Couple things to add: - Whiffing 4~3 stuns you and does 10 damage to yourself. They removed this starting from Tekken 4, but you can hold down after 4~3 on whiff to get the same stun! - Even with their pushback, ff2, d12 and df12 aren't safe against the whole cast - There's a secret version of ff3 that launches on normal hit, it's ffn3 😉 It does 2 less damage and you get a guaranteed d4 stomp - Doing the just frame uf34 on a blocking opponent makes the second hit unblockable (same for all the hunting hawk variations in the game) - Remember to set the training dummy to "Quick Roll" (either up or down), most of the combos you're doing at the end are not real
Tekken 3 put Heihachi and Paul on another level of fun. Anyway, yeah, the damage of Tekken 3 is so complicated that it can be really hard to lab staple combos and figure out max damage options. You can do seemingly the same combo and get 4 different damage values, ranging A LOT. There are the "Clean hit" cases, but that's not all, distances can affect the damage in all kinds of ways.
It really speaks the utterly lawless badlands that Tekken used to be, that you could be as broken as T3 Heihachi and still not be top 3 in the roster 😂
Everyone was broken in T3. True Ogre, Ogre, Kuma/Panda, Paul, Heihachi , Brian..Dr. B( in the right hands), Gon(in the right hands)..where ALL top Tier broken
@@sadetwizelve you’re talking about tiers and I’m talking about moves two different topics. You can be a good character but have some moves that are really bad
I remember heihachi having the Paul death fist and hammer punch animations. But Paul’s death fist had a longer reach and quote me if I’m wrong but Paul’s version did more damage I think! I cannot believe how well and in depth you document the older games and expose how broken they were compared to TKN today!👍🤜🤛❤️
I'm a big Tekken fan which is my favorite fighting game ever. Just wanted to say thanks for the good content and keeping the legacy of the game alive with this informative and fun info. Salutes from Dominican Republic.
There are lots of things you got wrong. His d+1 does not hit grounded on normal characters. That works only on big characters. Gunjack is considered a big. His f,f+3 and f,f,N+3 are different. f,f+3 causes fallback stun on CH, f,f,N+3 is the same as regular Mishima f,f+3 (knockdown on hit into combo). WGF is not safe. I'm fairly certain that it is barely -10, but it most certainly can be punished by a low jab which is 8f for all characters.
Your content is bite sized and digestible and you present it so interestingly. Also in a niche that not a lot of people are doing. Really great stuff! One of my favorite tekken channels by far
Not to mention if you hold back just as the opponent does a right kick, he automatically does a reversal (which does hurt, but it really hurts your opponent).
thanks for more tekken 3 content just to correct on some things d+1 didnt hit grounded opponents only the big hitbox ones like jack and bears. also df1+2 was absolutely not safe and even launch punishable by some characters like law(jin can punish with ff2)
Tekken 3 was my first tekken as kid. Heihachi defeated me 9 CONSECUTIVE TIMES.. I was a rookie but only King defeated me before. After Heihachi the Ogre round was a JOKE to me.. I defeated him easily.
So so true! I remember him! The standing twin pistons in particular so op and obviously the hellsweeps, the ff2 and on top id that mid electric ⚡ Excellent video as always man 👍👍
Heihachi's B2 on CH was brutally broken as well. It knocked opps backwards into FFF+ range, it gave you PLENTY of breathing room in a fight, ESPECIALLY during a tight game of Tekken Force
Tekken 3 is the only game where Heihachi can do a Demon Uppercut out of the hellsweeps. Guess they thought it was redundant with the existence of the Dragon Uppercut ender. Still a fun option to mess around with, though.
A few omissions/inaccuracies D+1 only hit bigs on the ground in T3. T4 is the first and only game where it hit everyone grounded The first hit of his hellsweep was special mid/special low and could be blocked standing. So while his wgf was mid he didnt have a low to mix it with
is this the ps1 version? i noticed the similar stage in tekken tag 1 and tekken tag 2 the school infinite stage i never saw that stage in my ps1 when i was a kid
I believe d+1 only hits grounded consistently if you've got a large opponent like Jack or True Ogre. It hits alright on the side angles but doesn't really hit medium or small characters if they're lying clean on their feet or head. That said, WGF among other things, does actually hit grounded large opponents. If they don't techroll, f,f+1+2 WGF is a thing.
Do a video on T3 Yoshimitsu. His flash was a true unblockable in that game, had much better range and it could deal like 40 damage. Broken beyond belief lol.
Flash had markedly worse range compared to modern Tekkens, it was i5 however. Other notable stuff Yoshi had in T3 was his DF2, absurd reach (can even punish deathfist at most ranges and only -1 on block), fubuki knee that could be done at i7, disjointed hurtbox on DF4, and MID hitting poison mist. And on a trivial note, Yoshi in T3 also had the coolest side throw in Tekken history. 🗿
not even a comparison heihachis side step in tekken 3 covers 3 times more distance than his tekken 7 side step and of course backdash cancel was way better too
did ever think by everybody that we maining our char because it S tear back in the day, Hei in tekken 3 was as shown in the video, compare it to hei T7. still strong but you need more effort to use him. i think usage statistic is true.
Heihachi was not broken, his attacks has more damage & range but movements are slow, some characers has more speed but less range & less damage, some has more damage but less styles , some has more range & speed but less damage.. in my opinion the only broken character in tekken 3 was Paul, he had better range, better damage & better speed.
Couple things to add:
- Whiffing 4~3 stuns you and does 10 damage to yourself. They removed this starting from Tekken 4, but you can hold down after 4~3 on whiff to get the same stun!
- Even with their pushback, ff2, d12 and df12 aren't safe against the whole cast
- There's a secret version of ff3 that launches on normal hit, it's ffn3 😉 It does 2 less damage and you get a guaranteed d4 stomp
- Doing the just frame uf34 on a blocking opponent makes the second hit unblockable (same for all the hunting hawk variations in the game)
- Remember to set the training dummy to "Quick Roll" (either up or down), most of the combos you're doing at the end are not real
Good list.
I might add that I'm 99% certain that d+1 doesnt hit grounded on normal characters.
Dont test ground hits on Jack. :D
thanks a lot for the info bro
I played this game online for like 15 years and I never knew about ffn3. My mind is blown
@@Kaiya134online? How?
@Kaiya134 iirc the first tekken to be playable online was tekken 5 💁♂️
Heihachi with the coat was peak.
Tekken 3 put Heihachi and Paul on another level of fun. Anyway, yeah, the damage of Tekken 3 is so complicated that it can be really hard to lab staple combos and figure out max damage options. You can do seemingly the same combo and get 4 different damage values, ranging A LOT. There are the "Clean hit" cases, but that's not all, distances can affect the damage in all kinds of ways.
Tekken 3 was so drunk at times
It really speaks the utterly lawless badlands that Tekken used to be, that you could be as broken as T3 Heihachi and still not be top 3 in the roster 😂
Everyone was broken in T3. True Ogre, Ogre, Kuma/Panda, Paul, Heihachi , Brian..Dr. B( in the right hands), Gon(in the right hands)..where ALL top Tier broken
Heihachi is the Tekken equivalent of Vince McMahon.
2:05 the second hit of the just frame UF3,4 is **unblockable**
I see^^
WHAT?
@@highoctanesynx7950 *sits you down by the campfire*
Once upon a time in Tekken, there was no such thing as guard protection...
Imagine Tekken 7 Heihachi had these moves 😭😭😭
Wouldn't matter,mishimas are always o.p.
@@sadetwizelve that is not entirely true Tekken 6 speaks otherwise
@xenobroly0062 there was never a tekken where mishimas were below A tier.
@@sadetwizelve you’re talking about tiers and I’m talking about moves two different topics. You can be a good character but have some moves that are really bad
@@sadetwizelveT6 Heihachi and Kazuya, T5/DR Jin, T7 S2-3 Heihachi. Maximum B tier.
And, no, it would definitely matter. T3 - Tag era was insane.
I remember heihachi having the Paul death fist and hammer punch animations. But Paul’s death fist had a longer reach and quote me if I’m wrong but Paul’s version did more damage I think! I cannot believe how well and in depth you document the older games and expose how broken they were compared to TKN today!👍🤜🤛❤️
You are correct in that Paul's deathfist did more damage but other than that the moves were identical.
Heihachi in T8 when he’s released as DLC:
I really hope so
Reina is going to resurrect him somehow, you heard that first here. 😋
Maybe as a cyber bot. Cyhachi
I'm a big Tekken fan which is my favorite fighting game ever. Just wanted to say thanks for the good content and keeping the legacy of the game alive with this informative and fun info. Salutes from Dominican Republic.
glad you like my content^^
Reina needs to get that pimp coat as an unlockable costume.
There are lots of things you got wrong.
His d+1 does not hit grounded on normal characters. That works only on big characters. Gunjack is considered a big.
His f,f+3 and f,f,N+3 are different. f,f+3 causes fallback stun on CH, f,f,N+3 is the same as regular Mishima f,f+3 (knockdown on hit into combo).
WGF is not safe. I'm fairly certain that it is barely -10, but it most certainly can be punished by a low jab which is 8f for all characters.
Your content is bite sized and digestible and you present it so interestingly. Also in a niche that not a lot of people are doing. Really great stuff! One of my favorite tekken channels by far
He was in the prime of his human lifespan. 😂 insane
Loving this direction of content brother, keep it up 👊🏼👊🏼
Heihachi's unblockable, Lightning Hammer, can track opponents who tech roll after a juggle. This was removed in Tekken 6.
Not to mention if you hold back just as the opponent does a right kick, he automatically does a reversal (which does hurt, but it really hurts your opponent).
Been waiting for this one❤
hope you enjoyed it^^
Just the fact that his hellsweep doesn’t block stagger gave me hemorrhoids.
thanks for more tekken 3 content
just to correct on some things d+1 didnt hit grounded opponents only the big hitbox ones like jack and bears.
also df1+2 was absolutely not safe and even launch punishable by some characters like law(jin can punish with ff2)
thanks for the info bro^^
Tekken 3 was my first tekken as kid.
Heihachi defeated me 9 CONSECUTIVE TIMES.. I was a rookie but only King defeated me before.
After Heihachi the Ogre round was a JOKE to me.. I defeated him easily.
That's why I keep winning against my cousins, brother and sisters, because he's broken as fuck. Lol
haha
Tekken 3 was the best and most innovative in the series. Still play it now over Tekken 7 which is nothing like how Tekken used to be
Very deep "Oh YEAH!"
So so true! I remember him! The standing twin pistons in particular so op and obviously the hellsweeps, the ff2 and on top id that mid electric ⚡
Excellent video as always man 👍👍
thanks bro
He didn't have electric in T3 😂yet
@@Leadblast ikr only Jin had but hey tbh I prefer the old school mid WGF over the high EWGF we have nowadays 😅
This is where I start maining Heihachi ⚡
Heihachi's B2 on CH was brutally broken as well. It knocked opps backwards into FFF+ range, it gave you PLENTY of breathing room in a fight, ESPECIALLY during a tight game of Tekken Force
Ooooh good old b2❤❤❤❤
the sound of his df1 hitting is hilarious
Tekken 3 is the only game where Heihachi can do a Demon Uppercut out of the hellsweeps. Guess they thought it was redundant with the existence of the Dragon Uppercut ender. Still a fun option to mess around with, though.
so true
A few omissions/inaccuracies
D+1 only hit bigs on the ground in T3. T4 is the first and only game where it hit everyone grounded
The first hit of his hellsweep was special mid/special low and could be blocked standing. So while his wgf was mid he didnt have a low to mix it with
Back when his iron palm was a deathfist lol
Nice hei t8 dlc previews
True MID WGF
damn, live was good in T3
T3 soundtrack is so damn good
is this the ps1 version? i noticed the similar stage in tekken tag 1 and tekken tag 2 the school infinite stage i never saw that stage in my ps1 when i was a kid
Hoochi in his prime
Can you do a law video?
Imagine if heiachi has 13 frame launcher in Tekken 7 😱😱
0:51 "It completely hits grounded" with the exception of Mokujin, which somehow he cannot hit while Mokujin's grounded
Not just Mokujin... all normal size characters when grounded don't get hit by his d+1. Only big characters do.
@@Leadblast Nina and Eddy can get hit while they're grounded. I don't know about the other non-bigs though.
He needed it
I believe d+1 only hits grounded consistently if you've got a large opponent like Jack or True Ogre. It hits alright on the side angles but doesn't really hit medium or small characters if they're lying clean on their feet or head. That said, WGF among other things, does actually hit grounded large opponents. If they don't techroll, f,f+1+2 WGF is a thing.
Do a video on T3 Yoshimitsu. His flash was a true unblockable in that game, had much better range and it could deal like 40 damage. Broken beyond belief lol.
Flash had markedly worse range compared to modern Tekkens, it was i5 however. Other notable stuff Yoshi had in T3 was his DF2, absurd reach (can even punish deathfist at most ranges and only -1 on block), fubuki knee that could be done at i7, disjointed hurtbox on DF4, and MID hitting poison mist.
And on a trivial note, Yoshi in T3 also had the coolest side throw in Tekken history. 🗿
@@strykah92Yeah, that side throw blew my mind when I was a kid. I still remember when my friend showed it to me when I was like 13 years old lol.
Heihachi peaked in Tekken 3!
1:40
Should we tell them?
Should we really tell them?
xD
wavedash looks clunky, prolly do it without wave dash to emphasize on the moves more
Ff3 will launch if delay in ff then press 3
Ff*3
So basicly everything he does is safe 😂
df 1 2 is launch punishable
df+1,2 twin pistons is horrendously launch punishable, other moves like f,f+2 or deathfist are safe or not depending on matchup
@@mwkan772oh I see👍
i mean really what were the rules when making a character in those times?
There was only one rule? There was no rules!!!🤣🤣🤣
What does i15 mean? Awesome video btw!
15 frames
But what does "i" stands for? Thanks
i means speed I think
@@mr-r1999 The i stands for impact, because the move "impacts" (aka hits) at frame 15. Japan and its weird shit...
@@maxmercurythemm827
Giant Swing in neutral is i15 but 10f
Electrics are i14 but 11f
In Tekken 6 kazuya do not got block In spin kick
The big man got older and weaker after this. :(
The movement is even better then Tekken 7
it is
not even a comparison
heihachis side step in tekken 3 covers 3 times more distance than his tekken 7 side step
and of course backdash cancel was way better too
He has a just frame wgf
I see
Not in T3. Hei's WGF is just a WGF. Jin does have a "justframe WGF" but it doesn't even launch. He also has EWGF.
did ever think by everybody that we maining our char because it S tear back in the day, Hei in tekken 3 was as shown in the video, compare it to hei T7. still strong but you need more effort to use him.
i think usage statistic is true.
Didnt realize how strong heihachi was in tekken 3 😂
He made Tekken Force an absolute breeze
@@Robert-nl3fd 😂
It was ridiculous. True Ogre took up half the screen during Tekken Force...and his snake arm took up most of the rest
@@Robert-nl3fd true ogre was to dang big 😂
@@moneydemand1150 It was funny af, to bathe each level in fire😆. Totally brutal
Really, the order of bosses in TK3 is messed up
The hardest boss comes first, and the easier last
and there's so much stuff people don't know about it..especially doctor b
Next time don't try things on Jack. Specially grounded and range related attacks.
ok
mid godfist
Heihachi was not broken, his attacks has more damage & range but movements are slow, some characers has more speed but less range & less damage, some has more damage but less styles , some has more range & speed but less damage.. in my opinion the only broken character in tekken 3 was Paul, he had better range, better damage & better speed.
Bro talking like only he was broken in tekken 3, mate it was game of brokens😂
Lol Brokken 3
Another video showing how cheap any o.p. mishimas have always been.
He was in the same game as Ogre dude
@@crack4184Dude has something personal against Mishimas. Calling Mishimas or any character cheap because they are insanely good/bad in T3 is kinda...
No view gang
thanks a lot for the support bro^^
He wasn't even top tier xD
All knockdown lows in Tekken 3 has no stagger when guarded. You need to block the entire string of hellsweep