Genuinely, I don't care about whether its mid or not, what I do care about is that the new support is designed immaculately; they actually let the deck go into its intended win condition (Ice Barriers actually being a barrier to your opponent's plays) while threatening with bosses like Trish at ANY point. That's just good card design.
yeah and the newer floodgates are just enough to be ok while not being frustrating, some older cards are still frustrating but imo a optimal list shouldn't main deck them, only use them in the side for some match ups, so it's not a huge problem
Been pumped for friday,, have had this deck *on ice* for months waiting for battles of legend,, now, it’s finally time to extinguish some fire king snake eye :)
I think my favorite thing about Ice Barriers is that they're the unholy amalgamation. A perfect marriage of everything Stun Andies hate about combo decks, and everything Combo Carls hate about stun. You wombo combo for sometimes quite a long while... to get your walking floodgates to drop on the board during your opponent's turn, then freeze them out of the game unless they have the very specific out to what you're doing. ...then if they DO out your engine... you float into a treated-as-synchro-summoned Trish and banish 3.
Reminds me of one of my all time favorite decks Virtual World. Can combo for 10 minutes to end on shenshen + caliga. It can be balls to the wall synchro climbing or it can just pass with Shenshen + skill drain. Don’t even get me started on calamities .
@@nguyentandung42 what they need is a field spell that counts as a gate that places a gate from deck, gy, or banishment face up on your field. Oh and it’s actually been a very dominant rogue deck in Europe and I believe some south/Central American countries this format. It Won Spain nats.
@nbassasin8092 same w melodious divas...they were ass by themselves but now they have tutors and searchable combo pieces. Warlock and defender are crazy good but only if you can get to them via combo
Imagine the icehitting the window noise playing though the ENTIRE video softly in the backgounds. Probably at some volume you wouldnt really notice unless you had headphones on.
one of my favourite archetypes ever not because i think its good not because i think its bad so i wanna be different but just because i love theri artwork and they arepaired with my actual favourite archetype, Dragunities
@@mateusrp1994 yeah, the only sad part is they never gave us some overlspping support for them and their lores, as they did with some newer lores unless you count ice dragons prison as overlapping support lol
@@bonzey9895 Duel Terminal was when I was old enough to really be into the game (I watched anime since I was 3 and had cards but duel terminal was around my 4th-5th grade) so most decsk from that era will always have a soft spot in my heart even genex
I always and I mean always say mbts opening when he does videos. And when he did not say I'm mbt and this is 10 minute testing. I started having a mental break down
Ice Barrier now can easily summon their synchro boss monsters and maintain their niche of being a floodgate-esque deck with their main deck monsters. Against certain decks, they are powerful, but against others, it can struggle. The almighty D-Shifter and Kashtira cards would make this much weaker in practice, but against most other decks, it will fair pretty well.
"Whoo, nice to see Ice winning during Fire format." I hope they make Atlantean support, because the Animation Chronicles video gives me enough hope for that. We even got some Water cards, hm? Hm?
Reminds me when i built ice barrier in one of the synchro events in master duel. Had revealer and hexa out and the true draco player couldn't do anything
Honestly its just cool to me thay ice barriers are in any way playable now. I had fun with a memey wetlands deck bsck in the day but knew that they were never a good archetype. But they did have some of the best aetwork in the game imo which is why i loved them.
It’s still hard to believe that Ice Barrier is not only good now (relatively speaking), but it’s actually an interesting deck. Normally I really don’t like floodgates, but the Ice Barriers are just strong enough to make it challenging for the opponent to play without being oppressive. The board it puts up is very beatable, but if they mismanage their cards they can end up with very little gas in the tank. It’s really cool to see.
Any reason why we aren't playing Graydle Dragon? An offensive alternative to Crocodragon that is better at breaking boards going second and Mirror Master makes it by itself
Graydle is best used as a quick synchro target on the opponents turn, which the deck is not very good at, though I do think in this list there’s room for it as a Side card.
My question is why are water decks just floodgate turbo? Umi stun, Icejade, Ice Barrier. It's like that's just "the thing" konami thinks primary water decks should be.
Same reason blue decks in magic are almost all counterspell stun/control. When you make one attribute have cards of a specific play style you'll end up making more of that attribute with that play style so set 1 can work with set 2. Also earth and water both are "passive" elements, water reacts and fills whatever container you keep it in, and earth remains motionless in spite of what you do to it
You must be a new player that started recently. Back then we had a strong water deck called Mermail Atlanteons which were definitely NOT a stun or floodgate deck 😂
I’m not sure how optimal it is, but I’ve been messing around with an Atlantean Ice Barrier list I found on an OCG forum a few months back and the combos are pretty crazy (even though everyone in the comments was just laughing at the guy). Instead of using revealer as your starter you play Deep Sea Diva (summoning Neptabyss). The lines change based on what extenders you have but the basic idea is that you dump mirror master with Spright Sprind and then do the full ice barrier combo after having resolved Minstrel and Moulinglacia.
To hammer the fact that ice barriers sucked, I should point that he played only 3 ice barriers from the original wave of support, which are general and warlock and medallion. So they didnt make ice barrier good, they made it from the ground up
Trishula. Medium in side. Also how many old decks that get playable after legacy support still play several OG cards without being explicitly forced to?
Yeah look at dragunity, only Dux and Phalanx are used between the OG's have you ever heard of Dragunity Primus Pilus, Angus or Militum? Nope. But the upcoming waves of support kept the spirit of their playability as a deck, and that's the point.
You can play Spellbreaker for 1st turn So opponent can't use spell while she is on field. And no need to wait till warlock and 1 other ice barrier on field. Spellbreaker only need discard 1 ice barrier and revealer in gy can banished to become alternative cost.
I’m always shocked when I see any reference to deck check in the wild because I personally view the show as a tax write off and assumed all the views were bots
I thinks it's very funny that this marks the second water tribe from duel terminal lore that got a recent wave of support that was playable in spright. Maybe in a couple years we'll get Nekroz of Gigantic
I still want to make ice barriers. Not new ice barriers, not even structure deck ice barriers. I legitimately mean the original really shitty ice barriers.
The originals are very playable I have seen people using heavily Ice Barrier Spellbreaker, Prior, Gantala, Medium, Dai Sojo and even Strategist, Guards and Shock Troops.
ICE BARRIERS BAYBEE! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A RELEASE A DECADE IN THE MAKING
If you already sent mirror magic master to the grave, you should use Hexa to dump the level 3 anti-spell. It gets the brick out of your deck to revive with Georgius
ice barrier have lot of good card. the only problem is that until the recent support, there virtually no card that actually tie them together as a deck. led to member of the archetype used individually in other deck instead. the other thing is that many player using them wrong way. when using ice barrier, player supposed to fill the board with em, limiting their gameplay and gradually depleting opponent resources and only synchro to push for game. common mistake player do is that they synchro summon too early, resulting in numerous removal of ice barrier floodgating eff
I'm confused what the duelist in the 2nd duel was doing? Could've either banished or attacked over the level 4 Ice Barrier with Fenrir but just leaves it there unless they were under some attack and effect activation restriction then they messed up. Tried playing this with a bit of a ghoti core with Arionpos, keef and shif and some fish extenders for some higher value plays with better followup depending on some hands you can go Arionpos instead of Coral to search keef and three draws if you open the princess alongside speaker, freezing chains, medallion or george, keef itself is an excellent disruptor and advantage generator since Arionpos doesn't care about being synchro summoned to get its search effect, the bricks it introduces are a bit of a pain and accommodating fish does eat into your non-engine quite a bit but it does give the deck options into shifter.
I don't mind the amount of effects of the Ice Barriers, it's my favorite deck I already know all the effects of the ones that exist. I'll need to add the new ones.
Genuinely, I don't care about whether its mid or not, what I do care about is that the new support is designed immaculately; they actually let the deck go into its intended win condition (Ice Barriers actually being a barrier to your opponent's plays) while threatening with bosses like Trish at ANY point. That's just good card design.
yeah and the newer floodgates are just enough to be ok while not being frustrating, some older cards are still frustrating but imo a optimal list shouldn't main deck them, only use them in the side for some match ups, so it's not a huge problem
Been pumped for friday,, have had this deck *on ice* for months waiting for battles of legend,, now, it’s finally time to extinguish some fire king snake eye :)
I think my favorite thing about Ice Barriers is that they're the unholy amalgamation. A perfect marriage of everything Stun Andies hate about combo decks, and everything Combo Carls hate about stun.
You wombo combo for sometimes quite a long while... to get your walking floodgates to drop on the board during your opponent's turn, then freeze them out of the game unless they have the very specific out to what you're doing.
...then if they DO out your engine... you float into a treated-as-synchro-summoned Trish and banish 3.
Reminds me of one of my all time favorite decks Virtual World. Can combo for 10 minutes to end on shenshen + caliga. It can be balls to the wall synchro climbing or it can just pass with Shenshen + skill drain. Don’t even get me started on calamities .
So it's the same kind of deck as HERO
@@PhuckedUpPhilosophy And don't forget the very fun dragon stun... oh wait you did mentioned it. Sometimes I forget it has an actual name.
@@PhuckedUpPhilosophyman I miss VW, I swear if they printed a new monster worth making it would actually pop off.
@@nguyentandung42 what they need is a field spell that counts as a gate that places a gate from deck, gy, or banishment face up on your field.
Oh and it’s actually been a very dominant rogue deck in Europe and I believe some south/Central American countries this format. It Won Spain nats.
Watching my opponent try to activate certain cards or attack without reading ice barrier floodgates is peak entertainment 😂
after 15 years, they are finally actually coming up
who wouldve thunk it
I love when that happens. Fellow ice barrier player here lol
Yu-Gi-Oh players are never beating the allegations
@nbassasin8092 same w melodious divas...they were ass by themselves but now they have tutors and searchable combo pieces. Warlock and defender are crazy good but only if you can get to them via combo
People attacking with a Power Bonded Cyber Twin into my def position Sphreeze: bro why'd i take damage after hitting a def monster???
Legend says he’s still throwing ice cubes to THIS day!!
TBF he also got a really weird decklist.
Agreed 🤷🏾♂️ why we aren’t going double Lancea
Legend says he threw out the whole deck after.
Imagine the icehitting the window noise playing though the ENTIRE video softly in the backgounds. Probably at some volume you wouldnt really notice unless you had headphones on.
That's the extra mile of effort!
one of my favourite archetypes ever
not because i think its good
not because i think its bad so i wanna be different
but just because i love theri artwork and they arepaired with my actual favourite archetype, Dragunities
Same, I always thought their lore and artwork was cool (heh), so I always held a soft spot for these cards.
Sam dude. i have quite a bit of a soft spot for Duel Terminal archetypes/ Especially Ice Barriers and (also my favorite deck) Dragunity
@@mateusrp1994 yeah, the only sad part is they never gave us some overlspping support for them and their lores, as they did with some newer lores
unless you count ice dragons prison as overlapping support lol
@@bonzey9895 Duel Terminal was when I was old enough to really be into the game (I watched anime since I was 3 and had cards but duel terminal was around my 4th-5th grade) so most decsk from that era will always have a soft spot in my heart
even genex
You've heard of Duel terminal, right?
I always and I mean always say mbts opening when he does videos. And when he did not say I'm mbt and this is 10 minute testing. I started having a mental break down
Ice Barrier now can easily summon their synchro boss monsters and maintain their niche of being a floodgate-esque deck with their main deck monsters. Against certain decks, they are powerful, but against others, it can struggle. The almighty D-Shifter and Kashtira cards would make this much weaker in practice, but against most other decks, it will fair pretty well.
Great angle on that skit MBT, it's perfect for the energy being given
You forgot to add Royal Knight of the Ice Barrier
8:28 "this is why we don't play Branded anymore" against the Spright deck....
He ain't wrong though
Branded is very good though
crazy how elf alone gone is enough to make it irrelevent
@@OsirusHandle We had Spright with Ronin and Elf in MD and it was a nightmare. 7-8 interruption boards with searchable Maxx C.
@@CocTheElf true i forgot ronin is gone. elf summon toad was nutty
Fun thing to note Georgius also locks your opponents graveyard effects while he is on the field with another ice barrier
The year is 2039, we play Yugioh with actual holograms and MBT is still throwing Ice Cubes out of his window.
"Whoo, nice to see Ice winning during Fire format."
I hope they make Atlantean support, because the Animation Chronicles video gives me enough hope for that. We even got some Water cards, hm? Hm?
"Whoo, nice to see Ice winning during Fire format."
Meanwhile Flamvels are crying magma tears in the corner...
I've always had a soft spot for Ice Barrier. Glad they are finally up to snuff.
Ice Barrier is my favorite Water archetype (followed by Paleozoics), so I'm glad it's getting a TMT that it's jank very much deserves.
They did in fact, make them playable after X years
X-Saber years
As a Crusadia player yes drawing 4 is VERY good especially when you can draw into 3 ways of interrupting the opponent
My favorite deck ATM. Beautiful synergy
Revealer is so funny. I had a match against a Floo player and she legitimately just could not out it lol
>floo
>she
@@Ryan-tr8vs Huh?
@@JABRIEL251the joke is that there aren’t very many women who play yugioh.
@@Raminator243 Ah. Yeah....
Reminds me when i built ice barrier in one of the synchro events in master duel. Had revealer and hexa out and the true draco player couldn't do anything
I was about to post "Jaxel bet you to it" but I heard the intro lol
Honestly its just cool to me thay ice barriers are in any way playable now.
I had fun with a memey wetlands deck bsck in the day but knew that they were never a good archetype. But they did have some of the best aetwork in the game imo which is why i loved them.
It’s still hard to believe that Ice Barrier is not only good now (relatively speaking), but it’s actually an interesting deck. Normally I really don’t like floodgates, but the Ice Barriers are just strong enough to make it challenging for the opponent to play without being oppressive. The board it puts up is very beatable, but if they mismanage their cards they can end up with very little gas in the tank. It’s really cool to see.
What a banger intro Joseph. You inspired me with that good throwing form.
Watching MBT play decks you actually know about fills you with the same level of despair as watching the heat death of the universe
Never did I think a day would come that ice barrier is playable
Her pov be like: 0:01
Why do I hear wide music ?
0:01 Bruh, why is Joseph showing us Jillian's pov?
KNACK TWOOOOOOO
KNACK TO THE FUTURE
KNACK IS BACK BABY
Holy crap someone remembers...... that floating block thing
I guess they took the criticism to heart and made it do much better
you know what MBT, i dont even LIKE or play ygo anymore, i just love your fucking banter to your editor and the way you break shit down
Any reason why we aren't playing Graydle Dragon? An offensive alternative to Crocodragon that is better at breaking boards going second and Mirror Master makes it by itself
Graydle mentioned!
Graydle is best used as a quick synchro target on the opponents turn, which the deck is not very good at, though I do think in this list there’s room for it as a Side card.
You could play Graydle Dragon over Aegirine probably. It might come up more often.
I like how it doesn't even occur to MBT that a big buff birdman is probably not actually named "Gorgeous".
"I summon Hexa, foolish Mirror Master, summon Speaker, Synchro into Mannadium Trisukta-"
"Please leave the kitchen immediately"
My question is why are water decks just floodgate turbo? Umi stun, Icejade, Ice Barrier. It's like that's just "the thing" konami thinks primary water decks should be.
Same reason blue decks in magic are almost all counterspell stun/control.
When you make one attribute have cards of a specific play style you'll end up making more of that attribute with that play style so set 1 can work with set 2.
Also earth and water both are "passive" elements, water reacts and fills whatever container you keep it in, and earth remains motionless in spite of what you do to it
Floodgate -> flood -> water
You must be a new player that started recently. Back then we had a strong water deck called Mermail Atlanteons which were definitely NOT a stun or floodgate deck 😂
I’m not sure how optimal it is, but I’ve been messing around with an Atlantean Ice Barrier list I found on an OCG forum a few months back and the combos are pretty crazy (even though everyone in the comments was just laughing at the guy). Instead of using revealer as your starter you play Deep Sea Diva (summoning Neptabyss).
The lines change based on what extenders you have but the basic idea is that you dump mirror master with Spright Sprind and then do the full ice barrier combo after having resolved Minstrel and Moulinglacia.
nahh send link to the list
15:57 that person is gonna be happy
Was wondering about the archetype since new support supposedly comes to MD in the next weeks. I like the intro skits in these videos as well!
oh no, duel links is turning real
Don't say that. I don't want to see blue eyes become meta in the tcg as well
@@m_e_nerePendulum Duelist detected 🫡
@@m_e_nereIt was already Meta before
One of the only times that I wish Konami did drop the ball instead of making the stun deck competent, lmao. Nice video, though. Good showcase.
YESSSSSS!!!! I been waiting for this one!!!
my favourite deck finally gets something approaching love
Bruh that opening I thought something else was happening lmaoo nice pov
To hammer the fact that ice barriers sucked, I should point that he played only 3 ice barriers from the original wave of support, which are general and warlock and medallion. So they didnt make ice barrier good, they made it from the ground up
The synchros are still good, but then they always were. Brionac is only not played because of the errata.
Trishula. Medium in side.
Also how many old decks that get playable after legacy support still play several OG cards without being explicitly forced to?
Yeah look at dragunity, only Dux and Phalanx are used between the OG's have you ever heard of Dragunity Primus Pilus, Angus or Militum? Nope. But the upcoming waves of support kept the spirit of their playability as a deck, and that's the point.
You can play Spellbreaker for 1st turn
So opponent can't use spell while she is on field.
And no need to wait till warlock and 1 other ice barrier on field.
Spellbreaker only need discard 1 ice barrier and revealer in gy can banished to become alternative cost.
I’m always shocked when I see any reference to deck check in the wild because I personally view the show as a tax write off and assumed all the views were bots
Wow Konami really went “How do we make Ice Barrier playable?”
“Make a new deck!” 😂
Small complaint but instead of swap frog I’d use icejade vanegarine since for the same cost it’s an instant lancea
KNACK IS BACK BABY
They’re FINALLY playable thank Christ
I thinks it's very funny that this marks the second water tribe from duel terminal lore that got a recent wave of support that was playable in spright. Maybe in a couple years we'll get Nekroz of Gigantic
how do you wear electricity
Ice barrier is its own barrier to playing
Someone call Rata! He can make more Royal Knight callouts!
I still want to make ice barriers. Not new ice barriers, not even structure deck ice barriers. I legitimately mean the original really shitty ice barriers.
Ok
The originals are very playable I have seen people using heavily Ice Barrier Spellbreaker, Prior, Gantala, Medium, Dai Sojo and even Strategist, Guards and Shock Troops.
@@Ignisvoid001 He's saying he wants to build a deck with only the original support, from Duel Terminal.
The worst part of this video is when Joseph made me remember that Knack was a thing that happened
Ice is nicebros we are SO back
ICE BARRIERS BAYBEE! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
A RELEASE A DECADE IN THE MAKING
In more serious talk i'm glad Warlock has caught on Spellbreaker was preferred for awhile by people for some reason and shes just flat worse
One cool thing is you can go Mirror Master > Ib > Coral dragon all from the tokens he summons.
7:02 that's just halq and linkross shenanigans
Deck check mentioned!!!
General Raiho my beloved
Can't wait for non-Snake Eye Noids.
im happy they are finally playable and it looks pretty fun too!
Please god let Ice Barrier become good! The aesthetic is everything I've ever wanted in an Archetype, and I just want to play a deck I like!
Icejade synchro turns off shifter if you played ran it only hurts your opponent ruling check in judges lounge
If you already sent mirror magic master to the grave, you should use Hexa to dump the level 3 anti-spell.
It gets the brick out of your deck to revive with Georgius
Intro is so funny
Ice is my favorite attribute.
Mbt is genuinely just funny af
ice barrier have lot of good card. the only problem is that until the recent support, there virtually no card that actually tie them together as a deck. led to member of the archetype used individually in other deck instead. the other thing is that many player using them wrong way. when using ice barrier, player supposed to fill the board with em, limiting their gameplay and gradually depleting opponent resources and only synchro to push for game. common mistake player do is that they synchro summon too early, resulting in numerous removal of ice barrier floodgating eff
Banger skit this time
If that isn’t the yubel experience idk what is. 3 garnets in the opener and a duplicate of the starter.
they call him the ice man
Finally my ice cube throwing has paid off
Thanks Joseph! 😁👍
I like to imagine dough playing frogs influenced this deck.
Finaly this was my favorite deck from the star and now people wont laugh at me for plaing it
so im presuming were not getting the spright version of this for tmt :(
Lol never in a million years would I think to see Joseph play Ice barrier lol
Wait this deck is so nice now wtf
I'm confused what the duelist in the 2nd duel was doing? Could've either banished or attacked over the level 4 Ice Barrier with Fenrir but just leaves it there unless they were under some attack and effect activation restriction then they messed up.
Tried playing this with a bit of a ghoti core with Arionpos, keef and shif and some fish extenders for some higher value plays with better followup depending on some hands you can go Arionpos instead of Coral to search keef and three draws if you open the princess alongside speaker, freezing chains, medallion or george, keef itself is an excellent disruptor and advantage generator since Arionpos doesn't care about being synchro summoned to get its search effect, the bricks it introduces are a bit of a pain and accommodating fish does eat into your non-engine quite a bit but it does give the deck options into shifter.
Every knack reference has to be a dunkey reference
Looks like I need to get the Ice Barrier deck again and play it
Oh so should I trow rocks untill they make more adamancipators?
Oof no Icejade ran Aeigirine and ice jade cradle and probably should play the reborn spell at multiples cause you are playing swap frog
0:06
Did you know: Technically all Ice Barrier Monsters are playable
Don't forget swap frogs return for cost, you could return a georgius just to summon it again
Tha Speaker gave me Rimuru and Ranga vibe lol
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR ICE BARRIERS TO BE GOOD, YESSSS😭!!!
Hey where’s the most popular ice barrier royal knight?!
I don't mind the amount of effects of the Ice Barriers, it's my favorite deck I already know all the effects of the ones that exist.
I'll need to add the new ones.
Horus package with these guys goes crazy btw
The first 3 seconds are my fantasy POV
Chrococo dragon should be in the extra monster zone.
To give more space for Lancia to summon
Ice Barrier is surprisingly good!
Now do Ice Barrier Runick.
@MBTYuGiOh Which card were you reffering at the start that's an option for Turboing Lancea? General Wayne the lv.5? I can't quite catch that
Here for Wind&Water Festival in Master Duel
Good to see the Abominable Snowman play a deck that's on theme for a change
I still own the structure deck cards 😮