How to record an upright piano (Mono & Stereo techniques)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @cyanmonk5016
    @cyanmonk5016 3 года назад +9

    omgg yess, Very few videos teach techniques for mono recording, thank you so much.

    • @firepyro66
      @firepyro66 3 года назад

      sadly that is because it is way better to have a stereo signal for solo piano.

  • @scottcompton8862
    @scottcompton8862 3 года назад +3

    Nice job. I appreciate your thought process, illustrations and attention to detail. Nice playing too. Thank you.

  • @eimidioskouroi
    @eimidioskouroi 3 года назад +8

    GREAT video! Very informative and concise. Good job!

  • @imelbook
    @imelbook 3 года назад +10

    For me, the microphones positioned at the back have the best audio.

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      I prefer those as well. I always try the front first but I always check the back and usually end up using that.

  • @schmotown
    @schmotown 3 года назад +1

    I had another opportunity to record the Schimmel so naturally I watched your video again and decided to try your "random" mic placement on the soundboard side. The results were very good, perhaps our best yet, but we will continue experimenting with other setups. Thanks again!

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      So happy you got good results with it. People usually avoid it because there is no "system" behind it. Well done for trying it. Glad your experimentations are producing better results, keep it up, it'll only be getting better!

  • @schmotown
    @schmotown 3 года назад +8

    Trying to find the best mic placement to record my son on our Schimmel upright later today. Your video is by far the most instructive I could find. Thanks!

  • @VoodooProjectStudio
    @VoodooProjectStudio 2 года назад +3

    So much great info! Fantastic video man! I always prefer a/b on the piano(s) I record. Feels more natural or at least what I am expecting to hear.

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  2 года назад

      Καλησπέρα. Ευχαριστώ!
      Ναι, συνήθως το ORTF και το AB είναι τα πρώτα που δοκιμάζω.
      Δοκιμάζεις και πίσω από το πιάνο ή μόνο μπροστά;

    • @VoodooProjectStudio
      @VoodooProjectStudio 2 года назад +1

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer Καλησπέρα! Έχω δοκιμάσει και πίσω αρκετές φορές. Ωστόσο, μου δίνει πολλή ατάκα (στο δικό μου πιάνο), συνεπώς το χρησιμοποιώ μόνο όταν ψάχνω τέτοιον ήχο.

  • @azbassclarinet
    @azbassclarinet 3 года назад +2

    Thank very much for this great video !!

  • @frankherrgott
    @frankherrgott 3 года назад +2

    very helpful. Thanks you!!!!!

  • @Rialas
    @Rialas 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your videos 👍

  • @PastorinoPaolo
    @PastorinoPaolo 3 года назад +2

    Hi Constantine! Is it possible to have these tracks, please?
    Thank you in advance!

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      Sure. Get in touch here www.constantine-music.com/contact/ and I'll set you up.
      If the captcha doesn't show up, refresh the page.

  • @TheTechPianoPlayerKid
    @TheTechPianoPlayerKid 8 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video. I’ve been trying to figure a different techniques on how to record my piano from home in my bedroom. My sound set up is a Soundcraft Signature 12MTK, and I use a DBX286S with a shure sm57 dynamic microphone, when doing videos, or vocal recordings for podcasts. When I want to record my piano, I invested in 2 berenger xm8500 microphones. Would these 2 types of microphones be OK to use, and what is your best suggestion or advice to record this type of piano, and where to place the microphones? The piano I have is a Kawaii K500 upright piano

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  8 месяцев назад

      First of all, thank you.
      Second, I have no experience with Behringer products (Other than their synths). Out of curiosity, why did you invest in getting the same dynamic mic twice? Why not one, and then a stereo matched condenser pair?
      You can definitely experiment with those for recording though.
      I wouldn’t make any suggestions on how to record you piano, as I do not know what the room looks like. All I can say is to move it away from the wall, and try all the techniques I am demonstrating at the video. And then find the one that sounds good and experiment further with various distances.

    • @TheTechPianoPlayerKid
      @TheTechPianoPlayerKid 8 месяцев назад

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer i’m not sure, I just never considered doing it with a stereo pair. I’ve had these for a while anyway. My other microphone I have is an audio technica condenser microphone, which ran around $100 at the time. Then I have a Shure sm57 dynamic microphone, which at the time also was around $100.

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheTechPianoPlayerKid in my humble opinion, a piano should always be in stereo. A mono recording is not doing it justice. Experiment with different positions. Don't be fussed about the mics at the moment. And try to move the piano away from the wall too.

    • @TheTechPianoPlayerKid
      @TheTechPianoPlayerKid 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer Will do. Thanks so much for your advice and suggestions.

  • @haley8004
    @haley8004 2 года назад

    Thanks this is helpful I was looking for weirder ways like using contact mics and guitar pickups. Would also be helpful for listening comparison to quickly switch between all of them with labels onscreen.

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  2 года назад +1

      I am not a big fan of contact mics for pianos (or for any acoustic instrument) but that's actually a good idea to explore in a future video. Sound design-wise it might be interesting.
      Thanks for watching.

    • @haley8004
      @haley8004 2 года назад

      ​@@ConstantineMusicComposer Cool, sounds interesting to me. Using contact mics or pickups I have no practical knowledge of but the idea is appealing.

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  2 года назад +1

      @@haley8004 Indeed it is. And happy accidents happen all the time in music, so you never know! Have fun!

  • @vwdiver512
    @vwdiver512 2 года назад +2

    Great comparison - but as someone born with perfect pitch the fact that he ended every example with an unresolved dominant 7th chord was bugging me to no end! LOL - I had to sit by my keyboard and play a Db chord after he finished each section!!! :-)

  • @idmn42
    @idmn42 Год назад

    AB 30 from top sounds to me like it has some phase problems.

  • @prodbyfelixhien
    @prodbyfelixhien 2 года назад +1

    nice jobs, thanks! isn't a great room to record though, right?

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  2 года назад

      Thank you!
      No, I hate that room, haha. Unfortunately, the studios were fully booked and the pianist couldn't do it another day. So I had to use that room. It had a weird reverb, terrible acoustics and the piano wasn't great. The only thing I liked was the pianist.
      Demonstration-wise though, it would do alright for a video.

  • @scroza743
    @scroza743 3 года назад +1

    Cool videm, dude!
    What Mic did u use?
    Thks!

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! The mics were the Schoeps CMC 6 Microphone Amplifier with the MK 4 capsule .
      Possibly my favorite mic! A tad expensive but they are great. Totally recommend them!

    • @scroza743
      @scroza743 3 года назад

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer yeah, for sure a great mic!! Cool man!

    • @scroza743
      @scroza743 3 года назад

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer very interesting vídeo!!

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад +1

      @@scroza743 Obrigado!

    • @scroza743
      @scroza743 3 года назад +1

      @@ConstantineMusicComposer parakalò

  • @nfexec1312
    @nfexec1312 3 года назад

    Helpful video, but my goodness - why didn't you have that piano tuned? That's much more than simply providing tuned samples - it affects the quality of the audio results!

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      Well, that is actually very easy to answer!
      It’s a two part answer though.
      1. I actually mention it at the beginning of the video. This is not a good piano (Nor a good recording environment!). I say that from all the things that you need to have a good sound, we only have the good musician part! So this is strictly a demonstration of where to put the mics and what techniques to try. And you of course get an idea between their differences in sound quality.
      2. This channel makes no money. I share these tutorials with the world for free in hopes that some might find the information helpful. And I ask for nothing in return.
      But since I am not making any money (The money from the ads on my channel are going straight to RUclips as I can’t monetize my channel) it wouldn't be wise to invest the 100 pounds that costs to tune a piano where I live. Especially for a piano that I would never use again.

    • @villasandvistas
      @villasandvistas 3 года назад +1

      ​@@ConstantineMusicComposer Interestingly, the tuning reminds me of time in history where this piece would be enjoyed. It was fun to imagine hearing where this mic'ing would fit a movie score/ mix perspective. For me and my out of tune piano, this was very helpful! Be well

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      @@villasandvistas Haha, yeah. I can imagine that too.
      Thanks!

  • @lyneicehaynes4922
    @lyneicehaynes4922 Год назад

    I got a new piano from best choices products with headphones and microphone.

  • @SunZR
    @SunZR 5 месяцев назад

    Cons of this vid:
    - Dont used the pedal (pedal noices)
    - No very high notes

  • @bumsibar6163
    @bumsibar6163 3 года назад

    maybe tune before?

    • @ConstantineMusicComposer
      @ConstantineMusicComposer  3 года назад

      Definitely yes!
      If you are going to do a professional recording and you have the budget to hire a piano tuner, then even better! If you are referring to the specific piano we use at the video, I see no reason to pay an extra 90quid to tune the piano and then record in such a bad sounding environment when it's only for demonstration purposes.

  • @gerdmilano8137
    @gerdmilano8137 Месяц назад

    I hear distortion and an untuned piano.