm sure Kris is 100% qualified, in that he knows how to wire up a safe and effective system already, including attaching to mains. The piece of paper saying he knows all that, on the other hand....

    • @axelusul
      @axelusul 7 месяцев назад

      Best get a qualified guy in to make sure everything is up to spec and regs, also if things go wrong it is only Krises work that would need to be check on.

    • @om617yota8
      @om617yota8 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@axelusul Electricians are perfectly capable of goofing up too.

  • @AMG63
    @AMG63 7 месяцев назад +7

    Wow that wheel is a thing of beauty, I love the attention to detail on absolutely everything you do and it’s very inspiring..thank you for everything that you upload I really do appreciate it 👍

  • @UndigitalWorks
    @UndigitalWorks 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great job on the installation of the waterwheel! The attention to detail in the galvanizing and painting process is commendable.

  • @andrewkuebler4335
    @andrewkuebler4335 2 месяца назад +1

    The waterwheel is the easy part. Finding a property in a nice state where this would work is the hard part.

  • @TheHughzt
    @TheHughzt 7 месяцев назад +13

    It's obvious you're genuinely having fun with this project and you deserve it after all your hard work. The bredth of your knowledge and skills is truly staggering and makes your videos inspiring and entertaining. Well done mate!

  • @123turby
    @123turby 7 месяцев назад +8

    Again Chris, you have done a spectacular job. Not only does it produce power but it also looks fantastic. Great job son..⚡️

  • @JoshHenery
    @JoshHenery 7 месяцев назад

    Unreal work Kris! I'd love to see you have a wee chat with the owner and him talk about what he thinks of your work

  • @josephpadula2283
    @josephpadula2283 7 месяцев назад +2

    Brilliant belt adjustment using the gear box rather than extra idler !

  • @LukeCunningham
    @LukeCunningham 7 месяцев назад +6

    The really low dump height should be good for minimizing erosion. Can’t wait to see what you get with a bigger pulley so the alternator doesn’t have to brake the wheel anymore.

  • @om617yota7
    @om617yota7 7 месяцев назад +7

    I used to rebuild those conveyor gearboxes. The part you showed about turning down the shaft and machining the keyway took me back to those days. Looks like Dodge green bearings? You are 100% not joking when you say the gearbox is heavier than it looks, the entire case is cast iron and it's mostly full of steel gears. That's a big lump of cast iron to be lifting by hand, especially with uneven footing while standing in running water.

    • @LukeCunningham
      @LukeCunningham 7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s pretty crazy to see the difference in effort between him lifting it on the dry shop floor versus in a creek, much respect.

  • @AlecKeller
    @AlecKeller 7 месяцев назад

    LEONARDO DA VINCI'S MIND.... you are incredibly imaginative

  • @williambryce8527
    @williambryce8527 7 месяцев назад +2

    Outstanding Job, and awesome fabrication? Love any RE systems, and a old style wheel hydro system is wonderful to see!

  • @krispycool1
    @krispycool1 7 месяцев назад

    Kris I have a deep respect for your level of over-engineering!

  • @chazleighann
    @chazleighann 7 месяцев назад +4

    They did a great job preparing for you. I know they had to be so pleased. You're amazing !

  • @bonniebertrand1189
    @bonniebertrand1189 7 месяцев назад +4

    Absolutely fascinating Kris! What an amazing job done by all! Thank you for showing the process. You SHOULD be proud of the wheel you made, it is a work of art!!

  • @martinkavanagh196
    @martinkavanagh196 7 месяцев назад

    That is one excellent video showing a great design in a superb location. - Thank You for sharing Kris

  • @myself248
    @myself248 7 месяцев назад +28

    This is beautiful! Sounds like you could add some supervisory/telemetry wiring to that conduit, with a temperature sensor on the alternator, possibly a temperature sensor on the gearbox too -- they don't last forever, but they heat up before they fail. Recording those values during periodic maintenance checks, or better yet, logging the data continuously, could help with diagnosis in the future.

    • @liam3284
      @liam3284 6 месяцев назад +3

      good idea. A common failure for micro hydro.

    • @bekzodsabitov3699
      @bekzodsabitov3699 6 месяцев назад

      Hydroelectric power plants from 5-100 kW and more. efficiency-99%. ruclips.net/video/EdnCo9rOVao/видео.html

  • @SisterWomen
    @SisterWomen 7 месяцев назад +60

    I watched this 16 minutes after it posted this morning. It stayed on my mind and I ended up watching it several times, each time noticing the views. This video picked up around a thousand hits every hour today. I'm feeling so proud of you and what you've brought into the world.

    • @bekzodsabitov3699
      @bekzodsabitov3699 6 месяцев назад

      Hydroelectric power plants from 5-100 kW and more. efficiency-99%. ruclips.net/video/EdnCo9rOVao/видео.html

  • @old_seadog
    @old_seadog 7 месяцев назад +99

    Hi Kris - just a point to consider. If you want 1.5kW out of the alternator, setting the voltage to 100V means that you are essentially generating 15A. It is possible that this is too high for your alternator stator (without me knowing the nameplate rating of course) & the current is causing the windings to get hot, but unfortunately, this also increases the resistance in the windings & this makes the problem worse. The heating effects from the increased resistance & reactance of the windings can be reduced by decreasing the current & increasing the voltage without power loss & you might find your efficiency improving. Something else to consider is the conductors from the alternator. If the cross-sectional area is too small for the current being generated, this will create additional problems & also check the resistance & tightness of your electrical connections. Another point to consider is the flow of heat from the stator heat sinks on the casing. From a still image of the vid, there doesn't looks to be any air gaps in the casing, so if your cowling around the alternator is preventing the heat escaping &/or not allowing a reasonable air flow across the casing, it might be trapping the generated heat which could also have an effect.
    However, it looks fantastic & you should be justifiably proud of yourself - well done sir!

    • @greggv8
      @greggv8 7 месяцев назад +16

      Gearing up the alternator speed would make it worthwhile to make a fan to mount onto the alternator shaft. Make a disk of sheet metal then cut some radial flaps to bend. Even if it only moves a little air over the alternator it would keep hot air from stagnating under the cover. A hole in the top, covered by a plate spaced up a bit and larger than the hole, would let heated air out. Would want to put a temperature sensor on the alternator to test if the fan helps any.

    • @SaltGrains_Fready
      @SaltGrains_Fready 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@greggv8 that's what I thought of also. The air inside that large cover must me kept moving. In the dead of winter it will not be much of a need but on the warmest days of summer that will burn out with forced air over the unit. The only other ideal solution is an alternator with a water jacket that can take a small hose from the sluice and feed some water over the alternator and let it be water cooled. That's a different design concept.

    • @KEhydro
      @KEhydro 7 месяцев назад +11

      This is a run-of-river scheme and all r-o-r installations have changing water availability through the seasons; setting the inverter to work in 'constant voltage' mode was never going to allow the wheel to work in all seasons: when water is scarce, the alternator pulley may not turn sufficiently fast to generate the 100v he set, whilst when water is plentiful, as in the video, and as @old-seadog has said, the current is too high and risks damaging the alternator. Kris's plan, at the end of the video, is to increase the size of the drive pulley in order to get a higher rpm at the alternator (and thus higher voltage) whilst achieving the slow rpm he wants at the wheel. This would provide the combination of higher voltage / lower current which will see the alternator not getting overheated, but it risks the open circuit voltage, - the highest voltage which could ever be produced when the alternator is not under load, - being too high. Grid tied inverters are rated to receive a maximum dc incoming voltage of around 600 v; if changing the ratio of the pulleys makes the open circuit voltage encroach on the maximum permitted for his inverter, then some form of voltage capping will be needed to cover those times when the inverter is going through its self-check before connecting to the grid, and for when there is a grid outage. There are always 'trade-offs' to be made, - a trade-off being "a situational decision that involves diminishing or losing one quality, quantity, or property in return for gains in other aspects".

    • @old_seadog
      @old_seadog 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@KEhydro An excellent explanation sir, I love generator theory (& transmission, transformers, protection, switchgear, etc & yes, I *am* _that_ dull!).

    • @greggv8
      @greggv8 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@KEhydro It needs a two speed drive between the wheel and the alternator. Fix two pulleys on the wheel shaft then have the pulleys on the alternator shaft run on bearings. Fit a clutch between the alternator pulleys to engage one or the other or be in neutral. When one alternator pulley is engaged, the other one spins independently from the shaft.
      The extra tricky bit would be automating the shifting to accommodate two ranges of higher and lower flow, and shifting to neutral when there's not enough flow. Also useful would be controlling bypass flow for when there's too much water to run through the water wheel.

  • @ratgreen
    @ratgreen 7 месяцев назад

    This is so well made, its so impressive how well its all gone together. I look forward to you getting it dialed.
    My only comment is add a 'do not disconnect whilst wheel is spinning' or 'Isolate AC side of inverter before this isolator' warning sticker, to the DC isolator (unless that iso is specifically made for disconnecting fairly HV DC, it'll arc like crazy under load.)
    Easy fix for the kink in the trough is bend some sheet stainless steel into a nice arc and screw it to the inside of the corner of the trough to smooth the flow of water a bit.

  • @Can_non69
    @Can_non69 7 месяцев назад

    I'm such a geek for these things. I'll never use anything like this but my brain 🧠 just loves to see and absorb the magnificence of creative, talented and capable people.
    Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽.

  • @twigandroot
    @twigandroot 7 месяцев назад +11

    The slow-mo of the buckets filling was so cool to watch! great work. this is a fascinating project

  • @kenbone4535
    @kenbone4535 7 месяцев назад +6

    Wow Kris, what an amazing project, one of your best yet.
    Don't knock yourself, you are an expert in a job only some of us would dream of.
    Your skills are very appreciated.

  • @SquareOneForge
    @SquareOneForge 7 месяцев назад +8

    This is awesome. I am loving this build series. Well done mate!

  • @w.hamilton3327
    @w.hamilton3327 6 месяцев назад +4

    Is there anything you can't imagine or build? I think not. What an amazing and innovative mind you have Kris. Love all the videos. Been with you since the start of the round house. Keep em coming. Many blessings to you and yours. The barn is looking awesome!! Brilliant! Watching from Alberta, Canada

  • @agreensh
    @agreensh 7 месяцев назад +6

    I suggest adding a corner/radius inside the trough to improve the water flow (either from wood or steel). Will make a huge difference.

    • @loloaqici82qb4ipp
      @loloaqici82qb4ipp 7 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, to round off the bend and possibly higher than the existing sides to give the water a "smoother" ride.

  • @TomTurner704
    @TomTurner704 7 месяцев назад +15

    Great job! The chute is problematic. In air-handling systems the flow rate in ducts with sharp corners are improved using turning vanes, a series of curved rudders running across the corner. The discharge should be a steel fabrication adjustable for length and angle, and perhaps a little bit of narrowing.

  • @computeronzin
    @computeronzin 7 месяцев назад

    I love a piece of quality work and what a beautiful environment.
    Your water wheel will still be there when the house has collapsed and the stream's current has found another path hundreds of years from now.

  • @madhavda
    @madhavda 7 месяцев назад +1

    Really nice work and I can't wait to see the follow up. For me, coming back to a big project after a bit of time has always added some clarity that helped the current project as well as future ventures.

  • @randymacsgarage
    @randymacsgarage 7 месяцев назад +3

    Man she sure is beautiful I can only imagine how well well you could tweek it if you where closer to home and had more time it would be running like a Swiss watch I reckon👍👍

  • @GeomancerHT
    @GeomancerHT 7 месяцев назад +3

    I would pay to work with you, that's how much I love your content, thank you!

  • @thornwarbler
    @thornwarbler 7 месяцев назад

    You're some bloke. You!! Wonderful stuff mate. I remember when you were building your first wind turbine in the alley at your old flat. You've come a long way since then.

  • @Ianhurley54
    @Ianhurley54 7 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic job Kris
    The wheel is absolutely stunning. A real work of art!

  • @peternewman9713
    @peternewman9713 7 месяцев назад +3

    You're an amazing man, Kris. Thanks for letting us see this!!!

  • @dan.vitale
    @dan.vitale 7 месяцев назад +5

    Your videos, your creativity and talent is a joy to watch Kris! Can't wait to see part 3 :)

  • @theslimeylimey
    @theslimeylimey 7 месяцев назад +1

    This video is right up my alley and you made a fantastic wheel. I think the buckets would benefit from a little more angle so there is a larger opening for the water to flow in without bouncing off the face of the next bucket. As others have suggested a shroud or rubber mat will certainly help a lot. I understand why you designed it this way and it makes perfect sense on paper to maximize energy extracted from each bucket but the flipside to that is if you can't get the water in and out of the buckets quick enough you are leaving energy on the table because the volume of water coming in from the trough will be greater than the maximum volume throughput of the wheel. Slow the wheel down to fill the buckets completely for maximum energy and excess water energy will be wasted, speed the wheel up to use more of the water and there isn't enough time to fill the buckets. Somewhere there is a sweet spot that I'm sure you will find with some tweaking. Can't wait for the next update!

  • @LikeSomeDude
    @LikeSomeDude 7 месяцев назад

    I’m a creative and resourceful guy; a construction superintendent for a home building company that builds affordable housing for non profits. But mate, YOU are a mastermind, a genius! I’ve loved watching your whole adventure! Cheers!

  • @dantheman6698
    @dantheman6698 7 месяцев назад +8

    cool, almost there. pully sizes was always going to be one thing that needed playing with, id take a few different combinations with you so you can find the best one.
    will that alternator need any kind of cooling? too much heat would cook the bearings and make them fail early.
    hopefully the other guys fix the trough a bit better at the corner to stop it leaking and going over the top.
    eager to see the results :D

  • @earthangel8730
    @earthangel8730 7 месяцев назад +20

    Not being much of an engineer this video was surprisingly fascinating. The water wheel is a work of ingenuity and art, like everything you create. Well done Kris!

    • @bekzodsabitov3699
      @bekzodsabitov3699 6 месяцев назад

      Hydroelectric power plants from 5-100 kW and more. efficiency-99%. ruclips.net/video/EdnCo9rOVao/видео.html

  • @marloswedzinski6166
    @marloswedzinski6166 7 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful craftsmanship on the wheel and systems!
    Well done!!

  • @diancomo
    @diancomo 12 часов назад

    Hi, friend. Greetings from Colombia.
    I would like to add some points of view that can improve the system, and make the machinery and accessories last longer over time, which translates into lower maintenance costs and, therefore, less expense.
    1. Regarding the water intake bridge, the surface should be "lined" with a film of fiberglass and resin, taking into account that the corners should be rounded, for optimal displacement of the water film.
    2. As for the support of the blade machine, it should have insulation (preferably in neoprene), but rubber can also work. With the above, vibration due to the continuous movement of the machine is avoided, which would prevent fatigue of the material, the bearings and the concrete base itself.
    3. If necessary and for the future, a flywheel system should be provided to help maintain the tangential speed of the system, the transfer case gears and most importantly, that there are no sudden variations in voltage. that throws the motorization provided.
    A hug for you, for your great work and a thousand congratulations for it.

  • @wadebrewer7212
    @wadebrewer7212 7 месяцев назад +3

    Well done man! Love your work on projects like this! Thank you for sharing!

  • @z1teq
    @z1teq 7 месяцев назад +9

    Amazing build. Regarding the stainless bolts, it's actually good practice to use lube or anti seize on stainless bolts. Having worked in food grade stainless metal fabrication, lubing all stainless bolts was a must, for assembly aswell as for future disassembly, those stainless threads can seize up at any point in time.

  • @tuffshiny301
    @tuffshiny301 7 месяцев назад

    Great video. Clear instructions thoughtfully given. Great camerawork.
    Brilliant.
    I'll be revisiting this when I finally find that little bit of land within my budget. And with a stream.
    👏👏👏

  • @jeffwooton502
    @jeffwooton502 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Kris great job excellent fabrication. I know everyone wants to be an arm chair engineer but I only have one suggestion . The uprights on the trough could be substantially stronger with the addition of cross bracing width way and length ways.

  • @Singlephase
    @Singlephase 7 месяцев назад +3

    Definitely looks like the position the water exits the trough before it hits the wheel could come forward more and perhaps fall off at an angle towards the buckets a tiny bit to direct the flow. Looking forward to part #3

  • @blobstrom
    @blobstrom 7 месяцев назад

    Amazing Kris. I can watch this content all day (if my wife let me).. What you constructed is amazing.
    My only minor tweak would have been to ensure the cable exit from the alternator would have been underneath the electrical box, even though it does have the metal cover when finished. Water will always find its way into a top entrance hole..

  • @BrewsterMcBrewster
    @BrewsterMcBrewster 7 месяцев назад +3

    So cool. I was mesmerized for 47 minutes. Love the tweaking you're doing to get the most bang for the buck in terms of efficiency. Good Job, Sir!

  • @lukejay
    @lukejay 7 месяцев назад +35

    Kris, this is BRILLIANT! Yet another of your videos that I watch in awe.
    Just a quick note on the electrical box at the Generator end - with that copex entering at the top, you'll end up with water ingress. The IP68 box will end up trapping the water inside and as it's the first connection, it'll short the generator out and cause quite a bit of damage.
    I'd suggest bringing both the generator and the output cables in from the bottom, and ideally fitting an isolator switch as close to the wheel as possible.
    I hope this comes across as constructive criticism. I'd hate for such a small error to cause any damage.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @avantgarde619
      @avantgarde619 7 месяцев назад

      I would have used a rubber seal tight tubing from the box to the conduit instead of the galvanized MC cable.

    • @wardfiction5693
      @wardfiction5693 7 месяцев назад +1

      This was my thought.,... I probably would have wired a 3 core shielded cable to the alternator and had less conduate. or have gear and shaft system back to the room where the isolator switch was and had all the alternators and such in there..

    • @garyviveiros2557
      @garyviveiros2557 6 месяцев назад

      So-o-o, be sure to silicone-seal the connector to form a better seal against water, and mist incursion. Could use water tight connectors and outdoor flex cable that has a plastic flex jacket.