MEP-006A Military 60KW GenSet. Overview And First Run After Sitting For 3+ years...
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- MEP-006A Military 60KW GenSet. Overview And First Run After Sitting For 3+ years...
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~Russ
Notice you didn't reinstall that insulated panel you took off and latter shut the exterior doors without it in place. That's there for a reason.
I sense the knowledge of a 51D in you
I was a 52D
@@2naturesownplace his D is bigger
22:19 The non-conductive cover that was taken off wasn't put back on.
I was waiting for the bang of a big arc.
Honestly it's natural selection at this point
he put them back in the bolt holes before he started it.
Thought i only seen him Put one bolt back in the threaded hole
beachbums2008 no he put both back on.
this dude is 3 fries short of a happy meal !
Yes indeed it would appear he is not we informed on the operation of that unit quite fascinating.
Incest means never sleeping alone.
Spiffy dresser tho. Lol.
Many more than three !!!!!
@@jamescostello6529 ??? So what siblings don't leave each others side ? Even creepier....
cover up the reconfiguration panel. Walking around w keys hanging off your waist can get you a nice arc and hurt you.
Danny Santiago it’s not even on.
Num nut look again from 18:22 volt meter is definitely showing power.
Ya, and note keys are dangling almost right in front of his gonads.
It would only for a couple of seconds
@@boxwoodgreen not that big though
Not the brightest cookie in the jar....
Kenneth Silvers ........ lol
Kenneth Silvers sheeeeeeeeeeeettttt
Cookies are bright???
Those socks are a mosquito repellent, but that fedora is a woman repellent .
Justin E. Dayumm roasted 😂
Its not a Fedora , Its an asshat
He managed to get the SOB started and knew where to test the voltage... Not sure I could have done that much
Hats cool, BO is the woman repellant.
bahahahahahha dude going for the hubter a Thompson look.
AFter the 5th "Im just gonna fire this thing up" ...WHEN???
That’s one heck of generator, and those allis engines are absolutely amazing
Friend of mine found this video last night while researching the 006 his boss bought for work. I used to run and work on this model, and was like, "the knob right and below the control box! Pull it out and bring your frequency up!"
I was fixing these back in the 70,s
Why dislike something so valueable and interesting, i would love to go to a milaiary auction and get myself one. Thank you for sharing this. My brother Dom Dedam is an electricion. I am sure he knows the in and out of this thing. Its above and beyond.
That control box, among other things, would've made sure the generators were in sync with each other frequency wise. Super important for 3 phase generators.
Skip to 16:40 If you don't want to waste your time
Thanks!
bro ! thank u ....
i got tired of hearing lets see if it fires up ,,,
It was all a waist of time
too late
Sahmeebuilt the Mechanic 6 times. I went upstairs, mom went to play bingo, had to fix my own sabwitch, spilled mayo had to clean it up, then went back downstairs, only to remember I left the sabwitch on the conter, but I was to laat, ms puzzy jumbed up an eight it. Bye then I was not hungery, so wen bac down to wath too cee if it started. Then wunderred wy he dndnt us sumthin to pluge ntoo too cee if it werkd.
I love all the know it all comments. 400 hz? I guess they cant read the the nameplate you got a close up on. It clearly says 60 hz....lol The 3 phase might be an issue, as you really dont want to run unbalanced loads, meaning loading 2 phases with current and 1 phase without any. That is definitely not a preferred way of doing it. Nice find and probably a rock solid unit. Just be careful man, you really look like you dont have any Electrical experience.
i wonder if these folks know they can get a manual for these. we know the military had one printed up. although it may be on disc these days.
142 Hours? That thing is brand new. It was probably purchased new for $30,000, tested monthly for once an hour, then sold 20 years later for pennies on the dollar.
Great score!...but an example of how wasteful the government is.
These are actually portable gens for the military, they wouldnt be hooked up to an ATS for exercise purposes. 142 hours is very high.
the sad thing is the government has to be wasteful to prevent insane wastefulness, it makes no sense until you work within the beast and see the INSANE animal that the most powerful government truly is...
Pretty much most military equipment are never used unless in combat environments or aircraft.
I've seen the trailer units that have an ECU (environmental control unit (hvac)) cost about $100k about 7 years ago. Not sure of kw, but the mechanic told me it'll run a few houses without a problem.
alex4alexn - how so? And whay specifically? Is it getting the 3 bids to purchase something? Or the having to spend your entire budget, lest you not get it all the following year?
Just curious, thanks.
Thank you for sharing your interesting acquisition. What ever you paid was a fraction of the GSA price to the Air Force. During your video I did not notice that the checked: Coolant level; crank case oil level; inspect the water separators; inspect or replace fuel filters; inspect and replace oil filters. In other words, You demonstrated a fool's method of checking out this valuable piece of equipment. In the military we call this: PMCS "Preventative Maintenance Checks and Systems."
You have a good runner there Russ, i maintain MEP's like that for a living. They dont all start up so easily after sitting for so long. If you need any info or have questions about MEP units hit me up. I've been watching your videos for a year or so now. Its awesome to see that unit in one of your video's.
Hi, I got one of these and need some help bringing it to life. It starts and runs, but the Hz are under 48 or 0 and the Volts only stay at 40 or 50. Any help would much be appreciated!
400 hz?😁 Some folks don't have a friggin clue....
400HZ for aircraft and radar. That is a 50/60HZ generator set.
Lol.
400 Hertz is a aircraft Hertz
400Hz is used in airplanes. Remember, this is a U.S.A.F. generator.
Aircraft generators are 400 Hz. That generator is a Ground Power Unit for aircraft. I
t would damage almost any appliance that requires 60Hz, like a refrigerator etc. So much for an emergency power unit for disaster areas.
I would purge the fuel system, get a new filter, etc. You never know. There might be quite a bit of water in the tank after sitting for such a long time.
If you run it low on fuel, you risk sucking in all that crap through the IP and ruin it + the injectors. Costly to repair.
Your right about flushing the fuel, putting a new filter. Also do that with the oil. I did notice the oil light was on. Also needs a new oil filter and drain the radiator and refill it with right amount of anti-freeze.
I would check the fan belts and all the hoses.
Just go through it and replace as much as you can.
These big generators, especially the military have their own wiring outputs.
They are not forgiving.
D. Hansel the oil light was on because of it not being started just yet so there was no pressure yet
,go to toggle set it to 50or 60 then learn about line legs and back read the manaul or leave it alone
You may want to check w/your local power company about connecting this in a power outage you may back feed power into the grid and electricute employees working to restore power.
I don't think this yahoo would recognize a transfer switch from a railroad switch.
Cut off main breaker at meter or hell just pull the meter and u know ur good
This looks like the generator in all of those National Guard recruitment commercials.
Interesting, his life may be short lived me thinks, amazing how people that have no clue manage to stay alive.
Roland Elliott
My favorite part was when he was haphazardly probing around the high voltage leads with his $10 meter and no protective equipment.
You mean it wasn't a CAT III Fluke? OMG! ROFLMAO
i served over 22 years as a track mechanic and never wore jewelry or had anything hanging off me even my dog tags went in the tool box.
p.s. i still have all my fingers also.
Glad to see someone benefited from our tax dollars.
OMG, it started right up. After sitting for 3 years it sounds sweet.
You keep your finger on the start button until the cycles meter needle hits 60 Hz.
I used to maintain and operate these in the USMC.
Thank you for your service. We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
SHE RUNS DADDY SHE RUNS !!!!!
Could just plug a tool in the 110 outlet and see if it works, much simpler. Sure wouldn’t be sticking my tester in the open panel like that, just asking for a jolt. There’s a reason why the electronics are covered, for your safety,lol.
im in the navy and i work on the same generators we call them TQGs (tactically quiet generators) they will power just about anything and everything
That thing isn't a tac quiet. The 800 MEP series are. This is a MEP 006.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Sweet! Try to find out the fuel consumption in gallons per hour. You can definitely run that diesel on a vegetable oil blend of 80% veggie and 20% gasoline. This will not harm it at all and you won't need to modify anything. Message me for more details. God is blessing you, Russ.
And you know this particular engine because...?
WOW ! With this thing you can start your own small city
Cool. There is one on ebay now.. starting bid $3000. 1974 Fermont Div. Military Mep 006A Generator 60 KW 3 Phase 966 Hours
Used one just like it in the USAF. You don't need to convert anything. Just use a single phase. Or 2 Phases for 240Vac.
Nice score. Diesel generators are great; I have a very small one myself. Those hours are high for military use but for everyone else ... with regular oil changes and clean fuel, you'll get 100,000 hours out of it before it needs a major overhaul. Keep in mind though: DON'T RUN IT WITH NO LOAD OR AN UNDERSIZED LOAD except for very brief tests. If run without sufficient load, diesel engines will develop a "wet stack" condition and will require some time-consuming maintenance to fix.
Art C the hours are high for military use? Try again.......
James Punting had generators on deployment with 4000 hours so try again.
James Punting they weren't but you obviously know everything so just keep telling yourself that they don't send anything into the field with more than 50 hours on it.......it's not true so stop passing inaccurate information.
Engine RPM will dictate frequency, which should be 1800 RPM. The throttle lever (round black knob) is to the right of the air intake, just beneath the control panel. Once you increase the throttle you'll notice the frequency dial rotate up towards 60 Hz.
Bingo. Sounds like you were a 52D also.
Frequency should be set under load. Depending on what you are feeding, probably should be just under or around 61Hz with no load. Will drop to 60 under load. Have a 300kW CAT at work that runs between 61 and 61.5Hz no load.
Curious that the frequency is very low and the frequency meter once had tags on it - probably tagged as inop or inaccurate. It's OK he's gonna get his o'scope out. Maybe a VOM that measures Hz would be easier. Good luck...
I was too back in the day. Went to Ft. Belvior back in the late 70s.
Ft Belvoir early 80s 😊 52 D HAPPY 4th everyone 🎉🎆🎇✨️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yep, 400Hz is accurate. 400 Hz is typical of those, they power the mobile maintenance shelter vans you see the military using. there are ways to change it over to 60Hz those cable outlets are 100 amp rated. This guy is playing with a human bug zappa, and he is definately a darwin candidate....... Drop that external hose in a 55 gallon drum or thousand of gallons semi trailer. They do have a bolt on trailer kit, so he is on the right track there..... Watching to see his reaction to the noise... Now he can power half the neighborhood if he can afford the diesel.
I read quite a ways down the comments and I can't believe how illiterate people are when it comes to spelling and grammar!
Hillbilly bug zapper LOL I guess he's ready to sell electricity to the neighborhood when the SHTF. I'm suddenly not nearly as annoyed with my neighbors.
Wat? Hehe.
It is a MIL-SPEC diesel it starting easily is not a real surprise.
calvingreene90 ... I'm pretty sure these have a 6cyl Allis Chalmers turbo diesel. It's a really smooth, quiet power plant. Back in the mid 70s, while in Korea I would heat coffee water on the turbo when we were in the field.
I used to work with these.
This unit is strictly 3 phase and the voltage adaptations is reconfigurable for 208Y120 volts or 415Y240 volts... 50/60 ~ Hz for international use.
Finally, I found a technical comment from someone who actually knows what they’re talking about! Thank you!
Well done Rus, now you are also a 60KWatts generator operator ! ;) Well done !
Yesss Battle Short! I've worked on many military gens like this, always got a kick out of battle short. Look at those schematics on the enclosure doors and you'll see the battle short switch literally bypasses every safety system on the unit. You could put a bullet through the sump and lose all the oil and she'll still run until the rings seize, love it.
The voltage restrap board cannot switch a three phase unit to a single phase unit. You'll have the option to be 480 in one position and 208 in the other, all three phase. The external 120V residential outlets are powered by seperate windings in the stator. Theyll always have power even when the main breaker is opened.
State municipalities in our area like these units because they are cheap cheap cheap. 142 hours is WAY high, especially if she sat for three years. In my experience (limited but still) these never have over 50-75 hours. Think about it... these arent little portable generacs for your table saw on a job site. These are for large Kw three phase applications that are prioritized by utility companies. These maybe power critical infrastructure for a couple hours three or four times a year.
No glow plugs but look at the little bung on the intake manifold, thats an ether assist, AKA "winter kit" which you do have.
Lead acid or NiCad for gensets, never AGM. Whenever we see optimas in an overachievers genset we recommend they get out of there. Absorbed glass mat batteries are mostly designed for impact absorption, not being on a trickle charger forever and ever and discharging once or twice a year.
Hopefully your friend paid pennies for it, they're cheap but rare and def cool to play with. I'd buy one just to mess with the Battle Short...
Do know where i can find one .i bought one but i need parts for this beast... Especially the fuel system thanks ..alot
@@VI0LET539 allis-chalmers made agricultural equipment, maybe a place that works on old tractors can find parts for you. I worked in a forklift shop for a while and they routinely had to find parts for 30-50 year old forklifts
I don't know what shop you were in where 142 hours is "high", every MEP I worked on had thousands of hours. During my deployment my two little MEP-803Bs reached over 9700 hours before the army took them away for referb.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
Wow, I just stumbled onto this. That's awesome Russ!
You better check with the D.O.T on the use of the axles Don,t think you can use them for safety.
He would be better off just mounting the thing on a double axle flat deck trailer used for hauling cars.
That’s a beautiful Genny.
awesome Russ, amazing piece of equipment, and to have it to help those in need is an honerable cause indeed, this is one of my top chanels on the tube and in 2 weeks i have watched all your vids, although i am still waiting for those fuses to be blown up still,lol.
Perfect for those late night camping trips.. Nice vid. I hope to see more of this baby in action.
over here in the netherlands 3 phase is null l1 l2 and l3 null (380 volt 50 hrz) and one phase is ..... one phase , so basicly you can hook up every fuse in the home on a different phase of the generator and run the gen as is
You lucky duck.
I want one too !
Great video.
Godspeed.
I would have done an oil change before I attempted to start it also put at least 5 gallons of fuel in there
My first thought, he looked at everything else. Obviously does't have the first clue about a diesel engine.. but then again neither did my former boss.
Very nice machine.
+RODALCO2007 you are everywhere
you are EVERYWHERE
you are here when there is intense electric current
RODALCO2007 aren’t you the wasp guy??
He's the New Zealander who makes high voltage wasp fryers.
You didn't say what exactly what it was, but you made a reference to the frequency of the generator. You need to be careful about that. They made two versions of those generators. One runs at 60 Hz, the other runs at 400 Hz. By your comment "that can't be right" I bet you got a 400 HZ model didn't you?
The brown panel you took off is called GPO-1,Type of fiberglass used in electrical insulation.I worked at a place we made many parts like that.
I worked on those, 30kw, 10kw and 5kw in the Army. I also do disaster recovery working with generators up to 75kw Cats.
I got to work on everything from MEP-802s to 009s, even got to work with the 012's a few times
CE1 here. I’d take some time a read the manuals. They do kill. This I know. And the one that died went through the same school I did. Read the manual and ware long sleeves and jeans at the least. Keep the doors closed when it’s running and put back the insulators. I hope you get to take this to disaster zones. Try to coordinate with some existing groups who do this. I work hurricane recovery through those channels. Just driving towards a wiped out town with this in tow don’t guarantee you getting it in no matter how bad they need it.
We ran these in iraq to power 8 shops. Each with dual 20k btu ac units and tons of stuff for testing/repairing electronics. We ran around 35 to 40kw most times.
They are really great generator's not as quiet as one of those civilian whisper watt Generators but still a nice unit the only thing rong is that AC has been out of business for so long that parts for that engine are very tough to find.
She good she very good she the best generator love her
You could charge a large bank of batteries with that thing real fast and power your household 110 for a week or 2 on the cost of a few gallons of diesel. If you needed 220 for anything you have that covered. Who needs solar panels. ;)
4:20 Power output over 100% is called WEP "War Emergency Power". It's a state that allows for greater output at the cost of damaging the equipment. It's typically used in conjunction with something called "battleshort" where the safety features are bypassed to guarantee the equipment will continue to function during an emergency situation. Battleshort comes from "shorting" the equipment by replacing fuses with copper bus bars of sufficient thickness to handle the current
you are lucky!!
just waiting for the video where this guy darwins himself poking around in the output wiring
Trailer axles are designed for one purpose, from manufacture to dealer, then to the point of setup.
They are sent back to a refurbish company. Then taken completely apart and checked out, then reassembled. The brake pads are not designed like autos or trucks are.
the neighbors must love you.
Looks like the old reliable stuff it was built to last, but the run ours is very short which means it’s not even broken in yet i’d imagine it last forever you take care of it.
WTF was so funny ?
Military auctions their crap off all the time. And most of this stuff is treated/serviced like it was gold. And it's usually cheap. And the ground flyboys are very good with servicing their 'equipment. (Wink wink).
And you seem to know enough about electric to get yourself killed. I've seen powerlines arch through plywood in the light rain.
You said it was light raining and your keys are jangling near your nut sack and the power ports - be careful will ya or you'll be the disaster relief .....
Power lines usually operate at 7200 volts or higher. This operates at a maximum of 425 volts. I don’t think it’s going to do any arcing at such voltages, but it could still kill him if he stuck something where it doesn’t belong, like those keys or his fingers... I agree, he seems to have just enough knowledge about electricity to get himself killed.
The item you have is a 400Hz generator. It was designed to be a ground power unit for aircraft systems that use 400Hz. That doesn't seem to mean anything to you! ....Believe me, IT SHOULD! Just because your AC voltages measure to your liking, doesn't mean your 60Hz appliances (in your dads home) will agree. In fact; you will almost certainly damage ALL of them. You are probably looking at replacing the alternator half of the unit with one that is designed to produce 50/60Hz.
We have this model the motor runs but does not generate electricity. Not sure if it's the regulator or what? We can not find anyone who works on them here in western Colorado. Any advice?
It would make a great back up generator for your neighborhood when power goes out
It's been a few years since you made this video. I hope that before you ran that old (tractor) engine again that you drained all the old fuel, changed the fuel filters, drained the oil, and changed the oil filters, and refilled with fresh fuel and oil. Diesel's are peculiar about having good and clean fuel.
For sure it looks like a 400 Hz model. Aircraft use 400 Hz AC power and it says US Air Force. If that's the case I hope that Russ can convert it to 60 Hz. That thing is worth a fortune.
Russ: My advice is to keep it for your family. Stock diesel and filters and oil. When a disaster strikes, just offer your services with the teams that set up generators - the best of both worlds. You have an *awesome* find, a military generator tank.
even if it works, military generators are difficult to use. In Alabama you will have to pay Southern Company a demand fee! yes i said PAY. the PSC passed a tax - fee for standby power use such as solar panel. Am sure it applies to large generators too.
Yes this is the 60hz version! ;) ~Russ
He probably already sold it for dope, you know he's a smack head!
Get yourself a arc flash!
4Xprops !!!!
Look ma, no PPE! I’ll just poke around with my $10 volt meter.
Tow one of these near big cities and plug in Tesla cars that run out of juice and are stuck. Bring then to 80 percent charge for 50 bucks a pop. 60kw should be same or close to L3 super charger.
But can it run Crysis?
He should plug a vgan into the 120v output
Russ, convert that monster to run on water;-)) Good video.
You should be able to find a 4 wire cable and junction box for pretty cheap somewhere.
I wander what it might have sounded like under load. This looks like something the government might have payed $5000.00 for . Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. This would work great at my bug out.
Really simple and neatly done machine.
Schematics on the side and operations manual. what else do you need?
I'd love to own one.. not quite sure why i would need it but... i want it.
you look like Screech
Ya that thing is whisper quit !!! No wonder it takes ten of our military personnel to pertect it !!! Nobody could ever hear that thing in the middle of nowhere!!!
The exhaust threads are good for active military zones where we dug trenches and extended a second muffler and pipe below ground to make it quieter. No glow plugs...plus, check oil every 8 hours operation...they drink a lot of it! Mine has 140 hours and i change oil every 8 hours so it lasts forever
I'm real glad I was here to watch her start up. What's her name? Why not Have a contest and the winner gets to name her? I'll go with "Tessa", after my grand-daughter who's into this stuff and she's only just turned 5 yrs. old.
The run time hour is true i think the us army is overfilled ihave seen in german tv a guy buy all from army in germany trucks cars medical equippment most is new or with less running time or mile's on car's and trucks thanks to the us taxpayers😊
5:27 That outlet is a Bendix 52-12 200 amp 3-phase with 4/0 gauge conductors. Socket A,B,C are the hot phases, N is neutral and G1,G2,G3,G4 are the grounds. www.amphenol-aerospace.com/pdf/12-052.pdf
This is something to think about but I do know the Proper procedure for connecting generators to a house hold and isolating the grid, thanks good thought, I have herd of theses things Happening. Safty first ! ~Russ
This guy probably has never heard of the NEC, nor read any manuals on becoming a licensed electrician.
Really? Taking measurements of high voltage AC with aligator clips, and no gloves? Dude. And that panel is supposed to be ON when it's running, I can't believe you said that you thought it should be OFF for running. It's there for your safety.
Anyway, prior Air Force here, Power Pro, used to work on these all the time, nice lilttle nostalgia trip.
Ex Army Tech Specialist we had a few of these had to maintenance them all the time. My first thought when he took that panel off then said he was going to leave it off was oh shit!!!
This thing can power up the entire trailer park not just his
enjoyed that nice one russ ive seen a lot of negativity in the coments but i pay them no mind altho i did wince when you were prodding the multimeter in the high voltage section stay safe buddy do the research and keep up the good work.
Put in sum batteries, push all dem buttons, flick all dem switches, tes all dem lights, wahtch all dem meters twitch, make it sum noise! Dat is awesum. Yes sah! Weez going tah a disastah area tuh gives dems po peoples sum powah!
Post another video when you know what you are doing! If I saw this fool coming, I would disconnect my house from his power source!
You need help...go get some!
john ratcliff I am better qualified than you may believe! When you have installed at least 150 for the military like I have, come back & talk to me. Otherwise, I suggest you get the help you speak of!
Anyone else here see two of these dance when they aren't phased right 😂
...oh...wait!...i think...i think there was a wasp's nest in the fuel filler tube!...
It’s alive dr. Frankenstein!!!!
If you still have this gen set, see if you can find an ASK (acoustical suppression kit) for it. They're like a foam core encasement that bolts right onto the set's frame. I must've installed forty or more back when I was a Generator Mechanic in the Army.
You're gonna need to find an alternative to some of the K relays behind the control panel, and someone to rebuild the alternator if you can't find some retrofit.
The missing tag was likely to just there to show that the generator is at the 10/20 level of maintenance standards, i.e. just as it came from the manufacturer. 10 level is the Operator's level of maintenance, and 20 level is the Mechanic's level...basic routine maintenance of the engine and minor electrical components. That is required before any Unit can turn the equipment in.
How is it running these days?
Awesome machine! You plan on putting the leaf springs on with the axles?
not the sharpest tool in the shed a few pliers and hammers short of a tool drawer lmfao!!!
I sure hope you poured something in the diesel to clear up the algae in it... And maybe dilute with some fresh diesel.
Also, always have something ready to snuff the intake with in case it runs away on you...that fiber board cover would have done the trick if it fit up in there.
Sweet machine you got there...makes my 410A welding machine look small.
What a beast. Better be careful!
Some things you might find helpful with this unit.
AIR FORCE TO 38G1-96-2
AIR FORCE TO 38G1-96-4
I don't always start generators after they have been sitting for three years, but when I do, I wear a fedora.
Frequency knob is directly linked to the governer rpm set point. Usually the rpm has to be on 1800 for 60 hz output. 1800 / 60 = 30 inversion steps per rotation inside of the generator... kind of...
Gasoline engines that torques at higher rpm use different generators with different windings. These numbers might be slightly different for your genset. But for sure, frequency knob shall change the rpm of the engine.
I bet your neighbors love you🥺
You can put a muffler on it . I think it would be a lot quieter but cool build a flat bed don't mount axles to the skid plate you won't get it plated that way.