MacBook Air M1 vs MacBook Pro 2017 (FL Studio 20)
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2022
- Recently bought the MacBook Air M1 and wanted to compare it to my MacBook Pro 2017 for music production. I used FL studio 20.9 which is already compatible with the M1 chip, but I was running it in Rosetta 2, so that more of my plugins will work in their current state. Using Rosetta 2 slows down the processor in the M1 a little bit but the MacBook Air M1 still produced way better results and using way less processing power than my MBP 2017 to run the same project. (Check out my other short videos comparing these computers)
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This was actually helpful, preciate it
Glad it was helpful. Im uploading a few more parts that I recorded at the same time but just never uploaded. Check them out.
@@trackfammusic2979how is the quality of the mic of mac m1 ??
This was very helpful. Apple silicon is nuts 🥜
the biggest gain for macbook air is the no fan. the m1 and m2 make it possible to get real studio-quality recordings without buying zoise reduction suites from izotope or waves. it's actually better because then you aren't degrading the source audio which in itself is a huge dif in studio recordings and home recordings. UAD APOLLO with MACBOOK AIR M2/M1 is a crazy combo. I picked u p the M2 solely for the no fan. Also note that my pc i'm upgrading from can only run one instance of ozone 10 at max buffer but on the M2 macbook air I can run 5 instances. my pc is 16 core 32 thread amd processor. no brainer to getting an air vs pc. No fan noise for me was the no brainer move.
Nice. Im actually on an M1 MacBook Pro now and I NEVER heard the fan in 3 months. However I’ve been having some weird latency with midi input and, other weird audio glitches, slow load times of certain FL studio projects. I think it has to do with that certain 3rd party plugins still are not 100% smooth with the m1 chip. If I didn’t HAVE to get a new computer for music production I would probably hold off for another few month until all this was 100% fixed.
@@trackfammusic2979 third party plugins run in rosetta so really no problem it's def not the chip. when I use protools everything is faster and smoother on my M2 than on my pc. All the plugins work too if I run protools in rosetta. As far as FL goes the software is native but the plugins are bridged so there shouldn't be any problems
@@trackfammusic2979 Usually if you have anything on your master bus it will cause delay issues. make sure if you're not in the mix phase yet to remove any intensive plugins. Make beat first then add the plugins on the mixer view. you can always add the very minimal plugins like built in limiter on fruity loops or the L1 by waves. They don't add noticeable latency. The issues for me are plugins like soothe or spiff or ozone or anything izotope really. They add like a 1/4 of a second delay many times. Also on my mixer I only keep an L1 waves limiter but if I'm hitting it I'll turn the whole mix down a tad. Sometimes if I have to use a plugin for creative purposes I'll add it demo it then consolidate the pattern and mute the original with the plugin. If I have to make changes I'll reactive the plugin and make the changes.
I've noticed that the plugins with the fancy guy with the crazy spectrometers and analysis features usually cause the unwanted glitches and delay. you have to increase your buffer setting to get them to work properly but you add latency when you do that so I tend to do my mix last after I make all the creative elements.
I use ozone 10 at the very end when I'm close to done with the beat to check but I deactivate whenever I have to play midi keyboard. There's a quick way to disable any plugins on the bottom of the mixer. Honestly @flstudio should do this automatically whenever you're recording period. Pro tools does it it's called low latency monitoring lol... Not sure why Fl hasn't done this yet.
this shouldnt matter if you have good sound isolation, right?
The pro speaker sounds awesome.
I agree.
Maybe I’m the dud but which was better. I heard you say it’s a big difference but was that good or bad is the Air better or worse?
Air performed better
I have this same MacBook Pro 15 late 2016. When I'm using Logic it goes so hot! How many cpu core has this Air M1? I need to change mine too. I'd like to get the new M3 Pro, but it's quite expensive for me.
Finance
On the MacBook Air how many gb of ram are you using?
Cool it so help me
Glad it helped 👍
When do you think it will become native? If you do anything with vocal/song mixing are there any plugins you aren’t able to use? I’m switching like my whole setup
I actually ended up returning my Air, but I may get a new one soon because I feel companies are starting to catch up with Apple now. If I do get one I’ll make some new videos. Some companies are quicker than others to update, and some of them are native for M1 already. Personally I think all major plug-in companies will have M1 versions before the end of the year.
what kind of set up are you changing from and to?
@@trackfammusic2979 just bought an asus g14 2021, I’m coming from a dell latitude with a second gen i7, 8gb ram and 256ssd to ryzen 9 with 16gb ram and 1tb so it’s definitely a big upgrade compared to what I had, im thinking apples chip down the line once I know for sure the plugins are cool but this laptop should do me good til then
@@reallnikka123 nice. Sounds like a good move until everybody caught up.
@@reallnikka123 my old system was amd 16 core fast memory ssd drives 32 threads etc... and it can only run one instance of ozone 10 at high buffer setting. I just baught the M2 macbook air and it can run 5 x ( ozone 10 ) instances at max settings no problems. #myMindBroke when I did the test. The only drawdown will be plugin compatibility some plugins might not work on silicon and will have to upgrade. I had to upgrade my waves plugins but everything else was fine.
M1/m2 looks ok so ? Cause kn the past i saw a lot of bug sound on m1 with fl studio, only the m1 pro was correctly working
Does MacBook Pro 2018 (A1990)(i7 16 GB 512 GB ) have that build flaw which blows the speakers that you mentioned in some comments??
Not enough people mentioning buffer length too I can run that thing at 32 and the lowest LOL I've never been able to imagine it possible. Upgraded from mb pro 2019. FL running in apple silicon mode.
So do you recommend Mac for PC for music production ? I currently have a 2020 MacBook Pro i9 2TB 32 RAM on Catalina and from time to time I have some CPU issues when I have too many plugins open. This is why I was thinking of switching back to PC for beats but using my Mac for engineering and recording vocals.. what do you think ?
@@analcavity3464 I’ll tell it to you like this brother. Nothing beats the MacBook Air 22 m1. I found on brand new on Fb marketplace and I simply traded an old iPad for it. The thing has no fans has and that is one of the best upsides besides it’s power. I’ve already posted all around trying to get peoples attention on this but the fans on those macs are loud and even idle…. When recording vocals.. the quieter the better. I have been so pleased with the fact that silicon allows for a completely silent environment. I like using theta waves and such for focusing when doing art as it helps you reach a calmer and more attuned mind and I also have a vocal booth so I’m used to meditating and those fans overpower your vocal recording / add that frequency of the fan to your conscious 24/7 while it’s open. It’s just something really nice about it being gone. Your recordings will thank you too when you begin stacking vocals. Aside with that rant. Yeah bro. I’m an editor too for videos so editing music and videos are excellent for that MacBook Air. Another.. here this. UAD preamps / interfaces “real-time” is essentially these new silicon chips now. I don’t care what people complain about that online cause you can hear how close it is. I have a twin x interface too. I’m rocking 8gb of ram it’s wild I keep my drive clean as I’m working never get too loaded and I prefer using external drives for processing media files in general but that is from what I learned from the industry in processing good luck bro. I have a tower pc for gaming but I simply oc it with a old ryzen 5 2600 and a 6600 I got like 330 fps on splitgate so clearly macs aren’t for gaming but you can rock fun games on cheap builds too.
Change that name and photo bro you ain’t wanna attract that as a persona trust cousin dude brother human. Dna is 90% receptive to sound and light.
@@ssserotonin1373ssd storage on your MacBook Air? thinking of getting one with 256gb but I’m afraid I’ll run out of space
? Ram storage
So you could recommend the M1 for using FL Studio? I'm making my tracks on a windows machine / Lenovo and the shitty CPU perfomance is annoying as hell. Literally peaking to 100% while loading two instances of Serum. I'm planning to switch from windows to apple because of the better performance and the durability of apple computers. I'm sick of windows tbh.
Yeah i think so. unless your sessions are really big and CPU heavy. For beat making its fine. If you do huge vocals sessions you may want to put reverb, delay etc on buses (which you should do anyway).
What laptop / MacBook would you recommend I’m just starting off and have been looking at the m1 air 13
If I had to recommend something i would say the MacBook Pro base model. The m1 is great, but has a very small screen and you would have to use dongles for extra usb porta and HDMI if you want to connect to a bigger screen.
What are the specs?
What laptops would you recommend for people who just starting up and don’t wanna spend a lot?
Spending the absolute least, Facebook marketplace.
Spending slightly more for something decent, Swappa.
It’s all used electronics, research what’s available and get something that is a little above what you think you need.
does the 2019 run hot on fl studio too? like where it just start screeching and freezing and stuff?
Do you mean Air or MacBook Pro? Sometimes you have to increase the audio buffer size in FL.
@@trackfammusic2979 pro
@@2famous- you should be good
Im thinking about getting the mbp 2015, do you think thats good? I dont have that much of a budget so.
Wouldnt a gaming pc work better
The 2015 model was an amazing computer when it came out. It was the last MacBook Pro without the touch strip models which were complete trash in my opinion. the 2015 should still be good if you’re not planning on using all the newest versions of software becuase there may be some comparability issues since it’s almost 9 years old now.
What’s the best MacBook for making music, vocals, and beats
I’m not sure there is a “best” Mac for music It depends on your budget and needs. If budget is not an issue I would go for the 15 mbp m2. But then it all depends on how big you want the ssd to be. Personally I have 2Tb On my MacBook, but I recommend 1TB unless you’re just doing ir for fun and don’t have alot of sound banks etc.
What do you think would be better; a macbook pro m1 base model or a macbook pro 2019 with an i7, 16GB ram, and 512GB storage?
The only think that can beat your M1 is any 13th gen intel 7/9 sometimes 5 OR an M2.
Have fun
Yeah. Go with the M1
8gb that enough for render or reading or something?
Мне вполне хватает и редактировать видео davinchi 4к, fl studio, Logic Pro x, MacBook Pro m1 8/512 огонь 🔥
I‘m sorry i didnt get which one is better and why. I want to get a macbook for fl and maybe a lil bit of gaming. Should i get the m1 air or the older 2017 or 2018 MBP? I just want to spent round about 800 bucks
The performance in fl studio is better on the m1. But take into considerations smaller screen less ports etc. but if you don’t mind that I would say go with that.
I can never recommend the 2017 for creative work. It has a build flaw where the speakers can blow when using 3rd party programs like FL studio and adobe.
It’s possible that some of the 2108 also have this problem.
This happened to me with my 15in 2017 MacBook Pro do you have any solution the right one does not give any sound while the left on it muffles@@trackfammusic2979
What’s the buffer setting on that Macbook air?
I don’t have the Air anymore, but I think it was on whatever is default setting
i have a question. how do i type tempo in fl on macbook???
Type or tap? To type it in right click on the BPM and choose “type in value”.
To tap in the tempo you can right click on the non and choose tap, or there is a button on the top bar of FL with something that looks like a kick drum pedal. Click that en then click on the tempo with your mouse.
Is that 13 inch?
fl studio mobile??
is that mac pro the a1707? i was thinking about buying that model, do you think it can handle fl? (it’s like i7 7th gen 16 gb ram)
Read my responses to the other commments. I would NOT recommend that computer for FL Studio unless you don’t mind blowing the speakers on the laptop or even your studio monitors.
Which one is good air or pro
It depends what you’re gonna use it for, but I would go with the pro if you can afford it.
Is this 16GB or 32GB which yr is this MacBook Pro Air M1?
Its a 16 GB. Bought in Jan 2022.
Having a hard choice between getting the 2020 macbook air or the 2017 macbook pro, which is better?
Bro. If you are planning to use your computer for music or design / video editing, STAY AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN FROM THE MBP 2017. it’s one of the worst “lemons” Apple has ever released. Especially the fact that the speakers are known to blow when using certain music and video editing softwares. Other than that it’s very capable but i would avoid it if I could. I’ve repaired mine for the speaker problem 9 times!!
macbook pro 2017 ( i7 ram16 ) can run on logic pro ??
For sure, but stay away from the 2017 if you can. Many of them had problems with the speakers breaking all the time when using certain 3rd party software. FL Studio and I think some adobe programs for example.
@@trackfammusic2979 the laptop speakers breaking ? I got a 2017 MacBook I wanna start using fl for beats should I stick with it or sell it and get sun new or pc or sun
Im thinkin bout gettin a mac pro 2019 is it worth it bro
Obviously
I would definitely say so. Of course the never the computer the longer it will last, but the 2019 will be good for a several years
Can I use fl studio cracked on my macbook air m1?
😹
I dont See why that wouldn’t work as long as you have a new version of fl.
Is the air m1 enough for making beats ?
Yeah I would definitely say so. Unless your using an insane amount of tracks and effects in your beats. Try to go for 16GB if you can afford it, but 8GB should be ok for just beats too.
@@trackfammusic2979 yeah ? Like, how many tracks can it handle ? I know it also depends on which vst you're using but how many in average ?
@@realjerrymerry as a owner of m1 and m1 pro at the same time. M1 air is MORE THAN ENOUGH for beats.
@@goobabooba1665 thinking of getting that macbook air m1 chip but it has the 8 gigs of ram, you think it’s powerful enough for beats, recording, mixing, and mastering?
@@realjerrymerry i would suggest 16gb i've been making beats since I was 13 and i've never maxed out the 16gb memory on any of my tracks. 8 is too little imo you can max that out pretty easy
I‘ll give you 400 for your old macbookbro 😆🤝
Haha! the Apple store will give me about $500 for trade in 😂
@@trackfammusic2979 that’s a rip off. people on ebay are willing to pay $750 for it.
@@mohammedb4ig Exactly! I hate Apple with a passion, but Im too deep in the Apple swamp (or eco system as they like to call it) I checked like 6 months ago, and back then it seemed like I could get around over $1000 on ebay..
I’m just starting my home studio what year MacBook do you recommend? Or can I use any?
If you want a laptop I'd say the newest MacBook Pro you can afford. I recently bought a MBP 14 inch 2021, and Im super happy except some minor things. Im actually gonna make some short reviews on it soon, mainly for music production so stay posted to the channel if youre interested in that. If you can get a cheap 2015 model in good condition that is really good, but its starting to get old. MBP 2016-2018 complete trash, but starting 2020, they came out with much better quality laptops in 14 and 16 inch models.
I can tell you hate your Mac Pro🤣
Haha. Its actually great except the speakers breaking every other months so I have to bring it in to Apple to repair it every single time instead of just replacing it with a different model that doesn’t have the same build flaw
what version of fl is this
I’m running the latest update. I believe it’s 20.9.
Did you install it from appstore ?
Install what from Apple Store?
@@trackfammusic2979 the fl studio
So which one was better?
It depends on what you want or need. the processing power was better on the Air. But the MacBook Pro obviously have the bigger screen, better speakers, more ports etc.
sound Q on pro though 🌈
What do you mean?
@@trackfammusic2979 macbook pro model 💻
Is this a macbook air base model with 8GB of Ram? Thinking of grabbing one even though the base model isn’t Pro Tools compatible.
get 16. it will save for the long run. + this it will use dynamic memory less, which means the hard drive will last longer. and you can just replace the hard drive on these machines
It was actually the 16gb version.
You had me until you said you loaded flex… Im sorry but that is hard to compare to running something like omnisphere 😂
😂 yeah… I don’t think it’s the type of machine you would, or should buy as your main computer if you spend $599 on one plugin.. so I loaded mainly stock plugins. But sure, you can run a couple of omnispheres with no problem.
@@trackfammusic2979 bet fam I was just messing with ya lol
Haha no problem.
What u think about 2015 MacBook Pro with 512SSD HD and 16gb Ram for FL20, waves, Omnisphere 2, and Arcade. All of the programs will be mirrored from my hard drive to the new computer HD. The price is $400
If it’s in good “working condition”, I would go for it. The 2015 was a great computer, The only downside is that it that it’s getting a little old now. But for $400 I would definitely say YES.
I’m just starting off I’m seeing alot of the MacBook Pro 2017 is that one good and also what would you recommend I’m making music on fl and bandlab I just want to buy what I need the first time instead of keep upgrading
Stay away from the MBP 2017, if you’re using FL studio (and Adobe products for design). There is a build flaw on many of them that makes Some of these 3rd party programs crack the speakers on the 2017. Happened several times for me before Apple eventually replaced it (instead of repairing and putting in the same flawed parts) for me but it was an insane process that took and INSANE amount of arguing and sending emails back and forth.
Air m1 really worth it
Depends on your needs. If you work on really big projects with tons of tracks plugins I wouldn’t get it. But perfect on the go for making beats etc. I’d say it’s a perfect complement if you have another computer. Personally I wouldn’t want it as my only computer.
how about air m2?
Is the 2017 still worth buying in 2022 tho because my budget is short
I wouldn’t recommend it, although specs wise it can definitely handle it. do your research on the exact model you are planning to get before buying. (SEE MY RESPONCE TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION BEFORE BUYING!!!)
If purchasing a mac for music production, only worth considering m1 chips.
I just bought a 2017 MacBook Pro from eBay it's the 15" in. for $600 compared to $2000
What Ram is your MacBook Air 8gb or 16gb ?
Sorry for the late response. It’s 16GB
그럼 음악작업 하려면
m2 8기가램 256기가면 가능할까요
Yeh , that’s more than enough for sure
@@aaronkim6896 thank u ;)
Hey bro I’m looking to buy a MacBook Pro my budget is $1100 what would you recommend?
M1 air
@@windnoob Do you think it will be good for music, im not no producer but to record music without delay
@@4evawayne471 ofcourse man. They are great. Just bought m1 The touch bar is also cancer
Please tell me if mac book 2014 is a good option for music production
Depends on if you you want to you the latest software and plugins. There will most likely be compatibility issues. And as far as processing power you may have a problem with that pretty soon, since it’s a 8 year old computer. But if you use old stuff and don’t update to newer OS you should be OK.
Bro go for M1 or M2
Is this the 8GB version?
Yes. 16GB in Both. Check out my other short videos comparing these computers
buffer size?
I dont remember, but pretty low.